Ricky Town to Hogs

[lahawg1]

I don't think he loses his scholarship just because he got injured, especially seeing it occured after fall camp started.

I can't see anyone taking anything away from JWill

[tophawg19]

looks like a 4 way dogfight next season with 4 highly ranked qb's . have we ever had this many at 1 time ? to the best of my memory all were highly ranked at the position. 2 mobile in Peavey and Town and two more pocket guys although AA can run a bit himself Storey is the one no one fears his running but rushing a guy his size isn't fun. He is strong enough to toss off a defender and big enough to bull doze them. Every one of them can get you 10 on their feet .

[TeedupHigh]

How about Cole Kelly........................

[grayhawg]

Not a 4 horse race. They wouldn't even play AA when BA was hurt.

This:   and I bet one or maybe two will transfer.

[hoggusamoungus]

How about Cole Kelly........................

From Richard Davenport.



Arkansas quarterback commitment Cole Kelley- Lafayette, (La.) Teurlings Catholic on if Town transfering to Arkansas has an impact on his pledge.
"Absolutely not."

[Hog_Swanson]

what position would he switch to?

Receiver, isn't he supposed to be fast on his feet?  I don't know much about the kid, but if he is an athlete, they'll figure something out.

[bennyl08]

looks like a 4 way dogfight next season with 4 highly ranked qb's . have we ever had this many at 1 time ? to the best of my memory all were highly ranked at the position. 2 mobile in Peavey and Town and two more pocket guys although AA can run a bit himself Storey is the one no one fears his running but rushing a guy his size isn't fun. He is strong enough to toss off a defender and big enough to bull doze them. Every one of them can get you 10 on their feet .

Wait, what? In what way is Town considered a mobile qb? Watching his highlights, it is apparent that his athleticism is about on par with Storey's. Neither guy will strike fear into defenses with their running, but both are about on Tyler Wilson's level, so they are what I would consider frustratingly athletic. The guy who you don't generally fear to run the ball, but is smart enough and athletic enough to make you pay if you ignore their ability to run with 8 yard gains and slides. Peavey is certainly the biggest run threat and Austin can do some damage too. I think BA is quicker than his brother, but his brother is faster.

[AugustaHog]

Somewhere HDN is asking himself what the frick.


My question:  Is there a concern about the talent we have on campus right now.  We are QB poor which the last time I remember was with Sorahan/Jones/Jackson.

I don't know that I would call our depth chart "QB poor", but we don't have anyone who has stepped up and announced themselves the heir apparent.  Obviously, that is an altogether separate concern.  I think we will find a quality QB from the guys we have.  We will have 4 guys who have ability and talent going through spring and fall camp with a shot at taking the reigns next year.  CBB and Enos realize how important next year could be.  We return virtually everyone on D and quite a bit on offense.  If we find a QB and a couple RBs, we will be in a serious spot to contend over the next few years. 

[Sivad]

Exactly the attitude you want to see. 

Yes it is. Uncommon.

[HogPharmer]

FIFY

Gonna be another classic "knile or kniles" issue.... Let's just go with whatever Gary Danielson & Verne decide to call him from week to week

[HogMantheIntruder]

JWill?

Seriously?

[Bowfishinghogfan]

surely we lose 2 qb's over this but we just gained one better than whats up on the hill now. It will be his position to lose not his to win. from a competition standpoint alone, he has faced a lot harder teams and much better athletes than any of the other qb's on the hill.
glad we have a qb logjam problem. this is defiantly not the norm

[HOGINTENNESSEE]

I have a feeling that we will have the same problem with Ricky Town(s) as we did with Knile(s) Davis...

NO "S" ATs THEs ENDs OFs HISs NAMEs.  LET"Ss GETs THISs RIGHTs PEOPLEs...

I would like to point out the number 1 in the NBA draft's name is Towns with an S

[Uberanubis]

Seriously?

actually, it may be possible since jwill is out for the year, and if he will not return, he could give up his scholarship and go to a medical scholarship for the remainder of the semester.

