Any chance KeVaughn Allen....

[Hogberry Snortcake]

I'd love to see him.

I have not the slightest idea.  Just curious what the word is.

[duckman]

No worse than your sources in picking Arkansas coaches! I.E. Gruden every time there is an opening

Obvious NLR sympathy here.... 

[duckman]

NLR Athletics are not dirty...Bolding will get his job back( IMO ) and the state tittle should be returned....

Not a chance, when is your class reunion?

[WarPig88]

Do you consider Anton Beard a complimentary player? Would you have made room for Beard? Allen certainly isn't a Bobby Portis-type but few guys are. Few guys in college basketball can have a team built around them. Bit of an unfair standard to hold someone to, IMO. Allen isn't a superstar but he's not a specialist or role player, either. He has All-SEC potential.

I don't want to be stuck with only Arkansas kids, just the nationally ranked ones. The numbers always work themselves out. Durham on pace to graduate? I'm sure Miles is. I wouldn't worry about players that play less than 10 minutes a game when deciding if I should make room for someone that is a nationally ranked, top 50 talent. It's not hard...

I have no idea if that rumor is legit or not. Just like I don't know if the rumor that the coaches have let it be known to Allen that he has a spot if he wants to come is true. If that's true, Mike is thinking like me.

Seriously, if you want people to steer kids clear of your program, then by all means, treat them like garbage as you suggest. Like I said, you will be stuck with local kids to build your entire program.

You would build a team around Beard? Seriously?! Beard is a complimentary player to the likes of Portis and Qualls.

By the way, it is the complimentary players that are the backbone of any program. Only thing is, they have to be willing to admit they are one first and no, you don't cut TEAM members to add one.

I like your fake Karma as well. LOL! I like that someone is taking the time give you +'s while others are taking the time to -'s. You don't say much that's actually worth smiting or applauding but you have nearly as much karma as you do posts!

LOL!

[WarPig88]

They get along great..Allen is the ultimate team player. He wil do whatever he is asked to do. If its score, he can score, if its lead, he can lead.
Last year Anton was the clear leader and Kevaughn had NO problem with that!

That is good to hear. Allen being from Arkansas makes me a fan of his anyway until he does something Dyer or Archie like.

Good to hear he has a good attitude.

[Hogberry Snortcake]

?
Chill…I didn't say anything..
Im not stating rumor..Im stating fact. Beard transferred from Parkview to NLR to play with Kevaughn.
The only reason Beard ever left NLR was because at the time NLR would not allow freshman to play on varsity because they were on 2 different campuses( some AAA rule at the time)

No big thang.  You threw around some ALL CAPS and exclamations!!  Maybe you don't internet so much. 

[Omahabound]

Not a chance, when is your class reunion?

Soon...Ill tell Gruden you said Hi!

Also, no issue with Kevaughn academically..Dont know where that came from.

[razorbacker3]

You would think Anton would have the scoop on his former team-mate. Maybe they weren't the best of friends in HS and have no desire to play together anymore.

[Hawg Red]

Seriously, if you want people to steer kids clear of your program, then by all means, treat them like garbage as you suggest. Like I said, you will be stuck with local kids to build your entire program.

You would build a team around Beard? Seriously?! Beard is a complimentary player to the likes of Portis and Qualls.

By the way, it is the complimentary players that are the backbone of any program. Only thing is, they have to be willing to admit they are one first and no, you don't cut TEAM members to add one.

I like your fake Karma as well. LOL! I like that someone is taking the time give you +'s while others are taking the time to -'s. You don't say much that's actually worth smiting or applauding but you have nearly as much karma as you do posts!

LOL!

Ever heard of a player by the name of Dee Wagner???

It happens all the time, man. And it happens everywhere. And it would only hurt your recruiting with other kids that may be scared they'll lose their spot if they aren't good enough. In which case, who cares? You don't pass up a top 50 talent to appease marginal prospects. Every coach in the country knows this. Any kid worth his salt won't be worried about losing his spot. This is ridiculous. We're talking about kids that all think they're going to the NBA.

