do the hogs have an encrypted secure communication system

[Piggfoot]

When they go to places like Auburn?

[supersaint]

What in the world???  

It's not far fetched. I know for a fact that coaches have been able to hear the what the other team's coaches were saying through their headsets.

[tusksincolorado]

When they go to places like Auburn?

Don't fret....cheating never happens in Auburn....

[Stewhog 11]

Hoganese?

[Arkansas Fan]

Hoganese?

Hopefully, the Barners haven't captured someone from our staff and figured out our Hoganese.

[Locutus_of_Boar]

Hopefully, the Barners haven't captured someone from our staff and figured out our Hoganese.

All Hoganese Code Talkers are assigned a 450 lb. bodyguard who speaks only Russian and is trained to protect them if at all possible and set on them if they are at risk of capture.   

[ricepig]

According to the Red Pup fans, some kid hijacked their stadium frequency and led a Hog call during their game Saturday night, lol.

[The_Bionic_Pig]

Hand signals from Enos to the backup to the QB can be overruled by Allen as a failsafe if the play looks to be in jeopardy.

Most Razorback plays are scripted well in advance (almost entire drives) unless 2/3rd and very long situations arise.

My understanding is that Arkansas can call so many different play's from a exact same formation that stealing signals is not really effective.

[Oklahawg]

Years ago, we were playing UGA who was starting a rather inexperienced QB (IIRC). The UGA QB would crouch much lower when handing the ball off vs his crouch for passing plays. I called an acquaintance who was at the game with a sideline pass. They talked to a GA. It kind of died there, or so my friend and I thought. 

Turns out, it was picked up from the press box but by the time they were ready to do something with this new knowledge UGA had seen it also and fixed the problem

Teams seem to be pretty adept at figuring out if there is a problem.

[Großer Kriegschwein]

Hand signals from Enos to the backup to the QB can be overruled by Allen as a failsafe if the play looks to be in jeopardy.

Most Razorback plays are scripted well in advance (almost entire drives) unless 2/3rd and very long situations arise.

My understanding is that Arkansas can call so many different play's from a exact same formation that stealing signals is not really effective.

Gus has been quietly accused of signal stealing more than once, and by Jimbo Fisher of all people. I'm sure Bret has systems in place.

[HyperDrive]

Gus has been quietly accused of signal stealing more than once, and by Jimbo Fisher of all people. I'm sure Bret has systems in place.

That's because Jimbo Fisher is dumb as a box of rocks.  His QB/WR coach had left FSU for Auburn before the season.  They meet in the national title game and that coach could look across the field and see plain as day that FSU hadn't bothered to change their signals.  What was he supposed to do, look away?  It's not like someone was sitting behind the FSU bench with a camera and a parabolic mic to steal play calls.  FSU was just dumb.

Name the other time.

[Danny J]

That's because Jimbo Fisher is dumb as a box of rocks.  His QB/WR coach had left FSU for Auburn before the season.  They meet in the national title game and that coach could look across the field and see plain as day that FSU hadn't bothered to change their signals.  What was he supposed to do, look away?  It's not like someone was sitting behind the FSU bench with a camera and a parabolic mic to steal play calls.  FSU was just dumb.

Name the other time.

Did you guys have a chance to look into your elevator issues since 2014?

[Oklahawg]

That's because Jimbo Fisher is dumb as a box of rocks.  His QB/WR coach had left FSU for Auburn before the season.  They meet in the national title game and that coach could look across the field and see plain as day that FSU hadn't bothered to change their signals.  What was he supposed to do, look away?  It's not like someone was sitting behind the FSU bench with a camera and a parabolic mic to steal play calls.  FSU was just dumb.

Name the other time.

Aubbie is lead by a HS coach if they don't have a grad asst or three assigned to watching signs in an attempt to steal them. Rarely works, but it is worth tracking.

