Obscure Fact for Those Who Love HOG Gear on Cars

[ballz2thewall]

Thanks OBAMA!

[BroyledNutts]

So, I guess this opens a loophole for some enterprising individual since UA doesn't own the left-facing hog?

Walmart has shelves of left facing Hog merchandise ...

[Inhogswetrust]

Branding 101 says a logo or brand should be the same/consistent. In principle what they did makes sense.

The question that was asked was, why not license both? Apparently this question doesn't bring a good answer, so its about this time that Mike Harris tells ya to go pound sand.

No it doesn't since most people put a set on each side of the car.  Besides IF that were true then why does the Hog logo on the players helmet both face the front of the helmet. Also then WHY do a front facing hog also. A LOT of logos' change consistently over the years as well.

[factchecker]

Wow! You are stellar in your rationalization of things. I'm sure you probably have a vested interest in some of these areas, so I get it.

Take off your tinfoil hat.  Just because somebody disagrees with you doesn't mean they have a "vested interest".

Unless by "vested interest" you mean they actually care about the Razorbacks and want to support them financially instead of being selfish and wanting things as cheap as possible.

[factchecker]

https://www.alumnihall.com/craftique/arkansas-razorbacks-leftward-f-12734

https://www.alumnihall.com/craftique/arkansas-razorbacks-logo-magne-12732

[LZH]

Also then WHY do a front facing hog also.

Boooo! Down with T-Rex Hog!

[ricepig]

Wow! You are stellar in your rationalization of things. I'm sure you probably have a vested interest in some of these areas, so I get it.

My only interest is that it takes money to run a program, and we are in the bottom half of the conference in ticket costs. As far as concession prices/revenue, the latest athletic budget shows revenue of about $1.2m from concessions from all sports, I don't think they are gouging an inordinate amount.

[3of5-2]

Take off your tinfoil hat.  Just because somebody disagrees with you doesn't mean they have a "vested interest".

Unless by "vested interest" you mean they actually care about the Razorbacks and want to support them financially instead of being selfish and wanting things as cheap as possible.

Cute, but you know exactly what I mean.

[3of5-2]

My only interest is that it takes money to run a program, and we are in the bottom half of the conference in ticket costs. As far as concession prices/revenue, the latest athletic budget shows revenue of about $1.2m from concessions from all sports, I don't think they are gouging an inordinate amount.

Ha! That's laughable.

[3of5-2]

I bet they would double that if they carried products from both Pepsi and Coke.

[razoredge178]

Lost one of my maggots that faced different directions about five years ago. I replaced the set and they were not the same facing. Unless that is before this edict went out then it's false.

You can see above where the licensing guy confirmed this as accurate

[outlawhogeywells]

Tickets sold and fill the stadium for every game aren't the same thing. Upper deck season tickets were $250 I believe last year, cheap enough. They lowered concession prices in 2016?? I believe, but some will bitch anyway.

plus we have the lowest ticket prices in the SEC.  as well as tickets for other schools.

[Hog-Corleone]

I must have bought my Razorback car magnets before this took effect.  I have had both right and left facing hog magnets for at least 5 years.  Got them either at Wal-Mart or a shop in Eureka Springs.  I only use them on game day and store them on a refrigerator in the garage the rest of the time. 

I second this, but I do know i bought mine 2 years ago at Big Red's on MLK...

[Craig O Squeal]

Ya know...if you all just bought the front-facing Hog magnet this wouldn't be an issue. Front-facing Hog always faces one direction. *ducks to avoid thrown object*

[Birminghog]

Good luck getting Pepsi and Coca-Cola to coexist on the same campus.  Most vendors have it stated in the contract that you can only carry their product. I think it would be easier for our fans to try and not be whiny [CENSORED] about soda.

This is also true for a lot of high schools. With them, whoever has the soda contract agrees to provide the scoreboard. No other products but theirs can be sold in the stadium.

[ricepig]

Ha! That's laughable.

You might be laughing, but it's a fact.

[BearsBisonsBoars]

Exactly right. The problem the university has is that the fans are the customers, not the athletic or other staff ... And once they figure this out again they will be getting back on the right track. Its not just about coke or pepsi its the fact the fans have not been treated as the customer as of late. This just happens to be a perfect example.... Some fans are pissed about the drinks, some about the unis, some about the logo, and on and on. Put it all together you end up with a new AD. Now lets see if they have learned anything, this guy has a chance to prove himself.

Fans are customers to the athletic department,  but not to the University as a whole.

