Wednesday bits

[The Recruiting Guy]

http://www.wholehogsports.com/news/2015/jan/14/we/

[Hawgzinbowlz]

Good to hear that safety Reid Miller of Bradenton, (Fla.) IMG Academy will report to Arkansas on Friday.
He's had a 4.0 GPA since the ninth grade.
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I'm keeping an eye on Mr. Miller. He may be a 'diamond in the rough'.

" GO HOGS "

[ldfergu]

This is my possible secret visitor guess:

http://247sports.com/Player/Derrick-Dillon-29626

[PorkRinds]

Thomas is still scheduling visits, so it sounds like he will likely be staying.

[ldfergu]

Thomas is still scheduling visits, so it sounds like he will likely be staying.

When CBB addressed the Philon and Chaney departures he didn't mention them so I think they're both staying

[Wildhog]

Thomas is still scheduling visits, so it sounds like he will likely be staying.

He's been here three recruiting cycles, and (will have) signed one player, whose only other offer was Duke.

[PorkRinds]

He's been here three recruiting cycles, and (will have) signed one player, whose only other offer was Duke.

He and partridge recruited Alex Collins.  247 gives him at least partial credit for RWIII, Juan Day, Denzel Evans, and DJ Dean. 

http://247sports.com/Coach/Joel-Thomas-733/AllTimeRecruits

[RazorBassin]

Thanks RD!  As always, great work!  +1

[ldfergu]

He and partridge recruited Alex Collins.  247 gives him at least partial credit for RWIII, Juan Day, Denzel Evans, and DJ Dean. 

http://247sports.com/Coach/Joel-Thomas-733/AllTimeRecruits

Still pretty weak.  AC had a relationship with Partridge and Coach B before Arkansas. 

[Wildhog]

He and partridge recruited Alex Collins.  247 gives him at least partial credit for RWIII, Juan Day, Denzel Evans, and DJ Dean. 

http://247sports.com/Coach/Joel-Thomas-733/AllTimeRecruits

Partridge was the lead with AC and Bielema closed the deal.

JT automatically gets credit for any RB recruit on the recruiting services.  IIRC, DJ Dean was mostly Ash, but JT did play a role, I guess.

RW3 is the only one he was the lead on.



We are Arkansas.  Running Back U.  No reason we can't do better than that.

[Bubba's Bruisers]

Yeah, we are a program that needs every single assistant to be a quality recruiter with a couple as aces.

[hawg1221]

This is my possible secret visitor guess:

http://247sports.com/Player/Derrick-Dillon-29626

Wow! You're already smoking? You just had coffee.  Kidding...

I think it's the Louisiana LB that's committed to Arizona.  Forgot his name but we were recruiting him.

[WooPig90]

Wow! You're already smoking? You just had coffee.  Kidding...

I think it's the Louisiana LB that's committed to Arizona.  Forgot his name but we were recruiting him.

Kendrick Jackson? Thats what im thinking too

[ldfergu]

Dillons name was kicked around a bit two weeks ago. Not sure if there was any substance to it

[ldfergu]

Dillon really isn't a stretch. If he didn't want to come here I'd be a bit surprised to see him stick with UF.  He's the top ranked kid in a class that currently consists of 8 recruits. 8. Signing day is approaching fast and UF is gonna be grasping at straws

[ZERO]

Does Florida really only have eight recruits committed? That seems highly odd.

[Wildhog]

Does Florida really only have eight recruits committed?

Yep.

[WriterWrong]

Personally, I don't understand the secret recruit thing. Maybe some of these kids don't want their name out there because they're afraid the school they're committed to will turn their back on them.

It just seems to me, that if a kid is committed and visiting other schools, the team he is committed to should just show them how bad they want them by continuing to recruit them. If a school pulls an offer because the kid visited another school, apparently that school didn't want them very bad in the first place. Why is that a bad thing for the kid to figure out?

Can anybody give me some logical reasons why visitors are kept secret? I just don't see any good reasons.

[PorkRinds]

Personally, I don't understand the secret recruit thing. Maybe some of these kids don't want their name out there because they're afraid the school they're committed to will turn their back on them.