I believe I remember reading he only needs like 3 credit hours this semester to graduate.

not saying that would happen but I think its possible.

[Doug]

Town is the player to be named later...We sent Mitch and Damien for Broderick.

Broderick was the consolation prize for letting them kick our ass so heavily back to back.

[jcharkansas]

Big time pick up. We are loaded at qb for the future

Yea now they just need some WRs to throw too.

[tophawg19]

Wait, what? In what way is Town considered a mobile qb? Watching his highlights, it is apparent that his athleticism is about on par with Storey's. Neither guy will strike fear into defenses with their running, but both are about on Tyler Wilson's level, so they are what I would consider frustratingly athletic. The guy who you don't generally fear to run the ball, but is smart enough and athletic enough to make you pay if you ignore their ability to run with 8 yard gains and slides. Peavey is certainly the biggest run threat and Austin can do some damage too. I think BA is quicker than his brother, but his brother is faster.

watch town's highlights . he is mobile and very good on roll outs . he throws well on the run .

[presidenthog]

One other thing !!!!

1. Offensive line U .. Check.
2. RBU.... Check.
3. QBU ? Hell yeah. Check.

Coming next ? WRU !!!!

Come on down Cleveland.

we was left out or clevelands top 8. you only get 5 officials... it seems to be over with him for the time being unless a great year changes things.

[TheRazorback500]

watch town's highlights . he is mobile and very good on roll outs . he throws well on the run .

I saw them... His footwork is solid and he has a live arm. I think we're going to like this guy.

:razorback:

[factchecker]

I saw them... His footwork is solid and he has a live arm. I think we're going to like this guy.

:razorback:

This okie turned Arkansas writer takes some shots at Coach B b/c of Towns transfer

https://twitter.com/ericwbolin/status/634885392223698944

[ricepig]

This okie turned Arkansas writer takes some shots at Coach B b/c of Towns transfer

https://twitter.com/ericwbolin/status/634885392223698944

Yeah, he's a hipster, going for the "realistic" approach on all things Hogs related.

[TheRazorback500]

Wow, he's critical.

[bigbadhog]

I think AA and RP go after this year.  Storey and Town going forward...

[theFlyingHog]

This okie turned Arkansas writer takes some shots at Coach B b/c of Towns transfer

https://twitter.com/ericwbolin/status/634885392223698944

Did we just answer the most asked question, Who Is Robert Shields?

[factchecker]

Wow, he's critical.

I'm not even mad that the writer suggest that Town chose Arkansas due to the lack of qb talent on our roster. 

Because how could a "team with two total conference wins in the last two seasons, one with a ground-and-pound tradition" be a better fit than USC's rich football tradition. 

I understand everyone has their own opinion.  It's great to try and view the situation from every angle. 

However, I do take issue with him suggesting this kid has baggage.  Really?  In a time where coaches hide rape charges and take in woman beaters we are going to fault a coach for accepting a kid who, for all we know, has a spotless record.  I guess we need to have a running back who broke a woman's face like the writer's home state Sooners to be his definition of Uncommon. 

[HOGINTENNESSEE]

Yeah, he's a hipster, going for the "realistic" approach on all things Hogs related.

He did a very poor job proving his argument that Town has any character issues that goes against CBB culture

[PossumFan]

looks like a 4 way dogfight next season with 4 highly ranked qb's . have we ever had this many at 1 time ?

Fred Marshall, Jon Brittenum, Gordon Guest, Bill Gray in the '60s. Before the star-based ratings system, but those were four pretty good ones on one team.

[go hogues]

I bet AA stays at this point in his career. He is much like Nathan Dick in that he probably won't fill in his brothers shoes as starter. But he's a good kid. I bet he stays.

Peavy might be odd man out here and may look at his options while he still has years left to work with.

So I really see it as a two horse race.

Nathan Dick transferred...

