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Started by Ben, January 24, 2017, 12:57:23 pm

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Ben

What would your all-hog team look like offensively? Mine is
QB - Matt Jones
RB - Darren McFadden
RB - Felix Jones
FB - Peyton Hillis
WR - Lance Alworth
WR - Marcus Monk
WR - Joe Adams
TE - Hunter Henry
Quote from: BearsBisonsBoars on January 18, 2016, 11:06:54 pm. The four team playoff is still opinion. Or do you really think MSU was really the fourth best team in CFB?
You miss the boat.  A four team playoff is a championship.  A championship produces... a champion. You seem to be looking for the "best" team.  The "best" doesn't exist. Best does not equal champion.  Best is a myth.
Opinion polls produce... opinions.

redleg

If it ain't broke, fix it till it is.

 

Ben

Quote from: redleg on January 24, 2017, 01:00:29 pm
Is this all-time Hogs, or just 21st Century?
Who is Lance Alworth?
Lol but no this just my personal all time lol.
Quote from: BearsBisonsBoars on January 18, 2016, 11:06:54 pm. The four team playoff is still opinion. Or do you really think MSU was really the fourth best team in CFB?
You miss the boat.  A four team playoff is a championship.  A championship produces... a champion. You seem to be looking for the "best" team.  The "best" doesn't exist. Best does not equal champion.  Best is a myth.
Opinion polls produce... opinions.

redleg

Option I Offense:
QB - Matt Jones
FB - Barry Foster
HB - Darren McFadden
TE - Hunter Henry
TE - Billy Winston
WR - Derek Russell
LT - Shawn Andrews
LG - Freddie Childress
C - Jonathon Luigs
RG - Brandon Burlsworth
RT - Jim Mabry

4-3 Defense:
DE - Billy Ray Smith Jr.
DT - Henry Ford
DT - Dan Hampton
DE - Wayne Martin
OLB - Ronnie Caveness
MLB - Jermaine Petty
OLB - Quinten Caver
CB - Ahmad Carroll
CB - Orlando Watters
S - Steve Atwater
S - Ken Hamlin

Special Teams:
PK - Steve Little
P - Steve Cox
PR - Joe Adams
KR - Bobby Joe Edmonds
I went overboard with it all.....but this was fun!
:razorback:

If it ain't broke, fix it till it is.

al_pigcino

All of the best athletes would be this generation.  No athlete from the 60's would even compete at the level now.  All time team should really consist of everything from late 80's to now. 

Sho Nuff

Quote from: al_pigcino on January 24, 2017, 01:45:29 pm
All of the best athletes would be this generation.  No athlete from the 60's would even compete at the level now.  All time team should really consist of everything from late 80's to now.
Dear Lord...

Do you really believe that Jim Brown would not be a beast if he were at his prime today?

Youngsta71701

Quote from: Sho Nuff on January 24, 2017, 01:55:17 pm
Dear Lord...

Do you really believe that Jim Brown would not be a beast if he were at his prime today?
Lol...good point. Jim Brown would have been a beast in any era.
"The more things change the more they stay the same"

jusgtohogs

Quote from: Sho Nuff on January 24, 2017, 01:55:17 pm
Dear Lord...

Do you really believe that Jim Brown would not be a beast if he were at his prime today?

Agreed!  The concept that athletes from the 60's couldn't compete with athletes today is ridiculous.  Give 'em the same training, etc. and they'd more than hold their own.

Razorbackers

I'm putting Matt Jones at receiver, where he probably should have been all along. haha

Jackrabbit Hog

Quote from: al_pigcino on January 24, 2017, 01:45:29 pm
All of the best athletes would be this generation.  No athlete from the 60's would even compete at the level now.  All time team should really consist of everything from late 80's to now.

Totally disagree with you.  Players should be measured against those they played against.  Who's to say whether the ones from the '60s and '70s wouldn't have been equal to or better than the athletes of today if they'd had the same strength, conditioning, specialized coaching, nutrition, etc.? 

