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Had 6 receptions for 71 yards with a long catch of 26 yards and 1 TD tonight in New England's 23-22 win over Chicago tonight.  Trey Flowers 3 tackles and 0.5 sacks.  Alex Collins 6 carries for 13 yards with a long run of 7 yards and 1 reception for 8 yards in Seattle"s lose to Minnesota 18-11.  Didn't see any stats on Jarius Wright.
Martrell Spaight tied with 3 others with 4 tackles, 2 solos.  The 4 players that had 4 total tackles were the leaders in tackles in Washington's 22-18 win over New York Jets.  Hunter Henry 1 catch for 7 yards and Darius Philon 1 solo tackle in San Diego's 19-3 win over Arizona.

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Thanks for bringing AJD back into our consciousness. I forgot what happened to him...was he hurt entering pro camp a couple years ago? Man, when he made the switch to TE for us, he was a stud. I was a huge fan. Hope he continues to make some noise up there.
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Quote from: Tejano Jawg on August 22, 2016, 11:27:05 pm
Thanks for bringing AJD back into our consciousness. I forgot what happened to him...was he hurt entering pro camp a couple years ago? Man, when he made the switch to TE for us, he was a stud. I was a huge fan. Hope he continues to make some noise up there.

I've watched Pats games to see he and Flowers and both have been very good and I would argue great in AJ's case. Dude looks NFL starter quality to me. No way Belichick lets him go.
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Quote from: Tejano Jawg on August 22, 2016, 11:27:05 pm
Thanks for bringing AJD back into our consciousness. I forgot what happened to him...was he hurt entering pro camp a couple years ago? Man, when he made the switch to TE for us, he was a stud. I was a huge fan. Hope he continues to make some noise up there.

Wasn't a couple years ago, but just one year ago, and yes, don't remember the injury, but he pretty much missed the whole preseason and took a redshirt year on the practice squad so to speak.

This is only his second year in the NFL and to be honest, only his third year playing TE overall.
Quote from: PorkSoda on May 05, 2016, 09:24:05 pm
damn I thought it was only a color, didn't realize it was named after a liqueur. leave it to benny to make me research the history of chartreuse

bennyl08

Thought this would be a fun comparison

event   HH      AJD
       6'4 7/8"  6'3 3/4"
           250      255
40      4.68      4.72
20 split 2.74     2.72
10 split  1.60   1.68
bench   21(13)  n/a(15)  parenthesis indicate combine, all others are pro day #'s
vert      31.5"   n/a
broad   9'5"     n/a
20 yd   4.41    4.51
3cone  7.16    6.99

Derby is thicker than Henry, though not stronger in the bench. Their overall forty times are almost the same, though Henry has a significantly faster start, implying Derby has a higher top end speed. No idea what Derby's jumping #'s are. Henry is better able to stop and change direction as indicated by the 20 yd shuttle. This makes sense due to his faster 10 yard split and thus quicker acceleration. However, Derby has significantly more fluid hips allowing him to smoke Henry in the 3-cone drill. For comparison...

        Gates   Gronk   Jimmy    Kelce   Bennett   Witten   Barnidge    Clay         Gonzalez   Hernandez   Olson 
        n/a     6'6 264 6'6 260  6'5 255   6'6 259    n/a    6'5.5" 243  6'3 245       n/a           6'2 245      6'6 254
                  4.68      4.56       4.61    4.68                   4.65        4.73(4.70)                    4.64          4.55
                  2.68      2.66       2.72    2.67                   2.62        2.74(2.64)                     2.71         2.66
                  1.58      1.58       1.61    1.53                   1.53        1.67(1.64)                     1.65          1.62
                   n/a       15          n/a     18                        22         18(20)                           30            23
                 33.5"       38.5"    25"       34"                     31"         33.5(35)                       33"           35.5(37.5)
                  9'11"      10'       10'4"    9'10"                   9'9"        9'10(9'6)                       9'3"          9'6" (9'11")
                 4.47     4.45(4.39) 4.42   4.53                    4.23       4.15(4.32)                     4.18         4.48 (4.41)
                 7.18         6.90    7.09     7.64                    6.92       7.07(7.02)                     6.83         7.04
               (pro day) (combine)  (pd)  (cmb)                  (cmb)     (cmb)(pd)                       pd           cmb (pd)