Depending on how you look at it,  the students are the customers or the companies hiring their graduates are the customers.

[ricepig]

I bet they would double that if they carried products from both Pepsi and Coke.

It's the $20m that Pepsi is giving to place their products that is the money maker, Coke offered 1/2 of that.

[3of5-2]

It's the $20m that Pepsi is giving to place their products that is the money maker, Coke offered 1/2 of that.

Thanks for proving my point. It gets passed on to the customer.

[LZH]

Ya know...if you all just bought the front-facing Hog magnet this wouldn't be an issue. Front-facing Hog always faces one direction. *ducks to avoid thrown object*

I understand the north ear is a little taller than the south ear......

[Craig O Squeal]

I understand the north ear is a little taller than the south ear......

Only because Long couldn't sell all of the seats in the south ear.

[HogPharmer]

Thanks for proving my point. It gets passed on to the customer.

Pepsi isn't just giving the school $20M because they like the UofA. They expect to make that money back. That's how business works.

[ricepig]

Thanks for proving my point. It gets passed on to the customer.

Cokes cost more in the stadium 2011 than Pepsi cost in 2017, lol.

[3of5-2]

Coke outsells Pepsi 10 to 1. It's still a rip off, and Pepsi lost their butt on that deal.

[LZH]

Cokes cost more in the stadium 2011 than Pepsi cost in 2017, lol.

Supply and demand? Maybe Coke sold like crazy back then - but they couldn't give Pepsi's away after the switch.

Fwiw I like Pepsi better....not a whiskey drinker.

[Inhogswetrust]

You can see above where the licensing guy confirmed this as accurate

Then ask them WHY they sell DIFFERENT facing hogs in other things besides magnets and one post #55 with links proving some facing both directions. Fatchecker does indeed check for facts! Jeff is gone and things will change.

[Boardon Hamsay]

Glad Jeff the Carpet Bagger Long is GONE!!!

4th post of the thread, Delta. You are slipping! I need you to post Jeff Carpet Bagger Long 500 times in the trash forum as punishment for your lackluster efforts. Shouldn't take you too long. Additionally, I think there's a great possibility that your family name traces back to a lush history of carpet baggers.

[ricepig]

Coke outsells Pepsi 10 to 1. It's still a rip off, and Pepsi lost their butt on that deal.

"But truth be told, Coca-Cola has won the cola war. Coke controls 42% of the total carbonated soft drink market, compared with Pepsi's 30%, according to Beverage Digest. "

http://m.nasdaq.com/article/coke-vs-pepsi-by-the-numbers-cm337909

I only drink Diet Coke, so I would greatly appreciate the return to Coke products, but Pepsi won the contract. Your ignorance of the facts just keeps on going.

[elksnort]

4th post of the thread, Delta. You are slipping! I need you to post Jeff Carpet Bagger Long 500 times in the trash forum as punishment for your lackluster efforts. Shouldn't take you too long. Additionally, I think there's a great possibility that your family name traces back to a lush history of carpet baggers.

How many of these dumb ***** have ever bothered to look up the meaning of carpet bagger?

[elksnort]

"But truth be told, Coca-Cola has won the cola war. Coke controls 42% of the total carbonated soft drink market, compared with Pepsi's 30%, according to Beverage Digest. "

http://m.nasdaq.com/article/coke-vs-pepsi-by-the-numbers-cm337909

I only drink Diet Coke, so I would greatly appreciate the return to Coke products, but Pepsi won the contract. Your ignorance of the facts just keeps on going.

Diet Coke? Diet anything is horrible. Come on Rice, drink the real stuff.

[Inhogswetrust]

How many of these dumb ***** have ever bothered to look up the meaning of carpet bagger?

Or when in history it was used and by whom...............the losers.

[moses_007]

I have a set on my fridge that face both directions.

[HogPharmer]

How many of these dumb ***** have ever bothered to look up the meaning of carpet bagger?

I can tell you one that hasn't.

[3of5-2]

"But truth be told, Coca-Cola has won the cola war. Coke controls 42% of the total carbonated soft drink market, compared with Pepsi's 30%, according to Beverage Digest. "

http://m.nasdaq.com/article/coke-vs-pepsi-by-the-numbers-cm337909

I only drink Diet Coke, so I would greatly appreciate the return to Coke products, but Pepsi won the contract. Your ignorance of the facts just keeps on going.

Like I said, I get your biased angle. Pepsi may have won the contract, but they didn't win. They probably have lost more with the bad publicity they have received just by the posters on HV.

