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Title: This college basketball scandal should make us thankful we have Mike Anderson
Post by: forrest city joe on September 27, 2017, 02:36:44 pm
this college basketball scandal is just sickening to watch. want to know why Arkansas has not been getting some of these top recruits.now you see why. so all this stuff about Mike not being able to recruit was garbage.Miss.State is in big trouble. so is Auburn. and we all know what Cal is doing at KY.i am glad that college basketball has been busted.i think in the long run it will help schools like Arkansas.i hope they bust Cal and KY next.
Title: Re: This college basketball scandal should make us thankful we have Mike Anderson
Post by: BannerMountainMan on September 27, 2017, 02:43:50 pm
Now what if we would have fired Mike and gotten a coach and we might be in this scandal, thank goodness for such a great coach!
Title: Re: This college basketball scandal should make us thankful we have Mike Anderson
Post by: rhog1 on September 27, 2017, 02:44:14 pm
this college basketball scandal is just sickening to watch. want to know why Arkansas has not been getting some of these top recruits.now you see why. so all this stuff about Mike not being able to recruit was garbage.Miss.State is in big trouble. so is Auburn. and we all know what Cal is doing at KY.i am glad that college basketball has been busted.i think in the long run it will help schools like Arkansas.i hope they bust Cal and KY next.
You know Joe I got down on Mike Anderson last year and thought it was time for a change. Today I am thankful we have a coach who is doing it the right way. I am glad we have Mike Anderson running our program.
Title: Re: This college basketball scandal should make us thankful we have Mike Anderson
Post by: forrest city joe on September 27, 2017, 02:52:16 pm
You know Joe I got down on Mike Anderson last year and thought it was time for a change. Today I am thankful we have a coach who is doing it the right way. I am glad we have Mike Anderson running our program.
I get it man,we all want to see the Hogs win big like we over 20 years ago.but to do that you have to have the players.and to get those players for the most part you have to be dirty.Nolan saw this coming over 20 years ago.the AAU corruption. the handlers. and the agents. it killed programs like Arkansas.
Title: Re: This college basketball scandal should make us thankful we have Mike Anderson
Post by: Inhogswetrust on September 27, 2017, 02:53:38 pm
I get it man,we all want to see the Hogs win big like we over 20 years ago.but to do that you have to have the players.and to get those players for the most part you have to be dirty.Nolan saw this coming over 20 years ago.the AAU corruption. the handlers. and the agents. it killed programs like Arkansas.

Well said. IIRC a former NC winning coach at Maryland Gary Williams quit over all the stuff going on like this. He hated the AAU and what it was doing to recruiting and such.
Title: Re: This college basketball scandal should make us thankful we have Mike Anderson
Post by: tusked on September 27, 2017, 02:54:50 pm

I think MA is basically clean, but don't throw stones just yet.  All is takes is one little slip up from 3 years ago to mushroom into an incident.

Everything is going to be scrutinized now and I don't want picking up a tab at the catfish house to turn into a scandal.

I'm hoping everything turns out ok.  Nike is going to get hauled in next and anything can happen.
Title: Re: This college basketball scandal should make us thankful we have Mike Anderson
Post by: ShadowHawg on September 27, 2017, 02:55:01 pm
I get it man,we all want to see the Hogs win big like we over 20 years ago.but to do that you have to have the players.and to get those players for the most part you have to be dirty.Nolan saw this coming over 20 years ago.the AAU corruption. the handlers. and the agents. it killed programs like Arkansas.

How involved was a guy like Coach Crawford in stuff like this? I know that he wasn't a bag man but I bet he scouted for and introduced players to the "pipeline".
Title: Re: This college basketball scandal should make us thankful we have Mike Anderson
Post by: Atlhogfan1 on September 27, 2017, 02:57:17 pm
How involved was a guy like Coach Crawford in stuff like this? I know that he wasn't a bag man but I bet he scouted for and introduced players to the "pipeline".

