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I have no idea who the DC will be, but in the team meeting, Coach Morris told the guys, “I’ve got the best DC in the country coming”.  Not, “I’m going to go find”, “not we’re trying to get”.  It will be interesting to see how this plays out.

That’s sure sounds like it would be venables. However, I would expect every coach to say that about any dc he’s bringing in.
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Maybe that's why there was so much smoke regarding Brent as far as head coach? Maybe all the interviews etc were for the DC job and talking pay with his agent.

I still think it's a pipe dream.

I'm just pumped about landed Eric Taylor from TMU!
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I don't see CBV coming but if he and CCM have had a close working relationship in the past it might work out. If this is truly a possibility, make CBV the highest paid assistant in the country with head coach type pay. CBV may want a new challenge. I have changed territories several times with my company. I had much rather take a territory that is at the bottom and turn it around verses taking over one that is on top. I like the challenge plus it is easier sometimes to turn around a territory. The pressure is greater to keep market share on a maxed out territory. The rewards and recognition are greater when you turn things around in a poor market share area.

I'm not saying that CBV will come but for the right money and the chance to turn around a program, this just might be what motivates him.
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I have no idea who the DC will be, but in the team meeting, Coach Morris told the guys, “I’ve got the best DC in the country coming”.  Not, “I’m going to go find”, “not we’re trying to get”.  It will be interesting to see how this plays out.

I like the sound of this.  What else can you tell us?
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This Vebanbles thing is the fakest of all the fake news around this coaching search.

Its not going to happen.   It's a red herring for fans to chase.  After a month someone that's B- level hire will be announced on a Friday at 5:00.  No Grantham, Pruitt,  Aranda, Steele, Chavis, Chisik, is walking through that door.

Sure would be nice if a few assistants with NC rings could be hired into the program.

On the one hand you say it sure would be nice to get a few assistants with NC rings into the program, and on the other you say there's no way the one that's been identified will consider it.

It sounds to me like you want Morris to fail.
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On the one hand you say it sure would be nice to get a few assistants with NC rings into the program, and on the other you say there's no way the one that's been identified will consider it.

It sounds to me like you want Morris to fail.

ding ding ding winner winner chicken dinner!
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I am thinking that it has to be Marion Hobby
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Otis Kirk is a known liar and darn stirrer. he's like a more established version of Eric Bolin.
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Otis Kirk is Fake News
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Otis Kirk is Fake News

While I agree. It was football scoop that reported Venable would be Morris first target.

And Otis did say he found it hard to believe
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We are just getting Brent a nice raise at Clempson.....

Check clemson 2018 verbals for LB jake venables & then ask yourself where pops will be coarching next year
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Check clemson 2018 verbals for LB jake venables & then ask yourself where pops will be coarching next year

but maybe is son comes to AR...
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Check clemson 2018 verbals for LB jake venables & then ask yourself where pops will be coarching next year

If he was enrolled completely different story. But a verbal commitment come on.

If Venables truly wanted to come his kid could switch his commitment

That being said its very unlikely Venables comes for much better reasons than a verbal commitment
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CCM said their base will be a odd from but will run multiple formations.  I’m pretty sure BV runs a 4-3.  I do not think of him as one of the top defensive minds let alone the best but Todd Graham runs multiple fronts.  I wouldn’t be surprised if it was him. 
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Otis Kirk is Fake News

In the Philippines and on Laker Boards he is as revered as Walter Cronkite. 
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When did anyone start listening to Otis?  He knows less than I do.
  much less.  he's defied all odds by being wrong every time he says anything
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This makes 0 sense for Venebles career. Lateral move to AR???

Arguably a step back, but so was moving from OU to Clemson at the time. Morris was the one who convenienced him to make the move to Clemson. Apparently they are very close.
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Why would you leave Clemson to come to Ark for a lateral move???? ???
Who considers Clemson to Arkansas lateral?
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not me   

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Why would you leave Clemson to come to Ark for a lateral move???? ???