Any All-Hog team would have to include Cliff Powell, Loyd Phillips, Gary Anderson (all-purpose or KR) and Steve Korte.
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BroyledNutts

Quote from: Ben on January 24, 2017, 12:57:23 pm
What would your all-hog team look like offensively? Mine is
QB - Matt Jones
RB - Darren McFadden
RB - Felix Jones
FB - Peyton Hillis
WR - Lance Alworth
WR - Marcus Monk
WR - Joe Adams
TE - Hunter Henry

I believe James Shibest deserves consideration on the WR list - while undersized by modern standards, there wasn't a pass placed in his general area he could not catch. He would sell out his body to make a catch.

justmakeit2thebcs

Quote from: Ben on January 24, 2017, 12:57:23 pm
What would your all-hog team look like offensively? Mine is
QB - Matt Jones
RB - Darren McFadden
RB - Felix Jones
FB - Peyton Hillis
WR - Lance Alworth
WR - Marcus Monk
WR - Joe Adams
TE - Hunter Henry
QB - Ryan Mallet
RB - McFadden
RB - Alex Collins
RB - Barry Foster
TE - Hunter Henry
WR - Alworth
WR - Chuck Dicus
WR - Anthony Lucas

Youngsta71701

January 24, 2017, 02:25:58 pm #12 Last Edit: January 27, 2017, 08:15:21 pm by Youngsta71701
I-Form Offense:
QB - Ryan Mallett
HB - Darren McFadden
FB - Peyton Hillis
TE - Hunter Henry
WR- Coby Hamilton
WR - Matt Jones
LT - Jason Peters
LG - Frank Ragnow
C - Jonathan Luigs
RG - Brandon Burlsworth
RT - Shawn Andrews

4-3 Defense:
DE - Trey Flowers
DT - DD Jones
DT - Darius Philon
DE - Wayne Martin
OLB - Tony Bua
MLB - Jermaine Petty
OLB - Quinten Caver
CB - Ahmad Carroll
CB - David Barrett
S - Steve Atwater
S - Ken Hamlin

Special Teams:
PK - Steve Little
P - Steve Cox
PR - Joe Adams
KR - Lance Alworth

I did my list based on the players that I've actually seen play, either in person or on TV.
"The more things change the more they stay the same"

 

bennyl08

Quote from: Jackrabbit Hog on January 24, 2017, 02:12:51 pm
Totally disagree with you.  Players should be measured against those they played against.  Who's to say whether the ones from the '60s and '70s wouldn't have been equal to or better than the athletes of today if they'd had the same strength, conditioning, specialized coaching, nutrition, etc.? 

Any All-Hog team would have to include Cliff Powell, Loyd Phillips, Gary Anderson (all-purpose or KR) and Steve Korte.

It really just doesn't make much sense to compare the two. On the one hand, they didn't have the training and nutrition that players today have and if you take one of the older players and raise them in a modern environment, they could be a lot different.

However, on the flip side, how many times do you hear about this super productive HS player, but he just doesn't have the size or strength to play at the collegiate level? Similarly for college to Pro. Today's college teams would worst case be a contender for a super bowl in the NFL of 40 years ago, arguably even 30 years ago. Players today who get drafted but don't make the teams would have been all-pro back in the day. So, just like there's no guarantee that the players from then wouldn't be bigger and faster if you allow them to grow up in today's training, there's no guarantee that they had the natural athleticism to produce in today's game either.
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The_Iceman

I'm sorry to Matt Jones, but Ryan Mallett has to be the starting QB. His ability to stretch a field vertically, plus McFadden in the backfield, and it doesn't matter what you do anywhere else. That defense is toast. They'll have to spread out so much to cover the field, dmac would run for days. Heck, he did it against a stacked box.

hvsupastar

QB: Tavaris Jackson
Rb: Dedrick Poole
FB: Mitch Petrus
WR: LaQuinta Funderburke
WR: Matt Jones
TE:  Jason Peters
LT:  Denver Kirkland, SR.
LG:  Hyjate Froholdt
C:  Brett Goode
RG:  Also Mitch Petrus
RT: Anthony Oden
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Jackrabbit Hog

Quote from: hvsupastar on January 24, 2017, 03:00:14 pm
QB: Tavaris Jackson
Rb: Dedrick Poole
FB: Mitch Petrus
WR: LaQuinta Funderburke
WR: Matt Jones
TE:  Jason Peters
LT:  Denver Kirkland, SR.
LG:  Hyjate Froholdt
C:  Brett Goode
RG:  Also Mitch Petrus
RT: Anthony Oden

Quite an eclectic group you've got there, 'star my friend..
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code red


QB - Joe Ferguson
RB - Darren McFadden
RB - Gary Anderson
FB - Peyton Hillis
WR - Jarous Wright
WR - Marcus Monk
WR - Joe Adams
TE - Hunter Henry
"If what you did yesterday seems big, you haven't done anything today."  Dr. Lou

