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How many wins is enough to say he was the right hire?

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- 4 (1.6%)
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- 20 (7.8%)
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- 21 (8.2%)
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- 46 (18%)
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- 97 (38%)
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- 54 (21.2%)
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- 5 (2%)
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How many wins next year?
« on: December 06, 2017, 07:06:55 pm »

Bonus Question:  How many wins do you think he will get?

There are a lot of fans that are skeptical of this hire, and a lot that have openly embraced it.

my question is, what is the win threshold next year for you to be able to say this was a good hire?

2018 Arkansas Football Schedule
Sept. 1 – EASTERN ILLINOIS
Sept. 8 – at Colorado State
Sept. 15 – NORTH TEXAS
Sept. 22 – at Auburn
Sept. 29 – vs. Texas A&M (Arlington, Texas)
Oct. 6 – ALABAMA
Oct. 13 – OLE MISS
Oct. 20 – TULSA
Oct. 27 – VANDERBILT
Nov. 3 – Open Date
Nov. 10 – LSU
Nov. 17 – at Mississippi State
Nov. 24 – at Missouri
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Re: How many wins next year?
« Reply #1 on: December 06, 2017, 07:07:58 pm »

6 tops
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Re: How many wins next year?
« Reply #2 on: December 06, 2017, 07:18:05 pm »

6 tops
I'm skeptical he can do it, but if he makes a bowl next year then, to me, that is enough to say he has a chance to build something here.  anything less and we wasted 20 million in buyouts.  I don't think that is unfair.
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Re: How many wins next year?
« Reply #3 on: December 06, 2017, 07:19:03 pm »

Call me optimistic, but 8 wins. We start 3-0. We will beat OM, Tulsa, Vandy. Will win 2 of the other games between Auburn, A&M, Miss. St., Mizzou. I think this team has talent, but had not been coached up real well and 2nd half adjustments were non existent.
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Re: How many wins next year?
« Reply #4 on: December 06, 2017, 07:19:56 pm »

I'll go 9 and SEC coach of the year
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Re: How many wins next year?
« Reply #5 on: December 06, 2017, 07:20:15 pm »

6 tops

6 minimum. Any additional will be dependant upon his DC.
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Re: How many wins next year?
« Reply #6 on: December 06, 2017, 07:22:11 pm »

2018 Arkansas Football Schedule
Sept. 1 – EASTERN ILLINOIS W
Sept. 8 – at Colorado State L
Sept. 15 – NORTH TEXAS W
Sept. 22 – at Auburn L
Sept. 29 – vs. Texas A&M (Arlington, Texas) L
Oct. 6 – ALABAMA L
Oct. 13 – OLE MISS W
Oct. 20 – TULSA W
Oct. 27 – VANDERBILT L
Nov. 3 – Open Date
Nov. 10 – LSU L
Nov. 17 – at Mississippi State L
Nov. 24 – at Missouri L

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Re: How many wins next year?
« Reply #7 on: December 06, 2017, 07:22:59 pm »

7-9 wins
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Re: How many wins next year?
« Reply #8 on: December 06, 2017, 07:23:28 pm »

Call me optimistic, but 8 wins. We start 3-0. We will beat OM, Tulsa, Vandy. Will win 2 of the other games between Auburn, A&M, Miss. St., Mizzou. I think this team has talent, but had not been coached up real well and 2nd half adjustments were non existent.
if he wins 8, you can put me squarely on board with this guy.   I agree we have the talent to do it.  new coach / new system, its going to take some great coaching.  But that is why we hired him right?
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Re: How many wins next year?
« Reply #9 on: December 06, 2017, 07:23:37 pm »

6 minimum. Any additional will be dependant upon his DC.

