With DC's demaning more money?

[nwahogfan1]

How much Money can Chavis demand and for how many years would he want guaranteed?

Would he want $2 million a year for 3 years?  A&M would help the first year but it would be all us the other years.

Is he worth that?

Or should be go with a younger up and ocmer who has had great success but at a smaller school.

[Hogindasticks]

O Lord, here goes Norvell again...lmao

[Wildhog]

It'd be really stupid to pay Chavis more than he's making at TAMU.

[thebignasty]

It'd be really stupid to pay Chavis more than he's making at TAMU.

im preparing myself for it

[ricepig]

It'd be really stupid to pay Chavis more than he's making at TAMU.

I can't believe we would pay more than that, which I thought was too much, anyway.

[Wildhog]

I can't believe we would pay more than that, which I thought was too much, anyway.

I was going to post that it'd be really stupid to pay him AS MUCH as he's making at TAMU, but figured people would have a fit about it. 

[Coondog Hog]

Arranda just changed the price tag on lots of good coaches

[Wildhog]

Arranda just changed the price tag on lots of good coaches

2018 John Chavis ain't worth 2M/year.

[colbs]

2018 John Chavis ain't worth 2M/year.

Agreed.  I will say that Arranda isn't doing anything that Chavis wasn't at LSU. 

[Wildhog]

Agreed.  I will say that Arranda isn’t doing anything that Chavis wasn’t at LSU. 

I agree with that.  Elite talent will make any DC look good.

Although I am a big fan of Aranda.  He's also a stud recruiter.

[ChopSooie]

Let's be honest, no football coach is worth the millions of dollars they are making to coach football.

That being said, we pay what the market dictates and if that is 2M for 2018 Chavis then we will pay that.

[Hawginj]

I dont believe Arkansas is paying more than 1.5 for Chavis

[Wildhog]

Let's be honest, no football coach is worth the millions of dollars they are making to coach football.

That being said, we pay what the market dictates and if that is 2M for 2017 Chavis then we will pay that.

No one else would pay that for Chavis.  We're a bunch of suckers if we RAISE his pay from TAMU.

[HamboFirstBlood]

No one else would pay that for Chavis.  We're a bunch of suckers if we RAISE his pay from TAMU.

It would be the most "Arkansas" thing ever.

[opineonswine]

Let's be honest, no football coach is worth the millions of dollars they are making to coach football.

That being said, we pay what the market dictates and if that is 2M for 2018 Chavis then we will pay that.

An intelligent voice in this wilderness.

[kp72204]

I agree with that.  Elite talent will make any DC look good.

Although I am a big fan of Aranda.  He's also a stud recruiter.

I think places like LSU and bama recruit themselves.

[Wildhog]

I think places like LSU and bama recruit themselves.

I'm talking about what he did at Wisconsin. 

[jdlew]

I don't care what they have to pay...BOT and GOBN got this ball rolling..so they can come up with the money to finish it off..

[LZH]

No one else would pay that for Chavis.  We're a bunch of suckers if we RAISE his pay from TAMU.

It would be the most "Arkansas" thing ever.

^^^^^

[Wildhog]

I don't care what they have to pay...BOT and GOBN got this ball rolling..so they can come up with the money to finish it off..

So long as it doesn't take away from position coach salaries, that's fine. 

We absolutely, positively, 1000000% have to hire proven recruiters. 

[IronHog]

No one else would pay that for Chavis.  We're a bunch of suckers if we RAISE his pay from TAMU.

Does social security reduce his buyout?

[Hogindasticks]

I don't care what they have to pay...BOT and GOBN got this ball rolling..so they can come up with the money to finish it off..

I agree, to make it work, gotta take care of the green....otherwise...back in the same boat.

[colbs]

So long as it doesn't take away from position coach salaries, that's fine. 

We absolutely, positively, 1000000% have to hire proven recruiters. 

What's your thoughts on Ron Cooper as a recruiter?  Steve Caldwell has shown he has an eye for talent.

[HogNTX]

Remember Yurachek isn't a fan of overloading contracts and especially guarantees. I say put incentives in there and let him earn the extra.

[SDZ_Hog]

So long as it doesn't take away from position coach salaries, that's fine. 

We absolutely, positively, 1000000% have to hire proven recruiters.