You are obviously hoping. 
Title: Re: This college basketball scandal should make us thankful we have Mike Anderson
Post by: rhog1 on September 27, 2017, 03:01:01 pm
I get it man,we all want to see the Hogs win big like we over 20 years ago.but to do that you have to have the players.and to get those players for the most part you have to be dirty.Nolan saw this coming over 20 years ago.the AAU corruption. the handlers. and the agents. it killed programs like Arkansas.
I really wonder how much the one and done rule/shoe companies getting involved had to do with the drop in Nolan's recruiting. You know he wouldn't have been willing to go down that rout recruiting.
Title: Re: This college basketball scandal should make us thankful we have Mike Anderson
Post by: forrest city joe on September 27, 2017, 03:02:16 pm
I think MA is basically clean, but don't throw stones just yet.  All is takes is one little slip up from 3 years ago to mushroom into an incident.

Everything is going to be scrutinized now and I don't want picking up a tab at the catfish house to turn into a scandal.

I'm hoping everything turns out ok.  Nike is going to get hauled in next and anything can happen.
Let me put it to you this way. if Mike Anderson has been cheating.he has done a bad job of it.we have gotten no where near the talent of a KY.and Auburn and AL and for god sake. Miss.State has been out recruiting us in basketball. i am not worried one bit about Mike being a cheater. so bring it on.
Title: Re: This college basketball scandal should make us thankful we have Mike Anderson
Post by: NavarreHog on September 27, 2017, 03:29:10 pm
this college basketball scandal is just sickening to watch. want to know why Arkansas has not been getting some of these top recruits.now you see why. so all this stuff about Mike not being able to recruit was garbage.Miss.State is in big trouble. so is Auburn. and we all know what Cal is doing at KY.i am glad that college basketball has been busted.i think in the long run it will help schools like Arkansas.i hope they bust Cal and KY next.

Let's hope this does get to UK because I'm sure they are involved. I bet Miss St is pooping kittens right now.
Title: Re: This college basketball scandal should make us thankful we have Mike Anderson
Post by: Kevin on September 27, 2017, 03:30:50 pm
don't be taking victory laps. this thing is just beginning. in the world of college basketball, most people have skeletons in their closet.
Title: Re: This college basketball scandal should make us thankful we have Mike Anderson
Post by: tncbg on September 27, 2017, 03:40:04 pm
The FBI can spend the next ten years investigating and still have a long way to go. College basketball has been a cesspool for a long time. There is a massive underworld taking advantage of kids and their families. Handlers take money to steer kids one way or the other, and the kid's family may know nothing about it. When someone waves a bag of 50k or 100k in your face just to arrange a visit, it's probably tough to turn down. When mom is working three jobs trying to make ends meet, the kid naturally wants to help. Sure, the scholarship and all that goes with it is great, but it won't pay mom's rent or utility bills. We should really try to imagine ourselves in such a situation before we render judgment. The money will not stop, they will just find a different method of delivery. Perhaps Bitcoin will be the new currency for the cheaters. 
Title: Re: This college basketball scandal should make us thankful we have Mike Anderson
Post by: Wisco Pig on September 27, 2017, 03:50:57 pm
I'm with Tusked and Kevin, just watching and waiting to see how things shake out -- it's all most of us can ever do as fans anyway.

Joe makes a good point, though.   If Anderson's a cheat, he stinks at it.
Title: Re: This college basketball scandal should make us thankful we have Mike Anderson
Post by: forrest city joe on September 27, 2017, 04:25:15 pm
Show me anything in Mike's past that says he is a cheater.until someone shows me proof. i am going to say he is clean.and again let me say this. if he is cheating, he is doing one hell of a bad job of it.Mike Anderson is a good man. and i think he is clean.not worried about the FBI.it's guys like Cal and Roy Williams,who should be worried.they are dirty.
Title: Re: This college basketball scandal should make us thankful we have Mike Anderson
Post by: FineAsSwine on September 27, 2017, 04:28:29 pm
I'm with Tusked and Kevin, just watching and waiting to see how things shake out -- it's all most of us can ever do as fans anyway.

