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DadVader1

Off to a good start at 4-0, but they were small plays to start the season, so +2 units.  I'm sticking with small stuff for another week or two. 

And I agree - BJO is bringing good info to this thread, and this thread has stayed cordial and friendly for 63 pages, so let's try to keep it that way.

Jeff "hogfanintx" Anderson

Let's make some waves.

 

OldCoot

When you say unit, is that 100$?

Anyone like Fl state at -10.5?  Don't know bout Pitt this year.

Also see Co +3 v. Co state.

Hooch

Whats up guys.

I had kind forgotten about this thread. 

I know post picks before but I went 1-1 in last couple days hit Texas Tech and lost Georgia. 

Rolling with Louisville -21.5  1 unit. 

SPAL

Quote from: Dude on September 01, 2013, 12:44:04 pm
When you say unit, is that 100$?

Anyone like Fl state at -10.5?  Don't know bout Pitt this year.

Also see Co +3 v. Co state.


Depends. A unit for one person could be 10 dollars or 50 dollars or 10,000 dollars. It's just a term used in money management meaning the dollar amount you bet.

SPAL


widespreadsooie

5-2 +3 units YTD

Drunk teases bit my ass last night.

Ohio +21 one unit

daprospecta

looks like I am going against the grain today.I have Ohio at  21.5 and Colorado state at -3 and the over in that game at 48.5.

Jeff "hogfanintx" Anderson

Let's make some waves.

OldCoot

Not touching Co v. co state. I cant find the winner.  They both stink pretty evenly. But I have Louisville.

Jeff "hogfanintx" Anderson

If Ohio doesn't put some points on the board the over may be tough to reach.
Let's make some waves.

Jeff "hogfanintx" Anderson

Let's make some waves.

Jeff "hogfanintx" Anderson

Quote from: Dude on September 01, 2013, 12:44:04 pm
When you say unit, is that 100$?

Anyone like Fl state at -10.5?  Don't know bout Pitt this year.

Also see Co +3 v. Co state.



For me 1 units is 100.00

But like sir pigs mentioned it could be anything.

I know guys that one unit is a grand also called a dime
Nickel = 500.00.   And so forth and so on.
Let's make some waves.

 

Hooch


Jeff "hogfanintx" Anderson

That missed field goal would have covered the over. Surely with 7 minutes to play somebody will put at least 3 more on the board.
Let's make some waves.

BoynamedWooPigSooie

5dimes 10 game parlay.  Odds of 641.08 to 1

Anybody play this?  Explain what I need to know.  I'm not really into gambling but I like the odds of me picking 10 can't miss games over going to any of the Indian casino's across the state line.


How I read it is pick 10 games, straight bets.  You wager a set amount on each games, say $50, so $50x10 = $500 + $50 of juice, so $550 total investment.

Miss a game; lose it all. Pick 10 winners and win $32,054.


I can't stop thinking that in these early weeks there's got to be 10 patsy games and no brainers like S.Carolina over UNC, Clemson over UGA, Bama over VT, etc.

I did a mock this week and won 9/10.  Ohio St. was my miss.

Anyone play parlays on the reg?  What are the pitfalls to be aware of?
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jkstock04

Quote from: BoynamedWooPigSooie on September 01, 2013, 06:02:11 pm
5dimes 10 game parlay.  Odds of 641.08 to 1

Anybody play this?  Explain what I need to know.  I'm not really into gambling but I like the odds of me picking 10 can't miss games over going to any of the Indian casino's across the state line.


How I read it is pick 10 games, straight bets.  You wager a set amount on each games, say $50, so $50x10 = $500 + $50 of juice, so $550 total investment.

Miss a game; lose it all. Pick 10 winners and win $32,054.


I can't stop thinking that in these early weeks there's got to be 10 patsy games and no brainers like S.Carolina over UNC, Clemson over UGA, Bama over VT, etc.

I did a mock this week and won 9/10.  Ohio St. was my miss.

Anyone play parlays on the reg?  What are the pitfalls to be aware of?
I did some 3 or 4 game parlays last year betting big...only picking winners and not the spread (if that is what you mean).

It worked every time I did it. Obviously the risk is that lone underdog that you don't forsee like ULM last year or an Appalachian state.
Thanks for the F Shack. 

