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espn's fan pickem..74% say mizzou?

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drivetimeporks

December 31, 2007, 05:34:26 pm
..amazedd by that...  i expect a good game ..amazed at how/why its lopsided in fans minds..?

ErieHog

December 31, 2007, 05:35:45 pm #1
One team was expected to be in the BCS, the other was a mid-level competitor in their conference.

I'm a little surprised that there isn't a greater disparity than that.
No cause, ever, in the history of all mankind, has produced more cold-blooded tyrants, more slaughtered innocents, and more orphans than socialism with power. It surpassed, exponentially, all other systems of production in turning out the dead. The bodies are all around us. And here is the problem: No one talks about them. No one honors them. No one does penance for them. No one has committed suicide for having been an apologist for those who did this to them. No one pays for them. No one is hunted down to account for them. It is exactly what Solzhenitsyn foresaw in The Gulag Archipelago: "No, no one would have to answer. No one would be looked into." Until that happens, there is no "after socialism."
 

RhodeHog

December 31, 2007, 05:36:02 pm #2
Most people make their picks based on ranking.  It really doesn't surprise me at all, and I actually like it.  Arkansas does best when they're the underdog it seems.  :)

drivetimeporks

December 31, 2007, 05:36:43 pm #3
Quote from: ErieHog on December 31, 2007, 05:35:45 pm
One team was expected to be in the BCS, the other was a mid-level competitor in their conference.

I'm a little surprised that there isn't a greater disparity than that.

er, are u high? kansas is big 12 north..whoop de do.. big 12 north  = mid level sec.. like i said, a fair game

want2be

December 31, 2007, 05:36:48 pm #4
 

               Coaching change is probably the biggest reason

                 Mizzu has been in the Top 10 for a while

drivetimeporks

December 31, 2007, 05:38:22 pm #5
Quote from: want2be on December 31, 2007, 05:36:48 pm


               Coaching change is probably the biggest reason

                 Mizzu has been in the Top 10 for a while

i guess id buy the "arkansas  sucks in bowl games" argument  ... which, as irecall, we do seem to lose them every darn time!..

ErieHog

December 31, 2007, 05:41:26 pm #6
Quote from: drivetimeporks on December 31, 2007, 05:36:43 pm
er, are u high? kansas is big 12 north..whoop de do.. big 12 north  = mid level sec.. like i said, a fair game

No, and I can type a comprehensible sentence to boot.    The world at large could give a rat's @ss about which team is in the SEC;  one of the teams involved in the game was in the National Title discussion up until the last game of Championship Weekend, and it wasn't Arkansas.   

I expected somewhere closer to 80-20 against Arkansas.

No cause, ever, in the history of all mankind, has produced more cold-blooded tyrants, more slaughtered innocents, and more orphans than socialism with power. It surpassed, exponentially, all other systems of production in turning out the dead. The bodies are all around us. And here is the problem: No one talks about them. No one honors them. No one does penance for them. No one has committed suicide for having been an apologist for those who did this to them. No one pays for them. No one is hunted down to account for them. It is exactly what Solzhenitsyn foresaw in The Gulag Archipelago: "No, no one would have to answer. No one would be looked into." Until that happens, there is no "after socialism."

Tejano Jawg

December 31, 2007, 05:42:09 pm #7
Personally, I feel fine that three-quarters of the free world picked Mizzou.
Between McAfee being obnoxious and Corso decomposing before our eyes I can't even watch GameDay anymore. —Torqued Pork

Snouty

December 31, 2007, 05:44:29 pm #8
I imagine 75-80% of folks would have picked LSU over Arkansas this year, and I hate to admit it, but I'm part of the 75-80%.   I am picking Arkansas tomorrow, however.

drivetimeporks

December 31, 2007, 05:44:55 pm #9
Quote from: ErieHog on December 31, 2007, 05:41:26 pm
No, and I can type a comprehensible sentence to boot.    The world at large could give a rat's @ss about which team is in the SEC;  one of the teams involved in the game was in the National Title discussion up until the last game of Championship Weekend, and it wasn't Arkansas.   

