How Long?

[onebadrubi]

No disrespect intended here, but should he be paid 3+ million to get 7-8 wins a year?

I bet of that 3 mil you contribute not even .00000000000001%. 

Whether you like it or not, Bielema has minimum of 3 years left here after this season baring some sort of scandal or him leaving on his own. 

[onebadrubi]

Find me a team that doesn't go through thepugh rebuidling years.  Even BAMA does.  Part of football.

You've got your hands full buddy, good luck!  The idiots are rampant in this thread.

[JaketheSnake]

You've got your hands full buddy, good luck!  The idiots are rampant in this thread.

yep, time to hang them up for the night. 

[justasportsfan]

I bet of that 3 mil you contribute not even .00000000000001%. 

Whether you like it or not, Bielema has minimum of 3 years left here after this season baring some sort of scandal or him leaving on his own.

LOL.  And you do?  And, Im sure he does have 3 years left.  And Im not shouting for his head.  Just talking, like everyone else.

[(notOM)Rebel123]

No disrespect intended here, but should he be paid 3+ million to get 7-8 wins a year?

http://www.saturdaydownsouth.com/sec-football/2016-sec-head-coaching-salaries/

"Welcome to the 90's Mr. Banks...."

https://youtu.be/N52M3TN9KDo

[justasportsfan]

"Welcome to the 90's Mr. Banks...."

https://youtu.be/N52M3TN9KDo

http://www.saturdaydownsouth.com/sec-football/2016-sec-head-coaching-salaries/

Thanks, stuff I already knew.  Should he, or anyone actually?  Anyway, Go Hogs.

[(notOM)Rebel123]

Thanks, stuff I already knew.  Should he, or anyone actually?  Anyway, Go Hogs.

Then why ask?...if you already knew? Geez.

[Hogs-n-Roses]

Bielema will leave this place on his own soon. His agent will require it to save his career. His schtick don't work here. He'll go to Iowa or some big ten school quick.

[hogblitz]

I'm sure your opinion will weigh heavily in the BOT & AD's decision.
Your love for everything BP has clouded your judgement. You do realize that CBP lost to both Bama & LSU by 24 in his 4th season? Plus, he wasn't trying to put out a complete dumpster fire left by the previous 2 coaches.

I am not bringing up Petrino.  Why are you?  Your comment about losing to LSU by 24 in year 4 is accurate.  However, I do not care if he lost to them by 50!  He won 11 fricking games! The most Beliema has won is 7 but that is not the point. Petrino is not the coach at Arkansas any longer.  Now back to your comment about if I expected better than 4-2 at this point.  Honestly, I expected a 4-2 or 5-1 at this point.  Either would not have surprised me.  Actually, I am not upset about the win loss record. Even though, the bone headed Playcalling in the red zone against A&M cost us the game!   I did not expect to beat Bama but I did expect us to be competitive.  We gave up almost 400 yards at halftime in our home stadium in front of 75,000 people and a national audience.   We gave up over ten yards a play and currently have the 129 ranked defense in year 4! What I am upset about is how bad our defense has been for the last two seasons and shows no sign of getting any better.  I have never liked the passive defensive scheme.  We just play BASE D all the time and refuse to blitz, stunt, or try to confuse the offense.    I firmly believe that our offense will come around and the issues with the OL will get ironed out.  I am just afraid we will have to score 60 to beat anyone.  Hopefully, the defense will come around if Bielema gets involved with it like it was sorted of hinted at.  I have not given up on this year by far but without the defense improving we could go on a losing skid of several games.   Hopefully, the D will get ironed out.  Like I said, if he gets to 8 regular season wins, I think it is not great but acceptable. 

