Think we have troubles?

[MuskogeeHogFan]

It is interesting that things at Ole Miss continue to get worse. You may have read over in the SEC forum that two of their defensive players (DB & LB) that they were counting on for this fall, were arrested for shoplifting in the last day or two. That "us against them" motivation that they are using down there must translate to the merchants in the area as well. It's just unbelievable how things are just falling apart down there.

https://www.saturdaydownsouth.com/ole-miss-football/report-two-ole-miss-players-arrested-shoplifting/

And then, LSU RT/RG Maea Teuhema, was given his release apparently because of academic issues. He played in 12 games and started 10 last year mostly at RT and started 11 games the previous season at LG. He was expected to start at RG. He's looking for a place to transfer. He will likely be replaced by R/Fr Lloyd Cushenberry.

I can't confirm immediately but according to some LSU fans he makes the 5th O-Lineman to transfer since the end of last season and leaves them with only 11 scholarship O-Linemen.

https://articles.nola.com/lsu/index.ssf/2017/08/offensive_lineman_maea_teuhema.amp

At least we aren't the only ones having issues.

[Suidae Suis Scrofa]

Ole Miss also suspended an experienced TE yesterday.  Violation of team rules.

https://www.saturdaydownsouth.com/ole-miss-football/ole-miss-announces-indefinite-suspension-te-octavious-cooley/

-phil

[Steef]

It is interesting that things at Ole Miss continue to get worse. You may have read over in the SEC forum that two of their defensive players (DB & LB) that they were counting on for this fall, were arrested for shoplifting in the last day or two. That "us against them" motivation that they are using down there must translate to the merchants in the area as well. It's just unbelievable how things are just falling apart down there.

https://www.saturdaydownsouth.com/ole-miss-football/report-two-ole-miss-players-arrested-shoplifting/

And then, LSU RT/RG Maea Teuhema, was given his release apparently because of academic issues. He played in 12 games and started 10 last year mostly at RT and started 11 games the previous season at LG. He was expected to start at RG. He's looking for a place to transfer. He will likely be replaced by R/Fr Lloyd Cushenberry.

I can't confirm immediately but according to some LSU fans he makes the 5th O-Lineman to transfer since the end of last season and leaves them with only 11 scholarship O-Linemen.

https://articles.nola.com/lsu/index.ssf/2017/08/offensive_lineman_maea_teuhema.amp

At least we aren't the only ones having issues.

Those two players have been suspended indefinitely.

Or until the season starts, whichever comes first.

[DoubleReedHawgCaller]

Ole Miss also suspended an experienced TE yesterday.  Violation of team rules.

https://www.saturdaydownsouth.com/ole-miss-football/ole-miss-announces-indefinite-suspension-te-octavious-cooley/

-phil

They have team rules now? Interesting.....

[Poker_hog]

This will be ole miss's john el smith year. 

[Porked Tongue]

It's like Amazon for the Dallas Cowboys.

[MuskogeeHogFan]

Those two players have been suspended indefinitely.

Or until the season starts, whichever comes first.

Ehhh, the melt down continues at Ole Miss.

What I was surprised about was LSU losing 5 O-Linemen to transfer since last season. Imagine the melt down on Hogville if all we had was 11 scholarship O-Linemen on the roster?

[longpig]

Ehhh, the melt down continues at Ole Miss.

What I was surprised about was LSU losing 5 O-Linemen to transfer since last season. Imagine the melt down on Hogville if all we had was 11 scholarship O-Linemen on the roster?

That's about the number of QBs they've been keeping on the roster. 

[Steef]

Ehhh, the melt down continues at Ole Miss.

What I was surprised about was LSU losing 5 O-Linemen to transfer since last season. Imagine the melt down on Hogville if all we had was 11 scholarship O-Linemen on the roster?

True.

But LSU can just run down to the nearest maximum security prison and get more linemen. We can't.

[MuskogeeHogFan]

True.

But LSU can just run down to the nearest maximum security prison and get more linemen. We can't.