OutlawHawg

Quote from: Ben on January 24, 2017, 12:57:23 pm
What would your all-hog team look like offensively? Mine is
QB - Matt Jones
RB - Darren McFadden
RB - Felix Jones
FB - Peyton Hillis
WR - Lance Alworth
WR - Marcus Monk
WR - Joe Adams
TE - Hunter Henry

QB - Mallett
RB - McFadden
RB - Knile Davis
FR - Hillis
WR - Jarius Wright
WR - Lance Alworth
TE - Henry

Bacons Rebellion

Quote from: Jackrabbit Hog on January 24, 2017, 02:12:51 pm
Totally disagree with you.  Players should be measured against those they played against.  Who's to say whether the ones from the '60s and '70s wouldn't have been equal to or better than the athletes of today if they'd had the same strength, conditioning, specialized coaching, nutrition, etc.? 

Any All-Hog team would have to include Cliff Powell, Loyd Phillips, Gary Anderson (all-purpose or KR) and Steve Korte.

That is, indeed, the only way to do it. Athletes have to judged against their competition.

Bacons Rebellion

QB - Ryan Mallett
RB - Darren McFadden
FB - Barry Foster
WR - Jim Benton
WR - Jarius Wright
TE - Hunter Henry

Soooie21

Quote from: redleg on January 24, 2017, 01:17:41 pm
Option I Offense:
QB - Matt Jones
FB - Barry Foster
HB - Darren McFadden
TE - Hunter Henry
TE - Billy Winston
WR - Derek Russell
LT - Shawn Andrews
LG - Freddie Childress
C - Jonathon Luigs
RG - Brandon Burlsworth
RT - Jim Mabry

4-3 Defense:
DE - Billy Ray Smith Jr.
DT - Henry Ford
DT - Dan Hampton
DE - Wayne Martin
OLB - Ronnie Caveness
MLB - Jermaine Petty
OLB - Quinten Caver
CB - Ahmad Carroll
CB - Orlando Watters
S - Steve Atwater
S - Ken Hamlin

Special Teams:
PK - Steve Little
P - Steve Cox
PR - Joe Adams
KR - Bobby Joe Edmonds
I went overboard with it all.....but this was fun!
:razorback:

have to have Gary Anderson on their somewhere...

PorkRinds


 

Razorbackers


hoggusamoungus

Quote from: redleg on January 24, 2017, 01:17:41 pm
Option I Offense:
QB - Matt Jones
FB - Barry Foster
HB - Darren McFadden
TE - Hunter Henry
TE - Billy Winston
WR - Derek Russell
LT - Shawn Andrews
LG - Freddie Childress
C - Jonathon Luigs
RG - Brandon Burlsworth
RT - Jim Mabry

4-3 Defense:
DE - Billy Ray Smith Jr.
DT - Henry Ford
DT - Dan Hampton
DE - Wayne Martin
OLB - Ronnie Caveness
MLB - Jermaine Petty
OLB - Quinten Caver
CB - Ahmad Carroll
CB - Orlando Watters
S - Steve Atwater
S - Ken Hamlin

Special Teams:
PK - Steve Little
P - Steve Cox
PR - Joe Adams
KR - Bobby Joe Edmonds
I went overboard with it all.....but this was fun!
:razorback:

No to Derek Russell.  On the Hogs' first offensive play in the '87 Texas game, he dropped a perfect pass from Greg Thomas that would have been a TD.  We all know how that game ultimately turned out.

Kevin

I don't remember a Marcus monk play for the hogs. 
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PorkRinds

Quote from: Kevin on January 24, 2017, 04:38:06 pm
I don't remember a Marcus monk play for the hogs.

Last I heard of that name it was some guy running a "basketball showcases" scam.

trphog

QB - Joe Ferguson
RB - Darren McFadden
RB - Felix Jones
FB - Peyton Hillis
WR - Lance Alworth
WR - Anthony Lucas
WR - Joe Adams
TE - Hunter Henry

greenEGnHAWGS

Quote from: hvsupastar on January 24, 2017, 03:00:14 pm
QB: Tavaris Jackson
Rb: Dedrick Poole
FB: Mitch Petrus
WR: LaQuinta Funderburke
WR: Matt Jones
TE:  Jason Peters
LT:  Denver Kirkland, SR.
LG:  Hyjate Froholdt
C:  Brett Goode
RG:  Also Mitch Petrus
RT: Anthony Oden

You forgot Vin Ascolese...
Did they get you to trade a walk on part in the war, for a lead role in a cage...?

greenEGnHAWGS

QB - Ryan Mallett
RB1 - Darren McFadden
RB2 - Alex Collins
FB - Peyton Hillis
TE - Hunter Henry
WR1 - Coby Hamilton
WR2 - Joe Adams
WR3 - Jarious Wright
LT - Jason Peters
LG - Frank Ragnow
C - Jonathan Luigs
RG - Brandon Burlsworth
RT - Shawn Andrews
Did they get you to trade a walk on part in the war, for a lead role in a cage...?