[(notOM)Rebel123]

I am not bringing up Petrino.  Why are you?  Your comment about losing to LSU by 24 in year 4 is accurate.  However, I do not care if he lost to them by 50!  He won 11 fricking games! The most Beliema has won is 7 but that is not the point. Petrino is not the coach at Arkansas any longer. Now back to your comment about if I expected better than 4-2 at this point.  Honestly, I expected a 4-2 or 5-1 at this point.  Either would not have surprised me.  Actually, I am not upset about the win loss record. Even though, the bone headed Playcalling in the red zone against A&M cost us the game!   I did not expect to beat Bama but I did expect us to be competitive.  We gave up almost 400 yards at halftime in our home stadium in front of 75,000 people and a national audience.   We gave up over ten yards a play and currently have the 129 ranked defense in year 4! What I am upset about is how bad our defense has been for the last two seasons and shows no sign of getting any better.  I have never liked the passive defensive scheme.  We just play BASE D all the time and refuse to blitz, stunt, or try to confuse the offense.    I firmly believe that our offense will come around and the issues with the OL will get ironed out.  I am just afraid we will have to score 60 to beat anyone.  Hopefully, the defense will come around if Bielema gets involved with it like it was sorted of hinted at.  I have not given up on this year by far but without the defense improving we could go on a losing skid of several games.   Hopefully, the D will get ironed out.  Like I said, if he gets to 8 regular season wins, I think it is not great but acceptable. 

Well, in many of your previous post, you sure seem to be a fan of CBP, with your constant references to him.

[JOKERHOG]

Bielema will leave this place on his own soon. His agent will require it to save his career. His schtick don't work here. He'll go to Iowa or some big ten school quick.

I agree with this.  He is in way over his head in the SEC.  He belongs in the little 10 but it is tougher now with Meyer and Harbow.

[(notOM)Rebel123]

I agree with this.  He is in way over his head in the SEC.  He belongs in the little 10 but it is tougher now with Meyer and Harbow.

Yeah, no coach who took 3 straight teams to the Rose Bowl has anyplace in the SEC.

[JOKERHOG]

Yeah, no coach who took 3 straight teams to the Rose Bowl has anyplace in the SEC.

sure looks that way

[(notOM)Rebel123]

sure looks that way

Because he lost 2 games to teams ranked #1 & #6? You are delusional.
Go root for Louisville. According to some of you previous posts, you still have your head up BP's arse.

[rljjr]

Because programs like Texas expect to win and will fire strong after three years. We?? We will have integrity and being Bret beliema for another two years... because remember next year will be a rebuilding year too.


Instead of stadium upgrades offer tom her-superman ten mill a year... but we don't have the guts to get it right

But Tom Herman's team just lost!!! GASP.

Teams lose. It happens. We haven't hit the highs with Bielema yet.

[(notOM)Rebel123]

But Tom Herman's team just lost!!! GASP.

Teams lose. It happens. We haven't hit the highs with Bielema yet.

Fire Tom Herman!!!

[ErieHog]

I agree with this.  He is in way over his head in the SEC.  He belongs in the little 10 but it is tougher now with Meyer and Harbow.

I'm not sure if you mean the ex-49ers coach, or a gummy bear.  Either way, there's no 'Harbow'.

[onebadrubi]

Thanks, stuff I already knew.  Should he, or anyone actually?  Anyway, Go Hogs.

You sound like a Bernie fan.  No one should make that kind of money is what you are saying. If the market is going to pay it, and Bielema has certainly created a resume to demand a high salary in the CFB market, then more power to him.

[Styflin]

Most Hog fans would expect the loss to Alabama. BB track record would indicate he would lose to aTm. Put the record aside for a second. Our team looks lost out there. We are fielding one of the worst defenses I can remember. Our offensive line is in shambles. We look bad. Should we realistically expect a Championship after 4 years? Probably not, but we sure as hell can expect better than this.

[rljjr]

Fire Tom Herman!!!

PLUS 5 Gajillion!

[hogblitz]

Well, in many of your previous post, you sure seem to be a fan of CBP, with your constant references to him.

