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Title: 4-Star PG Keyshawn Embery Commits!
Post by: The_Iceman on September 16, 2017, 02:46:00 pm
https://twitter.com/morningrushshow/status/909127706163449857

http://247sports.com/Player/Keyshawn-Embery-94623

https://youtu.be/7gxIAKe9nCI

https://youtu.be/luiBxxecjXE
Title: Re: 4-Star PG Keyshawn Embery Commits!
Post by: ThisGuy on September 16, 2017, 02:50:09 pm
http://247sports.com/Player/Keyshawn-Embery-94623

https://youtu.be/7gxIAKe9nCI

https://youtu.be/luiBxxecjXE

Good way to start bouncing back from the Perry Decommit
Title: Re: 4-Star PG Keyshawn Embery Commits!
Post by: Little Lady Back on September 16, 2017, 02:55:44 pm
Great news! Way to go CMA and staff!
Title: Re: 4-Star PG Keyshawn Embery Commits!
Post by: mhuff on September 16, 2017, 03:33:28 pm
Great news! Way to go CMA and staff!
Title: Re: 4-Star PG Keyshawn Embery Commits!
Post by: Letsroll1200 on September 16, 2017, 04:06:02 pm
https://twitter.com/morningrushshow/status/909127706163449857

http://247sports.com/Player/Keyshawn-Embery-94623

https://youtu.be/7gxIAKe9nCI

https://youtu.be/luiBxxecjXE

Bride
Title: Re: 4-Star PG Keyshawn Embery Commits!
Post by: Swinesong1 on September 16, 2017, 04:28:34 pm
Bride
I see what you did there.  Don't mind him.  He's bipolar when it comes to Anderson.
Title: Re: 4-Star PG Keyshawn Embery Commits!
Post by: rzrbackramsfan on September 16, 2017, 05:23:54 pm
Bride

lol nice!
Title: Re: 4-Star PG Keyshawn Embery Commits!
Post by: The_Iceman on September 16, 2017, 06:16:19 pm
Bride

Glad it's the case now. Sure wasn't when we were pulling in the worse recruiting class in the SEC and seeing 4 and 5 star instate kids fleeing from this program.
Title: Re: 4-Star PG Keyshawn Embery Commits!
Post by: Hollywood_HOGan45 on September 16, 2017, 07:13:30 pm
Who in mike anderson's family is he related to?

Obviously can't recruit good players out of state.
Title: Re: 4-Star PG Keyshawn Embery Commits!
Post by: Kevin on September 17, 2017, 08:53:46 am
great for the program
Title: Re: 4-Star PG Keyshawn Embery Commits!
Post by: BannerMountainMan on September 17, 2017, 11:47:04 am
Oh my all we need now is a C for the 2018 class and we are freaking set!!!
Title: Re: 4-Star PG Keyshawn Embery Commits!
Post by: FineAsSwine on September 17, 2017, 12:23:17 pm
Oh my all we need now is a C for the 2018 class and we are freaking set!!!

this class is being salvaged nicely. now we just need to close out with a big man or two and we're done.
Title: Re: 4-Star PG Keyshawn Embery Commits!
Post by: PonderinHog on September 17, 2017, 01:36:52 pm
this class is being salvaged nicely. now we just need to close out with a big man or two and we're done.
Would that be what they call a "tall order?"
Title: Re: 4-Star PG Keyshawn Embery Commits!
Post by: BannerMountainMan on September 17, 2017, 01:55:10 pm
What are gonna do we have 4 stud PGs!! We've been needing one for 5 years and now we have 4😂😂 Harris, Hill, Sills, and Joe which arguably they can play SG also
Title: Re: 4-Star PG Keyshawn Embery Commits!
Post by: The_Iceman on September 17, 2017, 02:04:51 pm
What are gonna do we have 4 stud PGs!! We've been needing one for 5 years and now we have 4😂😂 Harris, Hill, Sills, and Joe which arguably they can play SG also

Harris and Hill are true PGs. Sills and Embery are combo guards. Joe is a straight SG  (think Anthlon Bell).
Title: Re: 4-Star PG Keyshawn Embery Commits!
Post by: hawgmasta on September 17, 2017, 02:56:17 pm
A 6-3 natural point guard. Yes please!
Title: Re: 4-Star PG Keyshawn Embery Commits!
Post by: The_Bionic_Pig on September 17, 2017, 05:54:17 pm
Harris and Hill are true PGs. Sills and Embery are combo guards. Joe is a straight SG  (think Anthlon Bell).

In a normal system your correct but in Mike's system until the ball crosses halfcourt if the SF (Day Day for example) is a capable ball handler he is supposed to immediatly advanced the ball  (to the rim if possible) following a defensive rebound not wait for the PG.