[Vantage 8 dude]

It is interesting that things at Ole Miss continue to get worse. You may have read over in the SEC forum that two of their defensive players (DB & LB) that they were counting on for this fall, were arrested for shoplifting in the last day or two. That "us against them" motivation that they are using down there must translate to the merchants in the area as well. It's just unbelievable how things are just falling apart down there.

https://www.saturdaydownsouth.com/ole-miss-football/report-two-ole-miss-players-arrested-shoplifting/

And then, LSU RT/RG Maea Teuhema, was given his release apparently because of academic issues. He played in 12 games and started 10 last year mostly at RT and started 11 games the previous season at LG. He was expected to start at RG. He's looking for a place to transfer. He will likely be replaced by R/Fr Lloyd Cushenberry.

I can't confirm immediately but according to some LSU fans he makes the 5th O-Lineman to transfer since the end of last season and leaves them with only 11 scholarship O-Linemen.

https://articles.nola.com/lsu/index.ssf/2017/08/offensive_lineman_maea_teuhema.amp

At least we aren't the only ones having issues.

Heck, knowing at least some of the mess that has been going on at OM perhaps some of these players are looking for ANY excuse to get suspended/kicked off the team. Wouldn't necessarily doubt it.

[Tusks]

With LSU's troubles Im starting to see 11-1 for the Hogs.

[FraggleHog]

The inmates are beginning to run the prison down there...

[GolfnHog]

 

The inmates are beginning to run the prison down there...

The word "beginning" had no purpose in that sentence

[FraggleHog]

The word "beginning" had no purpose in that sentence

The inmates are beginning to running the prison down there...

FIFY

[MuskogeeHogFan]

With LSU's troubles I starting to see 11-1 for the Hogs.

I'm not sure what the Media sees in them for this year. Sure, LSU has had great recruiting classes but...

they lose about 75% of their career starts out of the Secondary, 82% from the D-Line and 69% of their career starts at LB and that is assuming that Arden Key eventually returns.

Now they have problems with depth at the very least on their O-Line where they lose 69% of their career starts (returning just 2 OL starters and neither at Center).

They lose 79% of their career starts at WR along with 58% of their receiving yard and 50% of their receiving TD's.

We know how they have had problems at QB in the past so the lone bright spot for them is that they return all but one of their RB's from last year and 68% of their RB rushing yards.

But that's just about where the bright spot ends.

Of course they will have 9 games to get ready for us and gain experience but the bad news for them is that they could be beat up by the time they get to us with Florida, Auburn, Ole Miss, and an Open Date in October and then Alabama the week before we meet.

They could easily have 3-4 losses before they get to us.

[sowmonella]

It is interesting that things at Ole Miss continue to get worse. You may have read over in the SEC forum that two of their defensive players (DB & LB) that they were counting on for this fall, were arrested for shoplifting in the last day or two. That "us against them" motivation that they are using down there must translate to the merchants in the area as well. It's just unbelievable how things are just falling apart down there.

https://www.saturdaydownsouth.com/ole-miss-football/report-two-ole-miss-players-arrested-shoplifting/

And then, LSU RT/RG Maea Teuhema, was given his release apparently because of academic issues. He played in 12 games and started 10 last year mostly at RT and started 11 games the previous season at LG. He was expected to start at RG. He's looking for a place to transfer. He will likely be replaced by R/Fr Lloyd Cushenberry.

I can't confirm immediately but according to some LSU fans he makes the 5th O-Lineman to transfer since the end of last season and leaves them with only 11 scholarship O-Linemen.

https://articles.nola.com/lsu/index.ssf/2017/08/offensive_lineman_maea_teuhema.amp

At least we aren't the only ones having issues.

I think Ole Miss is just trying to reduce their payroll.

[MuskogeeHogFan]

I think Ole Miss is just trying to reduce their payroll.

Ha, Ha! Could be.

[King Kong]

This will be ole miss's john el smith year.

Historically those are good seasons for Ole Piss

[MuskogeeHogFan]

Historically those are good seasons for Ole Piss

They are falling apart. Wait until the lose their first two games and start pointing fingers at each other. They may reach a level of "nuclear fission".

[daBoar]

We know how they have had problems at QB in the past so the lone bright spot for them is that they return all but one of their RB's from last year and 68% of their RB rushing yards.

Yes, Guice is still running.

[MuskogeeHogFan]

Yes, Guice is still running.

Let's see how far he can run with a depleted O-Line blocking for him.

[CFB_Fanatic]

Let's see how far he can run with a depleted O-Line blocking for him.