I do like Petrino.  He elevated our program.  Bielema would probably not even be our coach without the elevation of our program by Petrino. He is not our coach anymore.  He messed up and is gone. But, I think everyone should be appreciative for his on the field success here and not act like it was a fluke or it did not happen.  People should also recognize that we do not have to accept mediocrity any longer.  The right coach can win big here. 

[(notOM)Rebel123]

PLUS 5 Gajillion!

How can people be happy with a coach who can't run the table in AAC?
He'll never be a Jack Pardee.

[onebadrubi]

Most Hog fans would expect the loss to Alabama. BB track record would indicate he would lose to aTm. Put the record aside for a second. Our team looks lost out there. We are fielding one of the worst defenses I can remember. Our offensive line is in shambles. We look bad. Should we realistically expect a Championship after 4 years? Probably not, but we sure as hell can expect better than this.

Post like these might have some merit after the season. But after 6 games, sitting 4-2, those two losses being to consensus #1 and #6 teams, let's see what we do against teams not ranked in the top 15 which is where are talent and experience is more equal too.

[onebadrubi]

How can people be happy with a coach who can't run the table in AAC?
He'll never be a Jack Pardee.

He also got handed a defensive stacked team with south Florida kids. He had a d coordinator the first year he canned I believe then went and had to pay absolute top dollar to get one that would be competitive.

[justasportsfan]

Most Hog fans would expect the loss to Alabama. BB track record would indicate he would lose to aTm. Put the record aside for a second. Our team looks lost out there. We are fielding one of the worst defenses I can remember. Our offensive line is in shambles. We look bad. Should we realistically expect a Championship after 4 years? Probably not, but we sure as hell can expect better than this.

This, is why I ask if he deserves the money.  Lost, and losing ground from last year.  And, of those 4 wins, what real quality, other than TCU, and people are beginning to see that TCU is/was overrated.  In 4 years, we as fans, ticket buyers, contributors, expect to see more than I've seen.  Just saying my opinion.  We all got ours.

[(notOM)Rebel123]

I do like Petrino.  He elevated our program.  Bielema would probably not even be our coach without the elevation of our program by Petrino. He is not our coach anymore.  He messed up and is gone. But, I think everyone should be appreciative for his on the field success here and not act like it was a fluke or it did not happen.  People should also recognize that we do not have to accept mediocrity any longer.  The right coach can win big here. 

Nobody is acting like BP's great season(s) never happened. But he screwed the University & the Fans. For as great of an offensive coach as he is, he was a jerk and left the UofA in a no-win situation. It was nobody's fault but his own and we are still paying the price for his stupidity.

[(notOM)Rebel123]

This, is why I ask if he deserves the money.  Lost, and losing ground from last year.  And, of those 4 wins, what real quality, other than TCU, and people are beginning to see that TCU is/was overrated.  In 4 years, we as fans, ticket buyers, contributors, expect to see more than I've seen.  Just saying my opinion.  We all got ours.

You've mentioned being a contributor a few times...just curious how long you've been contributing?

[hogblitz]

Nobody is acting like BP's great season(s) never happened. But he screwed the University & the Fans. For as great of an offensive coach as he is, he was a jerk and left the UofA in a no-win situation. It was nobody's fault but his own and we are still paying the price for his stupidity.

After 4 years of nothing but Beilema's recruits and system!? If you are a democrat, I bet you still blame Bush! 

[(notOM)Rebel123]

After 4 years of nothing but Beilema's recruits and system!? If you are a democrat, I bet you still blame Bush! 

Not "after" 4 years...6 weeks in to year 4. CBB had to clean up CBP's dumpster fire not to mention a year of "slappy the clown". And no, not a Democrat.

[justasportsfan]

You've mentioned being a contributor a few times...just curious how long you've been contributing?