Where do our guys stack up? A bit on the shorter end, but with good weight for their size. 40 times are comparable. 20 yard splits are quite a bit slow, as are the 10 yard splits. Bench press is pretty good. On the smaller size for vertical and more so on the broad, but not too small. Pretty good on the 20 yard shuttle. Henry is a bit slow on the 3-cone but not much more than Gronk was. Overall, Barnidge and Graham are just absolutely freakishly athletic.
Quote from: PorkSoda on May 05, 2016, 09:24:05 pm
damn I thought it was only a color, didn't realize it was named after a liqueur. leave it to benny to make me research the history of chartreuse

SooiecidetillNuttgone

Quote from: bennyl08 on August 23, 2016, 12:39:12 am
Thought this would be a fun comparison

event   HH      AJD
       6'4 7/8"  6'3 3/4"
           250      255
40      4.68      4.72
20 split 2.74     2.72
10 split  1.60   1.68
bench   21(13)  n/a(15)  parenthesis indicate combine, all others are pro day #'s
vert      31.5"   n/a
broad   9'5"     n/a
20 yd   4.41    4.51
3cone  7.16    6.99

Derby is thicker than Henry, though not stronger in the bench. Their overall forty times are almost the same, though Henry has a significantly faster start, implying Derby has a higher top end speed. No idea what Derby's jumping #'s are. Henry is better able to stop and change direction as indicated by the 20 yd shuttle. This makes sense due to his faster 10 yard split and thus quicker acceleration. However, Derby has significantly more fluid hips allowing him to smoke Henry in the 3-cone drill. For comparison...

        Gates   Gronk   Jimmy    Kelce   Bennett   Witten   Barnidge    Clay         Gonzalez   Hernandez   Olson 
        n/a     6'6 264 6'6 260  6'5 255   6'6 259    n/a    6'5.5" 243  6'3 245       n/a           6'2 245      6'6 254
                  4.68      4.56       4.61    4.68                   4.65        4.73(4.70)                    4.64          4.55
                  2.68      2.66       2.72    2.67                   2.62        2.74(2.64)                     2.71         2.66
                  1.58      1.58       1.61    1.53                   1.53        1.67(1.64)                     1.65          1.62
                   n/a       15          n/a     18                        22         18(20)                           30            23
                 33.5"       38.5"    25"       34"                     31"         33.5(35)                       33"           35.5(37.5)
                  9'11"      10'       10'4"    9'10"                   9'9"        9'10(9'6)                       9'3"          9'6" (9'11")
                 4.47     4.45(4.39) 4.42   4.53                    4.23       4.15(4.32)                     4.18         4.48 (4.41)
                 7.18         6.90    7.09     7.64                    6.92       7.07(7.02)                     6.83         7.04
               (pro day) (combine)  (pd)  (cmb)                  (cmb)     (cmb)(pd)                       pd           cmb (pd)

Where do our guys stack up? A bit on the shorter end, but with good weight for their size. 40 times are comparable. 20 yard splits are quite a bit slow, as are the 10 yard splits. Bench press is pretty good. On the smaller size for vertical and more so on the broad, but not too small. Pretty good on the 20 yard shuttle. Henry is a bit slow on the 3-cone but not much more than Gronk was. Overall, Barnidge and Graham are just absolutely freakishly athletic.

Arghhh!

I so very much wish there was an easy way to build tables on here.

Your Gronk comparisons section is basically unreadable.
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Quote from: hawginbigd1 on October 13, 2016, 11:48:33 am
So everyone one of the nationalized incidents were justified? There is no race problems with policing? If that is what you believe.....well bless your heart, it must be hard going through life with the obstacles you must have to overcome. Do they send a bus to come pick you up?

