OFFICIAL TEXAS A&M GAME THREAD- Final in OT......Texas A&M 28....Arkansas 21

[spiritof92]

Let me spell this out for you.  I have no problem with the pick.  He was trying to make a play.  Let me just ask everyone on Hogville a question.  What would the outcome of the game be if BA hung on to the ball. We punt the chances of a win increase astronomically.   Same ole same ole......I for one think its time for a change.  Players are in place.....leadership is not.

Let me ask you why you are pinning 100% of the blame for the fumble on Allen?

[Karma]

PLEASE DO NOT BASH THE PLAYERS.  DO NOT CALL FOR BENCHING SOMEONE.  WHAT PART OF HOGVILLE RULES DO YOU NOT UNDERSTAND?

Asking for a player to be benched is different than bashing.

[Wayne Watson]

Wayne, what about the cookies. We used to have cookies. I'm demanding my dang cookies.

Price of milk got too high.  Cookies ain't no good without milk.  Speaking of which, think I'll go have some cookies and milk.

Good night all.

[Jonbo]

Heck I can't understand there being as much vitriol as there is here right now. Who thvht we would taken them to OT. Not one of us. I expected a blowout. We played them a tougher game than I ever thought we would. These boys will win some games.

Sorry. I can't understand your not understanding the vitriol. We didn't take them to overtime. They took us after we had controlled the ball the entire second half and had the game about won. They were clutch down the stretch and our guys completely gagged. That's why the vitriol.

[Hogs-n-Roses]

(Homer Simpson) MMMMMMMMMMM ccooookiesssss,Mmmiiilllkkkkkkk,dope!

[code red]

having the number 14 team in the country on the ropes in the 4th quarter and eventually taking them to overtime felt like a JLS loss to you? Really?

Yes.....check the game stats JLS would have won that game....check Rutgers same thing.....you got to take the game.

[code red]

Let me ask you why you are pinning 100% of the blame for the fumble on Allen?

You cant call players out so PM me

[code red]

11-18 good nite

[spiritof92]

You cant call players out so PM me

No, I'm saying it's not as if Allen stood there for 8 seconds and then dropped the ball.

[Steef]

Price of milk got too high.  Cookies ain't no good without milk.  Speaking of which, think I'll go have some cookies and milk.

Good night all.

Hey! You can't LEAVE!

Who's gonna clean up around here!

I want a raise.

[code red]

No, I'm saying it's not as if Allen stood there for 8 seconds and then dropped the ball.

What??  Its football I think there is a significant performance data on said QB in 4th qtr of games at the UNIVERSITY OF ARKANSAS

[spiritof92]

What??  Its football I think there is a significant performance data on said QB in 4th qtr of games at the UNIVERSITY OF ARKANSAS

His fumble tonight is quite a bit different than those 2 throws against Toledo and that throw against TTU (which he repeated tonight).  Those are on him.  The fumble was a group effort.

[code red]

His fumble tonight is quite a bit different than those 2 throws against Toledo and that throw against TTU (which he repeated tonight).  Those are on him.  The fumble was a group effort.

You are putting words in my mouth.  I never talked about those.  How bout MSU last year???  Whatever when your in the huddle is there leadership.  Do folks believe in you.  If not and you got no shot at a bowl.....make a change.

[code red]

The fumble was atrocious...they always are

[spiritof92]

You are putting words in my mouth.  I never talked about those.  How bout MSU last year???  Whatever when your in the huddle is there leadership.  Do folks believe in you.  If not and you got no shot at a bowl.....make a change.

You keep calling to bench BA but I don't think AA is an upgrade and I'm not sure the others are ready.

[gchamblee]

But the fumble however.........could have possibly had a little to do with it....but according to some its our secondary......LOL

did you forget to switch accounts and accidentally quote yourself from the same account? lol

[gchamblee]

  as opposed to when he degrades posters EVERY time he post. Look at his responses to people who post. Its always condescending and he seems to be a know it all for someone that didn't play football.

everyone he degrades is deserving of it. i assume you have been guilty of being an idiot and he called you out on it? get over yourself.

[gchamblee]

THE FOOTBALL IS PRECIOUS>>>>>>ALLEN TURNED IT OVER TWICE....our only TOs,,,,,,,I think

putting you on ignore now. anyone that considers you intelligent or credible enough to read deserves whatever frustration they suffer because of it

[hogsanity]

For those wanting to bench BA,  do you also want to bench the db's that got lost on the 3 big a&m plays late and gave up almost 200 yac by missing tackles?

[dj shanon "Notshavin" smeya]

and gave up almost 200 yac by missing tackles?

This is an aspect that is so frustrating.  A step backwards.

