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Medic821

Heard rumors today if Cincy job comes open Enos could be interested.  Sure hope not.  What are the chances???

Großer Kriegschwein

He didn't leave a HC position to come here and go to Cincinnati.
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Calling All Hogs

If the job was offered to him I would expect him to take it. Not sure he is a proven enough head coach to get it. It would hurt us for sure and I would ate to see him go. I am hoping he becomes Arkansas' first million dollar OC. 

a0ashle

Quote from: Medic821 on October 19, 2016, 02:12:47 pm
Heard rumors today if Cincy job comes open Enos could be interested.  Sure hope not.  What are the chances???

Where did the rumors come from? Cincy? I could have believed it a little more if the B12 had expanded and brought them along, but right now he has to be eye-balling a P5 job next.

Razorbackers

I mean, maybe? I guess? I'm sure he'll get a phone call. He's coached and recruited in that area, and been successful as the OC here.

Depends on if you think CMU Enos would do well at Cincy.

a0ashle

Quote from: Calling All Hogs on October 19, 2016, 02:19:33 pm
If the job was offered to him I would expect him to take it. Not sure he is a proven enough head coach to get it. It would hurt us for sure and I would ate to see him go. I am hoping he becomes Arkansas' first million dollar OC.

What makes you think he would take it?

King Kong

Has coached there as an Assistant so he knows the job well. Every other former CMU HC has coached there as well (see Brian Kelly and Butch Jones)

Is Tubs really in that much trouble there?

King Kong

Quote from: Calling All Hogs on October 19, 2016, 02:19:33 pm
I am hoping he becomes Arkansas' first million dollar OC.

I think every Razorback fan warts this

Calling All Hogs

Quote from: a0ashle on October 19, 2016, 02:20:52 pm
What makes you think he would take it?
Isn't that the job Tommy Tuberville has now that pays over $2 million a year?

a0ashle

Quote from: Calling All Hogs on October 19, 2016, 02:24:47 pm
Isn't that the job Tommy Tuberville has now that pays over $2 million a year?

Point made.

WMHawgfan

I don't see it happening. I am with the people who thinks he lands a P5 job somewhere. My guess would be a Big 10 team. There are still schools there that look to run a pro style power offense.

Hogdomer

If it is not Cincinatti, it will likely be somewhere.  He had interest last year and stayed, we should thank him for that.  He has done a good job and I hate to see him go, but that is the nature of the beast.

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I hope we keep him for several more years.
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Quote from: Großer Kriegschwein on October 19, 2016, 02:16:55 pm
He didn't leave a HC position to come here and go to Cincinnati.

Exactly, and by all accounts it's going very well for him here. 
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LZH

As many good offensive coaches that are out there in college football today, relatively few of them can do what he can do with play-calling and his quarterbacks. Whenever he does leave we should expect a drop off because it would be a miracle to replace him with somebody that is as talented at what he does. In other words, we need to do what it takes to keep him as long as we can.

ricepig

Quote from: Calling All Hogs on October 19, 2016, 02:19:33 pm
If the job was offered to him I would expect him to take it. Not sure he is a proven enough head coach to get it. It would hurt us for sure and I would ate to see him go. I am hoping he becomes Arkansas' first million dollar OC. 

He's here until there's a job that entices him to leave. I know that sounds trite, but it's the nature of the beast those guys are employed in.

Here's a little piece on assistant coach's lives.

http://footballscoop.com/news/story-about-promising-young-coach-who-got-fired/

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Quote from: Hogdomer on October 19, 2016, 02:29:37 pm
If it is not Cincinatti, it will likely be somewhere.  He had interest last year and stayed, we should thank him for that.  He has done a good job and I hate to see him go, but that is the nature of the beast.
This. Too much coaching turnover on the horizon for him to stay. He gone.
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Quote from: go hogues on October 19, 2016, 02:47:18 pm
This. Too much coaching turnover on the horizon for him to stay. He gone.

Doubtful. and if he leaves, it'll be for something better than Cincinnati...

code red

Enos will be leaving at some point.  That is reality.
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HyperDrive

If LSU weren't so hellbent on getting a "name" coach, they'd do well to come after Enos themselves.  He has had success as a head coach, and now he's getting it done in the toughest division in college football as an OC and doing it with talent that's not as highly rated as many of his conference foes.