[MissippHog]

He did a very poor job proving his argument that Town has any character issues that goes against CBB culture

I don't think he proved anything with that article other than he knows how to slam a kid without even knowing him.  If anyone has character issues it's the author (see how easy that is?)

[Hog N Bama]

If my memory is correct this is the second year that CBB saved a scholarship that he was able to put to good use later on. How much hair pulling and angst was there in the recruiting forum over that 25th spot ? It was ridiculous to read some of the responses...

I'm very impressed with the patience CBB has shown in the recruiting process. He's very smart. If he wants to hold a scholarship every year to pick up a stud late in the game then great !!!! So glad CBB didn't just grab anyone to fill that final spot as many here seemed to want !!!!

WPS !!!! This is huge guys , huge. Enos is showing what he brings to the table right away. Folks if we can put a passing game with our running attack the Hogs are going to quickly become an annual top 5 team... This is just a HUGE HUGE get... GO HOGS GO CBB !!! WPS  :razorback:

Great post! Coach B has each slot saved for an UNCOMMON Man!  :razorback:

[hogchic2001]

The ole reverse Mustain.

Classic!!!!! 😜

[factchecker]

Last statement about the aforementioned writer--- 

Being critical of a coach doesn't bother me.  Making assumptions about a kids character with little to base it on does.   

However, after viewing and thankfully not engaging this fool on twitter, it is plain to see he is of the "new wave" social media reporters.  They take pride in being controversial via "hot takes" vs. having integrity.  They rather be internet famous and create click bait material that pisses off the local fan base.  The writer is having a grand time laughing about our fan base.  How a grown man who works as a "professional journalist" relishes in trolling people is beyond me.

Sorry for the rant.  GO HOGS!

[presidenthog]

from what bo mattingly says he believes Rafe and ty have no shot at starting that austin is on another planet. I'm not sure why he doesn't believe that after a RS year that ty can't learn the offense and adjust to the speed of the game. I believe Rafe will never start. I'm just not sure if he has adjusted to the speed yet and he may never. I have not been impressed with Austin at all so If he is the starter I hope he has improved alot. I'm hoping the 2 frosh can adjust and push for starting spot just for competition sake.

[factchecker]

from what bo mattingly says he believes Rafe and ty have no shot at starting that austin is on another planet. I'm not sure why he doesn't believe that after a RS year that ty can't learn the offense and adjust to the speed of the game. I believe Rafe will never start. I'm just not sure if he has adjusted to the speed yet and he may never. I have not been impressed with Austin at all so If he is the starter I hope he has improved alot. I'm hoping the 2 frosh can adjust and push for starting spot just for competition sake.

My amateur non "hot-take" evaluation of each quarterback based on handful of scrimmages I've attended:

Austin:  Pros- Gunslinger, playmaker, patient in the pocket
            Cons- Will force throws instead of throwing away. 

Rafe:   Pros- Highly mobile, strong armed, great spiral
           Cons- height, looks to run early

Ty-  Hard to judge this early -- I've heard weak arm, but I've yet see him have a chance to really air it out.

In the end, it really is hard to judge any of the quarterbacks.  We have to get some live, in game views to form an honest opinion.  I'm a B.A. supporter but I do hope we have a chance (b/c we are blowing a team out) to see the other guys get reps.

[Seebs]

I assume the phrase that goes with Erin's rant is ' U mad bro"?   

[HawgnCorona]

Wow!!

[presidenthog]

My amateur non "hot-take" evaluation of each quarterback based on handful of scrimmages I've attended:

Austin:  Pros- Gunslinger, playmaker, patient in the pocket
            Cons- Will force throws instead of throwing away. 

Rafe:   Pros- Highly mobile, strong armed, great spiral
           Cons- height, looks to run early

Ty-  Hard to judge this early -- I've heard weak arm, but I've yet see him have a chance to really air it out.

In the end, it really is hard to judge any of the quarterbacks.  We have to get some live, in game views to form an honest opinion.  I'm a B.A. supporter but I do hope we have a chance (b/c we are blowing a team out) to see the other guys get reps.