Love,

Dirty Mike and the Boys

Jeff "hogfanintx" Anderson

Looking like I screwed the pooch on tonight's game.
Let's make some waves.

SPAL

That fumble return did us in...CSU was driving for the go ahead and a td woulda covered the spread. 14 point swing and that was it

BoynamedWooPigSooie

Quote from: jkstock04 on September 01, 2013, 06:51:29 pm
I did some 3 or 4 game parlays last year betting big...only picking winners and not the spread (if that is what you mean).

It worked every time I did it. Obviously the risk is that lone underdog that you don't forsee like ULM last year or an Appalachian state.


What I read is you can do straight bets or bet the money line.  The money line is kinda confusing to me because I'm not into it enough to learn all the nuances and prop bets and multipliers and side bets you can roll in together in a parlay.

The easiest looks to be just picking the winners against the spreads and betting the same amount on each game.  There's a big jump in the payout odds between 9 and 10 games and 11 and 12 games.

The 12 game parlay pays off at 2300ish to 1.   I just keep thinking with all the trash FBS schools and the extra 5 or 6 schools that have made the jump up to DI there's got to be  10 or so games each week that are no-brainers.   You can include the over/unders (totals) in the parlay too, but I'm much better at picking the winners (65% vs. 57%) than the over/unders.

The games through September have a lot of pushovers and OOC games that should be easy to cherry pick.
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Porked Tongue

Long term, playing exotics is a loser for the bettor.  The percentages will eat you up.

For example:

A 2-game parlay(point spread) has a difficulty level of 1 in 4.

Yet the payoff is not even 3:1.

Following along, a 3-game parlay has a difficulty of 8:1 yet pays 5:1.

Exotics might be fun, but the reward to risk factor is horrible.  The key attraction is that you can simply make a single wager with no juice on it in "a shoot for the moon" approach.

OldCoot

Quote from: Jeff "hogfanintx" Anderson on September 01, 2013, 04:19:06 pm
For me 1 units is 100.00

But like sir pigs mentioned it could be anything.

I know guys that one unit is a grand also called a dime
Nickel = 500.00.   And so forth and so on.

Good info guys. Thanks. Makes you want to make sure you and the bookie speak the same language. :D

Do you always bet at least 1 unit?  I bet less if I am less sure.

Jeff "hogfanintx" Anderson

Quote from: BoynamedWooPigSooie on September 01, 2013, 09:29:05 pm

What I read is you can do straight bets or bet the money line.  The money line is kinda confusing to me because I'm not into it enough to learn all the nuances and prop bets and multipliers and side bets you can roll in together in a parlay.

The easiest looks to be just picking the winners against the spreads and betting the same amount on each game.  There's a big jump in the payout odds between 9 and 10 games and 11 and 12 games.

The 12 game parlay pays off at 2300ish to 1.   I just keep thinking with all the trash FBS schools and the extra 5 or 6 schools that have made the jump up to DI there's got to be  10 or so games each week that are no-brainers.   You can include the over/unders (totals) in the parlay too, but I'm much better at picking the winners (65% vs. 57%) than the over/unders.

The games through September have a lot of pushovers and OOC games that should be easy to cherry pick.
Quote from: BoynamedWooPigSooie on September 01, 2013, 09:29:05 pm

What I read is you can do straight bets or bet the money line.  The money line is kinda confusing to me because I'm not into it enough to learn all the nuances and prop bets and multipliers and side bets you can roll in together in a parlay.

The easiest looks to be just picking the winners against the spreads and betting the same amount on each game.  There's a big jump in the payout odds between 9 and 10 games and 11 and 12 games.

The 12 game parlay pays off at 2300ish to 1.   I just keep thinking with all the trash FBS schools and the extra 5 or 6 schools that have made the jump up to DI there's got to be  10 or so games each week that are no-brainers.   You can include the over/unders (totals) in the parlay too, but I'm much better at picking the winners (65% vs. 57%) than the over/unders.

The games through September have a lot of pushovers and OOC games that should be easy to cherry pick.
Quote from: BoynamedWooPigSooie on September 01, 2013, 09:29:05 pm

What I read is you can do straight bets or bet the money line.  The money line is kinda confusing to me because I'm not into it enough to learn all the nuances and prop bets and multipliers and side bets you can roll in together in a parlay.