[a0ashle]

Like I said, I get your biased angle. Pepsi may have won the contract, but they didn't win. They probably have lost more with the bad publicity they have received just by the posters on HV.

The hogville effect, Pepsi's board has discussed at great length how to overcome it.

[Inhogswetrust]

The hogville effect, Pepsi's board has discussed at great length how to overcome it.

Haha! Last time I checked Pepsi is a little bit bigger than Hogville. But it's gaining on them!

[3of5-2]

The hogville effect, Pepsi's board has discussed at great length how to overcome it.

I have discussed the deal with reps from both Pepsi and Coke at length. They all agree, Pepsi made a bad decision. They were hoping for a better product on the field to help sell their product on campus. Obviously that didn't happen.

[Inhogswetrust]

I have discussed the deal with reps from both Pepsi and Coke at length. They all agree, Pepsi made a bad decision. They were hoping for a better product on the field to help sell their product on campus. Obviously that didn't happen.

Except the deal is NOT for only  the football stadium. And even if it were they and nobody else has any way to know how ANY single season will go.

[3of5-2]

Except the deal is NOT for only  the football stadium. And even if it were they and nobody else has any way to know how ANY single season will go.

It was an "uncommon" choice and they had to live with it.

[factchecker]

"Canz yoos believs that dose dam carpurt baggurds in Magnolias switched to that yankee waters too.  Dam medicotry accept loosers."

http://www.magnoliareporter.com/education/colleges_universities/article_c9dae414-a0b1-11e1-ac25-001a4bcf887a.html


Heck.  little rock made the switch a while back:

http://thecabin.net/stories/121702/sta_1217020046.shtml#.WjMUwN9KuUk

[Inhogswetrust]

"Canz yoos believs that dose dam carpurt baggurds in Magnolias switched to that yankee waters too.  Dam medicotry accept loosers."

http://www.magnoliareporter.com/education/colleges_universities/article_c9dae414-a0b1-11e1-ac25-001a4bcf887a.html


Heck.  little rock made the switch a while back:

http://thecabin.net/stories/121702/sta_1217020046.shtml#.WjMUwN9KuUk

And the funny thing is a lot of people don't know exactly where Pepsi originated from. It was North Carolina. Not exactly yankee waters.

[FiveIronFrenzy]

Branding 101 says a logo or brand should be the same/consistent. In principle what they did makes sense.

The question that was asked was, why not license both? Apparently this question doesn't bring a good answer, so its about this time that Mike Harris tells ya to go pound sand.

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Bingo.  I work as a Brand Strategist.  Consistency of font, color, logo, style and tone are all done to help elevate the brand.  Same reason why you don't see slobbering Hog on the court anymore.

[snoblind]

mmm, Pepsi.

[HogPharmer]

mmm, Pepsi.

[PorkSoda]

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Bingo.  I work as a Brand Strategist.  Consistency of font, color, logo, style and tone are all done to help elevate the brand.  Same reason why you don't see slobbering Hog on the court anymore.

isnt the point to attract fans?  seems like being disconnected from the fans would hurt a brand more than help.  last I checked people that truly excel, do so by moving past the text book and blazing a new trail.

[snoblind]

[FiveIronFrenzy]

isnt the point to attract fans?  seems like being disconnected from the fans would hurt a brand more than help.  last I checked people that truly excel, do so by moving past the text book and blazing a new trail.

There are standards for gauging a brand's strength and value, one of which is called a net promoter score. This shows favorability toward a brand.  The NPS can be elevated naturally by getting a hold on some of the things i mentioned above.  So in essence...it may not make "fans" but it does change perception.

While I disagree with the "only right" facing Hog, especially since we violate that rule in the most visible place (left side of helmet), I do understand why it's being done.

[PorkSoda]

There are standards for gauging a brand's strength and value, one of which is called a net promoter score. This shows favorability toward a brand.  The NPS can be elevated naturally by getting a hold on some of the things i mentioned above.  So in essence...it may not make "fans" but it does change perception.

While I disagree with the "only right" facing Hog, especially since we violate that rule in the most visible place (left side of helmet), I do understand why it's being done.

just seems like short sighted thinking.  it substitutes practical functionality for strict adherence to text book rules of thumb.

IOW, its lazy thinking

[East Clintwood]

I bet they would double that if they carried products from both Pepsi and Coke.

Well, I for one would pay more than double for a Coke vrs a Pepsi.

But that's because I won't buy a Pepsi at all.  Nasty crap.

[HoggyCat]

Thanks OBAMA!

You mean "Ojeffie".