That's what I think.  Pay good for a DC but have the cash to go after proven position coaches.   If Chavis is going to suck cash away from high quality position coaches who can recruit than I don't want him

[HamboFirstBlood]

Does social security reduce his buyout?

Depends on if he takes the assisted living housing community retirement package or not.

[Wildhog]

What’s your thoughts on Ron Cooper as a recruiter?  Steve Caldwell has shown he has an eye for talent.

He's a tremendous evaluator of talent and an elite DB coach.  I'm not sure how he'd do recruiting against big-time programs at Arkansas, but I know he could find talent and develop it.

I feel almost exactly the same about Caldwell.  Outstanding evaluator.

Bottom line: I think both would be very solid hires.

[colbs]

He's a tremendous evaluator of talent and an elite DB coach.  I'm not sure how he'd do recruiting against big-time programs, but I know he could find talent and develop it.

I feel almost exactly the same about Caldwell.  Outstanding evaluator.

Bottom line: I think both would be very solid hires.

That might be more important at Arkansas.  Jeff Traylor is a great recruiter.  It would be nice if the other secondary coach is a proven recruiter.

[Wildhog]

That might be more important at Arkansas.  Jeff Traylor is a great recruiter.  It would be nice if the other secondary coach is a proven recruiter.

VERY important at Arkansas.  We're not going to win many toe-to-toe recruiting battles with the bluebloods.  We HAVE to be able to find under-recruited talent and develop them. 

[HoggyCat]

***DCs

[IronHog]

VERY important at Arkansas.  We're not going to win many toe-to-toe recruiting battles with the bluebloods.  We HAVE to be able to find under-recruited talent and develop them. 

4-2-5 and exotic blitzes


Recruit some sketchy kids too

[Wildhog]

4-2-5 and exotic blitzes


Recruit some sketchy kids too

Hire Trooper and get him his bags o' cash.

[IronHog]

Hire Trooper and get him his bags o' cash.

Works for me


Get a chop blocker for OL coach too



Might not outrecruit the big boys but you can make them watch their million dollar knees

[Wildhog]

Works for me


Get a chop blocker for OL coach too



Might not outrecruit the big boys but you can make them watch their million dollar knees

I'm in.  Time to get dirty.

[IronHog]

I'm in.  Time to get dirty.

Coach Morris seems like a fine man


He'll do OK.  Need a meaner BP

[IronHog]

Where are Fred Fairchild and Antwon Robinson anyway?

[Pig in the Pokey]

No one else would pay that for Chavis.  We're a bunch of suckers if we RAISE his pay from TAMU.

who cares? at least they are trying to go big.

[opineonswine]

Hire Trooper and get him his bags o' cash.

Supposedly they offered but he's staying in Jonesboro.  Daughter plays basketball for the Indians (I know...I know) and he is hoping to succeed current HC.  So I heard....

[Wildhog]

who cares? at least they are trying to go big.

If it takes away from assistant salaries, I care.  If not, then I'm with you.

[Al Boarland]

2018 John Chavis ain't worth 2M/year.

Generally speaking contracts aren't based on performance in CFB. We can't say "we don't think you are that good, so we will offer you x".  That's not how it works. Chavis will get paid b/c CCM wants a flashy name.

[Al Boarland]

I think places like LSU and bama recruit themselves.

True, but it's a combination. The right guy with the right logo on his shirt recruits at a high level. Take away the guy or the logo and you are missing on studs.

[murthage]

Ironhog.... now the comment on Social Security is a classic.  Kudos to you.

[jcharkansas]

4-2-5 and exotic blitzes


Recruit some sketchy kids too

One things for sure IMO, there a several kids in this State that are overlooked every year that could contribute, diamond in the rough type, I hope they really evaluate the Ark kids and don't just offer who is in the top 10 in state

[ErieHog]

One things for sure IMO, there a several kids in this State that are overlooked every year that could contribute, diamond in the rough type, I hope they really evaluate the Ark kids and don't just offer who is in the top 10 in state

Not really.   The only way to get these 'diamonds in the rough',  is to offer them *and* an excess of other potential developmental players at a success rate that's astronomically high.

Yes, other Arkansas guys do become legitimate players in college football;  even all of those, however, aren't SEC quality.

Essentially, the idea that we could mine Arkansas  more than marginally more efficiently is a sunk cost investment, that would curtail our ability to recruit elsewhere.    You only ask for perfection, in  hit/miss developmental projects-- an irrational standard.