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Bielema's statement on Philon and Chaney

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ricepig

Here are my official statements on a couple of departures from our program #WoooPig http://t.co/1yUYtIyoxO

SquidBilly

Definitely get the feeling that he's not sad to see Chaney leave.

 

hawg1221

The last sentence regarding Chaney sounds VERY positive about his options for interviews.

Arazorbackguy1

what has never been done at Arkansas?  We won a National Championship.
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ricepig

Quote from: Arazorbackguy1 on January 13, 2015, 07:57:33 pm
what has never been done at Arkansas?  We won a National Championship.

SEC Championship

Mike Irwin

Quote from: Bret Squealema on January 13, 2015, 07:21:32 pm
Definitely get the feeling that he's not sad to see Chaney leave.
I got the feeling that he said nothing but the obvious. Chaney left. Maybe we'll learn more when the new guy is hired.

ricepig

Quote from: Mike Irwin on January 13, 2015, 08:11:24 pm
I got the feeling that he said nothing but the obvious. Chaney left. Maybe we'll learn more when the new guy is hired.

I got the feeling he wasn't happy about it, but it's hard to tell exactly.

Pigstie

Quote from: Bret Squealema on January 13, 2015, 07:21:32 pm
Definitely get the feeling that he's not sad to see Chaney leave.
I agree. Key words are..... "Bigger and brighter future" and "modified transition".
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Sounds like he has had a lot of interest in the opening.

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Quote from: Arazorbackguy1 on January 13, 2015, 07:57:33 pm
what has never been done at Arkansas?  We won a National Championship.

No we didn't.

Mike Irwin

Quote from: nonoffensiveposter on January 13, 2015, 08:42:01 pm
No we didn't.
Yes they did. The National Football Writers version of the NC for the 1964 season was considered more legitimate than the AP and UPI versions which were voted on before the bowl games. It was so legitimate that the following year AP changed it's policy.

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Quote from: PorkRinds on January 13, 2015, 08:28:42 pm
What exactly is "modified transition"?
It means that the new OC will change what Chaney was doing. It won't be a major change but it will be something noticeable. Wess Moore said on Game On today he thinks Bielema blamed Chaney for the running game remaining stagnant from 2013.

It could mean less passing and more running. It could mean a promotion for Peavey.

Before some of you jump though your skins with joy I'm not suggesting that Brandon Allen will be benched. But the new OC might want to use two QBs especially if one of them can add to the running game.

All of this is speculation but it looks like there is going to a "modification" to what they were doing offensively last season. What that modification involves remains to be seen.

PorkRinds

Quote from: Mike Irwin on January 13, 2015, 08:51:37 pm
It means that the new OC will change what Chaney was doing. It won't be a major change but it will be something noticeable. Wess Moore said on Game On today he thinks Bielema blamed Chaney for the running game remaining stagnant from 2013.

It could mean less passing and more running. It could mean a promotion for Peavey.

Before some of you jump though your skins with joy I'm not suggesting that Brandon Allen will be benched. But the new OC might want to use two QBs especially if one of them can add to the running game.

All of this is speculation but it looks like there is going to a "modification" to what they were doing offensively last season. What that modification involves remains to be seen.

Thanks Mike. About what I thought. Not reinventing the entire wheel, but changing a few spokes on the wheel.

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Would really be interested in the decision making process/logic of Philon's decision to head to the draft.  Great talent, but I think he's a year early.  Believe this will cost him money in the long run.  Draft stock would sky-rocket after another successful college year which would have enhanced his overall selection.  Wish him well and loved watching him play!  Just wonder what his (better yet his mom and dad's) financial realities are?

Mike Irwin

Quote from: TeufelHog on January 13, 2015, 08:59:59 pm
Would really be interested in the decision making process/logic of Philon's decision to head to the draft.  Great talent, but I think he's a year early.  Believe this will cost him money in the long run.  Draft stock would sky-rocket after another successful college year which would have enhanced his overall selection.  Wish him well and loved watching him play!  Just wonder what his (better yet his mom and dad's) financial realities are?
The word is financial considerations played a major role in the decision.

PorkSoda

Quote from: Mike Irwin on January 13, 2015, 09:00:56 pm
The word is financial considerations played a major role in the decision.
I'm sure it did, but he is quite talented/athletic. 

with a good combine, he will turn some heads.
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Hogpkins

Wish the best to D.Philon! Hope he tears it up in the NFL.

