Listen up..if FSU

[redeye]

This is ridiculous.  They should have had a plan before they fired Long and BB.

Agreed

Didn't Freeze get caught doing business with a prostitute?  Arkansas certainly doesn't need that type of exposure, after the Petrino scandal.

[cosmodrum]

Off the fsu list from that article.
•Charlie Strong: The USF coach isn't likely to get another chance at running a destination program after his failures at Texas. He turns 58 in August.
•David Cutcliffe: Cutcliffe is 63 and is not an elite recruiter, though he does a good job at Duke, where AD Stan Wilcox formerly worked.
• Bobby Petrino: FSU simply does not need to take a character risk of this size. He turns 57 in March.
•Mike Norvell: Sources indicate that he will not be a candidate

Strong is 58? Damn, black definitely don't crack

[JONAS]

I don't know what to believe anymore.  I heard one thing in this thread.  In another thread Mike Norvell will be announced tomorrow.

[porkrindjimmy]

No, I was referring to insiders from ESPN, who btw usually are spot on with their leaks far more than people like you are or wally or trey or anyone else.

ESPN fired most of the in the know insiders.

Look, I ain't wanting to argue with you or have a pissing contest with you.

I simply posted what I was told. And I trust it.

PRJ

[Ironhawg]

This is ridiculous.  They should have had a plan before they fired Long and BB.

They did have a plan.  Ever heard of a Chinese Fire Drill?  It may not be a good plan, but it's a plan.

[snoblind]

Lol....

Tell me who the elite media members are? Wally and Trey and Biddy?

There will be a few other posters chime in and tell you the info posted on Gus in some ways match up with mine.

PRJ

yep.

[ur]

I want to know what is up with Norvell and fsu from that article.

[JONAS]

Agreed

Didn't Freeze get caught doing business with a prostitute?  Arkansas certainly doesn't need that type of exposure, after the Petrino scandal.

His phone records showed that there were multiple calls to escorts.  I think they were for recruits. 

[porkrindjimmy]

You do not say that Gus is too unscrupulous to touch and then go hire Lane Kiffin.  I am a Kiffin fan but this just seems beyond odd to me.

There is still animosity toward Gus in some circles.

Kiffin doesn't have that against him here.

PRJ

[JONAS]

They did have a plan.  Ever heard of a Chinese Fire Drill?  It may not be a good plan, but it's a plan.

Yep.  I know all about those kinds of plans.

[checkraiser88]

ESPN fired most of the in the know insiders.

Look, I ain't wanting to argue with you or have a pissing contest with you.

I simply posted what I was told. And I trust it.

PRJ

I'm not trying to argue either, I'm just a Gus person and I'm frustrated that our powers can't close a deal to be honest..

[OneTuskOverTheLine™]

After beating Georgia the first time, Gus was just playing us.

Hopefully whoever is doing this will be smart enough to get kiffin done

NYJMSU

[The Kig]

I cant tell if youre serious....

He had Ole Miss beating Bama and making a run in the west.... he didnt do that by sucking...

If I was remotely unclear... Hugh Freeze is a TERRIBLE coach.  Before Hooker Gate, he was a clueless sack. Even when he bought a couple of classes of top flight players, he couldn't win.  He was never making a run in the West... If you're not high, you're a moron.   Any question about whether I am serious?   

[hogsanity]

They did have a plan.  Ever heard of a Chinese Fire Drill?  It may not be a good plan, but it's a plan.

gobn had a fool proof plan - force out Long, get BB fired, then go on hands a knees and beg Gus to come coach.

[BroyledNutts]

D*ck measuring contests between the BOT and GOBN.

PRJ

If this truly is the case, the BOT / GOBN deserve Tim Horton and a complete financial program implosion ...

I picture tumbleweeds rolling throughout the stadium while the GOBN sit in their luxury suites ... and the Dordt College Razorbacks play in the SEC ...

[KC_archHOG]

Is it possible that our, yet to be named, AD has any say in the outcome of this decision?

[HogKong]

Now good old Wally is singing a bit of a different tie :

He tweeted this a bit ago:

"Last opinion tonight, Gus has some support on the AU board and he told them he wanted to be the Auburn coach. Will they beat the UA offer which would be third best in the SEC behind Sir Nick and Jumping Jimbo."

