Scout's Top 25 recruiting classes for 2017

[Suidae Suis Scrofa]

http://www.si.com/college-football/2017/01/23/college-football-recruiting-top-25-2017-classes

There are nine SEC schools in the top 25.

-phil

[Andrew Hogfan]

That's disheartening

[Bubba's Bruisers]

Only 9?

[Youngsta71701]

We always finish in the middle of the pack when it comes to SEC team rankings. Between 8 and 10 sounds about the norm. Why do some act surprised? I am trying out how does South Carolina keep beating us in recruiting rankings?

[Andrew Hogfan]

I'm not surprised. Just disappointed.  6th place out of 7 in our division sucks.

[Bacon_Bitz]

We always finish in the middle of the pack when it comes to SEC team rankings. Between 8 and 10 sounds about the norm. Why do some act surprised? I am trying out how does South Carolina keep beating us in recruiting rankings?

More/higher rated recruits instate and in nearby NC and GA make recruiting to SC much easier. 17 of their 23 recruits and all of their four 4 stars are from those 3 states.

[factchecker]

We always finish in the middle of the pack when it comes to SEC team rankings. Between 8 and 10 sounds about the norm. Why do some act surprised? I am trying out how does South Carolina keep beating us in recruiting rankings?

Location, Location, Location

plus Muschamp is a pretty good recruiter.

[LRHawg]

We always finish in the middle of the pack when it comes to SEC team rankings. Between 8 and 10 sounds about the norm. Why do some act surprised? I am trying out how does South Carolina keep beating us in recruiting rankings?

My guess is proximity to Atlanta and all the kids in Georgia/SC/NC/East TN area. Muschamp can recruit, but so far hasn't shown to be an elite head coach.

[Youngsta71701]

More/higher rated recruits instate and in nearby NC and GA make recruiting to SC much easier. 17 of their 23 recruits and all of their four 4 stars are from those 3 states.

Oh yeah, that's understandable then. It just sucks that a program that we are better than recruits better than us.

[Ramboar]

That's disheartening

Not really, I love this class. Haven't been this excited ab a class in a while.

[forrest city joe]

Location, Location, Location

plus Muschamp is a pretty good recruiter.

Yep. the coaches change,but the recruiting stays about the same.you need great coaching,and great evaluations to win big at Arkansas.it is what it is.

[The_Boot_stops_here]

Not really, I love this class. Haven't been this excited ab a class in a while.

Interesting.  What stands out to you about this class?  What sets it apart from recent classes?

[GoHogzzGo]

Top 25 is damn good and plenty of talent to to win, we are just in a all division.

Also note the absence of Ole miss correct? And how is Maryland so high? Put them on notice for the next recruitment violation.

[hawginbigd1]

Interesting.  What stands out to you about this class?  What sets it apart from recent classes?

I don't know about him, but it's the speed and athleticism for me.

[TNhawgfan]

Petrino is #14 and 11 spots ahead of us? I thought it was established on hogville he can't recruit

[The_Boot_stops_here]

Petrino is #14 and 11 spots ahead of us? I thought it was established on hogville he can't recruit

Not arguing for or against BP but on 24/7 (just their ranking, not the composite), UA is 19 and UL is 30

[ifghog]

I'm not surprised. Just disappointed.  6th place out of 7 in our division sucks.

Not that its much better but aren't we ahead of the MS schools? We will never be ahead of LSU, Alabama, Auburn or A&M....Now we could finish better than 25th but we are about were will always be in the West....I know it sucks.

[WriterWrong]

I'm not surprised. Just disappointed.  6th place out of 7 in our division sucks.

Well, yeah. But, we're competing against some elite programs. Being in the Top 25 nationally is still an achievement, and we could still move up... or down.

Either way, we've got a good signing class. Is it good enough to lead to an SEC title at some point? We'll see. But, we aren't bringing in bad football players. Just aren't scoring on the elite kids like we want.

I like our class. If we finish strong, this could be our best overall class since CBB has been here.

[Muskliketusk]

Calloway gonna push us up a few spots.

[Andrew Hogfan]

Not really, I love this class. Haven't been this excited ab a class in a while.

The class itself isn't disheartening.  Coach B has recruited better than petrino or nutt. It's disheartening that his best class to date,  which is top 25 nationally,  is still the bottom of our division. 

[The_Boot_stops_here]

I don't know about him, but it's the speed and athleticism for me.

Let's hope...