If that's the case, it will look a lot like our running game last year

[Vantage 8 dude]

It is interesting that things at Ole Miss continue to get worse. You may have read over in the SEC forum that two of their defensive players (DB & LB) that they were counting on for this fall, were arrested for shoplifting in the last day or two. That "us against them" motivation that they are using down there must translate to the merchants in the area as well. It's just unbelievable how things are just falling apart down there.

https://www.saturdaydownsouth.com/ole-miss-football/report-two-ole-miss-players-arrested-shoplifting/

And then, LSU RT/RG Maea Teuhema, was given his release apparently because of academic issues. He played in 12 games and started 10 last year mostly at RT and started 11 games the previous season at LG. He was expected to start at RG. He's looking for a place to transfer. He will likely be replaced by R/Fr Lloyd Cushenberry.

I can't confirm immediately but according to some LSU fans he makes the 5th O-Lineman to transfer since the end of last season and leaves them with only 11 scholarship O-Linemen.

https://articles.nola.com/lsu/index.ssf/2017/08/offensive_lineman_maea_teuhema.amp

At least we aren't the only ones having issues.

Well at least up to this point our only real issues have been some injuries. Not that these are wanted or needed, however, at least they aren't problems with kids doing something stupid or getting in trouble with the law. If we begin to have kids on the blotter then I think we have far deeper troubles.

[theFlyingHog]

If that's the case, it will look a lot like our running game last year

It's sad that we have this crap on a Razorback message board.

[MuskogeeHogFan]

If that's the case, it will look a lot like our running game last year

https://youtu.be/Xyh-JpWdGmQ

[HamSammich]

The inmates are beginning to running the prison s##t-hole down there...

Fify cent

[havok]

I would say Ole Miss appears to be one Big Ole Dumpster Fire... but I am Betting Ole Miss Fans think a Dumpster Fire would look pretty good compared to what it really is...

[hoggusamoungus]

'Bama has an issue but I guess if you are just in control of the car and not driving, the DUI doesn't count.

http://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/20239993/alabama-crimson-tide-dl-dashawn-hand-suspended-dui-arrest

[12247]

Best we just think about our team and let the rest of the SEC worry about their teams.  Unfortunately the easiest way for us to get better fast is for the competition to get worse. 

I would guess that if LSU has only 11 O-linemen on scholly, we are about to see if they have any coaches that can coach.

I just want us well coached, trained up and ready to go.  That will put us in decent position.

[Yamahog]

They are falling apart. Wait until the lose their first two games and start pointing fingers at each other. They may reach a level of "nuclear fission".

Interesting observation. What happens when "critical mass" is reached?

[Hollywood_HOGan45]

I'm not sure what the Media sees in them for this year. Sure, LSU has had great recruiting classes but...

they lose about 75% of their career starts out of the Secondary, 82% from the D-Line and 69% of their career starts at LB and that is assuming that Arden Key eventually returns.

Now they have problems with depth at the very least on their O-Line where they lose 69% of their career starts (returning just 2 OL starters and neither at Center).

They lose 79% of their career starts at WR along with 58% of their receiving yard and 50% of their receiving TD's.

We know how they have had problems at QB in the past so the lone bright spot for them is that they return all but one of their RB's from last year and 68% of their RB rushing yards.

But that's just about where the bright spot ends.

Of course they will have 9 games to get ready for us and gain experience but the bad news for them is that they could be beat up by the time they get to us with Florida, Auburn, Ole Miss, and an Open Date in October and then Alabama the week before we meet.

They could easily have 3-4 losses before they get to us.

LSU will always get hype no matter what. They have a coach that doesn't know which way is up.

I'm not buying LSU hype this year. Auburn and Bama will have their way with them. I'm not sure why you would hire a head coach that couldn't win a conference game at his previous stop in the SEC.

[Sivad]

I would say Ole Miss appears to be one Big Ole Dumpster Fire.

It do.

[MuskogeeHogFan]

Interesting observation. What happens when "critical mass" is reached?

As I am sure you know, you have to reach the level of "fission" before it can become a situation involving self sustainability, which then proceeds to "critical mass". If we have "fission" as Ole Miss, we probably also attain, "critical mass". They are well on their way. Put on your goggles and observe.