Jackrabbit Hog

Quote from: hoggusamoungus on January 24, 2017, 04:34:54 pm
No to Derek Russell.  On the Hogs' first offensive play in the '87 Texas game, he dropped a perfect pass from Greg Thomas that would have been a TD.  We all know how that game ultimately turned out.

So did Ken Hatfield.  A few fans reminded him on his way out that day, just so he wouldn't forget.
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secfan30

Quote from: redleg on January 24, 2017, 01:17:41 pm
Option I Offense:
QB - Matt Jones
FB - Barry Foster
HB - Darren McFadden
TE - Hunter Henry
TE - Billy Winston
WR - Derek Russell
LT - Shawn Andrews
LG - Freddie Childress
C - Jonathon Luigs
RG - Brandon Burlsworth
RT - Jim Mabry

4-3 Defense:
DE - Billy Ray Smith Jr.
DT - Henry Ford
DT - Dan Hampton
DE - Wayne Martin
OLB - Ronnie Caveness
MLB - Jermaine Petty
OLB - Quinten Caver
CB - Ahmad Carroll
CB - Orlando Watters
S - Steve Atwater
S - Ken Hamlin

Special Teams:
PK - Steve Little
P - Steve Cox
PR - Joe Adams
KR - Bobby Joe Edmonds
I went overboard with it all.....but this was fun!
:razorback:

Nice list, shame there is not a spot for Richard Brothers, a big DB with good speed and cover skills.

East TN HAWG

Quote from: al_pigcino on January 24, 2017, 01:45:29 pm
All of the best athletes would be this generation.  No athlete from the 60's would even compete at the level now.  All time team should really consist of everything from late 80's to now. 

If those athletes had the same nutrition and training, then absolutely they could compete with today's athletes.  Lloyd Phillips was large man.

LZH

Quote from: hoggusamoungus on January 24, 2017, 04:34:54 pm
No to Derek Russell.  On the Hogs' first offensive play in the '87 Texas game, he dropped a perfect pass from Greg Thomas that would have been a TD.  We all know how that game ultimately turned out.

Wasn't that the Tony Jones game?

Jackrabbit Hog

Quote from: LZH on January 24, 2017, 06:12:45 pm
Wasn't that the Tony Jones game?

Uh huh.   Never seen or heard 55,000 go so silent so quickly.
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LZH

Quote from: Jackrabbit Hog on January 24, 2017, 06:17:11 pm
Uh huh.   Never seen or heard 55,000 go so silent so quickly.

Us kids' seats were in the SEZ in those days, right in the middle of the goal post about 15 rows up and I had the same exact view that the QB did. Ball with straight through about 4 pairs of hands, but for some reason I knew it was over. Everyone kinda piled in so I couldn't actually see him catch it but I knew when it got it quiet in the NEZ, it was a done deal.

The OTR

I'd play loyd phillips on both sides of the ball.  Full back and tackle.

Fill in with other Razorback lackeys. My team still wins against these "all star" teams.

MS_HogFan

SOOIE

Tejano Jawg

I know you want offense, but I'm starting with the back 4 on defense. This wouldn't be a pleasant secondary to venture into.
-Kenoy Kennedy
-David Barrett
-Steve Atwater
-Ken Hamlin
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bvillepig

QB - Joe Ferguson
RB - Darren McFadden
RB - Gary Anderson
FB - Peyton Hillis
WR - Jarious Wright
WR - Anthony Lucas
WR - Lance Alworth
TE - Hunter Henry

Talon

QB - Joe Ferguson
RB - Darren McFadden
RB - Felix Jones
FB - Peyton Hillis
WR - Lance Alworth
WR - Chuck Dicus
WR - Jarious Wright
TE - Hunter Henry


lwillin

Quote from: Tejano Jawg on January 24, 2017, 06:55:29 pm
I know you want offense, but I'm starting with the back 4 on defense. This wouldn't be a pleasant secondary to venture into.
-Kenoy Kennedy
-David Barrett
-Steve Atwater
-Ken Hamlin
I wouldn't run a route into that secondary unless I was inside an armored tank.