[Tejano Jawg]

For the 3rd quarter and into the 4th...we were rolling. Texas A&M was reeling. About every single snap for us was for positive yards. Then we had a couple zero yardage plays, don't make our 3rd down (for the first time in a long time), then this sequence—selected posts pulled from the game thread. You can see the MOMENT where everything took the downward turn, and people's thoughts leading up to it. (A few were quite apocalyptic.)

First down & we'll win

We need to score in a bad way. I still don't trust our secondary.

They have burned two timeouts. A first down wins the ballgame

52 yd field goal or go for it?

I say pin them deep.  but the way BA is playing if they have a call they love then what the heck.

Goin for it

make it or not I like the call

Here we go

I'll say it now - right call!

Maybe not

damn

CRAP

Dammit Dammit Dammit.

Lord have mercy!

Good lord!

Got a false start, 4th and 8

Well of course it's a flag.

time for the punt

Following the punt, nothing was the same. It was over, really. The only thing that made Kirkland's jump so devastating, was WHEN it happened. Otherwise, it was one of many penalties that shouldn't have been.

Had we made that first down, we have the new set of downs—at worst, 3 more plays to get closer so that MAYBE THEN we can attempt a shorter field goal. Up by 11, we win without question. Or, maybe we keep the drive alive and make it to the end zone. Sure wish we'd gotten that opportunity.

[dj shanon "Notshavin" smeya]

Had we made that first down, we have the new set of downs—at worst, 3 more plays to get closer so that MAYBE THEN we can attempt a shorter field goal. Up by 11, we win without question. Or, maybe we keep the drive alive and make it to the end zone. Sure wish we'd gotten that opportunity.

I agree, but shouldn't have been there in the first place the way we had them on the ropes in the beginning.  THAT is the most frustrating part to me.  They even looked shell-shocked at times on the sidelines.  Sumlin did, too, during the half-time interview.  That's why I hate this "slowing down the game" philosophy.  It's starting to become like the prevent defense....all it does is prevent us from winning.

[Tejano Jawg]

Yes DJS. Something else showing how the game was tilted in our favor...at the half they had one TD, but our D had also held them to 2 field goals. At that time, our D had done enough to win the game (playing like that.)

But, our ability to give up the big play is too proven. To your point, what good is an 8-minute TD drive, if our opponent can score in one play to match us? Bielema needs to realize this isn't working...in these close games, we're leaving our D no room for error. We're just going to have to outscore people by opening things up...first team to 45 wins.

[Ben]

Lol

[007 License To Squeal]

I would not be upset if JL fired BB today...at least, there would be an excuse for this ugliness we see on the field for the rest of the season.

[Steef]

I would not be upset if JL fired BB today...at least, there would be an excuse for this ugliness we see on the field for the rest of the season.

Laat time we Jeff fired a coach at the wrong time of year, we had to hire an interim.

How'd that work out?

[dj shanon "Notshavin" smeya]

Laat time we Jeff fired a coach at the wrong time of year, we had to hire an interim.

How'd that work out?

But let's be honest, Steef - we hired him before the season, and then we were awful.  We are ALREADY awful, and it can't get worse than what we've seen.

[Ex-Trumpet]

But let's be honest, Steef - we hired him before the season, and then we were awful.  We are ALREADY awful, and it can't get worse than what we've seen.

It can get worse.  We should be the favorites in several games the rest of the year...not saying we will win those, but there is talent on this team that simply doesn't know how to win yet.  The worst part is, I'm not convinced yet that there's a coach that knows how to teach anyone how to win yet...maybe the learn together?

[dj shanon "Notshavin" smeya]

It can get worse.  We should be the favorites in several games the rest of the year...not saying we will win those, but there is talent on this team that simply doesn't know how to win yet.  The worst part is, I'm not convinced yet that there's a coach that knows how to teach anyone how to win yet...maybe the learn together?

Sumlin did against us, so did KK and Toledo's coach.  BB has plenty of talent to have won the last 3 games.  He's just not a good coach, especially during the game and putting together a game plan that includes the 4th quarter.

[Ex-Trumpet]

Sumlin did against us, so did KK and Toledo's coach.  BB has plenty of talent to have won the last 3 games.  He's just not a good coach, especially during the game and putting together a game plan that includes the 4th quarter.

Yes there are coaches...I should have been more clear:  I'm not sure there's a coach on our sideline that can teach them...

[dj shanon "Notshavin" smeya]

Yes there are coaches...I should have been more clear:  I'm not sure there's a coach on our sideline that can teach them...

OK, got it and agree.

[BadHog]

Jerry's World was awesome. The best football atmosphere I have ever experienced. It was packed and LOUD! I can't imagine that any player wanting to play college football would not want the chance to play in this venue.