Matt Hall to visit Ole Piss

[The Realist]

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[The Boar War]

I would think he would like to get under the tutelage of an OL coach who has NFL experience.  Not one who teaches how to run block only.  Maybe he's only going for the free Ole Miss t-shirt.

[cardinalhawg]

I saw that in the ADG the other day along with other recruits taking other visits.  It seems that is the norm nowadays, regardless of how firmly one is committed to a school.

[Beaverfever]

IMO, it is unfair that it is perfectly normal and acceptable for recruits to take visits after they have committed and it just terrible for a school to pull a scholarship offer from a committed recruit.  I agree with Charlie Weis' philosophy that if the recruit is still lookin so is he.  I don't mean this to sound like I'm callin out hall or any of our recruits.

[Hugehogsfan]

Good for him (and I mean that postively) enjoy a free trip to Mississippi, and then come back and realize that you really need to come to U of A. 

[Music City Hog]

IMO, it is unfair that it is perfectly normal and acceptable for recruits to take visits after they have committed and it just terrible for a school to pull a scholarship offer from a committed recruit.  I agree with Charlie Weis' philosophy that if the recruit is still lookin so is he.  I don't mean this to sound like I'm callin out hall or any of our recruits.

i aree 100%!  A commitment means you are comitted so why visit other places?  What if at a couple's wedding the guy said, "I do, but Im gonna keep dating while we are married to see if I like someone else better, but Im still committed to you".   A commitment in recruiting these days means absolutely nothing.  It means you are one of the schools Im considering.  Its perfectly fine to visit many schools to make a good choice for yourself, but just dont "commit" anywhere until you are done and have actually made a decision.  This whole process has turned into a joke by these kids.

(Im not bashing any of our recruits, just high school prospects in general, nobody specific)

[Beaverfever]

i aree 100%!  A commitment means you are comitted so why visit other places?  What if at a couple's wedding the guy said, "I do, but Im gonna keep dating while we are married to see if I like someone else better, but Im still committed to you".   A commitment in recruiting these days means absolutely nothing.  It means you are one of the schools Im considering.  Its perfectly fine to visit many schools to make a good choice for yourself, but just dont "commit" anywhere until you are done and have actually made a decision.  This whole process has turned into a joke by these kids.

(Im not bashing any of our recruits, just high school prospects in general, nobody specific)

Yeah can you imagine if Petrino said we decided we found a new OL to take Hall's scholarship so we're going to go with him and revoke hall's offer.  We would be burned at the stake.

[Hogway]

This is a nice opportunity for Matt to get out and see some Ole Miss chicks.  I knew in high school that if you wanted to see a slew of hot chicks in one place then you went down to Ole Miss for the weekend.  I can only imagine getting the weekend for free!  I see moderate danger but nothing to be overly concerned about.  That is just me though.

[PorkSoda]

Good for him (and I mean that postively) enjoy a free trip to Mississippi, and then come back and realize that you really need to come to U of A. 

He will get to see how much better the ARkansas facilities are than Ole Miss

[HOGINTENNESSEE]

First Nutt couldn't keep the good recruits in the state. Now they may want to follow him. WTH

[tulsafan101010]

i aree 100%!  A commitment means you are comitted so why visit other places?  What if at a couple's wedding the guy said, "I do, but Im gonna keep dating while we are married to see if I like someone else better, but Im still committed to you".   A commitment in recruiting these days means absolutely nothing.  It means you are one of the schools Im considering.  Its perfectly fine to visit many schools to make a good choice for yourself, but just dont "commit" anywhere until you are done and have actually made a decision.  This whole process has turned into a joke by these kids.

(Im not bashing any of our recruits, just high school prospects in general, nobody specific)

Sort of like when Petrino stole Tyler Wilson from the list of Tulsa commits?

[Beaverfever]

Sort of like when Petrino stole Tyler Wilson from the list of Tulsa commits?

No one ever said it wasn't shady both ways. 

[hog_fan]

Sort of like when Petrino stole Tyler Wilson from the list of Tulsa commits?

Wilson wanted to be a hog all of long, but Nutt didn't want him. He didn't make Wilson agree to come here.

[hawgsav1]

I have a question with Matt Hall.  He always seemed like a beast in size, but his stats were less than impressive.  How does a guy who's massive (he's listed at 6'10 and nearly 350 lbs I think) have only a bench of 315 lbs max and a squat of 400 lbs?  That's pretty pitiful for an O-lineman.  This is from his Rivals bio.  I think that might be a mistake, but jeez louise.  Also, I wouldn't be surprised to see him go to Ole Piss.  Nutty ain't a great coach, but Markuson is the best coach out of his whole staff.  There's a good reason that most of our players in the NFL play at linemen spots.  Think Shawn Andrews, Jason Peters, Bobbie Williams, etc.