Honestly if we know that Gus wants to stay at auburn we need to move on and stop allowing him to use us as leverage. I would understand him wanting to stay if that was his real desire, but giving us the impression he wants to be here when he actually doesn't does not sit well with me. I think it's best if we just move on no matter what.....

[JONAS]

If this truly is the case, the BOT / GOBN deserve Tim Horton and a complete financial program implosion ...

I picture tumbleweeds rolling throughout the stadium while the GOBN sit in their luxury suites ... and the Dordt College Razorbacks play in the SEC ...

You are right.  They will deserve this.

[porkrindjimmy]

I'm not trying to argue either, I'm just a Gus person and I'm frustrated that our powers can't close a deal to be honest..

And I am not trying to run down Gus at all. I wanted Gus in 07 and when Bobby got canned.

And I don't think Gus is at fault here, if it falls through and I am afraid it has, the blame lies squarely at the feet of a bunch of people who have more money than brains, can't let bygones be bygones.

It is a sad deal really. They have more than likely messed Gus up. They are slow playing Norvell...Kiffin was the lady's first choice and they may have waited to long and if it ain't Venables.....

Who knows who we end up with.

Gulp.

PRJ

[JONAS]

And I am not trying to run down Gus at all. I wanted Gus in 07 and when Bobby got canned.

And I don't think Gus is at fault here, if it falls through and I am afraid it has, the blame lies squarely at the feet of a bunch of people who have more money than brains, can't let bygones be bygones.

It is a sad deal really. They have more than likely messed Gus up. They are slow playing Norvell...Kiffin was the lady's first choice and they may have waited to long and if it ain't Venables.....

Who knows who we end up with.

Gulp.

PRJ

Just hire Norvell and be done with it.  He wants to be here.

[porkrindjimmy]

Now good old Wally is singing a bit of a different tie :

He tweeted this a bit ago:

"Last opinion tonight, Gus has some support on the AU board and he told them he wanted to be the Auburn coach. Will they beat the UA offer which would be third best in the SEC behind Sir Nick and Jumping Jimbo."

Honestly if we know that Gus wants to stay at auburn we need to move on and stop allowing him to use us as leverage. I would understand him wanting to stay if that was his real desire, but giving us the impression he wants to be here when he actually doesn't does not sit well with me. I think it's best if we just move on no matter what.....

And see....if this is true....this was because our people weren't in complete agreement that Gus was the answer and Gus knew the backbiting would start here rather quickly....

PRJ

[SlickWilly]

And I am not trying to run down Gus at all. I wanted Gus in 07 and when Bobby got canned.

And I don't think Gus is at fault here, if it falls through and I am afraid it has, the blame lies squarely at the feet of a bunch of people who have more money than brains, can't let bygones be bygones.

It is a sad deal really. They have more than likely messed Gus up. They are slow playing Norvell...Kiffin was the lady's first choice and they may have waited to long and if it ain't Venables.....

Who knows who we end up with.

Gulp.

PRJ

Let the lady bring us Kiffin.

[Dwight_K_Shrute]

If I was remotely unclear... Hugh Freeze is a TERRIBLE coach.  Before Hooker Gate, he was a clueless sack. Even when he bought a couple of classes of top flight players, he couldn't win.  He was never making a run in the West... If you're not high, you're a moron.   Any question about whether I am serious?

Bert was 3-1 against Freeze even with a decent talent differential. This tells you all you need to know about Freezus as a coach.

[HogKong]

Now the Auburn talking heads are stepping out it too with confidence that Gis stays. @bmarcello just tweeted:

Some folks hedging their bets in Arkansas late tonight. Razorbacks rarely get their first choice. And did they really think Gus didn't have support from Auburn power brokers?

A lot of folks in Arkansas thought it was a given, like he was walking home tonight. As the hours pass, they're starting to face possibilities.

[ur]

http://www.oregonlive.com/sports/oregonian/john_canzano/index.ssf/2017/12/canzano_if_willie_taggart_wont.html
Canzano: Willie Taggart won't say it, but I will... if Florida State offers, he's gone

[Ironhawg]

Let the lady bring us Kiffin.