The easiest looks to be just picking the winners against the spreads and betting the same amount on each game.  There's a big jump in the payout odds between 9 and 10 games and 11 and 12 games.

The 12 game parlay pays off at 2300ish to 1.   I just keep thinking with all the trash FBS schools and the extra 5 or 6 schools that have made the jump up to DI there's got to be  10 or so games each week that are no-brainers.   You can include the over/unders (totals) in the parlay too, but I'm much better at picking the winners (65% vs. 57%) than the over/unders.

The games through September have a lot of pushovers and OOC games that should be easy to cherry pick.

There might be what I would consider 7 or 8 no-brainers in a full season of college football. Certainly not each week and not against the line.  Vegas knows what there are doing.
Let's make some waves.

OldCoot

Ok, what about:

Florida State -10.5 V. Pitt?

Anyone like this game?

My site also has an option to play halves, but I don't know how.  What's this mean?

NCAA FOOTBALL MEN 1ST HALVES FIRST HALF LINES - SEP 02

Sep 02   1219   1H FLORIDA STATE   -6-110   o24½-110           -265
8:12 PM   1220   1H PITTSBURGH U           +6-110      u24½-110           +225

 

Jeff "hogfanintx" Anderson

Quote from: jkstock04 on September 01, 2013, 06:51:29 pm
I did some 3 or 4 game parlays last year betting big...only picking winners and not the spread (if that is what you mean).

It worked every time I did it. Obviously the risk is that lone underdog that you don't forsee like ULM last year or an Appalachian state.

Not sure what you call a no-brainer anyway.

At quick glance Of too 25 teams Oregon St lost outright. Ohio St, Nebraska, Notre Dame did not cover A*M did not cover USC did not cover. Georgia, South Carolina, LSU, Alabama, and Okie St were all one within one TD either way of not covering.

See the point I'm making.

I hit a ten teamer 2 years ago, but put like five bucks on it. Paid like 3500.00. 
Let's make some waves.

Hooch

Quote from: Dude on September 02, 2013, 08:32:47 am
Ok, what about:

Florida State -10.5 V. Pitt?

Anyone like this game?

My site also has an option to play halves, but I don't know how.  What's this mean?

NCAA FOOTBALL MEN 1ST HALVES FIRST HALF LINES - SEP 02

Sep 02   1219   1H FLORIDA STATE   -6-110   o24½-110           -265
8:12 PM   1220   1H PITTSBURGH U           +6-110      u24½-110           +225

Its simply a bet for the 1st half, if Florida state is up by 6 or more they cover the -6 and the over under is 24.5. 

I am leaning toward the over in that game, but I like Florida St. too. 

Huckleberry Pig


WILL CLINTON

Missed all action yesterday until late. Was watching the CU v CSU game and just to make it interesting, I put like 1/2* on CU -.5 in the 2nd half.

I can't find lines for next week yet, and i guess I'll have to wait for the game to finish today.

Really nice weeks this week from a few people.
There is no sacred ground for the conquered.

OldCoot

Quote from: WILL CLINTON on September 02, 2013, 10:48:49 am
Missed all action yesterday until late. Was watching the CU v CSU game and just to make it interesting, I put like 1/2* on CU -.5 in the 2nd half.

I can't find lines for next week yet, and i guess I'll have to wait for the game to finish today.

Really nice weeks this week from a few people.

Lines are out now. My picks are bold. Any comments.