RebelW

QB - Matt Jones
HB- Cedric Cobb
HB - Darren McFadden
TE - Hunter Henry
WR- Anthony Lucas
WR - Jarius Wright
LT - Shawn Andrews
LG - Freddie Childress
C - Jonathon Luigs
RG - Brandon Burlsworth
RT - Jim Mab

mightybulldogs12

 
QB - Quinn Grovey
RB - Darren McFadden
RB -  Madre Hill
FB - Peyton Hillis
WR - Cobi Hamilton
WR - Anthony Lucas
WR - Derek Russel
TE -  Hunter Henry

onebadrubi

Give me a healthy Greg child's at WR.  Dude was a stud before his injury in mop up duty

Pork Twain

January 25, 2017, 06:36:55 am #46 Last Edit: January 25, 2017, 08:04:41 am by Pork Twain
Quote from: Sho Nuff on January 24, 2017, 01:55:17 pm
Dear Lord...

Do you really believe that Jim Brown would not be a beast if he were at his prime today?

The term you are looking for is, exception not the rule.  How do you think Jerry and Jimmy would fare on the lines today?  The game has changed a lot since Jim Brown played as well.  The size and skill level of DL/LB much different but even back then JB had the size and skill of a current RB.  This makes it very difficult to have an All-Time team instead of a generational team. 

I am keeping it simple and only using guys that played when I was old enough to watch them.  I know I am leaving off some great players, but I never watched them, so to be consistent, I will not include them.  I will also follow the OP and only do offensive skill positions and not attempt to wow you by filling out the whole team.


QB - 1 Matt Jones 2 Clint Stoerner
FB - 1 Chrys Chukwuma 2 Peyton Hillis
RB - 1 Darren McFadden 2 Barry Foster
TE - 1- Hunter Henry 2 DJ Williams
WR - 1 Anthony Lucas 2 Cobi Hamilton
WR - 1 Joe Adams 2 Jarius Wright
WR - 1 Marcus Monk 2 George Wilson
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al_pigcino

Jim Brown wouldn't even start in the NFL now.  Athletes have just come too far.  In the 60's a 6'2 231 could bully people on the field.

NFL all decade team for the 60's on defense
Merlin Olsen - 270
Bob Lilly - 260
Deacon Jones - 270
Doug Atkins - 275

With that monstrous DL how could anyone ever run the ball?  Give me a break.  You think these guys even being 20 lbs lighter than most NFL players today are in the sub 5.0 40 range? 


Let's look at some of the recent combine performances for athletes today (these are future rookies, not even people in the league yet)

Darron Lee. After he ran 4.47, at 6-1 and 232 pounds, there were secondary coaches taking a peek to see if he could make an impact at safety. The linebacker coaches won't want to lose a guy that ran 4.47, jumped 35.5 inches in the vertical jump and registered 11-2 in the broad jump

Leonard Floyd was 220 pounds and thin a year ago at this time, so when he weighed in Friday, it raised a few eyebrows when the scale said 244. Of course, scouts then questioned whether he could still run. He answered that question quite authoritatively. He only did three different measurement tests — the 40, the vertical jump and the broad jump. At 244 pounds, Floyd walked away as a top performer in each of the three — 4.60 in the 40, 39.5-inch vertical jump and 10-7 broad jump

Auburn cornerback Jonathan Jones ran a 4.33, and Houston cornerback William Jackson, a dark horse first-round candidate, blazed a 4.37, the sixth-best time of the entire weekend.

So in perspective a sub 4.4 time was only the SIXTH best performance here.  Speed kills.  Even the 190-210 lb CB's of today would own Jim Brown.  Sorry guys, time to let go of the past. 

kibster

I see a lot of mention of Hillis at FB, and while he was a good FB, I still think he was a better RB, I think Kiero Small is who I would pick to lead the way for some of the RBs that are being mentioned.  One of my favorites of all time.
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Youngsta71701

Quote from: hvsupastar on January 24, 2017, 03:00:14 pm
QB: Tavaris Jackson
Rb: Dedrick Poole
FB: Mitch Petrus
WR: LaQuinta Funderburke
WR: Matt Jones
TE:  Jason Peters
LT:  Denver Kirkland, SR.
LG:  Hyjate Froholdt
C:  Brett Goode
RG:  Also Mitch Petrus
RT: Anthony Oden
At first I lol'd Then I serious'd... ;)
"The more things change the more they stay the same"