Joe makes a good point, though.   If Anderson's a cheat, he stinks at it.

Doobie Jenkins
Brachen Hazen
Gabe O.
the little point guard from Louisiana
not being able to fill all scholarships for 2 or 3 seasons
missing on most of their higher ranked targets and having to scramble (willie koussai)

Yeah, CMA is dirty as they come.
Title: Re: This college basketball scandal should make us thankful we have Mike Anderson
Post by: LR_Matt on September 29, 2017, 11:43:55 pm
this college basketball scandal is just sickening to watch. want to know why Arkansas has not been getting some of these top recruits.now you see why. so all this stuff about Mike not being able to recruit was garbage.Miss.State is in big trouble. so is Auburn. and we all know what Cal is doing at KY.i am glad that college basketball has been busted.i think in the long run it will help schools like Arkansas.i hope they bust Cal and KY next.

It was Louisville implicated, not UK.
Title: Re: This college basketball scandal should make us thankful we have Mike Anderson
Post by: ShadowHawg on September 30, 2017, 01:25:20 am
don't be taking victory laps. this thing is just beginning. in the world of college basketball, most people have skeletons in their closet.

You can't even give MA props for being clean.

Pathetic

I thought you were going to skip basketball for baseball anyway?
Title: Re: This college basketball scandal should make us thankful we have Mike Anderson
Post by: Hogs49ers on September 30, 2017, 04:06:50 pm
You can't even give MA props for being clean.

Pathetic

I thought you were going to skip basketball for baseball anyway?

Haha! I do remember when he said that and you calling him on it. 

I agree, it really is pathetic.  I mean yes, obviously anyone in the country could be potentially cheating and could be worried as this investigation rolls on, but I do not know why anyone (whether you like MA or not) would possibly think we should "hold off, wait and see what happens, we could be part of this".  There is absolutely zero recruiting instances that should lead us to believe we have been cheating, quite the opposite actually, we seem to be on the losing end of major recruits where any money could be involved to swaying top recruits.  So for every one thinking we could be part of this, please back it up and let us know the recruits that you think we paid for.
Title: Re: This college basketball scandal should make us thankful we have Mike Anderson
Post by: Kevin on September 30, 2017, 04:18:43 pm
You can't even give MA props for being clean.

Pathetic

I thought you were going to skip basketball for baseball anyway?

not giving props or blasting him.

in this investigation, just one text, or email or phone call, could put anyone in the bulls eye.
Title: Re: This college basketball scandal should make us thankful we have Mike Anderson
Post by: ShadowHawg on September 30, 2017, 04:52:29 pm
not giving props or blasting him.

in this investigation, just one text, or email or phone call, could put anyone in the bulls eye.

You wish.

This is a criminal investigation not a rules violation investigation. You really believe that MA or his staff are taking bribes? Seriously?

If you want to argue the staff could be breaking NCAA rules somewhere I wouldn't buck you at all because there are a lot of rules that have zero to do with criminal behavior.

This is an FBI investigation. The FBI is collecting evidence for criminal prosecution and they aren't simultaneously cross referencing NCAA rules for violations.

Simply put, unless you believe our staff is taking or funneling money there is literally nothing to see here.

Are you saying our coaches strike you as the kind of men you can see taking advantage of young men and their families for personal monetary or professional gain? Because that is what an email, text, or phone call will have to pertain to for your remarks to have merit.

Title: Re: This college basketball scandal should make us thankful we have Mike Anderson
Post by: Kevin on September 30, 2017, 05:08:38 pm
You wish.

This is a criminal investigation not a rules violation investigation. You really believe that MA or his staff are taking bribes? Seriously?

If you want to argue the staff could be breaking NCAA rules somewhere I wouldn't buck you at all because there are a lot of rules that have zero to do with criminal behavior.