This is starting to sound like the best solution.

[JONAS]

Now the Auburn talking heads are stepping out it too with confidence that Gis stays. @bmarcello just tweeted:

Some folks hedging their bets in Arkansas late tonight. Razorbacks rarely get their first choice. And did they really think Gus didn't have support from Auburn power brokers?

A lot of folks in Arkansas thought it was a given, like he was walking home tonight. As the hours pass, they're starting to face possibilities.

Hire Norvell or Kiffin now. 

[jrulz83]

And I am not trying to run down Gus at all. I wanted Gus in 07 and when Bobby got canned.

And I don't think Gus is at fault here, if it falls through and I am afraid it has, the blame lies squarely at the feet of a bunch of people who have more money than brains, can't let bygones be bygones.

It is a sad deal really. They have more than likely messed Gus up. They are slow playing Norvell...Kiffin was the lady's first choice and they may have waited to long and if it ain't Venables.....

Who knows who we end up with.

Gulp.

PRJ

Then bring Kiffin in, promote the Lady and if Kiffin gets out of line she takes the fall with him. Done.

[JONAS]

Then bring Kiffin in, promote the Lady and if Kiffin gets out of line she takes the fall. Done.

Sounds good to me.

[DoctorSusscrofa]

http://www.oregonlive.com/sports/oregonian/john_canzano/index.ssf/2017/12/canzano_if_willie_taggart_wont.html
Canzano: Willie Taggart won't say it, but I will... if Florida State offers, he's gone

The Scoop says Taggart is staying put.

[porkrindjimmy]

Then bring Kiffin in, promote the Lady and if Kiffin gets out of line she takes the fall with him. Done.

Yep....

PRJ

[SlickWilly]

This is starting to sound like the best solution.

I would be pretty psyched if it was Kiffin.

[ChicoHog]

I could be way wrong....but I don't think it's Norvell.

Although I will say this....if it isn't Kiffin, it needs to be Norvell because you don't want this going past those two. And if it gets past Venables. Katy bar the door.

Everybody needs to quit watching those planes, people need to quit reading and listening to Wally, Schaap and Biddy. Hogville knows more than those 3.

What we have now is a pissing contest between the BOT and the GOBN. You got one guy blocking this guy. One guy blocking the other.

And Gus may be in No country for old men because he overplayed his hand.

PRJ

As long as it's either Malzahn, Kiffin, Norvell or Venables I will be a happy camper.  Outside of those 4 and then I have big question marks.  There is no way we should miss on one of those guys for someone else!

[ur]

The Scoop says Taggart is staying put.

He tweeted similar messages at wku and south florida right before he left those programs according to one of the linked articles I posted. He also has an unsigned extension sitting on his desk. I'm sure Sexton gave fsu a huge number to get taggart though.

[Switchback]

It's very simple. If we don't hire Gus it's because he doesn't want to come here.  If he does, he will have his agent negotiate the contract with that in mind and we will come to terms.  If he doesn't, them his agent will use it as leverage for Gus and/or throw out a number to see what we will pay for a coach.

The people involved on our side may disagree on his worth but they all know he will do well.

[Chief Mac]

Goes in another direction.....we may very well end up with......



Lane Kiffin.

Hearing all kinds of things about how we may have botched up Gus Malzahn....

Lane Kiffin is definitely in play....but....Jimbo Fisher leaving didn't help us.

Venables is in play....

But we better pray it doesn't slip past Kiffin.

Skip Holtz and Tim Horton. Those names aren't jokes.

PRJ

Holtz or Horton will show we have officially decided to not compete in football in the SEC

[JONAS]

Holtz or Horton will show we have officially decided to not compete in football in the SEC

Might as well see if we can get into Conference USA.

[dhornjr1]

Hate to say this cause it sounds like I'm being an arse (many think I am, anyway), but if it comes to this I'd have to push for Morris.

Yep.

[Spektre]

Venables... he has been killing it on D the last few years, and it is carrying Clemson this year. Go get that man now.