[DezNuttstehsuq]

Whatever the reason, this needs to get fixed. I want all Arkansas kids with his talent to play for the Hogs! Good Guard play win games

tell KA to drop his handlers

[-Blu]

Here's an interview from his coach a few days ago discussing Allen, Beard and NLR basketball.

http://hogsportsradio.com/2015/02/24/hog-call-coach-rice/

Really liked what I heard about Kevaughn, sounds like a quiet, hardworking kid that just loves to play basketball.  I'm hoping Mike and the staff can make this happen, that would turn this year/upcoming recruiting class from being really good to great.

[Hogberry Snortcake]

Here's an interview from his coach a few days ago discussing Allen, Beard and NLR basketball.

http://hogsportsradio.com/2015/02/24/hog-call-coach-rice/

Really liked what I heard about Kevaughn, sounds like a quiet, hardworking kid that just loves to play basketball.  I'm hoping Mike and the staff can make this happen, that would turn this year/upcoming recruiting class from being really good to great.

Truth. 

[1highhog]

Florida has certainly under-achieved this year.  They should probably have 4 or 5 more wins than they do when you throw in their non-conference schedule.  They'll be having four 4-stars coming in next year.  I don't see why they shouldn't be a Top 25 team once again next year.  I think that should Donovan leave, they will have an Indiana-esque falling from grace after his recruits cycle out.

They should have one less win if you get my drift.

[Cresthog]

I don't get this.

Beard is on our team, they're teammates, he's from Arkansas... What is the hold up other than we've backed off/something shady is going on.

[PorkRinds]

I personally don't see much of a chance.  I'd love to be wrong though.

[WorfHog]

I personally don't see much of a chance.  I'd love to be wrong though.

What's up with NLR kids thinking they are too good for Arkansas? I'll hang up and listen while you guys explain how NWA is elitist.

[PorkRinds]

What's up with NLR kids thinking they are too good for Arkansas? I'll hang up and listen while you guys explain how NWA is elitist.

I'm not sure it's that they think they are too good.  I just think there's a disconnect between the Hogs and the central part of the state.  Some kids are hog fans through and through, and some aren't.  You have to remember, the hogs haven't been great in basketball for two decades. 

[Youngsta71701]

Not if he graduates.

Oh yeah, forgot about that rule.

[mhuff]

I'm not sure it's that they think they are too good.  I just think there's a disconnect between the Hogs and the central part of the state.  Some kids are hog fans through and through, and some aren't.  You have to remember, the hogs haven't been great in basketball for two decades. 

Yeah probably a disconnect from the back pockets of schools of ill repute that have gotten our athletes..... Look at who that might be and tell me if those schools have ever been in trouble for serious recruiting violations?

[jbmoore15]

As to the OP, KA is solid to Florida.  There is no chance the Hogs, or anyone else, will get his commitment.  He feels Florida is the best system for his game.

As for the rumors...

I am not sure where this rumor began, but there is no issue with academics.

He does not have any handlers.  This was KA's decision.  I am not so naïve to say that his family did not have some input on his decision, but I have been told this was his decision.  One person whom you may think is his "handler" actually wanted him to go to Tennessee, which will not happen.

KA is a great person.  He is very humble, polite, and has an outstanding work ethic.  He is the type of person you will be proud to call an Arkansan.

[PorkRinds]

Just to address the rumors floating around...

As I have stated before, KA is solid to Florida.  There is no chance the Hogs, or anyone else, will get his commitment.  He feels Florida is the best system for his game.

I am not sure where this rumor began, but there is no issue with academics.

He does not have any handlers.  This was KA's decision.  I am not so naïve to say that his family did not have some input on his decision, but I have been told this was his decision.  One person whom you may think is his "handler" actually wanted him to go to Tennessee, which will not happen.