I expected somewhere closer to 80-20 against Arkansas.

whatever  English Professor...  game can go  either way... seems so far it really depends on  what team actually cares... oh and thanks for the grammar lesson d**ckweed


bobetty

December 31, 2007, 05:45:21 pm #10
Maybe they don't realize that perennial Bowl loser Houston Nutt is no longer coaching the team?

ErieHog

December 31, 2007, 05:46:32 pm #11
Quote from: drivetimeporks on December 31, 2007, 05:44:55 pm


Tsk.   What happens in the game is irrelevant to the perceptions you seem so shocked by.  The game can certainly go either way, but that is not the public perception.
No cause, ever, in the history of all mankind, has produced more cold-blooded tyrants, more slaughtered innocents, and more orphans than socialism with power. It surpassed, exponentially, all other systems of production in turning out the dead. The bodies are all around us. And here is the problem: No one talks about them. No one honors them. No one does penance for them. No one has committed suicide for having been an apologist for those who did this to them. No one pays for them. No one is hunted down to account for them. It is exactly what Solzhenitsyn foresaw in The Gulag Archipelago: "No, no one would have to answer. No one would be looked into." Until that happens, there is no "after socialism."

drivetimeporks

December 31, 2007, 05:48:24 pm #12
Quote from: ErieHog on December 31, 2007, 05:46:32 pm
Tsk.   What happens in the game is irrelevant to the perceptions you seem so shocked by.  The game can certainly go either way, but that is not the public perception.


ibet 4 bucks you live with your mother and  have a light saber tucked neatly away  under your bed..
 

ErieHog

December 31, 2007, 05:49:51 pm #13
Quote from: drivetimeporks on December 31, 2007, 05:48:24 pm
ibet 4 bucks you live with your mother and  have a light saber tucked neatly away  under your bed..

Grow up.
No cause, ever, in the history of all mankind, has produced more cold-blooded tyrants, more slaughtered innocents, and more orphans than socialism with power. It surpassed, exponentially, all other systems of production in turning out the dead. The bodies are all around us. And here is the problem: No one talks about them. No one honors them. No one does penance for them. No one has committed suicide for having been an apologist for those who did this to them. No one pays for them. No one is hunted down to account for them. It is exactly what Solzhenitsyn foresaw in The Gulag Archipelago: "No, no one would have to answer. No one would be looked into." Until that happens, there is no "after socialism."

RhodeHog

December 31, 2007, 05:50:41 pm #14
Quote from: drivetimeporks on December 31, 2007, 05:48:24 pm
ibet 4 bucks you live with your mother and  have a light saber tucked neatly away  under your bed..

I'm not trying to get in on this because I don't have a dog in this fight, but most people don't call out mods on the public boards.

want2be

December 31, 2007, 05:53:53 pm #15


Another major reason is that allot of people believe in the odds makers who
           have had Mizzu favored by at least 3 points.

ErieHog

December 31, 2007, 05:55:40 pm #16
Quote from: want2be on December 31, 2007, 05:53:53 pm

Another major reason is that allot of people believe in the odds makers who
           have had Mizzu favored by at least 3 points.

Last line I saw had moved it to 4, but that does weigh into things.   Throw in Arkansas looking horrible in most of it's TV exposure this year (Alabama, Kentucky, Auburn games,  with only the LSU game and the South Carolina game offering any reprieve),  and it is no surprise whatsoever that the favorite in this game is widely favored by the viewing audience.
No cause, ever, in the history of all mankind, has produced more cold-blooded tyrants, more slaughtered innocents, and more orphans than socialism with power. It surpassed, exponentially, all other systems of production in turning out the dead. The bodies are all around us. And here is the problem: No one talks about them. No one honors them. No one does penance for them. No one has committed suicide for having been an apologist for those who did this to them. No one pays for them. No one is hunted down to account for them. It is exactly what Solzhenitsyn foresaw in The Gulag Archipelago: "No, no one would have to answer. No one would be looked into." Until that happens, there is no "after socialism."