The "modified transition" caught my attention too. Strange selection of words, especially for a prepared statement. Sounds meaningful. And I like Mike Irwin's suggestion of what it might mean. Never settle -- love it!

Kevin

i would say not being able to score in the second half might have been a discussion point
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Quote from: Mike Irwin on January 13, 2015, 08:51:37 pm


It could mean less passing and more running. It could mean a promotion for Peavey.

Before some of you jump though your skins with joy I'm not suggesting that Brandon Allen will be benched. But the new OC might want to use two QBs especially if one of them can add to the running game.



It's adds a dimension to an offense when the QB can get the big 1st down by running and it also demoralizes a defense when they think they have it covered only for the QB escape for a big run.... I don't think we did it often enough because we were afraid to lose our QB to injury.... in the bowl game, the 2 runs by BA were huge.

SquidBilly

Quote from: Mike Irwin on January 13, 2015, 08:11:24 pm
I got the feeling that he said nothing but the obvious. Chaney left. Maybe we'll learn more when the new guy is hired.

So if you resigned, and your boss had the news anchor come on the next day to read a statement thanking you, but then said that there would be bigger, brighter days ahead and the next guy will be the correct fit for the sports dept, you wouldn't think he was glad to see you go?

PorkRinds

Quote from: Dominicanhog on January 13, 2015, 09:12:54 pm
It's adds a dimension to an offense when the QB can get the big 1st down by running and it also demoralizes a defense when they think they have it covered only for the QB escape for a big run.... I don't think we did it often enough because we were afraid to lose our QB to injury.... in the bowl game, the 2 runs by BA were huge.

I'm not wild about the idea of a two QB system.

Dominicanhog

Quote from: PorkRinds on January 13, 2015, 09:15:07 pm
I'm not wild about the idea of a two QB system.

me either but could be it is part of the offense and if the QB goes down while running the offense, then it's next man up... not that we have tOSU QB depth, but they kept running their offense no matter how many they went through... Cardale was still running it, dam the previous injuries.

BadHog

Quote from: PorkRinds on January 13, 2015, 08:28:42 pm
What exactly is "modified transition"?

I like it! I think I am going to use that one to break up with my significant other.
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Quote from: BadHog on January 13, 2015, 09:22:16 pm
I like it! I think I am going to use that one to break up with my significant other.

Hahah sorta my thoughts. +1

regi

Quote from: Kevin on January 13, 2015, 09:10:11 pm
i would say not being able to score in the second half might have been a discussion point

I would say so, BB has said over and over, folks don't want to play their physical brand of football for 4 quarters, and I agree, a lot of teams don't. I think he feels that if you are winning the physical battle, you are taking over in the 4th. That is not happening offensively in conference play.

gawntrail

Quote from: Mike Irwin on January 13, 2015, 08:51:37 pm
It means that the new OC will change what Chaney was doing. It won't be a major change but it will be something noticeable. Wess Moore said on Game On today he thinks Bielema blamed Chaney for the running game remaining stagnant from 2013.

It could mean less passing and more running. It could mean a promotion for Peavey.

Before some of you jump though your skins with joy I'm not suggesting that Brandon Allen will be benched. But the new OC might want to use two QBs especially if one of them can add to the running game.

All of this is speculation but it looks like there is going to a "modification" to what they were doing offensively last season. What that modification involves remains to be seen.

Interesting developments.  I am very excited for the future. 

ldfergu

Since he made these statements I feel like Smith and Thomas get another year

bigdaddyhawg

Quote from: Hoggy Hogalot on January 13, 2015, 08:33:06 pm
CBB will hire someone good for the OC job. Have no doubt about it.

And I'll take odds that when it's announced there will be considerable wailing and gnashing of teeth.
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PorkRinds

Quote from: bigdaddyhawg on January 13, 2015, 09:59:52 pm
And I'll take odds that when it's announced there will be considerable wailing and gnashing of teeth.

Most folks hopefully learned their lesson with Robb Smith.

Soooie21

Maybe now we won't have 3 receivers in the same area looking at each other, thinking who is he throwing to..

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Quote from: bigdaddyhawg on January 13, 2015, 09:59:52 pm
And I'll take odds that when it's announced there will be considerable wailing and gnashing of teeth.

And you would be correct about the wailing and gnashing and in taking those odds most time around here
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Maybe the modification will be scoring in the 4th qtr when needed.
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Quote from: Dwight_K_Shrute on January 13, 2015, 10:37:36 pm
Maybe the modification will be scoring in the 4th qtr when needed.