This is an FBI investigation. The FBI is collecting evidence for criminal prosecution and they aren't simultaneously cross referencing NCAA rules for violations.

Simply put, unless you believe our staff is taking or funneling money there is literally nothing to see here.

Are you saying our coaches strike you as the kind of men you can see taking advantage of young men and their families for personal monetary or professional gain? Because that is what an email, text, or phone call will have to pertain to for your remarks to have merit.



pitino did not get fired for taking bribes. the ramifications of this investigation is widespread.

first of all, all programs break the rules. have you ever read the manual.  you break rules without knowing it is a rule.

or some programs just break small rules on purpose.

I have always compared it to jaywalking or murder. everyone jaywalks, few commit murder.

I think cma runs as clean of a program that can be run. do I think anything will come arkansas' way in this investigation, no

right now, there is no basketball program, that is out of the woods.
Title: Re: This college basketball scandal should make us thankful we have Mike Anderson
Post by: ShadowHawg on September 30, 2017, 05:29:08 pm
pitino did not get fired for taking bribes. the ramifications of this investigation is widespread.

first of all, all programs break the rules. have you ever read the manual.  you break rules without knowing it is a rule.

or some programs just break small rules on purpose.

I have always compared it to jaywalking or murder. everyone jaywalks, few commit murder.

I think cma runs as clean of a program that can be run. do I think anything will come arkansas' way in this investigation, no

right now, there is no basketball program, that is out of the woods.

Pathetic

You just used equated our staff to a guy who screws his assistants wife on a table in a restaurant, runs a program that gets hookers for recruits, and although didn't take a bribe he did funnel money to a player's family. CRIMINAL ACTIVITY

Arkansas is not in a place of worry exactly because MA runs a clean program. The fact that you can't even let the man get his props on this subject and just be quiet says a lot about just how bitter you are toward the man.

Pathetic
Title: Re: This college basketball scandal should make us thankful we have Mike Anderson
Post by: Dominicanhog on October 01, 2017, 04:54:17 pm
You know Joe I got down on Mike Anderson last year and thought it was time for a change. Today I am thankful we have a coach who is doing it the right way. I am glad we have Mike Anderson running our program.

Good thing your not in charge..but we knew that before this event...
Title: Re: This college basketball scandal should make us thankful we have Mike Anderson
Post by: ShadowHawg on October 01, 2017, 05:47:40 pm
You are obviously hoping.


Hoping for what? I don't expect him to get arrested.

This type of thing has been common knowledge since the early 90's. Getting paid to scout wouldn't be illegal but it would be disappointing.
Title: Re: This college basketball scandal should make us thankful we have Mike Anderson
Post by: 98hogs on October 01, 2017, 06:57:37 pm
this college basketball scandal is just sickening to watch. want to know why Arkansas has not been getting some of these top recruits.now you see why. so all this stuff about Mike not being able to recruit was garbage.Miss.State is in big trouble. so is Auburn. and we all know what Cal is doing at KY.i am glad that college basketball has been busted.i think in the long run it will help schools like Arkansas.i hope they bust Cal and KY next.
Amen !
Title: Re: This college basketball scandal should make us thankful we have Mike Anderson
Post by: Fan701 on October 01, 2017, 07:26:34 pm
this college basketball scandal is just sickening to watch. want to know why Arkansas has not been getting some of these top recruits.now you see why. so all this stuff about Mike not being able to recruit was garbage.Miss.State is in big trouble. so is Auburn. and we all know what Cal is doing at KY.i am glad that college basketball has been busted.i think in the long run it will help schools like Arkansas.i hope they bust Cal and KY next.
There hasn't been a lot of mention on here about Alabama, but it seems very likely that Collin Sexton, a five-star recruit, was paid and will quite likely end up ineligible.  He may be just the tip of the iceberg at Alabama.  It now looks as though Avery Johnson's recruiting may have been too good to be true.