RhodeHog

December 31, 2007, 05:56:40 pm #17
Quote from: want2be on December 31, 2007, 05:53:53 pm

Another major reason is that allot of people believe in the odds makers who
           have had Mizzu favored by at least 3 points.

So we have:

Missouri is ranked higher and us and was a National Championship contender before their last regular season game.
We have an interim head coach.
Mizzou is favored by Vegas in the point spread.
Arkansas doesn't have a stellar bowl record the last few years.

I would say 74% is about right.

drivetimeporks

December 31, 2007, 05:58:25 pm #18
Quote from: RhodeHog on December 31, 2007, 05:50:41 pm
I'm not trying to get in on this because I don't have a dog in this fight, but most people don't call out mods on the public boards.

i agree, but when the mod is being a prick,  one should call them on it...

ErieHog

December 31, 2007, 05:59:55 pm #19
Quote from: drivetimeporks on December 31, 2007, 05:58:25 pm
i agree, but when the mod is being a prick,  one should call them on it...

Tsk.  I didn't start it.   You'll get a modicum of respect for your opinions when you begin showing it to others.  Until then, you'll be treated like a troll.
No cause, ever, in the history of all mankind, has produced more cold-blooded tyrants, more slaughtered innocents, and more orphans than socialism with power. It surpassed, exponentially, all other systems of production in turning out the dead. The bodies are all around us. And here is the problem: No one talks about them. No one honors them. No one does penance for them. No one has committed suicide for having been an apologist for those who did this to them. No one pays for them. No one is hunted down to account for them. It is exactly what Solzhenitsyn foresaw in The Gulag Archipelago: "No, no one would have to answer. No one would be looked into." Until that happens, there is no "after socialism."

RhodeHog

December 31, 2007, 06:00:13 pm #20
Quote from: drivetimeporks on December 31, 2007, 05:58:25 pm
i agree, but when the mod is being a prick,  one should call them on it...

OK...just thought I'd give you fair warning.  I've seen ones banned for less.  Just sayin'.  :)

drivetimeporks

December 31, 2007, 06:01:35 pm #21
..and i appreciate it. ive done worse ..  i ASSUME this isnt like say saudi arabia and they wont drive down here and cut off my hands for it.. anyway, happy new year to all...

Luke STYwalker

December 31, 2007, 06:06:02 pm #22
Quote from: drivetimeporks on December 31, 2007, 05:58:25 pm
i agree, but when the mod is being a prick,  one should call them on it...

drivetime, I think you need a little more time on here before, you go after a respected mod..

I do agree, I don't see how mizzou gets so much respect.. They only played 2 "for real" games all year long and they lost them both.. and no Kansas does not count..

But Erie is right, public votes based on rankings.. Most don't dig deep enough to know the facts..

ErieHog

December 31, 2007, 06:09:41 pm #23
Quote from: Luke STYwalker on December 31, 2007, 06:06:02 pm
drivetime, I think you need a little more time on here before, you go after a respected mod..

I do agree, I don't see how mizzou gets so much respect.. They only played 2 "for real" games all year long and they lost them both.. and no Kansas does not count..

But Erie is right, public votes based on rankings.. Most don't dig deep enough to know the facts..

Think of the proportion of the sporting populace that are bandwagon fans as it is;  they're never going to look beyond the weekend mentions on College Gameday of Missouri, when comparing the two teams.
No cause, ever, in the history of all mankind, has produced more cold-blooded tyrants, more slaughtered innocents, and more orphans than socialism with power. It surpassed, exponentially, all other systems of production in turning out the dead. The bodies are all around us. And here is the problem: No one talks about them. No one honors them. No one does penance for them. No one has committed suicide for having been an apologist for those who did this to them. No one pays for them. No one is hunted down to account for them. It is exactly what Solzhenitsyn foresaw in The Gulag Archipelago: "No, no one would have to answer. No one would be looked into." Until that happens, there is no "after socialism."
 