[Großer Kriegschwein]

That's because Jimbo Fisher is dumb as a box of rocks.  His QB/WR coach had left FSU for Auburn before the season.  They meet in the national title game and that coach could look across the field and see plain as day that FSU hadn't bothered to change their signals.  What was he supposed to do, look away?  It's not like someone was sitting behind the FSU bench with a camera and a parabolic mic to steal play calls.  FSU was just dumb.

Name the other time.

Kansas State and Arkansas 2014.

Toolbag

Just like knowing that our offensive coordinator could be a stunt double for Fat Bastard and having the elevator "break" during our game. Shouldn't have been fat, we wouldn't have been able to get away with it.

[HyperDrive]

Kansas State and Arkansas 2014.

Toolbag

Link?

Just like knowing that our offensive coordinator could be a stunt double for Fat Bastard and having the elevator "break" during our game. Shouldn't have been fat, we wouldn't have been able to get away with it.

Yeah, because mechanical stuff never breaks or malfunctions.  And that's totally why you lost by 24.

[HyperDrive]

Did you guys have a chance to look into your elevator issues since 2014?

Have you guys gotten counseling for the compulsive excuse-making when you lose?

[ricepig]

Link?


Yeah, because mechanical stuff never breaks or malfunctions.  And that's totally why you lost by 24.

http://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/11551618/kansas-state-wildcats-coach-bill-snyder-accuses-auburn-tigers-signal-stealing

[Großer Kriegschwein]

http://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/11551618/kansas-state-wildcats-coach-bill-snyder-accuses-auburn-tigers-signal-stealing

Beat me to it.

[HyperDrive]

http://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/11551618/kansas-state-wildcats-coach-bill-snyder-accuses-auburn-tigers-signal-stealing

Ok then, next question.  If you notice that a team does a certain signal, and everytime that signal is given they run a certain play, what are you supposed to do with that knowledge?  Are you telling me that if someone on the Arkansas sideline figured out how to interpret the signs we hold up and the signals we send in that it wouldn't be communicated to the defense?

[Großer Kriegschwein]

Yeah, because mechanical stuff never breaks or malfunctions.  And that's totally why you lost by 24.

Sure didn't help when we were tied at 21

[Großer Kriegschwein]

Ok then, next question.  If you notice that a team does a certain signal, and everytime that signal is given they run a certain play, what are you supposed to do with that knowledge?  Are you telling me that if someone on the Arkansas sideline figured out how to interpret the signs we hold up and the signals we send in that it wouldn't be communicated to the defense?

You coach your team instead of staring at the opposing sideline.

[HyperDrive]

I'll also note, Synder contended that we were "stealing" signals in the first half.  A half where they had 197 yds and a TD. 

The second half, after they changed the signs, they got 122 yds and a TD.

Could it be that you just weren't that good on offense that night and your players could have had multiple tells that gave away whether a play was run or pass, or which side it was going to?

[HyperDrive]

You coach your team instead of staring at the opposing sideline.

Newsflash...teams are looking across the way during games all the time.  I will guarantee you, staff on other teams (including Arkansas), is looking to see if there's a correlation between certain signs/signals and the play call.  If this is surprising to you, I'd suggest leaving the basement every once in a while.

[ricepig]

Ok then, next question.  If you notice that a team does a certain signal, and everytime that signal is given they run a certain play, what are you supposed to do with that knowledge?  Are you telling me that if someone on the Arkansas sideline figured out how to interpret the signs we hold up and the signals we send in that it wouldn't be communicated to the defense?

You asked for a link, I provided one. I generally don't have a problem with stealing signals, it's part of the game, just like in baseball. We huddle, so our signals are a number that AA has on his wristband, pretty hard to discern what the play is. I guess as long as someone is jamming signals, it's all fair.

[HyperDrive]

Sure didn't help when we were tied at 21

You got blanked 24-0 in the second half.  Do you take cheese with that whine?