Yea I'll agree with this ..
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Re: How many wins next year?
« Reply #10 on: December 06, 2017, 07:46:41 pm »

I voted for 8, that's what I was going with if we had CBB so I will stick with it with CCM.
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Re: How many wins next year?
« Reply #11 on: December 06, 2017, 07:54:58 pm »

I'm just curious if I somehow mis-explained the poll here.

do we really have people that will be happy with 3 wins and people that wont be happy with anything less than 9?
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Re: How many wins next year?
« Reply #12 on: December 06, 2017, 07:55:27 pm »

Way too many variables to even guess.
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Re: How many wins next year?
« Reply #13 on: December 06, 2017, 07:56:29 pm »

Didn't vote, but would like to see us get to a bowl. I think we have the talent to win at least 6.
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Re: How many wins next year?
« Reply #14 on: December 06, 2017, 07:57:33 pm »

Way too many variables to even guess.

This.

But if he wins 5, the same amount the late, great Bobby P won his first year, I'll be very optimistic heading into year two.

Because, ya know, Bobby P is our standard now.
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Re: How many wins next year?
« Reply #15 on: December 06, 2017, 07:58:29 pm »

Schedule sets up nice for 7 if things fall in place. I'm sticking with that.
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Re: How many wins next year?
« Reply #16 on: December 06, 2017, 07:58:54 pm »

I think 6 wins is a must.  All non conference and Ole Miss/Vandy are must wins.
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Re: How many wins next year?
« Reply #17 on: December 06, 2017, 07:59:48 pm »

5-6
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Re: How many wins next year?
« Reply #18 on: December 06, 2017, 08:00:26 pm »

Way too many variables to even guess.
sure, but what is the minimum number of wins that would keep you confident in the future of the program under morris?
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Re: How many wins next year?
« Reply #19 on: December 06, 2017, 08:00:47 pm »

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Re: How many wins next year?
« Reply #20 on: December 06, 2017, 08:01:02 pm »

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Re: How many wins next year?
« Reply #21 on: December 06, 2017, 08:01:05 pm »

5. A single SEC win. This is, however, just his first year.

Keep going up. 7 wins the next year. By year 3 onwards we need to be averaging 8 wins per two seasons. I don't expect CCM to win against Bama within the first 5 years, and I expect to drop another 2 or 3 games per year, but expecting a in conference win against Miss St., Ole Piss, Mizzou, and someone else is fine.
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Re: How many wins next year?
« Reply #22 on: December 06, 2017, 08:02:59 pm »

Over/Under Pork Soda posts 5,000 times on Hogville next year?

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Re: How many wins next year?
« Reply #23 on: December 06, 2017, 08:03:19 pm »

We have the talent to win a lot of games. If this is a good hire, we should easily be able to win 8 games without needing above average luck. More wins would be possible in that did happen.

However, it isn't just about talent, it's about the fit of the talent. I'd be surprised if we do win 8 games next year and if that does come to pass, I wouldn't say that is an indictment of him not being a good coach. There will likely be growing pains. There will likely be a lot of transfers that will hurt our depth. With no knowing what injuries will happen or suspensions, there really is no single threshold value of wins this coming season that will show he is a bad hire.
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Re: How many wins next year?
« Reply #24 on: December 06, 2017, 08:04:39 pm »

I'm skeptical he can do it, but if he makes a bowl next year then, to me, that is enough to say he has a chance to build something here.  anything less and we wasted 20 million in buyouts.  I don't think that is unfair.

if he can't win 6 games next year, hit the dam panic button.
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Re: How many wins next year?
« Reply #25 on: December 06, 2017, 08:04:48 pm »

Happy for the hire and think Morris’s system will work better for us but this is going to take some time to develop. We are moving from a huddle up pro set under center offense heavy on tight ends to a complete opposite shotgun up tempo run and shoot that needs lots of quick receivers. This doesn't turn in a year. If we manage 6 wins next year Im tickled.
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Re: How many wins next year?
« Reply #26 on: December 06, 2017, 08:05:11 pm »

5. A single SEC win. This is, however, just his first year.

Keep going up. 7 wins the next year. By year 3 onwards we need to be averaging 8 wins per two seasons. I don't expect CCM to win against Bama within the first 5 years, and I expect to drop another 2 or 3 games per year, but expecting a in conference win against Miss St., Ole Piss, Mizzou, and someone else is fine.