Luke STYwalker

December 31, 2007, 06:11:11 pm #24
you are so right..

drivetimeporks

December 31, 2007, 06:14:40 pm #25
Quote from: Luke STYwalker on December 31, 2007, 06:06:02 pm
drivetime, I think you need a little more time on here before, you go after a respected mod..

I do agree, I don't see how mizzou gets so much respect.. They only played 2 "for real" games all year long and they lost them both.. and no Kansas does not count..

But Erie is right, public votes based on rankings.. Most don't dig deep enough to know the facts..

i  dont get the "respect the mods" thingy..  ok yeah they post more than i do... have they seen more pig games than me? not in football.. do they care more than me? probably so... have they been to more pig games than i? maybe...

so what? i was at the PB convention center when we beat UNC.... i went to an eddie sutton basketball camp.further, i know Paul Eels ISNT a saint... Billy Ray smith is the greatest razorback ever... hmmm..oh and i have  a basketball autographed by the scott hastings EUGENE NASH  era team... ( in mint condition)..so please,  dont  chastize my pig credentials..so, IF i misspoke?  mea culpa otherwise, bah humbug

drivetimeporks

December 31, 2007, 06:41:39 pm #26
gentlemen, in light of this discussion, please delete my account. Go Horns!

Shuga Town HEMI

December 31, 2007, 06:58:46 pm #27
God guys, give me a break with the Mod talk. Why should you fear a Mod? If you get banned for calling out a mod, then its a ** board and I wouldn't want to be there in the first place. Mod's have a job and it isn't to ban people that make fun of them, if they do, then the board is run by 12 year olds. Other board I frequent, you don't even know who a mod is unless there is a loser that comes in and spams the board or something like that. You treat them like you would any other poster, because really, thats all they are.

AND5_RAZORBACK

December 31, 2007, 07:02:28 pm #28
Remember the good old days of the hugger/darksider debate?

Shuga Town HEMI

December 31, 2007, 07:09:38 pm #29
Yeah...but its the internet...does Free Speech not apply? Some people are ridiculous. I can understand people acting immature and getting banned, but you shouldn't be banned for expressing your opinion about anyone.

Luke STYwalker

December 31, 2007, 07:11:58 pm #30
Quote from: Shuga Town HEMI on December 31, 2007, 06:58:46 pm
God guys, give me a break with the Mod talk. Why should you fear a Mod? If you get banned for calling out a mod, then its a crapty board and I wouldn't want to be there in the first place. Mod's have a job and it isn't to ban people that make fun of them, if they do, then the board is run by 12 year olds. Other board I frequent, you don't even know who a mod is unless there is a loser that comes in and spams the board or something like that. You treat them like you would any other poster, because really, thats all they are.


another newbie..

Luke STYwalker

December 31, 2007, 07:13:47 pm #31
I don't respect Eriehog because he's a mod as much as I respect how long he's been here and his posts don't attack, they inform..

tiber

December 31, 2007, 07:19:38 pm #32
Anyway... back on topic.

What's even more amazing about ESPN's polls -- 26% of people like Arkansas' chances against Missouri... but a full 30% think Hawaii will beat Georgia.

I watched Hawaii pull out a nail-biter against San Jose State.  I think they're exciting, but I don't like their chances.

Luke STYwalker

December 31, 2007, 07:20:58 pm #33
I fully expect Georgia to rip Hawaii a new one..

dakpowers

December 31, 2007, 07:23:03 pm #34 Last Edit: December 31, 2007, 07:25:47 pm by dakpowers
Quote from: drivetimeporks on December 31, 2007, 05:58:25 pm
i agree, but when the mod is being a prick,  one should call them on it...
er, r u hi lol

du u have light sabar under ur bed lawel

Erie is not the one who needs to grow up.