It just seems to me, that if a kid is committed and visiting other schools, the team he is committed to should just show them how bad they want them by continuing to recruit them. If a school pulls an offer because the kid visited another school, apparently that school didn't want them very bad in the first place. Why is that a bad thing for the kid to figure out?

Can anybody give me some logical reasons why visitors are kept secret? I just don't see any good reasons.

They don't want to deal with the backlash.  Some kids don't enjoy the public display part of it, and some do.

[HoggusMaximus]

Partridge was the lead with AC and Bielema closed the deal.

JT automatically gets credit for any RB recruit on the recruiting services.  IIRC, DJ Dean was mostly Ash, but JT did play a role, I guess.

RW3 is the only one he was the lead on.



We are Arkansas.  Running Back U.  No reason we can't do better than that.

The Running Back U title is highly debatable.

[Oklahawg]

Can anybody give me some logical reasons why visitors are kept secret? I just don't see any good reasons.

Two come to mind right now.

1. The player gets to get the visit started before the press hits and they deflect some of the pressure from folks back home and the school to whom they are committed.
2. The recruiting school (UA in this case) does not have to worry about scaring off another recruit.

So, scenario #1: Bob is committed to Colorado. All Bob's friends are either CU fans, like skiing, going to CU themselves, or similar. Bob doesn't want to have them in his ear until he has a chance to see, unfiltered, how UA stacks up against them.

Scenario #1a: CU might threaten to pull Bob's offer if he visits elsewhere. Bob would rather have a known offer to a school he likes rather than risk it. He takes the visit as secretly as possible so he can not worry about that. (OF course, CU eventually is going to find out anyway...)

Scenario #2: UA needs 4 linebackers, but at least one of the targets wants to be the Prima, the alpha LB recruit. By not announcing the others who are visiting the alpha recruit doesn't feel like they are sharing the spotlight. Once on the visit the alpha recruit gets to mingle with the others and everything calms down.

Scenario #2a: can even be, "you are our only LB recruit this weekend, you are the only target". Bob is a LB recruit to CU, LSU, and Western KY, but for UA he would be a TE. The LB recruits might not buy that but when they see Bob hanging out with TEs, getting a TE jersey for the locker room picture, and talking to the TE position coach he is cool with it.

Help?

[sowmonella]

Two come to mind right now.

1. The player gets to get the visit started before the press hits and they deflect some of the pressure from folks back home and the school to whom they are committed.
2. The recruiting school (UA in this case) does not have to worry about scaring off another recruit.

So, scenario #1: Bob is committed to Colorado. All Bob's friends are either CU fans, like skiing, going to CU themselves, or similar. Bob doesn't want to have them in his ear until he has a chance to see, unfiltered, how UA stacks up against them.

Scenario #1a: CU might threaten to pull Bob's offer if he visits elsewhere. Bob would rather have a known offer to a school he likes rather than risk it. He takes the visit as secretly as possible so he can not worry about that. (OF course, CU eventually is going to find out anyway...)

Scenario #2: UA needs 4 linebackers, but at least one of the targets wants to be the Prima, the alpha LB recruit. By not announcing the others who are visiting the alpha recruit doesn't feel like they are sharing the spotlight. Once on the visit the alpha recruit gets to mingle with the others and everything calms down.

Scenario #2a: can even be, "you are our only LB recruit this weekend, you are the only target". Bob is a LB recruit to CU, LSU, and Western KY, but for UA he would be a TE. The LB recruits might not buy that but when they see Bob hanging out with TEs, getting a TE jersey for the locker room picture, and talking to the TE position coach he is cool with it.

Help?

How many stars does Bob rate?

[WriterWrong]

Two come to mind right now.

1. The player gets to get the visit started before the press hits and they deflect some of the pressure from folks back home and the school to whom they are committed.
2. The recruiting school (UA in this case) does not have to worry about scaring off another recruit.

So, scenario #1: Bob is committed to Colorado. All Bob's friends are either CU fans, like skiing, going to CU themselves, or similar. Bob doesn't want to have them in his ear until he has a chance to see, unfiltered, how UA stacks up against them.

Scenario #1a: CU might threaten to pull Bob's offer if he visits elsewhere. Bob would rather have a known offer to a school he likes rather than risk it. He takes the visit as secretly as possible so he can not worry about that. (OF course, CU eventually is going to find out anyway...)