[factchecker]

The class itself isn't disheartening.  Coach B has recruited better than petrino or nutt. It's disheartening that his best class to date,  which is top 25 nationally,  is still the bottom of our division.

Life in the SEC West.

It really is crazy when you consider that our current recruiting class would be ranked around 3rd or 4th in the Big12.

[NotSoFastMyFriend]

Location, Location, Location

plus Muschamp is a pretty good recruiter.

Some people will never understand proximity. Like, never ever ever.

[Muskliketusk]

Life in the SEC West.

It really is crazy when you consider that our current recruiting class would be ranked around 3rd or 4th in the Big12.

a league we could win every year. It's just a different type a athlete we get as far as size and speed. Don't think none of them teams are built to handle the kinda physical kids we getting.

[Shutup]

Petrino is #14 and 11 spots ahead of us? I thought it was established on hogville he can't recruit

Absolutely! He can't coach and he can't recruit.
(Heavy Sarcasm)


Robb Smith Got Rich coaching Petrinos recruits. Once Brets recruits started rolling in things went down hill fast. And Brets 25 wins in 4 years speaks for itself.

[King Kong]

Absolutely! He can't coach and he can't recruit.
(Heavy Sarcasm)


Robb Smith Got Rich coaching Petrinos recruits. Once Brets recruits started rolling in things went down hill fast. And Brets 25 wins in 4 years speaks for itself.

Yeah like Martell Spaight..... wait Petrino didn't offer him because he was too small

[factchecker]

Petrino is #14 and 11 spots ahead of us? I thought it was established on hogville he can't recruit

Depends on the service.  The best thing to use is 247 composite because it takes in all the rankings and gives the average:

We are ranked 28th and Louisville is 29th:

http://247sports.com/Season/2017-Football/CompositeTeamRankings

[hawginbigd1]

Looks like tOSU will be unseating Bama this year.  Looks like we will finish in the 20-25 range. I really thought we would really end up with more 4 stars in the end, there are 4 or 5 I thought were underrated when they committed, but it hasn't happened.

[hobhog]

Absolutely! He can't coach and he can't recruit.
(Heavy Sarcasm)


Robb Smith Got Rich coaching Petrinos recruits. Once Brets recruits started rolling in things went down hill fast. And Brets 25 wins in 4 years speaks for itself.

Yeah. THATS what happened.

[Potosihog]

Petrino is #14 and 11 spots ahead of us? I thought it was established on hogville he can't recruit

At Arkansas he couldn't recruit.  At Louisville lets just say they may play by different rules.  It is not like that statement is undocumented.  Additionally, signing a class is different than getting them to campus and keeping them for more than one year.  Many of his top recruits here didn't stick around long enough for us to reap the rewards long term.

[FBREW000]

At Arkansas he couldn't recruit.  At Louisville lets just say they may play by different rules.  It is not like that statement is undocumented.  Additionally, signing a class is different than getting them to campus and keeping them for more than one year.  Many of his top recruits here didn't stick around long enough for us to reap the rewards long term.

and sit back and watch.... How many will not ever make it to campus because of grades, behavior, or being on the police scanner?

[razortaz]

Are there any big recruits we are hoping for on signing day

[Dropkick]

Petrino is #14 and 11 spots ahead of us? I thought it was established on hogville he can't recruit

So you are saying he can recruit, he just didn't when he was here?

[JIHawg]

Does Scout even have a presence in Arkansas now?  Didn't Hogs Illustrated and Scout split up?   

[The_Boot_stops_here]

Are there any big recruits we are hoping for on signing day

Chevin Calloway

[jkstock04]

We always finish in the middle of the pack when it comes to SEC team rankings. Between 8 and 10 sounds about the norm. Why do some act surprised? I am trying out how does South Carolina keep beating us in recruiting rankings?

This is news to me about us finishing middle of the pack in the SEC every year in recruiting. My opinion without referring back is that we usually always finish near the bottom.

The last time I was in South Carolina a few years ago....I went to a high school football game. It was night and day different than when I've been to a Fville high football game. Legit D1 athletes all over the field.

Both opposing teams QBs had already commited to division 1 schools...I remember one of them was a 5* commited to Georgia. The size and speed of these kids....especially on the defensive side of the ball, was unlike anything I've ever seen in Arkansas high school sports.

[elviscat]

Uncommon, is not working on the hill. We get the leftovers yearend and year out. It's sickening to see this same approach every year. CBB, has failed to bring the needed talent to the hill to produce a winner.