Pork Ranger

he oughtta stay with AA for one more year. Plenty of good opportunities after that

010HogFan

Quote from: HyperDrive on October 19, 2016, 02:52:39 pm
If LSU weren't so hellbent on getting a "name" coach, they'd do well to come after Enos themselves.  He has had success as a head coach, and now he's getting it done in the toughest division in college football as an OC and doing it with talent that's not as highly rated as many of his conference foes.

Shhhhhhhhhhh

tannerstahl

Quote from: Medic821 on October 19, 2016, 02:12:47 pm
Heard rumors today if Cincy job comes open Enos could be interested.  Sure hope not.  What are the chances???

when you say you "heard rumors" ....who's telling these rumors and do they have inside knowledge and validity
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phadedhawg

I don't think you need to hear rumors to assume it's gonna be harder each year to hold on to Enos.  If we retain him this off season we should consider it a miracle because there's no way we'd keep him longer than 3 years.  I guess if Arkansas's offense collapsed he might not be a hot commodity but if that's the case we'd prolly cut him regardless. 

But I really hope he stays for next year...please oh please...

 

Medic821

Quote from: tannerstahl on October 19, 2016, 02:56:48 pm
when you say you "heard rumors" ....who's telling these rumors and do they have inside knowledge and validity
Was in Columbus for work and heard it on one of their sports call in shows.

Großer Kriegschwein

Quote from: Medic821 on October 19, 2016, 03:03:25 pm
   Was in Columbus for work and heard it on one of their sports call in shows.

That's funny.
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Quote from: HyperDrive on October 19, 2016, 02:52:39 pm
If LSU weren't so hellbent on getting a "name" coach, they'd do well to come after Enos themselves.  He has had success as a head coach, and now he's getting it done in the toughest division in college football as an OC and doing it with talent that's not as highly rated as many of his conference foes.

SEC non-compete clause for all Arkansas coaches...

010HogFan

Quote from: ARtillahog on October 19, 2016, 03:08:06 pm
SEC non-compete clause for all Arkansas coaches... so no they couldn't get him.

I think that's just to take the same position though. He could go be a head coach in the SEC, but not an offensive coordinator...the buyout on that clause really isn't all that expensive either

Medic821

Quote from: Großer Kriegschwein on October 19, 2016, 03:05:59 pm
That's funny.  Just tellin' you what they were sayin... Funny ain't it...

ARtillahog

Quote from: 010HogFan on October 19, 2016, 03:09:04 pm
I think that's just to take the same position though. He could go be a head coach in the SEC, but not an offensive coordinator...the buyout on that clause really isn't all that expensive either
Yeah, I just changed it bc I couldn't remember if it was for the same position or for all positions.

HyperDrive

Quote from: ARtillahog on October 19, 2016, 03:08:06 pm
SEC non-compete clause for all Arkansas coaches...

That only applies if it's a lateral or lower move.  Not if he's offered a head coaching slot.  The pertinent section of the contract:

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http://www.arkansasfight.com/2015/12/6/9857800/could-georgia-hire-arkansas-dan-enos-offensive-coordinator-espn

ARtillahog

Quote from: HyperDrive on October 19, 2016, 03:10:40 pm
That only applies if it's a lateral or lower move.  Not if he's offered a head coaching slot.  The pertinent section of the contract:

Already pointed out and discussed prior.

King Kong

Quote from: ARtillahog on October 19, 2016, 03:08:06 pm
SEC non-compete clause for all Arkansas coaches...

He is talking abot HC for which Enos does not have a non-compete clause


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jgphillips3

Pay him a million, give him assistant head coach and make him the "head coach in waiting".  Keep him here.

King Kong

Quote from: jgphillips3 on October 19, 2016, 03:11:53 pm
Pay him a million, give him assistant head coach and make him the "head coach in waiting".  Keep him here.

HC in waiting for a OC that is older than the current HC?

ErieHog

Quote from: a0ashle on October 19, 2016, 02:20:22 pm
Where did the rumors come from? Cincy? I could have believed it a little more if the B12 had expanded and brought them along, but right now he has to be eye-balling a P5 job next.