Sep 05   301   FLORIDA ATLANTIC   +20½-110      
    7:30 PM   302   EAST CAROLINA   -20½-110

Sep 06   483   CENTRAL FLORIDA   -24½-110      
    8:00 PM   484   FLORIDA INTL   +24½-110

Sep 07   
305   FLORIDA   -3-105      
    12:00 PM   306   MIAMI FLORIDA   +3-115      
   
Sep 07   307   MIAMI OHIO   +17½-110      
    12:00 PM   308   KENTUCKY   -17½-110      
   
Sep 07   309   SOUTH FLORIDA   +23½-110      
    12:00 PM   310   MICHIGAN STATE   -23½-110      
   
Sep 07   313   OKLAHOMA STATE   -24½-110      
    12:00 PM   314   TEX SAN ANTONIO   +24½-110      
   
Sep 07   315   HOUSTON U   -3-110      
    12:00 PM   316   TEMPLE   +3-110      
   
Sep 07   317   NORTH TEXAS   +5½-110      
    7:00 PM   318   OHIO   -5½-110      
   
Sep 07   319   MIDDLE TENN ST         
    12:30 PM   320   NORTH CAROLINA         
   
Sep 07   321   CINCINNATI U   -7½-110      
    12:00 PM   322   ILLINOIS   +7½-110      
   
Sep 07   323   WEST VIRGINIA   +20½-110      
    7:00 PM   324   OKLAHOMA   -20½-110      
   
Sep 07   325   SOUTH CAROLINA   +3-105      
    4:30 PM   326   GEORGIA   -3-115      
   
Sep 07   327   SAN DIEGO STATE   +27½-110      
    3:30 PM   328   OHIO STATE   -27½-110      
   
Sep 07   329   UTAH STATE   -9½-110      
    3:30 PM   330   AIR FORCE   +9½-110      
   
Sep 07   331   SOUTH ALABAMA   +6-110      
    3:30 PM   332   TULANE   -6-110      
   
Sep 07   333   OREGON   -21½-110      
    3:30 PM   334   VIRGINIA   +21½-110      
   
Sep 07   335   DUKE   -6-110      
    4:30 PM   336   MEMPHIS   +6-110      
   
Sep 07   337   SYRACUSE         
    6:00 PM   338   NORTHWESTERN         
   
Sep 07   339   NAVY   +13-110      
    6:00 PM   340   INDIANA   -13-110      
   
Sep 07   341   SOUTHERN MISS   +28½-110      
    6:00 PM   342   NEBRASKA   -28½-110      
   
Sep 07   343   TEXAS   -7-115      
    7:00 PM   344   BYU   +7-105      
   
Sep 07   345   UAB   +35-110      
    7:00 PM   346   LSU   -35-110      
   
Sep 07   347   TOLEDO   +17½-110      
    3:30 PM   348   MISSOURI   -17½-110      
   
Sep 07   349   COLORADO STATE   +10-110      
    7:00 PM   350   TULSA   -10-110      
   
Sep 07   351   ARKANSAS STATE   +13-110      
    7:30 PM   352   AUBURN   -13-110      
   
Sep 07   353   ARMY   +9-110      
    1:00 PM   354   BALL STATE   -9-110      
   
Sep 07   355   EASTERN MICHIGAN   +22½-110      
    12:00 PM   356   PENN STATE   -22½-110      
   
Sep 07   357   BUFFALO U   +27½-110      
    3:30 PM   358   BAYLOR   -27½-110      
   
Sep 07   359   BOWLING GREEN   -7½-105      
    12:00 PM   360   KENT STATE   +7½-115      
   
Sep 07   361   WESTERN KENTUCKY   +13½-110      
    12:20 PM   362   TENNESSEE U   -13½-110      
   
Sep 07   363   UL LAFAYETTE   +9½-110      
    6:30 PM   364   KANSAS STATE   -9½-110      
   
Sep 07   365   NOTRE DAME   +3½-110      
    8:00 PM   366   MICHIGAN   -3½-110      
   
Sep 07   367   HAWAII   +27-110      
    8:00 PM   368   OREGON STATE   -27-110      
   
Sep 07   369   MINNESOTA U   -16½-110      
    8:00 PM   370   NEW MEXICO STATE   +16½-110      
   
Sep 07   371   IDAHO   +27½-110      
    4:00 PM   372   WYOMING   -27½-110      
   
Sep 07   373   NEW MEXICO         
    8:00 PM   374   UTEP         
   
Sep 07   375   WASHINGTON STATE   +14½-110      
    10:30 PM   376   USC   -14½-110      
   
Sep 07   377   ARIZONA U   -11-110      
    10:30 PM   378   UNLV   +11-110      
   
Sep 07   379   SAN JOSE STATE   +26½-110      
    11:00 PM   380   STANFORD   -26½-110

WILL CLINTON

September 02, 2013, 02:27:20 pm #3179 Last Edit: September 02, 2013, 02:39:02 pm by WILL CLINTON
1* FSU -6.5 1st half

Not a whole lot I like this week. I will be tailing some folks.

I do like Ball St -9, Ok St -24, and Oregon -21.5.