[Großer Kriegschwein]

I'll also note, Synder contended that we were "stealing" signals in the first half.  A half where they had 197 yds and a TD. 

The second half, after they changed the signs, they got 122 yds and a TD.

Could it be that you just weren't that good on offense that night and your players could have had multiple tells that gave away whether a play was run or pass, or which side it was going to?

Couldn't it be that you are also a scumbag, like your head coach, and won't admit that having people steal signals from the opposing sideline is similar to listening to their headsets?

[Großer Kriegschwein]

You got blanked 24-0 in the second half.  Do you take cheese with that whine?

Our OC not being able to get to the locker room didn't have anything to do with it either.

Moron.

[HyperDrive]

Also of note:

"They had an awareness -- or may have -- that was my indication," Snyder said Monday on the Big 12 coaches conference call. "They may have had awareness to what some of our signals were and confidently we had the ability to change them. That's extremely common in athletics. That's just part of the game. It is not 'stealing.' That's the way of the game, coached and conducted."

http://www.al.com/auburnfootball/index.ssf/2014/09/auburn_reading_signals_is_not.html

[HyperDrive]

Couldn't it be that you are also a scumbag, like your head coach, and won't admit that having people steal signals from the opposing sideline is similar to listening to their headsets?

No, but it could be that you desperately cling to bitter excuses when you lose rather than admit you just got beaten by a superior team. 

This wasn't espionage and Bill Snyder even said so.  Signals are out in the open and if you're looking out on the field, depending on your vantage points, you almost couldn't avoid seeing them.  Hell, even watching on TV I could see a certain hand motion that Kirby Smart commonly made in certain downs and distances.  I have no idea what it meant, but if you see it enough (it was obvious) and then you see Bama's defense align or react a certain way, you'd be an idiot not to point it out to the OC and HC.

[Hawgar The Horrible]

Mal-a-zahn is a punk.

[HyperDrive]

You asked for a link, I provided one. I generally don't have a problem with stealing signals, it's part of the game, just like in baseball. We huddle, so our signals are a number that AA has on his wristband, pretty hard to discern what the play is. I guess as long as someone is jamming signals, it's all fair.

And I appreciate that.  I had forgotten about it.  But as you said, it's just part of the game.  Any signal done out in the open like that is clearly visible.  If you don't do anything to either shield the signals or make them difficult to interpret, or like Dumbo Fisher you don't even bother to change them when you know a former offensive coach is on the other sideline, that's on you.

Still didn't see a signal stealing link about Arkansas 2014 though.

[HyperDrive]

Mal-a-zahn is a punk.

Poor thing.  Did the mean linebacker hurt your feelings?

[southarkhog06]

so Auburn steals signals, recruits thugs, pays players, and still sucks?

LMFAO, no wonder they are always so salty.

[Großer Kriegschwein]

No, but it could be that you desperately cling to bitter excuses when you lose rather than admit you just got beaten by a superior team. 

This wasn't espionage and Bill Snyder even said so.  Signals are out in the open and if you're looking out on the field, depending on your vantage points, you almost couldn't avoid seeing them.  Hell, even watching on TV I could see a certain hand motion that Kirby Smart commonly made in certain downs and distances.  I have no idea what it meant, but if you see it enough (it was obvious) and then you see Bama's defense align or react a certain way, you'd be an idiot not to point it out to the OC and HC.

We played the reigning national runner-up to a tie in the first half, on the road after not winning a single conference game the previous year. Do you honestly think I was actually expecting to win that game?

[Großer Kriegschwein]

https://www.google.com/amp/www.sbnation.com/platform/amp/college-football/2014/9/4/6104425/football-coaches-stealing-signals-signs-play-calls?client=safari

[HyperDrive]

https://www.google.com/amp/www.sbnation.com/platform/amp/college-football/2014/9/4/6104425/football-coaches-stealing-signals-signs-play-calls?client=safari

http://www.teamspeedkills.com/2014/9/1/6094981/bret-bielema-quote-auburn-spying

[longpig]

Those big yellow 3rd down signs that OM holds up aren't reminders to their unattentive defense, they're long range nonparabolic listening devices.  Look close and you can see the wires.