I like this analysis.
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Re: How many wins next year?
« Reply #27 on: December 06, 2017, 08:05:50 pm »

8-9 wins with a bowl game to be decided.  I'm all in.
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Re: How many wins next year?
« Reply #28 on: December 06, 2017, 08:09:44 pm »

8-4
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Re: How many wins next year?
« Reply #29 on: December 06, 2017, 08:12:35 pm »

I'll say 7. Six wins (5 at home against lesser talent and at CSU) and we'll get one unexpected one somewhere.
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Re: How many wins next year?
« Reply #30 on: December 06, 2017, 08:13:58 pm »

5. A single SEC win. This is, however, just his first year.

Keep going up. 7 wins the next year. By year 3 onwards we need to be averaging 8 wins per two seasons. I don't expect CCM to win against Bama within the first 5 years, and I expect to drop another 2 or 3 games per year, but expecting a in conference win against Miss St., Ole Piss, Mizzou, and someone else is fine.

soft schedule. talent is here, although not system talent. 5 wins would be an unbelievable disappointment.  7-5 is realistic. throw in a upset over a@m or lsu and all of a sudden its 8-4 with the future so dam bright you gotta wear shades.
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Re: How many wins next year?
« Reply #31 on: December 06, 2017, 08:22:06 pm »

soft schedule. talent is here, although not system talent. 5 wins would be an unbelievable disappointment.  7-5 is realistic. throw in a upset over a@m or lsu and all of a sudden its 8-4 with the future so dam bright you gotta wear shades.

Question wasn't what I expected, but the minimum to not think we need to bail immediately. That's 5 wins. 6 wins is a pleased. 7 wins is happy.  8 wins is ecstatic. 9+ is us winning an NC within 5 years.
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Re: How many wins next year?
« Reply #32 on: December 06, 2017, 08:26:35 pm »

I hope we have no more than two wins next year.  I want the rebuild to be so complete and so far down to the bare foundation that everybody has no idea what's going on until CCM can take a year or so to put each piece back together right and then the wins come because they can't help but pile up under the new machine.

I wasn't excited to see this hire, but I am hopeful for our new coach.  WPS.
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Re: How many wins next year?
« Reply #33 on: December 06, 2017, 08:29:06 pm »

I think 6 wins is a must.  All non conference and Ole Miss/Vandy are must wins.

That second game at Colorado State will not be easy.
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Re: How many wins next year?
« Reply #34 on: December 06, 2017, 08:34:09 pm »

if he can't win 6 games next year, hit the dam panic button.

Why, what will happen to the dam?
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Re: How many wins next year?
« Reply #35 on: December 06, 2017, 08:39:04 pm »

New coach and totally different scheme. .  Offense Will depend on how many players can play this scheme.  Defense will depend on scheme also and if we can sign some JUCO or freshmen  help bec we need speed.

I will wait until after spring ball.
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Re: How many wins next year?
« Reply #36 on: December 06, 2017, 08:39:54 pm »

That second game at Colorado State will not be easy.
and its early in the year.  we may be scraping for a 3rd sec win to get bowl eligible.

I think the wins are there to be had, but Morris can't afford a slow start.
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« Reply #37 on: December 06, 2017, 08:40:04 pm »

6 regular season wins or more will be viewed as a major success. We are fixing to do a 180 on pretty much everything philosophy wise. “Rebuild year” will be a common phrase.
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Re: How many wins next year?
« Reply #38 on: December 06, 2017, 08:40:15 pm »

Call me optimistic, but 8 wins. We start 3-0. We will beat OM, Tulsa, Vandy. Will win 2 of the other games between Auburn, A&M, Miss. St., Mizzou. I think this team has talent, but had not been coached up real well and 2nd half adjustments were non existent.