KA is a great person.  He is very humble, polite, and has an outstanding work ethic. He is the type of person you will be proud to call an Arkansan.

Til he goes and plays for Florida...

[Hawg Red]

Just to address the rumors floating around...

As I have stated before, KA is solid to Florida.  There is no chance the Hogs, or anyone else, will get his commitment.  He feels Florida is the best system for his game.

I am not sure where this rumor began, but there is no issue with academics.

He does not have any handlers.  This was KA's decision.  I am not so naïve to say that his family did not have some input on his decision, but I have been told this was his decision.  One person whom you may think is his "handler" actually wanted him to go to Tennessee, which will not happen.

KA is a great person.  He is very humble, polite, and has an outstanding work ethic. He is the type of person you will be proud to call an Arkansan.

Exceeeept that he chose to go to Florida just as Arkansas is becoming nationally relevant again. That's going to ruffle some feathers and not endear him to many, and he has to understand that. It's his decision but he also has to live the unhappiness of the fans and people of a state like Arkansas, which is truly a unique sports state.

[jbmoore15]

Til he goes and plays for Florida...

I will still pull for him until he plays Arkansas.  I think he is the type of person that can do great things, both on the court and off.

[jbmoore15]

Exceeeept that he chose to go to Florida just as Arkansas is becoming nationally relevant again. That's going to ruffle some feathers and not endear him to many, and he has to understand that. It's his decision but he also has to live the unhappiness of the fans and people of a state like Arkansas, which is truly a unique sports state.

I agree with you completely.  It will definitely be more difficult for him to come back into the State after leaving for Florida, but it has been done before (see Keith Jackson).

[Hawg Red]

I agree with you completely.  It will definitely be more difficult for him to come back into the State after leaving for Florida, but it has been done before (see Keith Jackson).

I think it's safe to say that Keith is more of the exception than the rule.

[Piggage]

It will definitely be more difficult for him to come back into the State after leaving for Florida, but it has been done before (see Keith Jackson).

The Keith Jackson comparison would be appropriate only if KA had said he plays a position that Arkansas hardly ever features, he doesn't see how he could fit into Arkansas' offense, and he has an opportunity to play in a nearby state for a team that is NOT a conference opponent of Arkansas'.

Even with all that, there are many Razorback fans who will never forgive Keith Jackson for not playing for the Razorbacks.

[PorkRinds]

The Keith Jackson comparison would be appropriate only if KA had said he plays a position that Arkansas hardly ever features, he doesn't see how he could fit into Arkansas' offense, and he has an opportunity to play in a nearby state for a team that is NOT a conference opponent of Arkansas'.

Even with all that, there are many Razorback fans who will never forgive Keith Jackson for not playing for the Razorbacks.

Anyone who thinks they NEED to forgive KJ for anything is insane.  He, nor Kevaughn, owe us anything.  But we go above and beyond for those that do choose to play for us, and he will not get that.  But to think they need forgiveness is just kind of batty.

[The_Bionic_Pig]

Archie "Bidness Decision" Goodwin has been playing for the Bakersfield Jam for awhile now in the D-League.  The majority of his Freshmen season Wildcat fan's were complaining of him being a ball hog and couldn't wait for his departure.

I guess he received the exact same loyalty from that fanbase that he showed his home-state.

[HSVhogfan2]

Archie "Bidness Decision" Goodwin has been playing for the Bakersfield Jam for awhile now in the D-League.  The majority of his Freshmen season Wildcat fan's were complaining of him being a ball hog and couldn't wait for his departure.

I guess he received the exact same loyalty from that fanbase that he showed his home-state.

And took 3.4 million of guaranteed money with him. Pretty decent Bidness decision.

[grayhawg]

And took 3.4 million of guaranteed money with him. Pretty decent Bidness decision.

So, are you saying he wouldn't have got that if he went to U of A?

[HSVhogfan2]

So, are you saying he wouldn't have got that if he went to U of A?