You know, I actually did mention it once, in the above post, it was a reference to all.  A long time.  As I've read on others profiles or whatever, my name is chiseled in the sidewalk up there.  Does it get me any more right to express my opinion Sir?  Nope.  Just the right to say what I think and feel the same as everyone else.  And its purely my opinion, I am not a coach.  Nor do I want to be.

[hogblitz]

Not "after" 4 years...6 weeks in to year 4. And no, not a Democrat.

Agreed but 4 recruiting classes.   The season is not over.  Hopefully, we turn it around and reach the kind of improvement that should be expected of a coach in year 4.  Like I stated before, with the bar set so low 8 regular season wins should be expected.  He wins 8 and I think most everyone will think that is acceptable.  Anything less is an epic failure.

[hogblitz]

Not "after" 4 years...6 weeks in to year 4. CBB had to clean up CBP's dumpster fire not to mention a year of "slappy the clown". And no, not a Democrat.

However, I have never agreed with the dumpster fire sentiment.  It was no worse than what Petrino inherited in 2008.  But, that is a whole different conversation. 

[EastexHawg]

I highly doubt you have been here for years.......

I have, and he's right.

[(notOM)Rebel123]

You know, I actually did mention it once, in the above post, it was a reference to all.  A long time.  As I've read on others profiles or whatever, my name is chiseled in the sidewalk up there.  Does it get me any more right to express my opinion Sir?  Nope.  Just the right to say what I think and feel the same as everyone else.  And its purely my opinion, I am not a coach.  Nor do I want to be.

My name is etched in the sidewalk in front of Ole Main. And yes, you have a right to express your opinion. But what does being so critical on a message board accomplish? Are fans happy with last Saturday's outcome? No. But the Hogs are my team. Have been since the early 70's. I support them win or lose. If people are unhappy, call Jeff Long. Call CBB. But spewing discontent on a message board is not what this team needs right now.

[(notOM)Rebel123]

However, I have never agreed with the dumpster fire sentiment.  It was no worse than what Petrino inherited in 2008.  But, that is a whole different conversation. 

No worse? Seriously? My gosh....What Nutt left Bobby was far better than what BP &JLS left for CBB.

[justasportsfan]

My name is etched in the sidewalk in front of Ole Main. And yes, you have a right to express your opinion. But what does being so critical on a message board accomplish? Are fans happy with last Saturday's outcome? No. But the Hogs are my team. Have been since the early 70's. I support them win or lose. If people are unhappy, call Jeff Long. Call CBB. But spewing discontent on a message board is not what this team needs right now.

Mine as well, since the late 60's, and if you think Im spewing discontent, you must surely be ignoring the thousands of other posts by people much more outspoken than I.  I have yet to call for his head, but I'd think you'd agree that some serious changes need to happen real soon, or the most common goal of 8 wins won't even be reached.  I have played the game, and followed the game my entire life, as Im sure you have.  Should a message board be all sugar and spice?  I haven't seen that on any message board, and if you find one, we can both go and look.

[(notOM)Rebel123]

Mine as well, since the late 60's, and if you think Im spewing discontent, you must surely be ignoring the thousands of other posts by people much more outspoken than I.  I have yet to call for his head, but I'd think you'd agree that some serious changes need to happen real soon, or the most common goal of 8 wins won't even be reached.  I have played the game, and followed the game my entire life, as Im sure you have.  Should a message board be all sugar and spice?  I haven't seen that on any message board, and if you find one, we can both go and look.

Fair enough.

[hogblitz]

Nutt left absolutely nothing!  People tend to forget that.  Bobby did leave a few good defensive players along with Allen and JWill. Nutt left Casey Dick. Lol.  Michael Williams was really good.  I know I left out probably quite a few on both sides.   I am just saying  both situations were about equal on that front.   Also, obviously each coach did not have players to fit their perspective systems.  Just saying no worse than 2008. 