Edit: my book has Ball St the same, OK St -26.5, and Oregon -24

A couple of observations though, everyone saw Or St lose to an FCS team, and saw Hawaii hand with USC for a while, yet the line is Or St -27.5. Also, Toledo lost by 18 to Florida, but the line is Mizzou -17.
There is no sacred ground for the conquered.

Hooch

That Florida line is awful "Hooky". 

If it seems to good to be true......

SPAL

Quote from: Porked Tongue on September 01, 2013, 09:41:49 pm
Long term, playing exotics is a loser for the bettor.  The percentages will eat you up.

For example:

A 2-game parlay(point spread) has a difficulty level of 1 in 4.

Yet the payoff is not even 3:1.

Following along, a 3-game parlay has a difficulty of 8:1 yet pays 5:1.

Exotics might be fun, but the reward to risk factor is horrible.  The key attraction is that you can simply make a single wager with no juice on it in "a shoot for the moon" approach.

This is my thought as well.

SPAL

September 02, 2013, 03:23:59 pm #3182 Last Edit: September 02, 2013, 10:20:17 pm by sir-pigs-a-lot
Fla st. -11    3 units....W


BJOhog

I try to typr this from my phone but it always Changs my words up automqtic
I read all my posts to get were im at I went 4 and 2 but only gained a lil money that vandy game killed me I have 1650 now and I want to play tonight who are you boys leaning on
And anyone have rushing stats on Florida clause I know if you don't get 90 on the ground at pit you lose


BJOhog

I remember now new qb against number inns interception duo in the nation
I'll put three units on the under and one unit on the home dog on the lines listed above I think this Herr phone is smarter than me




Two other things men be careful of parlays look at them as just a lotto ticket and don't take them serious even after you hit one Orr to

Also I read Clintons rules again that boy is right prolly shoukdnt put online ticket numbers on a forum I got to go back and erasemine

Jeff "hogfanintx" Anderson

Played Fl St -10.5 / 2 units
Over 48 for 2 units
Parlay the same way for 1 unit.

I have liked Pitt since way back and hate betting against them.  This one could bite me in the butt, but seems jut too many playmakers for te noles fr me not to take them.
Let's make some waves.

BJOhog

Quote from: Jeff "hogfanintx" Anderson on September 02, 2013, 04:05:12 pm
Played Fl St -10.5 / 2 units
Over 48 for 2 units
Parlay the same way for 1 unit.



I have liked Pitt since way back and hate betting against them.  This one could bite me in the butt, but seems jut too many playmakers for te noles fr me not to take them.

Well we bet opposite but I wish you luck my friend I think it's raining there wet fake grass kills overs at least I hope it does this time I'm not a Florida state hater either I think they have one of the best 5 teams in the dang country

Wait heins field has teal grass

SPAL

Quote from: billyjoeozark on September 02, 2013, 03:45:07 pm
I remember now new qb against number inns interception duo in the nation
I'll put three units on the under and one unit on the home dog on the lines listed above I think this Herr phone is smarter than me




Two other things men be careful of parlays look at them as just a lotto ticket and don't take them serious even after you hit one Orr to

Also I read Clintons rules again that boy is right prolly shoukdnt put online ticket numbers on a forum I got to go back and erasemine

Somewhere in all that grammar and spelling , you have a pretty good mind. Lol

Jeff "hogfanintx" Anderson

Quote from: billyjoeozark on September 02, 2013, 04:07:33 pm
Well we bet opposite but I wish you luck my friend I think it's raining there wet fake grass kills overs at least I hope it does this time I'm not a Florida state hater either I think they have one of the best 5 teams in the dang country

Wait heins field has teal grass

Good luck to you as well.  My heart wanted to bet Pitt, but my head got in the way. Hope my head wins although if Pitt could find a way to win outright it wouldn't hurt my feeling too bad.
Let's make some waves.

Huckleberry Pig

Quote from: Huckleberry Pig on August 31, 2013, 09:09:28 am
TT/SMU Over 59.5 -- 1*  W


Picks today:
LSU -5 -- 3*  W
Georgia -2 -- 1*  L

Went 2-1 on Saturday and hit my 3* bet (max bet for me).  Excited about that. 