Not if his production woulda been the same. Now, chances are, he woulda been a featured player at AR and his numbers been better. But, in short, no. Right or wrong KY under Cal has the rep of producing first round draft picks so GMs will take a flyer on a guy there quicker than they will from AR.

It's funny that folks consider guys who get drafted and don't make it very long as failures. You get your guarantee and you've made more money than most make in their lifetime. You perform well enough to get the second contract and you've hit the lottery.

[grayhawg]

Not if his production woulda been the same. Now, chances are, he woulda been a featured player at AR and his numbers been better. But, in short, no. Right or wrong KY under Cal has the rep of producing first round draft picks so GMs will take a flyer on a guy there quicker than they will from AR.

It's funny that folks consider guys who get drafted and don't make it very long as failures. You get your guarantee and you've made more money than most make in their lifetime. You perform well enough to get the second contract and you've hit the lottery.

If you are pro material the NBA will find you where ever you are just like the NFL.

[Oklahawg]

If you are pro material the NBA will find you where ever you are just like the NFL.

Bingo.

[Big Boi]

The Keith Jackson comparison would be appropriate only if KA had said he plays a position that Arkansas hardly ever features, he doesn't see how he could fit into Arkansas' offense, and he has an opportunity to play in a nearby state for a team that is NOT a conference opponent of Arkansas'.

Even with all that, there are many Razorback fans who will never forgive Keith Jackson for not playing for the Razorbacks.

I believe a former Hawg should should have Keith's job. He does a fine job just the way I feel.

[HSVhogfan2]

If you are pro material the NBA will find you where ever you are just like the NFL.

That's true to a point. If Goodwin had the same stats at AR he would not have been a first round pick after one year. Year two or three?  Absolutely, but not year one. Although the Suns front office still think Goodwin will be a big part of their future, it was still a bit of a flyer to take him that high.

The reputation of your program matters. Believe it or not, it will help AR BB recruiting in the long run if Portis and Qualls leaves after this year. Most kids come out of HS or AAU wanting to get paid more than they want to wear the colors of their favorite team.

[sickboy]

That's true to a point. If Goodwin had the same stats at AR he would not have been a first round pick after one year. Year two or three?  Absolutely, but not year one. Although the Suns front office still think Goodwin will be a big part of their future, it was still a bit of a flyer to take him that high.

The reputation of your program matters. Believe it or not, it will help AR BB recruiting in the long run if Portis and Qualls leaves after this year. Most kids come out of HS or AAU wanting to get paid more than they want to wear the colors of their favorite team.

What are you trying to say? That Kentucky is better at developing kids for the NBA or that the NBA will give the kid boost because he's from Kentucky?

[HSVhogfan2]

What are you trying to say? That Kentucky is better at developing kids for the NBA or that the NBA will give the kid boost because he's from Kentucky?

Scouts will give the benefit because a kid comes from KY. You really aren't developing anything in year one. These are kids, for the most part, that would go straight to the NBA out of HS if they could. They can develop more in the D-League than they can at any college program.

[yraciv]

I agree with the NBA will find you wherever if you have the talent. I'll also argue that these young men that choose to go to UK are given at advantage when it comes to getting to the NBA.

Kentucky has the best facilities and you get better by practicing every day against good competition. You get onto campus, and UK holds a preseason combine for the NBA guys to get a glimpse.  Follow that with Nationally televised games, and yes the exposure you get at UK does help you get drafted.  There is no way to quantify how much that is, but it's evident it helps.

[Big Nasty 34]

Goodwin is back on the Suns roster ftw

[hoglady]

Isn't he a North Little Rock Kid............Those boys are way to good to play for those lowly HOGS!

You know where Anton Beard played high school ball?

[grayhawg]

Scouts will give the benefit because a kid comes from KY. You really aren't developing anything in year one. These are kids, for the most part, that would go straight to the NBA out of HS if they could. They can develop more in the D-League than they can at any college program.