The drawback is watching the less than capable ball handler's on the 3pt line extended that have a very, very limited perimeter game (current Senior PF's ) basically stall offensive possessions.

Title: Re: 4-Star PG Keyshawn Embery Commits!
Post by: Pinto on September 17, 2017, 06:03:17 pm
What are gonna do we have 4 stud PGs!! We've been needing one for 5 years and now we have 4😂😂 Harris, Hill, Sills, and Joe which arguably they can play SG also

That's a good problem to have if they all develop into studs. But more than likely, someone will not meet expectations and hopefully someone will exceed them.
Title: Re: 4-Star PG Keyshawn Embery Commits!
Post by: PORKULATOR on September 17, 2017, 07:37:02 pm
Needed this
Title: Re: 4-Star PG Keyshawn Embery Commits!
Post by: Razorod on September 17, 2017, 07:38:49 pm
I believe he'll be a very good one for us. Could be looking at a 3-4 year starter.
Title: Re: 4-Star PG Keyshawn Embery Commits!
Post by: nwahogfan1 on September 18, 2017, 08:02:25 am
A 6-3 natural point guard. Yes please!


I read another summer report on him and he is listed as 6'1.  I wonder now how tall he really is.  But he is very active and strong going to the rim.  Not afraid of contact.  I like him and if he is only 6'1, I hope he plays taller.
Title: Re: 4-Star PG Keyshawn Embery Commits!
Post by: nwahogfan1 on September 18, 2017, 08:07:18 am
Oh my all we need now is a C for the 2018 class and we are freaking set!!!


I totally agree.  We need either a true 5 or a long athletic 6'8+ kid who is a 4/5 to back up or play beside Gafford.  If not we will have to play a 3/4 combo player who is 6'6 at the 5 spot.  That will be ok against some teams but against others it will kill us.  We need to get taller to reach the sweet 16 or beyond. 
Title: Re: 4-Star PG Keyshawn Embery Commits!
Post by: nwahogfan1 on September 18, 2017, 08:23:50 am
Harris and Hill are true PGs. Sills and Embery are combo guards. Joe is a straight SG  (think Anthlon Bell).

I agree ICEMAN with your assessment of these players.  Guards can be blessed with physical skills but Fans forget that true PGs run the team and distributes the ball to scorers first and get their own points second.  That takes great vision, leadership  and ball handling skills.  When you really see PGs standing out is in the last 10 seconds of the shot clock and also in the last few minutes of the game to take care of the ball, run the team, setting up scorers with his skills and making those game winning decisions with the ball.   

Joe and other shooters and guys who love to post up down low will love PGs. 

Title: Re: 4-Star PG Keyshawn Embery Commits!
Post by: rzrbackramsfan on September 18, 2017, 08:42:40 am
I agree ICEMAN with your assessment of these players.  Guards can be blessed with physical skills but Fans forget that true PGs run the team and distributes the ball to scorers first and get their own points second.  That takes great vision, leadership  and ball handling skills.  When you really see PGs standing out is in the last 10 seconds of the shot clock and also in the last few minutes of the game to take care of the ball, run the team, setting up scorers with his skills and making those game winning decisions with the ball.   

Joe and other shooters and guys who love to post up down low will love PGs.

Do you see any other needs for this class other than speedy pg's?
Title: Re: 4-Star PG Keyshawn Embery Commits!
Post by: FineAsSwine on September 18, 2017, 08:59:03 am
Was skeptical about getting Embery but the coaching staff did a great job selling the program and reeled in a great prospect.
Title: Re: 4-Star PG Keyshawn Embery Commits!
Post by: Rudy Baylor on September 19, 2017, 08:02:09 pm
good get!
Title: Re: 4-Star PG Keyshawn Embery Commits!
Post by: Breems on September 20, 2017, 11:42:26 am
Great news. He looks really good on film.

I was wondering when we were going to see the guard play come together under Coach A. We're getting there now.
Title: Re: 4-Star PG Keyshawn Embery Commits!
Post by: FineAsSwine on September 20, 2017, 12:05:51 pm
Great news. He looks really good on film.

I was wondering when we were going to see the guard play come together under Coach A. We're getting there now.

Point guards, shooting guards, combo guards, we got guards! Now, about those bigs.... ;D
Title: Re: 4-Star PG Keyshawn Embery Commits!
Post by: BannerMountainMan on September 20, 2017, 12:16:02 pm
Point guards, shooting guards, combo guards, we got guards! Now, about those bigs.... ;D
we got bigs ole boy, we got Gafford Thompson, Henderson, Gabe, we just need 1 true Center, but that's hard to come by in Arkansas.
Title: Re: 4-Star PG Keyshawn Embery Commits!
Post by: FineAsSwine on September 20, 2017, 12:23:25 pm
we got bigs ole boy, we got Gafford Thompson, Henderson, Gabe, we just need 1 true Center, but that's hard to come by in Arkansas.