This is a copy over from a TigerDroppings thread, where folks are trying to troll Arkansas posters.
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Quote from: HyperDrive on October 19, 2016, 02:52:39 pm
If LSU weren't so hellbent on getting a "name" coach, they'd do well to come after Enos themselves.  He has had success as a head coach, and now he's getting it done in the toughest division in college football as an OC and doing it with talent that's not as highly rated as many of his conference foes.

He's too nice a guy for Baton Rouge.  You need to be a little bit of a gunslinger and maverick to step into that job. 
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Großer Kriegschwein

Not that I care about whether or not you're irritated about my comment, but I wasnt referring to you. I was referring to people talking about replacing Tubbs two weeks after he signed a contract extension that increased his buyout:

Googles bruh.
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Medic821

Quote from: Großer Kriegschwein on October 19, 2016, 03:17:06 pm
Not that I care about whether or not you're irritated about my comment, but I wasnt referring to you. I was referring to people talking about replacing Tubbs two weeks after he signed a contract extension that increased his buyout:

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Quote from: King Kong on October 19, 2016, 02:22:00 pm
Has coached there as an Assistant so he knows the job well. Every other former CMU HC has coached there as well (see Brian Kelly and Butch Jones)

Is Tubs really in that much trouble there?

CMU had a downturn under Enos until his style of players was recruited. Mainly because he doesn't run the same schemes as Kelly or Jones. Tubbs probably running something similar to,these two coaches. Not sure just a guess.

Would Cincy want to go down as Enos recruits his style of players for his scheme?
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It is also possible that Enos is perfectly happy being an OC. I mean he left a HC job to be the OC here. Some guys are just better suited to that role, maybe he is one of them.
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Quote from: King Kong on October 19, 2016, 03:14:06 pm
HC in waiting for a OC that is older than the current HC?

Sure.  Unless Bielema intends to retire here...why not?

longpig

Quote from: 010HogFan on October 19, 2016, 03:09:04 pm
I think that's just to take the same position though. He could go be a head coach in the SEC, but not an offensive coordinator...the buyout on that clause really isn't all that expensive either

Inexpensive buyout on Enos's noncompete clause?  If there is such a thing Georgia is kicking itself in the ass for not paying it.
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Quote from: ChitownHawg on October 19, 2016, 03:23:06 pm
CMU had a downturn under Enos until his style of players was recruited. Mainly because he doesn't run the same schemes as Kelly or Jones. Tubbs probably running something similar to,these two coaches. Not sure just a guess.

Would Cincy want to go down as Enos recruits his style of players for his scheme?

Tuberville signed his extension on the 1st of October.
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Quote from: longpig on October 19, 2016, 03:29:24 pm
Inexpensive buyout on Enos's noncompete clause?  If there is such a thing Georgia is kicking itself in the ass for not paying it.

I don't believe there's a buyout on the noncompete.

longpig

Quote from: King Kong on October 19, 2016, 03:14:06 pm
HC in waiting for a OC that is older than the current HC?

They're pretty much the same age and Bielema is years ahead of Enos career wise. 
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HyperDrive

Quote from: hogsanity on October 19, 2016, 03:26:22 pm
It is also possible that Enos is perfectly happy being an OC. I mean he left a HC job to be the OC here. Some guys are just better suited to that role, maybe he is one of them.

I doubt that.  He was only making $360,000 a year at Central Michigan.  He got $550,000 to come to Arkansas and is now up to $700,000 for this season.  He also felt that CMU's president wasn't in his corner and wouldn't be likely to extend his deal beyond what it already was. 

He'll be a head coach again somewhere, but he gets valuable experience at the highest level of college football and has doubled his salary after one year while doing it.  If he keeps it up, he'll get a crack at a Power 5 school.

HyperDrive

Quote from: longpig on October 19, 2016, 03:29:24 pm
Inexpensive buyout on Enos's noncompete clause?  If there is such a thing Georgia is kicking itself in the ass for not paying it.

I don't think there was a buyout.  It's just a straight up non-compete for any lateral moves.  He'd have to sit out a year or two at least.

longpig

Quote from: ricepig on October 19, 2016, 03:32:25 pm
I don't believe there's a buyout on the noncompete.

That's what I thought.  I guess another program could try and legally nullify one but that would be near impossible and could take years.
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