I've heard basically what your saying. I figure Rafe would try using his athleticism instead of being patient, this is why I hate mobile QB's usually. I feel like instead of trying to be the smartest player on the field (which a qb must be to be great) they rely on thier feet and tend to make poorer desicions. do you think the feeling for ty's weak arm could come from him being a frosh without proper S&C and him being uncomfortable with the offense/reads and not just letting it rip?

also in saying this the reason I'm excited about town is he has 4.6 speed but wants to be a pocket passer. he is an athlete that is a QB first and foremost. not the other way around.

[redeye]

Last statement about the aforementioned writer--- 

Being critical of a coach doesn't bother me.  Making assumptions about a kids character with little to base it on does.   

However, after viewing and thankfully not engaging this fool on twitter, it is plain to see he is of the "new wave" social media reporters.  They take pride in being controversial via "hot takes" vs. having integrity.  They rather be internet famous and create click bait material that pisses off the local fan base.  The writer is having a grand time laughing about our fan base.  How a grown man who works as a "professional journalist" relishes in trolling people is beyond me.

Sorry for the rant.  GO HOGS!

Yea, I agree.  Except that he doesn't come across as a grown man to me.

WTH Faldon?  Did you hire this clown?

[jkstock04]

Not a 4 horse race. They wouldn't even play AA when BA was hurt.

My thoughts as well..an injured Brandon Allen is better than our back ups...that's been made crystal clear (even though it was very tough to believe at the time). This move to bring this kid in speaks volumes.

I'll be honest, it gives me a different view of Bielema and this staff as a whole. A big time blue chip qb from California? To Arkansas? That's unheard of and big time if you ask me. The more I research about this kid in high school and what not in mind blown that he would come here...it's quite exciting honestly.

[factchecker]

To be honest about Ty, I don't know.  I've only really seen Ty during the warm ups.  Coach Enos puts the quarterbacks through a pretty rigorous warm up which you probably won't see prior to games.  They do footwork and bag drills before throwing into a target net.  Ty looks a little slower and less powerful than the rest.  It definitely could be strength and conditioning oriented.  Ty could also could be having trouble taking a snap from under center.  I often forget that he is only a True Freshman who was running an offense from the gun a year ago.

[bennyl08]

watch town's highlights . he is mobile and very good on roll outs . he throws well on the run .

I did. It was actually the second time I've watched them. I agree he throws well on the run and does good on roll outs. However, I'd argue that Ty's highlights look even better when throwing on the run. However, those were not the credentials used to define mobility previously. It was whether or not defenses would fear their ability to run. I'd be surprised if Town ran a 40 in less than 5 seconds. You don't have to be fast to be able to move in the pocket or be able to roll out and throw on the run.

[redeye]

My opinion is that all this worry about what will happen with our QB's is ridiculous.  Quarterback battles are normal, which is why the SECN has spent so much time covering them the past few weeks.  This is a good thing, because it creates competition.

No quarterback is ever guaranteed the starting position, because that has to be won.  Those who don't play well enough, battle for the backup position.  If they don't make it as a backup, then they get the opportunity to continue competing for it or they can transfer and there's nothing wrong with transferring.  If Storey, Peavey or Allen transfer, then it's probably in their best interest.  What it does NOT mean is that anyone was treated wrong or unfairly, unless Bielema personally guaranteed them that they'd eventually be the starter, which I seriously doubt.

[presidenthog]

I did. It was actually the second time I've watched them. I agree he throws well on the run and does good on roll outs. However, I'd argue that Ty's highlights look even better when throwing on the run. However, those were not the credentials used to define mobility previously. It was whether or not defenses would fear their ability to run. I'd be surprised if Town ran a 40 in less than 5 seconds. You don't have to be fast to be able to move in the pocket or be able to roll out and throw on the run.

the 4.6 speed I got from someone in the recruiting forum. I did not look up his 40 but I probably should have looked that up myself but I just figured they was a recruiting junkie and did the leg work for me. take that # with caution.