Quote from: Shuga Town HEMI on December 31, 2007, 07:09:38 pm
Yeah...but its the internet...does Free Speech not apply? Some people are ridiculous. I can understand people acting immature and getting banned, but you shouldn't be banned for expressing your opinion about anyone.
Free speech does not apply if you are in a forum paid by other people. If you come into my house and started calling me names and immaturely refuting opinions you may have, I'd kick you out, too.

You are in someone else's house here. Play by their rules, or you're out. Why is this so difficult for some to comprehend?

ThisLittlePiggie

December 31, 2007, 07:31:10 pm #35
Quote from: RhodeHog on December 31, 2007, 05:56:40 pm
So we have:


Arkansas doesn't have a stellar bowl record the last few years.

.

You can remove the above reason. Missouri doesn't even have a bowl record over the last few years. Except the one they lost...to a Houston Nutt coached Arkansas.

jimmur74

December 31, 2007, 08:37:27 pm #36


     If the coaching change is a factor in predicting the cotton bowl, lets just say that Reggie as head coach and Campbell as DC is a GREAT improvement over the regular season.  Hogs by 17, 38-21!!!!!!!!

lawton04

December 31, 2007, 09:36:30 pm #37
arkansas   45- missouri 14

ESPN  eats crow

Shuga Town HEMI

December 31, 2007, 09:48:42 pm #38
Quote from: Luke STYwalker on December 31, 2007, 07:11:58 pm

another newbie..



Maybe to posting as much as lately, but when I had a different name last year and was just interested in what other fans thought, there wasn't a post on the board really worth my input. This year with the coaching situation, there was definitely a reason for me to start posting. It was an interesting discussion.

Quote from: dakpowers on December 31, 2007, 07:23:03 pm
Free speech does not apply if you are in a forum paid by other people. If you come into my house and started calling me names and immaturely refuting opinions you may have, I'd kick you out, too.

You are in someone else's house here. Play by their rules, or you're out. Why is this so difficult for some to comprehend?

The other forum's I go to aren't paid for by someone. Give me a break dude, there are thousands of people on here. A house and the internet are completely different and if you can't tell that, you are an idiot. You might have one person at your house and they wouldn't be there unless they were friends with you or you invited them.

This is a message board easily found by a quick google search of "razorback forums". I don't think its that easy to enter your house is it? This place isn't ran by one person and just because you call out a mod who was disrespecting you shouldn't result in a banning. THAT IS CHILDISH. They could argue and make their point, or they could be a crybaby and ban and delete all their posts so they don't look bad. This isn't a popularity contest, this is about fans of a football coming together and expressing their opinion.

I wouldn't go into someones house and disrespect their opinion to their face, especially if they welcomed me into their home. That's a different story from a message board on a internet, and obviously you don't know that.


The other boards I go to, you could start a thread with "(insert admins name here) sucks d.i.c.k" and the admin wouldn't ban you. More than likely it was a joke and the people can take it. Everyone here is so up tight and is quick to silence someone they don't agree with.


I agree, I might not have been here when people were being banned for ignorant reasons(darksiders vs. huggers? maybe i dont know), but I feel everyone should be able to express their opinion, especially on a message board, especially on the internet, which can be accessed by anyone world wide.

Open up, don't be so quick to judge, and for god's sake, let go of your EGO(yeah, your no better than Nutt, the person you and I hate). If I get banned, that's fine with me, like I said earlier, if you get banned for your opinion, it ain't worth being there in the first place. Especially when your there for the same reason as everyone else, the mother [CENSORED] Razorbacks!

3kgthog

December 31, 2007, 09:49:12 pm #39
We've lost 11 of our last 13 bowl games. Now tell me you feel confident picking the Hogs.