 I'm with you on this. Not enough film to be able to pick out patterns and tendencies.
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Re: How many wins next year?
« Reply #39 on: December 06, 2017, 08:43:03 pm »

Why, what will happen to the dam?

its gonna break and flood the state with apathy
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Re: How many wins next year?
« Reply #40 on: December 06, 2017, 08:43:16 pm »

Way too many variables to even guess.
None of that matters......this is Hogville,  you're a Razorback fan, just pick the most wins possible.

Sheesh, why do people make this difficult?
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Re: How many wins next year?
« Reply #41 on: December 06, 2017, 08:44:55 pm »

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Re: How many wins next year?
« Reply #42 on: December 06, 2017, 08:47:15 pm »

Bonus Question:  How many wins do you think he will get?

There are a lot of fans that are skeptical of this hire, and a lot that have openly embraced it.

my question is, what is the win threshold next year for you to be able to say this was a good hire?

2018 Arkansas Football Schedule
Sept. 1 – EASTERN ILLINOIS W 56-21
Sept. 8 – at Colorado State W 45-28
Sept. 15 – NORTH TEXAS W 38-7
Sept. 22 – at Auburn W 38-35 OT
Sept. 29 – vs. Texas A&M (Arlington, Texas) W 35-31
Oct. 6 – ALABAMA L 38-17
Oct. 13 – OLE MISS W 31-17
Oct. 20 – TULSA W 45-21
Oct. 27 – VANDERBILT W 38-24
Nov. 3 – Open Date
Nov. 10 – LSU L 28-24
Nov. 17 – at Mississippi State W 42-35
Nov. 24 – at Missouri W 48-45   
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Re: How many wins next year?
« Reply #43 on: December 06, 2017, 08:53:52 pm »

I'm just curious if I somehow mis-explained the poll here.

do we really have people that will be happy with 3 wins and people that wont be happy with anything less than 9?

People like myself picked on the poll before reading what you said. I thought it was just another dumbass poll on how many do you think he will win.
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Re: How many wins next year?
« Reply #44 on: December 06, 2017, 09:01:07 pm »

6-6 at worst 
10-2 at best   

why we could best auburn   because now we are being auburn off right back at them  gus better win in 18  because  if Morris  wins this  gus will get 1 more shot in 19  but with no siderm  at qb he will have no shot   

TAM  jimbo will want a Alabama type off   poket qb passer  he will not take ark as serious   Arkansas is due here   
Miss st   if Fitzgerald misses 9-12 mos  that will put him back in late oct nov   i think moorehead passes more than mullian   
mizzou  they can score but cant play def   Arkansas will start to get the bounces because the SEC will want this to be even   mizz  has won too much lately   
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Re: How many wins next year?
« Reply #45 on: December 06, 2017, 09:01:34 pm »

 If he gets Arkansas to 8 wins Ill say it was a good hire. I figure it will be a struggle to get bowl eligible though.  4 to 6 wins his first year.
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Re: How many wins next year?
« Reply #46 on: December 06, 2017, 09:07:05 pm »

2018 Arkansas Football Schedule
Sept. 1 – EASTERN ILLINOIS W
Sept. 8 – at Colorado State L
Sept. 15 – NORTH TEXAS L
Sept. 22 – at Auburn L
Sept. 29 – vs. Texas A&M (Arlington, Texas) L
Oct. 6 – ALABAMA L
Oct. 13 – OLE MISS L
Oct. 20 – TULSA L
Oct. 27 – VANDERBILT L
Nov. 3 – Open Date
Nov. 10 – LSU L
Nov. 17 – at Mississippi State L
Nov. 24 – at Missouri L

1-11
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Re: How many wins next year?
« Reply #47 on: December 06, 2017, 09:17:16 pm »

I figure Bert would go 6 - 6.

Hopefully this guy can do better.
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Re: How many wins next year?
« Reply #48 on: December 06, 2017, 10:01:10 pm »

6 tops
6, but not tops. 8 very winnable games. Probably lose 1 to transition growing pains.

5-7 to 8-5 is what I see.

Probably 6-6 with a chance at beating up KSU in the Liberty bowl again.
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« Reply #49 on: December 06, 2017, 10:02:37 pm »

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