S-E-C

Not saying I believe it. Yet money and compete against the best each Saturday is an enticement for highly competitive people.
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Walter Cronkite may be his nickname on Laker boards but here in the Philippines he is known as "Big Daddy from Cincinnati"
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CCM statement that he would be assembling a staff over the next several weeks does give hope for somebody in the playoffs, but it will be an seemingly eternity of a wait for us....but worthwhile!!
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maybe Otis wants this to happen as much as I do.
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Venables ain't coming.

Yes he is!  (See how easy that was...)
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CCM statement that he would be assembling a staff over the next several weeks does give hope for somebody in the playoffs, but it will be an seemingly eternity of a wait for us....but worthwhile!!
or it could just be the reality that it takes time to find, vet, interview, hire a whole staff.  All while recruiting and establishing a new culture in the program.

eitherway, I hope its in place by feb.
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On the one hand you say it sure would be nice to get a few assistants with NC rings into the program, and on the other you say there's no way the one that's been identified will consider it.

It sounds to me like you want Morris to fail.

How about instead of taking a bad swing at the highest paid DC in the country that's the defending NC maybe get a NC CB, or LB or DL coach or coaches and promote and bring them in.

FSU was just busted up how about some of their staff.  Or what about Chisik's defense when he won the NC, where are those guys.  Give a couple of guys a $400K raise and I bet they listen.
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I'm thinking there are a lot of things Otis hears..........................in his head.
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While I agree. It was football scoop that reported Venable would be Morris first target.

And Otis did say he found it hard to believe

A Venables hire would push my interest in the Morris hire from about 70% up to 100%.  The worst part about Chad Morris is that he was Jerry's pick.  Just too close to the source for me and doesn't show allot of objectivity.  I've paid attention to Morris ever since he was at Tulsa and no doubt he can spark an offense and can recruit. 

But as I've mentioned before, I would think that Morris success rate at Arkansas will double if he can pull in a real and big time DC.  I'm not saying it has to be Venables, but it has to be close.
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I am thinking that it has to be Marion Hobby
he's not even a DC
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FSU was just busted up how about some of their staff. 

Go for it.  Taggert is not hiring a bunch of 'em
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he's not even a DC
He was a co-dc at Clemson
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Who considers Clemson to Arkansas lateral?
The lateral means DC to DC. As in, not moving up to HC
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A Venables hire would push my interest in the Morris hire from about 70% up to 100%. The worst part about Chad Morris is that he was Jerry's pick.  Just too close to the source for me and doesn't show allot of objectivity. I've paid attention to Morris ever since he was at Tulsa and no doubt he can spark an offense and can recruit. 

But as I've mentioned before, I would think that Morris success rate at Arkansas will double if he can pull in a real and big time DC.  I'm not saying it has to be Venables, but it has to be close.

That's exactly how I felt!
What's convinced me to give him a chance was when TDP gave his endorsement of coach Morris.
I always thought TDP was an awesome A.D. and had hoped that at some point he would return to Arkansas an retire as our A.D.=
The DC hire is crucial and I hope coach Morris knocks it out of the park..........., and soon.
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The lateral means DC to DC. As in, not moving up to HC

To be precise in the directional sense I would call that a steeply slanted downward move. "Lateral" does not really convey how bizarre it would be.
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To be precise in the directional sense I would call that a steeply slanted downward move. "Lateral" does not really convey how bizarre it would be.