Shuga Town HEMI

December 31, 2007, 09:49:57 pm #40
Quote from: 3kgthog on December 31, 2007, 09:49:12 pm
We've lost 11 of our last 13 bowl games. Now tell me you feel confident picking the Hogs.

And how many of those did Nutt coach?

ErieHog

December 31, 2007, 09:54:58 pm #41
Quote from: Shuga Town HEMI on December 31, 2007, 09:49:57 pm
And how many of those did Nutt coach?

7 of 'em.  And he won both of the wins in that time-frame.
No cause, ever, in the history of all mankind, has produced more cold-blooded tyrants, more slaughtered innocents, and more orphans than socialism with power. It surpassed, exponentially, all other systems of production in turning out the dead. The bodies are all around us. And here is the problem: No one talks about them. No one honors them. No one does penance for them. No one has committed suicide for having been an apologist for those who did this to them. No one pays for them. No one is hunted down to account for them. It is exactly what Solzhenitsyn foresaw in The Gulag Archipelago: "No, no one would have to answer. No one would be looked into." Until that happens, there is no "after socialism."

Luke STYwalker

December 31, 2007, 09:57:16 pm #42
Quote from: Shuga Town HEMI on December 31, 2007, 09:48:42 pm
Maybe to posting as much as lately, but when I had a different name last year and was just interested in what other fans thought, there wasn't a post on the board really worth my input. This year with the coaching situation, there was definitely a reason for me to start posting. It was an interesting discussion.

The other forum's I go to aren't paid for by someone. Give me a break dude, there are thousands of people on here. A house and the internet are completely different and if you can't tell that, you are an idiot. You might have one person at your house and they wouldn't be there unless they were friends with you or you invited them.

This is a message board easily found by a quick google search of "razorback forums". I don't think its that easy to enter your house is it? This place isn't ran by one person and just because you call out a mod who was disrespecting you shouldn't result in a banning. THAT IS CHILDISH. They could argue and make their point, or they could be a crybaby and ban and delete all their posts so they don't look bad. This isn't a popularity contest, this is about fans of a football coming together and expressing their opinion.

I wouldn't go into someones house and disrespect their opinion to their face, especially if they welcomed me into their home. That's a different story from a message board on a internet, and obviously you don't know that.


The other boards I go to, you could start a thread with "(insert admins name here) sucks d.i.c.k" and the admin wouldn't ban you. More than likely it was a joke and the people can take it. Everyone here is so up tight and is quick to silence someone they don't agree with.


I agree, I might not have been here when people were being banned for ignorant reasons(darksiders vs. huggers? maybe i dont know), but I feel everyone should be able to express their opinion, especially on a message board, especially on the internet, which can be accessed by anyone world wide.

Open up, don't be so quick to judge, and for god's sake, let go of your EGO(yeah, your no better than Nutt, the person you and I hate). If I get banned, that's fine with me, like I said earlier, if you get banned for your opinion, it ain't worth being there in the first place. Especially when your there for the same reason as everyone else, the mother [CENSORED] Razorbacks!




I don't think the problem is your opinion being different, it's rediculous long rant's like that one..

Shuga Town HEMI

December 31, 2007, 09:58:34 pm #43
Which means he lost 5 and didn't even make for 3 years. So the 3 years he didn't make it are worse than the losses.

Shuga Town HEMI

December 31, 2007, 10:02:37 pm #44
Quote from: Luke STYwalker on December 31, 2007, 09:57:16 pm

I don't think the problem is your opinion being different, it's rediculous long rant's like that one..

Do all my post's need to be one sentence long so you can understand them? Or so you won't lose your attention span? I have no quarrel with the mods or the guy arguing with them in the first place, but I don't agree with unfair treatment. Or respecting someone who has not earned my respect. Do you respect the President? Do you respect the cops that beat people for no reason? Your supposed too....