[Hoginsavga]

Maybe I can be considered a little strange but I don't get a lot of enjoyment seeing our opponents experiencing these issues with players. I simply don't like the demise of character that is going on with college athletes and has been going on for years. The assaults, rapes, robberies, theft, etc. has absolutely no place in college sports or for that matter in society in general.

I want to see the Hogs win or lose against clean programs. I want to see coaches held accountable for the misdeeds of their actions and the actions of the players. I don't have the answer for today's behavior but, at the same time, I get no satisfaction from seeing college sports rife with thugs on other teams. The saddest part is some coaches will tolerate thugs and criminals just to get an extra win or two.

I know it's virtually impossible to control a hundred or so college athletes but my hats off to CBB for his approach to this issue.   

[HogFoo]

i had a buddy i was speaking with.  And we were just doing our preseason talk on what our predictions for season.  which when we got to the Ole Piss game... he was kind of thinking that it might make them harder to beat.. kind of like a wounded bear or something...  and im like.. well, maybe, if they hadnt any other incidents.. it might be harder to beat them.. but more and more keeps piling on for them and i suspect it will truly be a mess by the time we play them. 

As for LSU.  man, they can just walk outside and spit and probably hit three 4* players .  after Lsu fires Ogeron, and they will.  he wont last more than 2 or 3 years.  he'll probably do the same as he did at ole miss.  even with better talent.  sorry, but he's just not a great head coach.  I worry, that they'll get someone like Chip Kelly or Petrino.   i just cant imagine how hard it would be to beat a team that just had talent oooozing out the arse like Lsu, or texas, or florida, or usc, etc..etc..  everyone knows he hated recruiting. so for him to be at a school where he wouldnt have to recruit.  man, he would pretty much be unbeatable.  Thank goodness we dont have to worry about it. 

  but yeah,  i predict lsu a win... as well as ole miss..  in fact, i am going to tell you guys my prediction.  We WILL win 10games this year.   mark it down... it bothers me that we lost TJ and Bell already, i was really really counting on TJ to be a great player this year..  but, i am gonna predict that we get 10wins plus a bowl win. for an 11win season.    i am gonna take a leap of faith on Anderson that he gets it done with our OL.  If he does, i believe our move to 3-4 will totally change things for us.  Our defense will be the best we've had since ''the triangle' with philon, flowers, spaight.   

As long as we dont have any other major injuries, i really believe that we'll have a pretty good season. And we will be undefeated come the bama game.

[blu]

Maybe I can be considered a little strange but I don't get a lot of enjoyment seeing our opponents experiencing these issues with players. I simply don't like the demise of character that is going on with college athletes and has been going on for years. The assaults, rapes, robberies, theft, etc. has absolutely no place in college sports or for that matter in society in general.

I want to see the Hogs win or lose against clean programs. I want to see coaches held accountable for the misdeeds of their actions and the actions of the players. I don't have the answer for today's behavior but, at the same time, I get no satisfaction from seeing college sports rife with thugs on other teams. The saddest part is some coaches will tolerate thugs and criminals just to get an extra win or two.

I know it's virtually impossible to control a hundred or so college athletes but my hats off to CBB for his approach to this issue.   

You may not remember Lou Holtz's first season and his "do the right thing" rule - and he did. We've had plenty of issues in our history. I believe we had a student athlete suspended from our bowl game last season. It has heppened and it will continue to happen. We just expect our coaches to take the right actions when issues arise.

[OneTuskOverTheLine™]

Interesting observation. What happens when "critical mass" is reached?

Starkville really will look like Vegas when they tap into that reactor.!!

[East Clintwood]

True.

But LSU can just run down to the nearest maximum security prison and get more linemen. We can't.

So you're saying we're at a disadvantage in our prisons too?

[Maximus Tusk]

Those two players have been suspended indefinitely.

Or until the season starts, whichever comes first.

Well played sir...

[Inhogswetrust]

So you're saying we're at a disadvantage in our prisons too?

As a state Arkansas has one of the highest incarceration rates per capita..................................not sure if that's an advantage or disadvantage though!