Ha! Now you're talking.

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Quote from: Mike Irwin on January 13, 2015, 08:51:37 pm
It means that the new OC will change what Chaney was doing. It won't be a major change but it will be something noticeable. Wess Moore said on Game On today he thinks Bielema blamed Chaney for the running game remaining stagnant from 2013.

It could mean less passing and more running. It could mean a promotion for Peavey.

Before some of you jump though your skins with joy I'm not suggesting that Brandon Allen will be benched. But the new OC might want to use two QBs especially if one of them can add to the running game.

All of this is speculation but it looks like there is going to a "modification" to what they were doing offensively last season. What that modification involves remains to be seen.

Mike I think Wes Moore is off. And the modified transition statement is more so of keeping the current playbook while bringing in the new one..

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I figure Bielema knew about the Chaney exit before he left for Louisville. Has probably been surveying the landscape and will probably have a complete staff in place before signing day. Given his track record I would bet the new coaches will be pleasing to us all. Still anxious to see if we get two or four.

Oklahawg

"Modified Transition".

The opposite would be "reboot." That is NOT what we are getting.

I immediately thought, "tweaking the offense".
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Quote from: Oklahawg on January 13, 2015, 10:49:06 pm
"Modified Transition

Quote from: Mike Irwin on January 13, 2015, 08:51:37 pm
It means that the new OC will change what Chaney was doing. It won't be a major change but it will be something noticeable. Wess Moore said on Game On today he thinks Bielema blamed Chaney for the running game remaining stagnant from 2013.

It could mean less passing and more running. It could mean a promotion for Peavey.

Before some of you jump though your skins with joy I'm not suggesting that Brandon Allen will be benched. But the new OC might want to use two QBs especially if one of them can add to the running game.

All of this is speculation but it looks like there is going to a "modification" to what they were doing offensively last season. What that modification involves remains to be seen.

Mike, I am not sure how you got all that from those comments. I read that as the transition will be easy. Basically don't panic we will be fine.

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Quote from: Mike Irwin on January 13, 2015, 09:00:56 pm
The word is financial considerations played a major role in the decision.

we need a bag man to give the family 100,000 so D can stay in school.
this is the SEC........
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Quote from: Bret Squealema on January 13, 2015, 09:13:21 pm
So if you resigned, and your boss had the news anchor come on the next day to read a statement thanking you, but then said that there would be bigger, brighter days ahead and the next guy will be the correct fit for the sports dept, you wouldn't think he was glad to see you go?

Bielema has said on more than one occasion that anytime one of his coaches leaves he always thinks he can upgrade even if he didn't want them to leave. So no, to me that part of the statement doesn't tell me that he wanted Chaney gone.

The part about moving the offense forward with modifications was a little more telling but it still doesn't tell me that he asked Chaney to leave. He could have moved the offense forward with modifications if Chaney had stayed.

At some point this will be cleared up but fans who think they know what happened because this is logical or that is logical, you're guessing. I've been at this long enough to know that a lot of times what seems logical isn't what happened.

Mike Irwin

Quote from: Styflin on January 13, 2015, 11:00:32 pm
Mike, I am not sure how you got all that from those comments. I read that as the transition will be easy. Basically don't panic we will be fine.
My response had nothing to do with whether or not the transition will be easy or difficult. Bielema used the term modified transition. That means something with the offense will be modified moving forward. Exactly what will be modified is not clear at this point. I simply offered some possibilities.

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WTH is CBB supposed to say about Chaney leaving?  Well he left there went the program just shut it down.   We will never get someone of his caliber again.  Jesus Christ some of ya'll think before you post.
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I think most of us on here would be better served listening to Mike's interpretation of what was said.  Prevent some from reading so much into a simple statement.
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Quote from: TeufelHog on January 13, 2015, 08:59:59 pm
Would really be interested in the decision making process/logic of Philon's decision to head to the draft.  Great talent, but I think he's a year early.  Believe this will cost him money in the long run.  Draft stock would sky-rocket after another successful college year which would have enhanced his overall selection.  Wish him well and loved watching him play!  Just wonder what his (better yet his mom and dad's) financial realities are?

How? Rookie contracts are scaled now. They make the big money on the 2nd contract.
Quote from: Peter Porker on January 08, 2014, 04:03:21 pm
Notice he says your boy instead of "our coach". Very telling.

I'm not worried. If he recruits like he did here Louisville will fire him in about 5 years.

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