Just because I can spell and make complete sentences, some of which might evolve into paragraphs. Some of which might take you 2 minutes to read...you don't have to hate me, do ya?

Luke STYwalker

December 31, 2007, 10:05:53 pm #45
I am loving ruffling your feathers newbie..

ErieHog

December 31, 2007, 10:06:04 pm #46
Quote from: Shuga Town HEMI on December 31, 2007, 09:58:34 pm
Which means he lost 5 and didn't even make for 3 years. So the 3 years he didn't make it are worse than the losses.
Correction, 8 games.   2-6 as a bowl coach, vs the 0-5 before him. (1 Ford, 4 Hatfield)
No cause, ever, in the history of all mankind, has produced more cold-blooded tyrants, more slaughtered innocents, and more orphans than socialism with power. It surpassed, exponentially, all other systems of production in turning out the dead. The bodies are all around us. And here is the problem: No one talks about them. No one honors them. No one does penance for them. No one has committed suicide for having been an apologist for those who did this to them. No one pays for them. No one is hunted down to account for them. It is exactly what Solzhenitsyn foresaw in The Gulag Archipelago: "No, no one would have to answer. No one would be looked into." Until that happens, there is no "after socialism."

dakpowers

December 31, 2007, 10:11:01 pm #47
Quote from: Shuga Town HEMI on December 31, 2007, 10:02:37 pm
Do all my post's need to be one sentence long so you can understand them? Or so you won't lose your attention span? I have no quarrel with the mods or the guy arguing with them in the first place, but I don't agree with unfair treatment. Or respecting someone who has not earned my respect. Do you respect the President? Do you respect the cops that beat people for no reason? Your supposed too....

Just because I can spell and make complete sentences, some of which might evolve into paragraphs. Some of which might take you 2 minutes to read...you don't have to hate me, do ya?


All Internet forums are paid for by someone. Bandwidth is not free. Hogville depends on advertising in order to pay its hosting bills. The administrators of this site have to pay that bill, otherwise Hogville goes kaput. This seems to be a new concept to some people, and as an administrator of my own website, I chide people who don't understand.

You don't have to respect the moderators or administrators here. But you do have to adhere by the rules they've made, otherwise you don't post here. Because of this, it is not a free speech society. If you say something or act out of accordance with the rules here, they will remove your posting privileges.

I don't mean to backseat moderate here, this is just a topic that really gets on my nerves.

Shuga Town HEMI

December 31, 2007, 10:17:00 pm #48
Quote from: dakpowers on December 31, 2007, 10:11:01 pm
All Internet forums are paid for by someone. Bandwidth is not free. Hogville depends on advertising in order to pay its hosting bills. The administrators of this site have to pay that bill, otherwise Hogville goes kaput. This seems to be a new concept to some people, and as an administrator of my own website, I chide people who don't understand.

You don't have to respect the moderators or administrators here. But you do have to adhere by the rules they've made, otherwise you don't post here. Because of this, it is not a free speech society. If you say something or act out of accordance with the rules here, they will remove your posting privileges.

I don't mean to backseat moderate here, this is just a topic that really gets on my nerves.

I go to a forum with no advertisers, paid for by the owner of the board. When you don't treat your members like trash, they might donate. The Admin's have to pay the bills, but the mods dont. I'm not new to the internet buddy, I've probably been on it way before you and was making websites in HTML on angelfire when you were still writing letters through snail mail. Have you never been to http://maddox.xmission.com/ ? That guy has way more hits than this website in a year than this website will get in its lifetime, and he has never had a banner or advertisement on his website. I don't even think you CAN donate to him.

I'm not agreeing with breaking the rules, obviously no one understands that. I just don't think you should be banned for disagreeing with a mod, when it wouldn't happen if you disagreed with a regular member of this forum.

Luke STYwalker

December 31, 2007, 10:25:18 pm #49
When was it you were treated like trash?
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