I was actually looking ahead to 2018 but it would be nice if Henderson bulked up and got stronger and if Gabe can become a viable option. That would really help to allay my concerns.
Title: Re: 4-Star PG Keyshawn Embery Commits!
Post by: rusvegashog on September 20, 2017, 05:58:39 pm
Personally I love it when we're able to snag a kid out of Oklahoma, in all sports. And we've had some good ones(Mayberry, Felix, Rotnei, Hatcher and so forth). Stoked about Embery. Hope he has a healthy and product senior year and shows up next year ready to ball.
Title: Re: 4-Star PG Keyshawn Embery Commits!
Post by: Kevin McPherson on September 20, 2017, 10:04:21 pm
we got bigs ole boy, we got Gafford Thompson, Henderson, Gabe, we just need 1 true Center, but that's hard to come by in Arkansas.

True centers are basically extinct, except Gafford is as true a 5 as you'll find. Henderson is a PF who needs to add weight, but he'll be able to coexist with another PF or combo-4 on the floor when Gafford goes out of the game. I also believe Gabe has the ability to help defend down low in spurts. At 6-6, Adrio Bailey can play that combo-4 spot, but he's too undersized to be the primary big for any stretch of time. At minimum, Arkansas needs to add another PF in 2018 -- Reggie Chaney at 6-8 and 220-plus-pounds would work nicely.
Title: Re: 4-Star PG Keyshawn Embery Commits!
Post by: MemphisBossHog on October 03, 2017, 03:13:35 pm
https://twitter.com/morningrushshow/status/909127706163449857

http://247sports.com/Player/Keyshawn-Embery-94623

https://youtu.be/7gxIAKe9nCI

https://youtu.be/luiBxxecjXE

Iceman, quick question--Embery is a "commitment" but he hasn't signed.  What year is he coming?  The reason I ask is if, say, Embery has a great season in HS and actually gets a 5th star, do we need to worry about Calipari telling World Wide Wes, " I want that Embery kid, so go get him."  The Monk and Perry situations have really soured me on these commitments that Mike works so hard for and gets that are really early and the kid gets people in his ear like Perry did and the next thing you know, Calipari has decided he wants him and well we all know what happens when he wants a player that we want.

** just saw he is in the 2018 class, so now we have to sweat it out.  LOL.   I almost hope he doesn't get his 5th star so the Kentuckys of the world will leave him alone.
Title: Re: 4-Star PG Keyshawn Embery Commits!
Post by: The_Iceman on October 03, 2017, 03:26:16 pm
Iceman, quick question--Embery is a "commitment" but he hasn't signed.  What year is he coming?  The reason I ask is if, say, Embery has a great season in HS and actually gets a 5th star, do we need to worry about Calipari telling World Wide Wes, " I want that Embery kid, so go get him."  The Monk and Perry situations have really soured me on these commitments that Mike works so hard for and gets that are really early and the kid gets people in his ear like Perry did and the next thing you know, Calipari has decided he wants him and well we all know what happens when he wants a player that we want.

** just saw he is in the 2018 class, so now we have to sweat it out.  LOL.   I almost hope he doesn't get his 5th star so the Kentuckys of the world will leave him alone.

He plans to sign in the early period, which will help lock him in.
Title: Re: 4-Star PG Keyshawn Embery Commits!
Post by: MakingPlays on October 03, 2017, 03:26:24 pm
Iceman, quick question--Embery is a "commitment" but he hasn't signed.  What year is he coming?  The reason I ask is if, say, Embery has a great season in HS and actually gets a 5th star, do we need to worry about Calipari telling World Wide Wes, " I want that Embery kid, so go get him."  The Monk and Perry situations have really soured me on these commitments that Mike works so hard for and gets that are really early and the kid gets people in his ear like Perry did and the next thing you know, Calipari has decided he wants him and well we all know what happens when he wants a player that we want.

** just saw he is in the 2018 class, so now we have to sweat it out.  LOL.   I almost hope he doesn't get his 5th star so the Kentuckys of the world will leave him alone.

Embery is signing in the early period in November.  By the time he signs his high school season would have just started.  Also, the ranking services aren't going to update any of the rankings until the Spring and even then there's very little movement going on, since most do their evaluating during the AAU circuits. 

Also, Malik Monk was never committed to Arkansas, the only committ CMA has ever had that has flipped is Perry and as we are seeing there were some outside things influencing that.