Overall Record: 2-1
3*: 1-0
2*: NA
1*: 1-1

Again, I have Florida St. at -10.5 as a 1* bet for tonight

widespreadsooie

FSU/Pitt u49.5

Miami +3 vs. FL next week already locked

One unit on each.

Others I'm looking at are ND/MIC u50, WKU/TN o50, WKU +13.5, Oregon -21.5.

YTD:

Sides: 2-1
Totals: 3-0
Teases: 0-2
Overall: 5-3

+2 Units

BJOhog

Quote from: widespreadsooie on September 02, 2013, 04:43:00 pm
FSU/Pitt u49.5

Miami +3 vs. FL next week already locked

One unit on each.

Others I'm looking at are ND/MIC u50, WKU/TN o50, WKU +13.5, Oregon -21.5.

YTD:

Sides: 2-1
Totals: 3-0
Teases: 0-2
Overall: 5-3

+2 Units

I am big Miami next week will probably put a lit of real money on it waiting to make sure no legal or health problems I like that one man


One other ring guys don't get to emotionally entarwined with wku they still have small slow players I mean I am bog peyrino to just be careful I won't ain't allow myself to get on or againtb them cause I know I'm prejudoicst

Hooch


McKdaddy

Don't buy upgrades, ride up grades.

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BoynamedWooPigSooie

Quote from: Jeff "hogfanintx" Anderson on September 02, 2013, 08:35:53 am
Not sure what you call a no-brainer anyway.

At quick glance Of too 25 teams Oregon St lost outright. Ohio St, Nebraska, Notre Dame did not cover A*M did not cover USC did not cover. Georgia, South Carolina, LSU, Alabama, and Okie St were all one within one TD either way of not covering.

See the point I'm making.

I hit a ten teamer 2 years ago, but put like five bucks on it. Paid like 3500.00.



I understand where you're coming from.  A no-brainer to me is staying away from bad match up games, looking for games where there's a decided advantage towards one team in coaching, talent, scheme, player match ups, or where weather or injuries/suspensions look to make a big impact.  Also I try to stay away from games with small spreads unless I'm really big on the underdog to upset.

Here's the games I chose on my mock parlay.  I'm not naive enough to think I can always pick 10 winners, some weeks there might only be 5 games that have the mix I'm looking for.


I felt really strong about

S.Carolina over UNC by 11
San Jose St. over Sac. St. by 20
Liberty beating the 20 pt. spread against Kent St.
Houston murdering Southern
Arizona over N. Arizona by 31
Michigan blowing the roof off C. Michigan
Arkansas running away from ULL
Murray St. being more terrible than Mizzou
Clemson beating UGA
Texas blowing NMST out
Colorado beating CSU

The only game I included and I thought twice about, I lost and that was Ohio St. not covering against Buffalo.  I felt Buffalo was really bad and Braxton Miller could clown them in the 2nd half.


I'll look at the lines for this week and give an opine about what I see could be easy money.
Hogville's resident uniform designer.

BJOhog

There is a saying for number runers parlays are bets for the dreamers and druggies take it for what it's worth bit um not making this up


I betr En but I play the lotto
If you look at patlays with an healthy attitude like kitties yiy you will be ok

you look at parlays like a chance to make money then you are a dreamer or druggie


OldCoot

Quote from: billyjoeozark on September 02, 2013, 03:31:49 pm
I try to typr this from my phone but it always Changs my words up automqtic
I read all my posts to get were im at I went 4 and 2 but only gained a lil money that vandy game killed me I have 1650 now and I want to play tonight who are you boys leaning on
And anyone have rushing stats on Florida clause I know if you don't get 90 on the ground at pit you lose

Have fl st on the half at -6.5 & straight at -10.5. FWIW.

Huckleberry Pig


Hawgndaaz

Jumping on fsu -10 and over

Won a skin on the course today in the rain so feeling lucky.

BoynamedWooPigSooie

Quote from: billyjoeozark on September 02, 2013, 05:12:32 pm
There is a saying for number runers parlays are bets for the dreamers and druggies take it for what it's worth bit um not making this up


I betr En but I play the lotto
If you look at patlays with an healthy attitude like kitties yiy you will be ok

you look at parlays like a chance to make money then you are a dreamer or druggie


Which is a reason why I'm asking you guys.  I've never been willing to bet parlays, but it's got me intrigued. 
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