I will make one more post on this subject. First Archie Goodwin in all likelyhood would have a lot better stats at Arkansas because of the talent difference. And secondly do you actually think a team with very limited draft picks like they have in the NBA they are going to draft a player they haven't done extensive research on?

[hoglady]

Some of you have short memories.
Huge problems between Nolan and some of the Central Arkansas coaches.
Nolan hardly ever got (not sure if he even recruited) many of the kids from Central Arkansas.
Ya'll can portray it as a NLR thing - but it's not.
Anderson has obviously done a pretty good job mending the fences - he got Portis and Beard.

[HSVhogfan2]

I will make one more post on this subject. First Archie Goodwin in all likelyhood would have a lot better stats at Arkansas because of the talent difference. And secondly do you actually think a team with very limited draft picks like they have in the NBA they are going to draft a player they haven't done extensive research on?

I'm sure they did their research. Unless you are a Anthony Davis type player, you are drafted on potential. A "flyer" means, there wasn't one of those guys on the board, so they drafted the "best available player". The fact that the Suns most solid position at the time was guard, and Archie is now in thier D-league, supports that.

[hogfan14]

Scouts will give the benefit because a kid comes from KY. You really aren't developing anything in year one. These are kids, for the most part, that would go straight to the NBA out of HS if they could. They can develop more in the D-League than they can at any college program.

Saw a UK fan post this on their board

The smartest thing Archie Goodwin ever did was not go to Arkansas. Unfortunately, Bobby Portis did make that same decision. How good could he be if he was coached by Cal or K or Izzo etc.

[The_Iceman]

Arkansas's system would have allowed for Archie to put up even better numbers. He and BJ Young together would have been able to destroy teams in the open floor. I don't believe that Kentucky improved his pro stock any.

[The_Iceman]

Saw a UK fan post this on their board

One of the most arrogant and ignorant posts I have ever seen.

[HSVhogfan2]

Arkansas's system would have allowed for Archie to put up even better numbers. He and BJ Young together would have been able to destroy teams in the open floor. I don't believe that Kentucky improved his pro stock any.

Isn't BJ playing overseas? I think Russia, if memory serves me correct. I didn't think he got drafted, but I could be wrong.

[HSVhogfan2]

Saw a UK fan post this on their board

Even though Portis was highly rated out of HS he wasn't on anyone's NBA radar. He was developed a ton between his first and second year. That's a credit to him, MA, and his staff. I don't think Cal developes any better, or probably not even as good as MA (look at Qualls), I'm just pointing out the exposure to scouts early (some of which should be against NCAA rules) and the perception of KY always spitting out 1st rounders.

[-Blu]

One of the most arrogant and ignorant posts I have ever seen.

Didn't Cal throw Goodwin under the bus and scream on National TV "I can't coach you"?  That's some great coaching and development right there.  I don't care what's going on between the players and MA.  He's not going to throw the guys under the bus like that no matter what they do.  If it becomes that big of a problem he benches or suspends them.

Cal is good at getting elite players to play for him and that's about it.  And there's been past evidence to suggest he doesn't even do that legit.  As far as development and making kids more valuable we can look at that whole 2012-2013 team to see how well his "development' is when he gets guys that actually need a little development.  He had the #1 recruiting class and 3 McDonald All-Americans and went to the NIT. 

[mhuff]

Didn't Cal throw Goodwin under the bus and scream on National TV "I can't coach you"?  That's some great coaching and development right there.  I don't care what's going on between the players and MA.  He's not going to throw the guys under the bus like that no matter what they do.  If it becomes that big of a problem he benches or suspends them.

Cal is good at getting elite players to play for him and that's about it.  And there's been past evidence to suggest he doesn't even do that legit.  As far as development and making kids more valuable we can look at that whole 2012-2013 team to see how well his "development' is when he gets guys that actually need a little development.  He had the #1 recruiting class and 3 McDonald All-Americans and went to the NIT. 

Goodwin was just trying to be one and done. What is he doing now?