[Music City Hog]

Sort of like when Petrino stole Tyler Wilson from the list of Tulsa commits?

I wasnt just talking about our "commits" who were taking other visits.  Im talking about all high school prospects from around the country.  Like I said, taking multiple visits is a good thing, but dont commit to any school until you have taken all your visits, then this wont happen.

I played at a small school and I understand the pressure on these kids.  They are brought in and treated like kings.  They are told how good they are and how perfect they are for the school's system and how there is a chance for them to come in and be the star from day 1.  The kids love the attention and the pampering and they get excited and want to commit right then.  Thats normal, but the problem is that when they go to the next school, the same process is repeated.

I get that its a normal thing for a kid to jump the gun and commit, only to take other visits later, but I wish that these kids had the will power to wait until ALL five of their visits have been taken and then commit to the school of their choice.  That way the possibility of them taking other visits is eliminated.  Its just frustrating to see this happen so often to all schools.  I get excited when we get a commitment, but I know it means absolutely nothing other than "you are one of the five finalists".  

[rogers-hog]

This is a very important decision for an 17 or 18 year old kid to make, and as we know if they come and
things don't work out then there are dire penaltys for transfering, so lets be a little more accepting of a kid
wanting to go to as many places to check them out and if it's on our dime think of the money they will make
for the university during their carreer and cut them some slack. 

[hog_fan]

I'm confident Hall is solid.

[hogfan11]

I hope he's solid..man he is a wall

[outlaw68]

whats the latest???

[jackflash]

Hey I would take more visits if I was him.  Like FL, CA , east coast this is a once in a life time thing. If he wants to be a Razorback none of this will make a difference. I don't blame the kid, just tell me to use better choices to where he visits

[RDR24BER0]

I totally agree. IS this simply being recruited on size? He is a monster but his strength bio is very suspect.

I have a question with Matt Hall.  He always seemed like a beast in size, but his stats were less than impressive.  How does a guy who's massive (he's listed at 6'10 and nearly 350 lbs I think) have only a bench of 315 lbs max and a squat of 400 lbs?  That's pretty pitiful for an O-lineman.  This is from his Rivals bio.  I think that might be a mistake, but jeez louise.  Also, I wouldn't be surprised to see him go to Ole Piss.  Nutty ain't a great coach, but Markuson is the best coach out of his whole staff.  There's a good reason that most of our players in the NFL play at linemen spots.  Think Shawn Andrews, Jason Peters, Bobbie Williams, etc.

[jgphillips3]

If your son was a recruit would you want him to only visit Arkanasas or commit to Arkansas, but still take his visits and be sure he is happy?  I think this kid is pretty solid, but I don't blame him for taking a free trip.  I blame John White for not putting some recruiting handcuffs on after taking off the Golden ones.  I still bet Hall will be a Hog.

[Beaverfever]

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[SpiritHog]

I'd like to know where TomHog or Davenport weighed in on this guy.

[Beaverfever]

I totally agree. IS this simply being recruited on size? He is a monster but his strength bio is very suspect.

I can't believe that he can only squat 400.  For a 350 lb guy that is VERY weak.

[razorbass]

I can't believe that he can only squat 400.  For a 350 lb guy that is VERY weak.

Well he's got a lot further to lift it up.   

[Amityvillehogger]

I can't believe that he can only squat 400.  For a 350 lb guy that is VERY weak.

It's very hard for taller guys to squat.  Trust me.   We have to go down a whole lot farther than shorter fellas.  I wouldn't put too much into the squat because he's so tall.

[Doggtown31LCC]

A friend of mine told me last night he heard Hall committed to Ole Miss yesterday, has anybody else heard this? i havn't seen it on rivals or in the newspaper.

[Hogndog36]

This is a nice opportunity for Matt to get out and see some Ole Miss chicks.  I knew in high school that if you wanted to see a slew of hot chicks in one place then you went down to Ole Miss for the weekend.  I can only imagine getting the weekend for free!  I see moderate danger but nothing to be overly concerned about.  That is just me though.

Mall Hall is 6'10 320. I doubt he can get a really hot chick. Besides look at how nutt has been really successfull as far as turning out NFL lineman, Andrews,Burlsworth,ugoh, Peters. Thats not a bad track record, Plus Luigs will be there too

[hawgsav1]

It's very hard for taller guys to squat.  Trust me.   We have to go down a whole lot farther than shorter fellas.  I wouldn't put too much into the squat because he's so tall.

