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tannerstahl

April 07, 2015, 05:27:28 pm
...on around the horn today by frank isola on ESPN...the question was should the jones kid from duke go pro after his performance in the title game, isola said he should absolutely go, just ask Scotty Thurman

...I'm paraphrasing that segment, if you want the real thing checkout their podcast
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dhornjr1

April 07, 2015, 07:08:09 pm #1
It's sad that Scotty Thurman has become the poster boy for leaving school too early. It seems that no one outside of Arkansas remembers "The Shot" or all the other dagger shots he made in his college career.
 

hogfan2000

April 07, 2015, 07:50:58 pm #2
Quote from: Imminent Rueage on April 07, 2015, 07:08:09 pm
It's sad that Scotty Thurman has become the poster boy for leaving school too early. It seems that no one outside of Arkansas remembers "The Shot" or all the other dagger shots he made in his college career.
i think you are missing the point buddy.   I believe the point the guy was making is that Thurman should have struck while the iron was hot and went to the NBA after making the game winner, instead he came back to school and we know the ending. 

The_Bionic_Pig

April 07, 2015, 07:53:07 pm #3
Quote from: hogfan2000 on April 07, 2015, 07:50:58 pm
i think you are missing the point buddy.   I believe the point the guy was making is that Thurman should have struck while the iron was hot and went to the NBA after making the game winner, instead he came back to school and we know the ending. 

That was exactly his point +1
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Marshfieldhog

April 07, 2015, 10:04:31 pm #4
So let me get this right.

He would have been drafted high because he made a game winning shot to win it all? So the following year he went bust because he helped lead his team to the title game only to lose to UCLA?

What did he do wrong his Junior year that NBA scouts would have ran from him? Who is to say if he left after the Duke game that is stock would be tumbled before the draft? Then what? He would have been a year farther from graduating.

I think he did alright for himself, has a nice radio gig. I just don't see how his Junior year totally screwed him. You are either an NBA prospect or your not.

PonderinHog

April 07, 2015, 10:31:58 pm #5
Quote from: Marshfieldhog on April 07, 2015, 10:04:31 pm
So let me get this right.

He would have been drafted high because he made a game winning shot to win it all? So the following year he went bust because he helped lead his team to the title game only to lose to UCLA?

What did he do wrong his Junior year that NBA scouts would have ran from him? Who is to say if he left after the Duke game that is stock would be tumbled before the draft? Then what? He would have been a year farther from graduating.

I think he did alright for himself, has a nice radio gig. I just don't see how his Junior year totally screwed him. You are either an NBA prospect or your not.
Scotty was a "hot commodity"after his sophomore year.  The extra year just gave the evaluators more time to critique his game.

ErieHog

April 07, 2015, 10:36:19 pm #6
Quote from: Marshfieldhog on April 07, 2015, 10:04:31 pm
So let me get this right.

He would have been drafted high because he made a game winning shot to win it all? So the following year he went bust because he helped lead his team to the title game only to lose to UCLA?

What did he do wrong his Junior year that NBA scouts would have ran from him? Who is to say if he left after the Duke game that is stock would be tumbled before the draft? Then what? He would have been a year farther from graduating.

I think he did alright for himself, has a nice radio gig. I just don't see how his Junior year totally screwed him. You are either an NBA prospect or your not.

What did he do wrong?  He got a year older, and gave them even more game tape to evaluate his lateral quickness against good players.  His scoring, shooting, rebounding, and assist rates fell across the board, and he turned it over significantly more.

It knocked him from being a draftable guy, to out of the draft.
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dhornjr1

April 07, 2015, 11:22:42 pm #7
Quote from: hogfan2000 on April 07, 2015, 07:50:58 pm
i think you are missing the point buddy.   I believe the point the guy was making is that Thurman should have struck while the iron was hot and went to the NBA after making the game winner, instead he came back to school and we know the ending. 

Ah, okay. I thought it was a sarcastic remark about how Thurman turned pro too early. I hear that a lot.

jgphillips3

April 08, 2015, 01:39:38 am #8
We need to remember that players just didn't leave as sophomores back then.  In fact, they very rarely left as juniors or at least had only started leaving as juniors just a few years before that.

Hogimus Prime

April 08, 2015, 02:06:47 am #9
Quote from: ErieHog on April 07, 2015, 10:36:19 pm
What did he do wrong?  He got a year older, and gave them even more game tape to evaluate his lateral quickness against good players.  His scoring, shooting, rebounding, and assist rates fell across the board, and he turned it over significantly more.

It knocked him from being a draftable guy, to out of the draft.

Thurman also put on some bad weight which slowed him down a bit.
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