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AJ was a good kid and I am proud to see him doing well in the Pros.
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Quote from: bennyl08 on August 23, 2016, 12:00:26 am
Wasn't a couple years ago, but just one year ago, and yes, don't remember the injury, but he pretty much missed the whole preseason and took a redshirt year on the practice squad so to speak.

This is only his second year in the NFL and to be honest, only his third year playing TE overall.

That's right...thanks. It's all coming back to me now. I was at the Bama game year before last (our 1 pt loss), when AJ had that great catch and run for the TD. Just seems longer ago.
Between McAfee being obnoxious and Corso decomposing before our eyes I can't even watch GameDay anymore. —Torqued Pork

DeltaBoy

Quote from: Tejano Jawg on August 23, 2016, 09:44:32 am
That's right...thanks. It's all coming back to me now. I was at the Bama game year before last (our 1 pt loss), when AJ had that great catch and run for the TD. Just seems longer ago.

Yep it does to me too.
If the South should lose, it means that the history of the heroic struggle will be written by the enemy, that our youth will be trained by Northern school teachers, will be impressed by all of the influences of history and education to regard our gallant dead as traitors and our maimed veterans as fit subjects for derision.
-- Major General Patrick Cleburne
The Confederacy had no better soldiers
than the Arkansans--fearless, brave, and oftentimes courageous beyond
prudence. Dickart History of Kershaws Brigade.

bennyl08

Quote from: SooiecidetillNuttgone on August 23, 2016, 05:22:47 am
Arghhh!

I so very much wish there was an easy way to build tables on here.

Your Gronk comparisons section is basically unreadable.

Yeah, best I can say is stretch the size of your browser.
Quote from: PorkSoda on May 05, 2016, 09:24:05 pm
damn I thought it was only a color, didn't realize it was named after a liqueur. leave it to benny to make me research the history of chartreuse

 

a0ashle

Quote from: SooiecidetillNuttgone on August 23, 2016, 05:22:47 am
Arghhh!

I so very much wish there was an easy way to build tables on here.

Your Gronk comparisons section is basically unreadable.

I found this site that helps...

http://www.teamopolis.com/tools/bbcode-table-generator.aspx

Just a sample, its a pain to transcribe from a post, but if the OP with data used it to begin it maybe the same amount of work.



   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
eventHH      AJD
-6'4 7/8" 6'3 3/4"
-250255
404.684.72
20 split2.742.72
10 split1.601.68
bench21(13)n/a(15)
vert31.5"n/a
broad9'5"n/a
20 yd4.414.51
3cone7.166.99

SooiecidetillNuttgone

Quote from: bennyl08 on August 24, 2016, 10:51:16 am
Yeah, best I can say is stretch the size of your browser.

Doesn't work in my android tablet.  Everything just gets bigger.

Quote from: a0ashle on August 24, 2016, 11:11:46 am
I found this site that helps...

http://www.teamopolis.com/tools/bbcode-table-generator.aspx

Just a sample, its a pain to transcribe from a post, but if the OP with data used it to begin it maybe the same amount of work.



   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
eventHH      AJD
-6'4 7/8" 6'3 3/4"
-250255
404.684.72
20 split2.742.72
10 split1.601.68
bench21(13)n/a(15)
vert31.5"n/a
broad9'5"n/a
20 yd4.414.51
3cone7.166.99


Cool.
Thanks for the tip.
His response to me:
Quote from: hawginbigd1 on October 13, 2016, 11:48:33 am
So everyone one of the nationalized incidents were justified? There is no race problems with policing? If that is what you believe.....well bless your heart, it must be hard going through life with the obstacles you must have to overcome. Do they send a bus to come pick you up?

Cambridge Hog

He's going to knock Clay Harbor off the roster.

Boss Hog in the Arkansas

Quote from: Dr. Starcs on August 23, 2016, 08:30:57 am
No matter what happens in his football career, he still gets to go home to Calli Berna.

Winning.
I had no idea they were together, much less married. You're right, he's a winner no matter what happens on the field!
That's right, you don't want to be the man to replace the man.  You want to be the man to replace Rory Segrest.