[jkstock04]

My opinion is that all this worry about what will happen with our QB's is ridiculous.  Quarterback battles are normal, which is why the SECN has spent so much time covering them the past few weeks.  This is a good thing, because it creates competition.

No quarterback is ever guaranteed the starting position, because that has to be won.  Those who don't play well enough, battle for the backup position.  If they don't make it as a backup, then they get the opportunity to continue competing for it or they can transfer and there's nothing wrong with transferring.  If Storey, Peavey or Allen transfer, then it's probably in their best interest.  What it does NOT mean is that anyone was treated wrong or unfairly, unless Bielema personally guaranteed them that they'd eventually be the starter, which I seriously doubt.

Well evidently we have had zero QB competition thus far during the Bielema era. I honestly thought he was just loyal to a fault...to the most experienced qb on campus come hell or high water that's who he would go with regardless.

This move makes me think different.

[HF#1]

Well evidently we have had zero QB competition thus far during the Bielema era. I honestly thought he was just loyal to a fault...to the most experienced qb on campus come hell or high water that's who he would go with regardless.

This move makes me think different.

Why?  Cause he is taking essentially 2 QB's for 2016?  Austin, Rafe, Ty, Cole and Ricky will all compete for the job. It makes no sense to me that Austin would leave.  Rafe, maybe. The notion that Ty or Ricky will just waltz in and take the job in 2016 is laughable. People underestimate Austin badly. 

[bigbadhog]

Why?  Cause he is taking essentially 2 QB's for 2016?  Austin, Rafe, Ty, Cole and Ricky will all compete for the job. It makes no sense to me that Austin would leave.  Rafe, maybe. The notion that Ty or Ricky will just waltz in and take the job in 2016 is laughable. People underestimate Austin badly. 

Including the coaches.  See Missouri game...

[lefty08]

Why?  Cause he is taking essentially 2 QB's for 2016?  Austin, Rafe, Ty, Cole and Ricky will all compete for the job. It makes no sense to me that Austin would leave.  Rafe, maybe. The notion that Ty or Ricky will just waltz in and take the job in 2016 is laughable. People underestimate Austin badly.

Nobody will leave until after the spring anyhow, after then we will see

QBs have to leave to get PT, nature of the beast

[HF#1]

Including the coaches.  See Missouri game...

You think Brandon was the problem in the Missouri game?  How many times did we lose when we threw the ball more than 30 times? Jim Chaney was the problem against Mizzou, not our QB or the backup QB...

[jkstock04]

Why?  Cause he is taking essentially 2 QB's for 2016?  Austin, Rafe, Ty, Cole and Ricky will all compete for the job. It makes no sense to me that Austin would leave.  Rafe, maybe. The notion that Ty or Ricky will just waltz in and take the job in 2016 is laughable. People underestimate Austin badly. 

The simple fact of the matter is that like discussed above...an injured Brandon Allen is (or was) a better choice at qb than Austin Allen. No way to spin that.

This fall even after Brandon struggled and Austin seemingly did well in a scrimmage, Bielema said Brandon was #1 and would continue to be so...he said it without the slightest hesitation. 

IF he were to get beat out for the QB job next year I wouldn't see much reason for him to stay? To me, like I said...this move speaks volumes...and it's very exciting to me as a fan that we can pull an out of state player of this magnitude. WOW is all I can say.

[presidenthog]

Why?  Cause he is taking essentially 2 QB's for 2016?  Austin, Rafe, Ty, Cole and Ricky will all compete for the job. It makes no sense to me that Austin would leave.  Rafe, maybe. The notion that Ty or Ricky will just waltz in and take the job in 2016 is laughable. People underestimate Austin badly.

It wasn't until this fall camp that anyone, including the coaches, had anything positive to say about austin. so sorry that no one has faith in him at this point. the reason people are hopeful is lack of good news about AA and RP and are hopeful that like other QB's elsewhere that have redshirted and improved enough over that time frame, that our own highly ranked frosh can do the same.