[Bubba's Bruisers]

Uncommon, is not working on the hill. We get the leftovers yearend and year out. It's sickening to see this same approach every year. CBB, has failed to bring the needed talent to the hill to produce a winner.

And I doubt any coach will bring in the kind of talent you're talking about.

[southarkhog06]

And I doubt any coach will bring in the kind of talent you're talking about.

not without boosters slingin' cash, cars, swag and coeds at them on their visits.

[hawgtime]

Petrino is #14 and 11 spots ahead of us? I thought it was established on hogville he can't recruit

He can recruit.  I have always believed that.  I think what I read is that not all of his recruits stick around.

by the way... i got your sarcasm.

SOMEBODY get us some players!

[farmhawg]

And I doubt any coach will bring in the kind of talent you're talking about.

If you can't get the talent then you have to have the scheme. That's the problem with our coach. He will never outcoach other teams.

[Bubba's Bruisers]

If you can't get the talent then you have to have the scheme. That's the problem with our coach. He will never outcoach other teams.

If we can clean up the defense, which requires both better talent and coaching, then I think we'll be a very solid football program.  Agree, BB ain't an X's and O's kind of guy, but I think he's more consistent in recruiting and retention compared to previous administrations. We still won't be in the playoff, but we wouldn't be even with the guy using a sexier scheme.

[streitenberger]

Depends on the service.  The best thing to use is 247 composite because it takes in all the rankings and gives the average:

We are ranked 28th and Louisville is 29th:

http://247sports.com/Season/2017-Football/CompositeTeamRankings

As of 1/27, looks like we've flipflopped with Louisville  (we're 29th, Louisville is 28th).   One thing that was interesting to me
was Nebraska at #22. You look at Nebraska's commits and the majority of their top 12 commits/enrollees are from areas of the country that
are about 1000 miles (or more) from Lincoln. I'd imagine they face similar recruiting disadvantages in terms of geographical location that we do,
yet they managed to get commitments from kids that are far, far away from their campus.

[factchecker]

As of 1/27, looks like we've flipflopped with Louisville  (we're 29th, Louisville is 28th).   One thing that was interesting to me
was Nebraska at #22. You look at Nebraska's commits and the majority of their top 12 commits/enrollees are from areas of the country that
are about 1000 miles (or more) from Lincoln. I'd imagine they face similar recruiting disadvantages in terms of geographical location that we do,
yet they managed to get commitments from kids that are far, far away from their campus.

It's hard to tell where we will finish because it's dependent on where other teams finish but if we get Calloway we SHOULD finish somewhere in the top 25.

The flip flop was due to us losing our lowest recruit.  We dropped one point but our average is higher now.

[LJHOG]

I am trying out how does South Carolina keep beating us in recruiting rankings?

Better talent closer.

[Hogwild]

Top 25 is damn good and plenty of talent to to win, we are just in a all division.

Also note the absence of Ole miss correct? And how is Maryland so high? Put them on notice for the next recruitment violation.

I don't see us listed in the top 25 (OP link),  what am I missing??


Maryland did get a commitment from one of the top players in the nation (RB)

[Justagp]

Some people will never understand proximity. Like, never ever ever.

It's not that we don't understand, but everyone has a different idea of great proximity. Me? I love my mountains. When I was in school there I could drive to Dallas in about 5 hours for a weekend jaunt. Was it 2 to Atlanta? No, but I never thought about it - if I felt the need for a quick trip it was 45 minutes via an aircraft.

[Pig in the Pokey]

At Arkansas he couldn't recruit.  At Louisville lets just say they may play by different rules.  It is not like that statement is undocumented.  Additionally, signing a class is different than getting them to campus and keeping them for more than one year.  Many of his top recruits here didn't stick around long enough for us to reap the rewards long term.

and yet they are they same as us? 28th and 29th. He isn't/wasn't a great recruiter. I would be PISSED if he had the #29 class after having the Heisman QB (who is coming back next year). That's not great.  Hogville always says "winning cures recruiting" but that is crap and untrue.

[hobhog]

Love the Hogs we get. Only takes a couple of great ones and you just never know....

[hobhog]

and yet they are they same as us? 28th and 29th. He isn't/wasn't a great recruiter. I would be PISSED if he had the #29 class after having the Heisman QB (who is coming back next year). That's not great.  Hogville always says "winning cures recruiting" but that is crap and untrue.

Qualitative. Define.