Larry Allen benched nearly 700 lbs and squatted 900 lbs.  I know he's (Matt Hall) tall and in high school, but powerlifters like Jesse Marunde etc. can do 600 lbs easily.  To put those numbers in perspective, Tim Dial (2 star recruit from last year was only 6'2" 210 and could bench 350 and squat 475).  I'm 5'9, 170 lbs and I've pushed 375 lbs before (I only hit parallel, but then again I'm not a football player).  Squat wasn't the only issue.  I'm just saying the Rivals bio (IF IT"S TRUE) is making me wonder...

[bythelake]

Well, Matt is just an 18 year old kid.  You have to envision his potential and development into a very competetive offensive lineman in the next 2 years. 

 

[hawgsav1]

Well, Matt is just an 18 year old kid.  You have to envision his potential and development into a very competetive offensive lineman in the next 2 years. 

 

I agree he could be great.  My issue is more with whether Rivals is accurate or not.  I remember Matt Hall was ranked as one of the Rivals top 100  prospects for a while and I think he's still in the Rivals 250.   It doesn't make sense that a top 100 O-lineman wouldn't be able to bench his own bodyweight.  So (most likely) Rivals has it wrong, or Matt Hall is a delicate flower (which I doubt).

[mizzouman]

I just got word that Matt Hall will still be visiting Mizzou. Matt`s coach ,Jeff Holt, informs me that Matt is visiting Ole Miss, and will be visiting Mizzou in three weeks, which would be the weekend of the 25th.

[COCHISE]

I agree he could be great.  My issue is more with whether Rivals is accurate or not.  I remember Matt Hall was ranked as one of the Rivals top 100  prospects for a while and I think he's still in the Rivals 250.   It doesn't make sense that a top 100 O-lineman wouldn't be able to bench his own bodyweight.  So (most likely) Rivals has it wrong, or Matt Hall is a delicate flower (which I doubt).

A lot of Matt's info. and stats are not up to date, if you look at his pictures you can tell that matured A LOT over last winter.  I'm sure his current info. would be much more impressive.

[COCHISE]

For example, this is Matt spring/summer 2006



and this is Matt spring 2007



Like I said, I believe his up-to-date numbers would be a lot more impressive.

[justmaybe]

Matt Hall's size at 18 means he grew really fast and more than most and as a result it is going to take more time for him to put strength in those limbs. I doubt seriously that he has matured physically and guys do it at a different rate particularly tall guys and particularly offensive lineman. The squat and the bench are seriously indicators of strength but are also highly susceptible to the person body type. Hall has what you want in a lineman although I wonder if too much of it. Long arms relative to others from what I understand and at 6-10 even longer than almost everybody. It has already been said but his squat will suffer also but I think it has more to do with maturity than anything. And heck, 400 lbs is not bad for a high school kid. He is long and lean right now.

And you guys can say what you want but Markusen should be left alone. He puts lots of folks in the NFL and the guys can pass block pretty well also. They give very few sacks and it is not just becuase we are in max protect all the time.   

[hawgsav1]

Matt Hall's size at 18 means he grew really fast and more than most and as a result it is going to take more time for him to put strength in those limbs. I doubt seriously that he has matured physically and guys do it at a different rate particularly tall guys and particularly offensive lineman. The squat and the bench are seriously indicators of strength but are also highly susceptible to the person body type. Hall has what you want in a lineman although I wonder if too much of it. Long arms relative to others from what I understand and at 6-10 even longer than almost everybody. It has already been said but his squat will suffer also but I think it has more to do with maturity than anything. And heck, 400 lbs is not bad for a high school kid. He is long and lean right now.

And you guys can say what you want but Markusen should be left alone. He puts lots of folks in the NFL and the guys can pass block pretty well also. They give very few sacks and it is not just becuase we are in max protect all the time.   

I agree with you completely on Markuson.  Markuson was the best line-coach we had (Rocker coming in second).  I wished he'd stayed under Petrino cuz his guys were always ready to play. 

I understand that Matt Hall is just a kid, but what is particularly troublesome (if those stats are true, which I (hope) don't think they're accurate is that even other kids like safeties and linebacker prospects can put up that kind of weight.  Regardless of how fast you grew, you should at least be able to bench your own weight.  Again, I know I'm beating a dead horse, but I also think those stats are misleading.  A physical freak like Hall can probably do a lot more than what's listed on his rivals bio.

[hogwild1]

Sort of like when Petrino stole Tyler Wilson from the list of Tulsa commits?

Tyler decided to change. There was no gun to his head.