[porkrindjimmy]

You ever owned a fine pair of Amish Leather suspenders? I found a pair today. Excellent craftsmanship. Not that cheap work that you find at flea markets or at gutted out convenience stores that advertise AUTHENTIC AMISH GOODS AND BAKERY. Them sort of folks ain't Amish..they are just capitalizing on the run of Amish shows on TV a few years ago.

Authentic Amish people are good people. They quietly toll at their craft and put out some of the finest work whether it be Furniture, Metal sheds, Bakery items, soaps and lotions and fine leather products. Work that will last at least a couple of generations. And they don't advertise in the paper or the phone book or here on the internet....they just smile and nod, comfortable in their own skin and the knowledge of their craftmanship. They are complete in knowing they produce the finest of goods.

Here at Arkansas, we have men who are worth billions and billions and still are not satisfied with their work. They lust for power, they lust to be the man among men....and they can't seem to be satisfied as a member of a powerful group. No, they have to be the ONE. And if they aren't the ONE, then they will meddle in the other guys business who is also trying to be the ONE. And with all that meddling going on, they begin a chain reaction that weakens the product. It causes problems in the fact that they can no longer keep it together to find a good craftsman. One who will excel at his craft. And quickly the product becomes weak. It becomes cheap and at some point, the consumers recognize that the product isn't what it used to be...and.they move to another product.

I believe that the people who are striving to be the one, study the Amish and my Amish suspenders....

Maybe we won't become a weakened product.

PRJ

[East Clintwood]

According to some outlets, Taggart tweeted that he was staying at Oregon tonight.

Where will he stay tomorrow night?

[memphishog]

Kiffin. That is all.

[beachhawg]

Sounds to me like most of these posts are coming from one point of view.

[playamade76]

Man, y'all don't know anything. Y'all are a bunch of want to be in the know peeps.

[JONAS]

Man, y'all don't know anything. Y'all are a bunch of want to be in the know peeps.

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[hoglady]

If they bring Hugh Freeze in here I am going to have to find another program to follow. 

Everyone wants to act like Petrino's character isn't good enough to be coach here - and they want to give a job to Hugh Freeze??
That's crazy talk. Women trouble coupled with being an NCAA cheater.
No thanks on that. And no on Gus if that's who he wants to bring with him.

[hoglady]

Freeze is a good coach.  I would not mind him being the head coach, but he can't be for a while.

He's an NCAA CHEATER and the man hired HOOKERS.

HELL NO!!!

[porkrindjimmy]

Man, y'all don't know anything. Y'all are a bunch of want to be in the know peeps.

Let me lay something on ya, then I'm gonna ease on out.

You make friends easy don't you?

Johnny Paycheck was an insecure man. He was a little sawed off. Short, had a crazy over the top coke habit, ran with the hell's angels and had a gun and wasn't afraid to use it. He shot a man who actually traded hats with him and he forgot 10 minutes later and thought the man was stealing his hat...so he shot him. Dude took off down the road running and Johnny yelled out, come back, I promise I won't shoot you anymore. Johnny got arrested, claimed it was all an accident, bonded out and a week later, played a show in the same county as he shot the man. Well one in the crowd shouted, why did you do it, why did you shoot that man? Paycheck yelled out cuz he deserved it. You know the DA called every member of that crowd to be witnesses in the trial? Of course he was convicted. When the judge sentenced Johnny to 7 1/2 years in the penitentiary, as Johnny was being led out of the courtroom in cuffs, you know what he told the judge?

He screamed at the judge, I'll be out in 2 weeks.....LMAO.

Moral is you got 29 posts. Ease in to posting around here. Strike up covert PM's with the heavy hitters here. Ask them questions, offer them beer and barbeque beef brisket at Tailgates next year. Just don't come out guns ablazing at folks. It is not good manners, your mother wouldn't like you acting this way. Think before you speak....

PRJ

[JJHog]

Sounds like mustains tweet is about u of a botching this deal aka no one can agree so we all lose.

[onebadrubi]

Man, y'all don't know anything. Y'all are a bunch of want to be in the know peeps.

Bingo!!!  Hard to take anyone serious that keeps saying skip holtz and tim Horton have a chance.