Scenario #2: UA needs 4 linebackers, but at least one of the targets wants to be the Prima, the alpha LB recruit. By not announcing the others who are visiting the alpha recruit doesn't feel like they are sharing the spotlight. Once on the visit the alpha recruit gets to mingle with the others and everything calms down.

Scenario #2a: can even be, "you are our only LB recruit this weekend, you are the only target". Bob is a LB recruit to CU, LSU, and Western KY, but for UA he would be a TE. The LB recruits might not buy that but when they see Bob hanging out with TEs, getting a TE jersey for the locker room picture, and talking to the TE position coach he is cool with it.

Help?

Well said.

My thought process is, the Hogs want KJ Hill really bad.
KJ is going to visit Florida.
The Hogs aren't going to pull his offer because he went on a visit. If anything, it forces the Hogs to recruit him harder and show KJ just how bad they want him.
In the end, KJ gets to make his mind up regardless if UA knows he went on a visit or not.


It would be interesting to find out how many Razorback recruits are "silent visitors" at other schools. It's not like we're the only one this happens with. Would we freak out more if KJ was taking a silent visit to Florida instead of an official? Just a thought that came to mind.

[The_Boot_stops_here]

The Running Back U title is highly debatable.

Doesn't matter if its debatable.  Its a strong selling point to a kid.  ESPN said it so it must be true.

[Wildhog]

The Running Back U title is highly debatable.

The rest of it isn't.  JT is dead weight.

[ldfergu]

I have no idea why KJ would want to take an official to UF in it's current state

[ricepig]

I have no idea why KJ would want to take an official to UF in it's current state

He's going to Bama for a visit.

[ldfergu]

He's going to Bama for a visit.

I know that. I think a couple posts up they were talking hypotheticals and mentioned KJ visiting UF. I may have misinterpreted

[Oklahawg]

How many stars does Bob rate?

Doesn't matter, CU is recruiting him and they are horrible so we must not want him

[pigture perfect]

Thomas is still scheduling visits, so it sounds like he will likely be staying.

Another thread is showing that his new contract has been amended and signed. He's ours.

[Steef]

SIAP

Seems to me, a secret recruit is encouraging.

Committed kids who keep visiting publicly...we always say "well, he's just enjoying the free trip".

Which may or may not be true.

But if he isn't wanting anyone to know, that isn't a joyride. He's actually at least entertaining a flip.

Just a guess.

[mhuff]

SIAP

Seems to me, a secret recruit is encouraging.

Committed kids who keep visiting publicly...we always say "well, he's just enjoying the free trip".

Which may or may not be true.

But if he isn't wanting anyone to know, that isn't a joyride. He's actually at least entertaining a flip.

Just a guess.

You got my vote

[WriterWrong]

SIAP

Seems to me, a secret recruit is encouraging.

Committed kids who keep visiting publicly...we always say "well, he's just enjoying the free trip".

Which may or may not be true.

But if he isn't wanting anyone to know, that isn't a joyride. He's actually at least entertaining a flip.

Just a guess.

I like this theory.

[hoglady]

I must have missed something.
I thought Graham was coming this weekend on his own dime.
Is that not happening?

[WBC Hog]

Sneaky RD. Trying to slip that secret prospect committed elsewhere in at the very end.

Please let it be Holton Hill!

[OneTuskOverTheLine™]

This is my possible secret visitor guess:

http://247sports.com/Player/Derrick-Dillon-29626

Mine is Hauton..(sp?)

[jjdlc]

I must have missed something.
I thought Graham was coming this weekend on his own dime.
Is that not happening?

Unless something changed, as of today it was being reported that he was still coming.

[redeye]

SIAP

Seems to me, a secret recruit is encouraging.

Committed kids who keep visiting publicly...we always say "well, he's just enjoying the free trip".

Which may or may not be true.

But if he isn't wanting anyone to know, that isn't a joyride. He's actually at least entertaining a flip.

Just a guess.

You can add my vote also.

[hoglady]

Unless something changed, as of today it was being reported that he was still coming.

Thanks - when I didn't see that mentioned in the article I was wondering if things had changed.

[ldfergu]

Mine is Hauton..(sp?)

RD stated it's a recruit committed to an SEC school. Haughton is an Oklahoma commit