[(notOM)Rebel123]

Nutt left absolutely nothing!  People tend to forget that.  Bobby did leave a few good defensive players along with Allen and JWill. Nutt left Casey Dick. Lol.  Michael Williams was really good  I am just saying  both situations were about equal on that front.   Also, obviously each coach did not have players to fit their perspective systems.  Just saying no worse than 2008. 

Whatever you say.
Hope ya'll beat Duke.

[hogblitz]

Whatever you say.

We are both fans and just want to win.  Hopefully, that starts with this weekend!  Have a good night.

[JaketheSnake]

Nutt left absolutely nothing!  People tend to forget that.  Bobby did leave a few good defensive players along with Allen and JWill. Nutt left Casey Dick. Lol.  Michael Williams was really good.  I know I left out probably quite a few on both sides.   I am just saying  both situations were about equal on that front.   Also, obviously each coach did not have players to fit their perspective systems.  Just saying no worse than 2008. 

Difference is we had the best crop of instate Talent (arguably) ever that year, then add Mallett and you've got the reason BP won quicker.  CBB took over a program in much worse condition than BP and is installing a system that take more time and should provide more long term stability. 

[onebadrubi]

This, is why I ask if he deserves the money.  Lost, and losing ground from last year.  And, of those 4 wins, what real quality, other than TCU, and people are beginning to see that TCU is/was overrated.  In 4 years, we as fans, ticket buyers, contributors, expect to see more than I've seen.  Just saying my opinion.  We all got ours.

Thank goodness the people leading this program are much smarter than you. Only one team hasnt had attrition and taken steps back every so often. 

Yes he DESERVES the money. 

[MrThunderhog]

4-2 at this point is the season is understandable

we padded our record beating up directional schools and little sisters of the poor

the only 2 teams that actually had a pulse didn't beat us, they jack hammered us

conference games matter and bielema is horrible when it comes to playing sec teams, which matter

at 7-19 going into a 6 game stretch of conference games should tell us if he is the right man to be head hog

no coach in modern razorback football has started with a conference record as dismal as bielemas

[stan the man]

It's all about talent. We can't compete  with teams that have better talent  Especially the etalent   Alabama gets. Doesn't matter who  the   coach  is.   Saban wasn't so hot  when he was  at Michigan State.  BB seems to be making progress but it will take time. Not sure if its possible to  get enough at Arkansas  This program is not an Elite one and hasn't been one for several decades

[fieldturf]

Bielema will leave this place on his own soon. His agent will require it to save his career. His schtick don't work here. He'll go to Iowa or some big ten school quick.

Please don't get my hopes up.  Were stuck with him til JL retires, just like we are with year 5 Mike over at Bud Walton!!!

[AirForceHog]

Actually it's all about sustainability. This is Arkansas. Not Alabama. Not OSU. We don't have a flashy name. We have recently been a top 25 team. Barely at that. We have been talked about rarely as a contender but if you give it time to build. Then Arkansas can become much more. It may take longer than most of of you yahoos want it to but like I said its Arkansas. I know it sounds like poor little. But honestly it's the truth. If you build it they will come 

[IntegrityHog]

My biggest beef with Long is the ridiculous one-sided buyout that he approved for Bielema's contract.  He could literally go 0-12 next year and we are stuck with him.  That is bad business.

That buyout was put in place to make sure CBB had a reason to stick around when other programs come calling.  If you don't think there were inquiries before the buyout was redesigned, you are kidding yourself.

[CaddoHog]

2018

this^

[Biggus Piggus]

Way early for the OP's question. And try a little schedule strength adjustment to your expectations. Because what you are asking has never been done at Arkansas. Ever. Not against this kind of opposition.

[gchamblee]

Excuse me, but why would my opinion be considered crap?  Do you honestly believe the record deserves that kind of money?  Really?

and THAT is why your opinion is crap lol. But hey, maybe you're right. Lets chop his salary down right in the middle of his contract and hope we can hire a good coach after he leaves. You have no concept of market value.