[Michael_E_Davis]

It is interesting that things at Ole Miss continue to get worse. You may have read over in the SEC forum that two of their defensive players (DB & LB) that they were counting on for this fall, were arrested for shoplifting in the last day or two. That "us against them" motivation that they are using down there must translate to the merchants in the area as well. It's just unbelievable how things are just falling apart down there.

https://www.saturdaydownsouth.com/ole-miss-football/report-two-ole-miss-players-arrested-shoplifting/

And then, LSU RT/RG Maea Teuhema, was given his release apparently because of academic issues. He played in 12 games and started 10 last year mostly at RT and started 11 games the previous season at LG. He was expected to start at RG. He's looking for a place to transfer. He will likely be replaced by R/Fr Lloyd Cushenberry.

I can't confirm immediately but according to some LSU fans he makes the 5th O-Lineman to transfer since the end of last season and leaves them with only 11 scholarship O-Linemen.

https://articles.nola.com/lsu/index.ssf/2017/08/offensive_lineman_maea_teuhema.amp

At least we aren't the only ones having issues.

I didn't know we were having issues -  except for some injuries.  What issues are you talking about?

[MuskogeeHogFan]

I didn't know we were having issues -  except for some injuries.  What issues are you talking about?

That is what I was speaking of with regard to the Hogs, but as you know, I was primarily focusing on two other teams.

[Hoggish1]

Ole Miss also suspended an experienced TE yesterday.  Violation of team rules.

https://www.saturdaydownsouth.com/ole-miss-football/ole-miss-announces-indefinite-suspension-te-octavious-cooley/

-phil

?  They have team rules...?

[Inhogswetrust]

?  They have team rules...?

The list would fit on the head of a pin and still have a lot of empty space.  You need a microscope to read it.

[Steef]

So you're saying we're at a disadvantage in our prisons too?

Well....yeah. Duh.

When it comes to felonies like assault (kicking unconscious guys in the head in the parking lot of a bar...comes to mind) Louisiana has a much more generous, revolving door policy of wrist slapping athletes right before a game.

Arkansas otoh...keeps displaying an archaic stubborness to....well....punish people. Not JUST felons. Shoot....missing practice can get you benched.

[MuskogeeHogFan]

Well....yeah. Duh.

When it comes to felonies like assault (kicking unconscious guys in the head in the parking lot of a bar...comes to mind) Louisiana has a much more generous, revolving door policy of wrist slapping athletes right before a game.

Arkansas otoh...keeps displaying an archaic stubborness to....well....punish people. Not JUST felons. Shoot....missing practice can get you benched.

In other news regarding disciplinary action of those who have been arrested:

The question was thrown the way of Saban and he noted that Hand will not serve a suspension, as long as he meets the conditions that are handed down to him.

"If he does everything he's supposed to do he will not be suspended" - Nick Saban on Da'Shawn Hand

That is sure to ease the minds of everyone who believes that Nick Saban is not harsh enough when it comes to disciplining his players. Yes, that's sarcasm. But the truth of the matter is, it was very unlikely Hand was going to serve a suspension once it was learned that he was in fact not driving the car, but sleeping at the wheel of it when it was off and parked.

Saban did say that he will be punished severely, circling back to the aforementioned conditions that he will have to meet. But as far as missing time on the field, that won't be the case this time around.

https://fansided.com/2017/08/03/nick-saban-da-shawn-hand-no-suspension-dui/

[Hog N Bama]

'Bama has an issue but I guess if you are just in control of the car and not driving, the DUI doesn't count.

http://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/20239993/alabama-crimson-tide-dl-dashawn-hand-suspended-dui-arrest

Ya'll didn't REALLY think this was going to count did you?

[McKdaddy]

Yes

[MuskogeeHogFan]

Yes

How about these guys?

I'm not sure what the Media sees in them for this year. Sure, LSU has had great recruiting classes but...

they lose about 75% of their career starts out of the Secondary, 82% from the D-Line and 69% of their career starts at LB and that is assuming that Arden Key eventually returns.

Now they have problems with depth at the very least on their O-Line where they lose 69% of their career starts (returning just 2 OL starters and neither at Center).

They lose 79% of their career starts at WR along with 58% of their receiving yard and 50% of their receiving TD's.

We know how they have had problems at QB in the past so the lone bright spot for them is that they return all but one of their RB's from last year and 68% of their RB rushing yards.

But that's just about where the bright spot ends.

Of course they will have 9 games to get ready for us and gain experience but the bad news for them is that they could be beat up by the time they get to us with Florida, Auburn, Ole Miss, and an Open Date in October and then Alabama the week before we meet.

They could easily have 3-4 losses before they get to us.