[sickboy]

Ok then, next question.  If you notice that a team does a certain signal, and everytime that signal is given they run a certain play, what are you supposed to do with that knowledge?  Are you telling me that if someone on the Arkansas sideline figured out how to interpret the signs we hold up and the signals we send in that it wouldn't be communicated to the defense?

Yeah, I know you're an Auburn fan and we "hate" each other and everything. And Gus Malzhan is a high school devil... but I agree with you here. If it's on the field and the opposing team isn't smart enough to know they're showing their hand -- it's fair game.

Now, hacking someone's telecommunications equipment (I'm not saying Auburn has done this) is another story.

[Seebs]

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[ricepig]

And I appreciate that.  I had forgotten about it.  But as you said, it's just part of the game.  Any signal done out in the open like that is clearly visible.  If you don't do anything to either shield the signals or make them difficult to interpret, or like Dumbo Fisher you don't even bother to change them when you know a former offensive coach is on the other sideline, that's on you.

Still didn't see a signal stealing link about Arkansas 2014 though.

http://www.sbnation.com/college-football/2014/9/4/6104425/football-coaches-stealing-signals-signs-play-calls

[Großer Kriegschwein]

Those big yellow 3rd down signs that OM holds up aren't reminders to their unattentive defense, they're long range nonparabolic listening devices.  Look close and you can see the wires.

And apparently Ole Miss was unaware you had to plug them into your headset. Instead they plugged them into their arses. You saw the results.

[HyperDrive]

http://www.sbnation.com/college-football/2014/9/4/6104425/football-coaches-stealing-signals-signs-play-calls

So let me get this straight...Bielema was accusing us of stealing signs, but says he wasn't.  But then, some coaches say that every team is looking at signs and trying to correlate that to play calls for their teams, so in the end it's completely immaterial.

How is this some Auburn issue again?

[ricepig]

So let me get this straight...Bielema was accusing us of stealing signs, but says he wasn't.  But then, some coaches say that every team is looking at signs and trying to correlate that to play calls for their teams, so in the end it's completely immaterial.

How is this some Auburn issue again?

You seem to have a problem with asking for a link, being shown a link, and understanding that we are just providing you one. I just hope you are around after the game, or on Sunday, you'll probably be as hard to find as old reb Kevan lol.

[Großer Kriegschwein]

You seem to have a problem with asking for a link, being shown a link, and understanding that we are just providing you one. I just hope you are around after the game, or on Sunday, you'll probably be as hard to find as old reb Kevan lol.

He has been kinda ghost-lik after the 4th & 25!diatribe.

[PorkRinds]

Auburn trolls are the worst. Their "high school" football coach steals signals and has since he coached high school.  It is what it is. 

[greasy_corner]

I'm sick of this Auburn bashing!  Coach Gus doesn't steal signals! 

He pays for them.  Fair and square. 

[HyperDrive]

You seem to have a problem with asking for a link, being shown a link, and understanding that we are just providing you one. I just hope you are around after the game, or on Sunday, you'll probably be as hard to find as old reb Kevan lol.

Well, thank you for the link.  But now that we have it, it kinda makes sense to actually read what it says and ask some questions.  You seem to have a problem with digging any deeper than "here's a link."

[Michael_E_Davis]

Don't tell me the Russians are going to help Auburn.  Damn.  We better get something secured before wikileaks releases our plays.

[HyperDrive]

You seem to have a problem with asking for a link, being shown a link, and understanding that we are just providing you one. I just hope you are around after the game, or on Sunday, you'll probably be as hard to find as old reb Kevan lol.

I'm here, ricepig.