Not as bizarre as you might think. Right now Clemson is one of the top teams of the college football world. That can change. About the only advantage they have is being closer to more top recruits. It is a nice place but there are other nice places. Was it bizarre when he left OU to go to Clemson? After all Clemson then wasn't the same as Clemson now. How about Jimbo going from FSU to TAMU. How many NC's has TAMU won lately yet Jimbo made the move.
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Not as bizarre as you might think. Right now Clemson is one of the top teams of the college football world. That can change. About the only advantage they have is being closer to more top recruits. It is a nice place but there are other nice places. Was it bizarre when he left OU to go to Clemson? After all Clemson then wasn't the same as Clemson now. How about Jimbo going from FSU to TAMU. How many NC's has TAMU won lately yet Jimbo made the move.
it wasn't bizarre really since Stoops brought in his brother, which meant BV got pushed out and needed a spot to land.
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He was a co-dc at Clemson
word. i didnt mean it as a slight, i think he's an amazing coach. just didnt fit the "im bringing in the best defensive coordinator in college football" bit. But i trust coach on this (wow  i havent said that in about 6 years).
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Why would you leave Clemson to come to Ark for a lateral move???? ???
To take over a dumpster fire defense and make it respectable again, while earning millions and having a good time with your buddy while doing so.
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it wasn't bizarre really since Stoops brought in his brother, which meant BV got pushed out and needed a spot to land.

I know but on the surface at the time it looked like a step down one rung on the ladder.
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It will be interesting to see who he thinks is the best DC in the country. Sounds like a deal has already been made.
He probably shouldn't have used that terminology.  Wouldn't you agree.
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word. i didnt mean it as a slight, i think he's an amazing coach. just didnt fit the "im bringing in the best defensive coordinator in college football" bit. But i trust coach on this (wow  i havent said that in about 6 years).
You're ok Poke, wasn't mean as slight.  Just pointing out some experience as DC was there.
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  much less.  he's defied all odds by being wrong every time he says anything

 That's gotta count as being accurate... Just use him for what not to believe...
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Randy Rainwater has source that says Venables is coming
« Reply #292 on: December 08, 2017, 05:31:20 pm »

Randy Rainwater said on DTS this afternoon that he has a source close to the situation that said as crazy as it sounds, Venables is coming to be the D coordinator.  Is this really a possibility?  Seems to be a lot of smoke about this.
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Re: Randy Rainwater has source that says Venables is coming
« Reply #293 on: December 08, 2017, 05:32:06 pm »

Something's definitely getting smoked.
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Re: Randy Rainwater has source that says Venables is coming
« Reply #294 on: December 08, 2017, 05:32:39 pm »

Randy Rainwater said on DTS this afternoon that he has a source close to the situation that said as crazy as it sounds, Venables is coming to be the D coordinator.  Is this really a possibility?  Seems to be a lot of smoke about this.

Great, now it's really not going to happen. Would be nice though!
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Re: Randy Rainwater has source that says Venables is coming
« Reply #295 on: December 08, 2017, 05:33:30 pm »

Could be BV feels he needs to help bring another program up to Clemson's level.  And he want's to work with Morris again.

Stranger things have happened.
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Re: Randy Rainwater has source that says Venables is coming
« Reply #296 on: December 08, 2017, 05:33:32 pm »

Otis is probably Randy’s source
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Re: Randy Rainwater has source that says Venables is coming
« Reply #297 on: December 08, 2017, 05:33:44 pm »

Randy Rainwater said on DTS this afternoon that he has a source close to the situation that said as crazy as it sounds, Venables is coming to be the D coordinator.  Is this really a possibility?  Seems to be a lot of smoke about this.
I most definitely would NOT put much faith in RR's prediction unless it comes directly from the person involved. And I seriously doubt that's the case here. However, I would LOVE to be proven wrong in this particular situation.
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Re: Randy Rainwater has source that says Venables is coming
« Reply #298 on: December 08, 2017, 05:34:02 pm »

Randy Rainwater said on DTS this afternoon that he has a source close to the situation that said as crazy as it sounds, Venables is coming to be the D coordinator.  Is this really a possibility?  Seems to be a lot of smoke about this.

It seems nuts. It's as simple as that. I don't think there is a hog fan who wouldn't love it. But I think we are all in the mode of I will believe it when I see it.
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Re: Randy Rainwater has source that says Venables is coming
« Reply #299 on: December 08, 2017, 05:34:15 pm »

Stranger things have happened.

I'm not sure that's true.
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