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'Full of jokes, full of crap': Satchel Paige's great-nephew recalls fishing buddy, getting a prized heirloom

By John Sharp | 



QuoteChristopher Grove looks down at his hand, sees a bronze ring from an obscure minor league championship of 51 years ago and smiles knowing he doesn't so much have a piece of baseball history, but a family heirloom from a long-lost fishing buddy.

"He was just a normal, everyday guy," said Grove, 75, a Mobile resident, talking about his great-uncle, who is also one the greatest professional baseball pitchers of all-time -- Satchel Paige.

The ring belonged to Paige and was given to him as a member of the 1973 Tulsa Oilers of the American Association of the minor leagues.

Paige, a Mobile native who often returned to his hometown to visit family including Grove, has a 20-plus-year career in Negro Leagues that included a three-year stint with the Birmingham Black Barons in the late 1920s. The story of the Negro Leagues, and the Black Barons, will be embraced during a June 20 Major League Baseball game at historic Rickwood Field.

As a pitching coach for the Oilers, he received a championship ring that wound up in Grove's possession while the two were in Mobile and engaged in a bit of streetside bartering next to Paige's pick-up truck.

"I had a diamond crystal pocket watch, and was wearing it when he said, 'I want that watch, boy,'" Grove recalled the interaction recently with AL.com. "I asked him, 'what will you give me for it?' He reached into his pocket and pulled out a wad of money. I said, 'I don't want any money.'"

The bargaining continued. Paige knew his grand-nephew was a budding photographer, and was into the newest and shiniest camera equipment. Paige had received some equipment from a TV station and made a follow-up offer to Grove.

"I said, "I don't want that either,'" Grove said.

"He said, 'what do you want?'"

Grove pointed to the ring.

"'I just got this ring,'" Grove recalls Paige's incredulous response.

"I said, 'I don't care,'" Grove responded. Paige then took it off, and replied, "You drive a hard bargain."

Grove was then handed a piece of baseball history.

Paige, though, ended the transaction under one condition.

"It cannot ever leave the family," Grove said he remembers Paige telling him.

Tulsa Oilers - 1973
The ring that is in Grove's possession now dates to a "fascinating team and season," according to longtime sports journalist Barry Lewis of the Tulsa World.

Paige, two years removed from his Hall of Fame induction, "was not the traditional pitching coach" for the Oilers.



Nurse Louise makes sure Satchel Paige is comfortable as he sits in his rocking chair just outside the Kansas City Athletics' bull pen during the game with Washington, September 23, 1965.

The rocking chair was a trademark for Paige. In 1965, at the age of 59, Paige tossed three scoreless innings in a Major League Baseball game for the Kansas City A's against the Boston Red Sox. He had the rocking chair set up in the bullpen and in the dugout during the game.
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Go RAZORBACKS!
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Quote from: Hogman1974 on Today at 11:04:14 amHe declined the G League combine invite, which has a play in for an NBA combine invite. He's signed with us. Are we waiting on something else?

He is not going to the combine, but is working out privately for any teams that are interested.
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Women Razorback sports / Re: Samara Spencer Entering Po...
Last post by BWS - Today at 11:36:32 am
I'll have the Auburn Tennessee game pinned to my calendar.
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conf (2024 team count): picks from 2023 conf members, picks from future 2024 conf members).
SEC (16): 59 picks from 2023 teams. 73 picks from the 2024 teams.

B1G (18): 42 picks from 2023 teams. 69 picks from the 2024 teams.

PAC (2): 43 picks from 2023 teams. 6 total picks from 2024 teams.

ACC (17): 41 picks from 2023 teams. 43 picks from 2024 teams.

B12 (16): 31 picks from 2023 teams. 25 picks from 2024 teams.

Looking at the 2024 rankings, SEC 4.56 picks/team, B1g 3.83, PAC 3/team, ACC 2.53/team, and the B12 at a meager 1.56/team.

So yeah, if the PAC is no longer a Power conference, despite its two remaining teams still having 3 picks each, the ACC is less talent rich than the PAC and the B12 is vastly below that.

How about looking at top heavy conferences vs bottom weak? Let's simplify each conference down to 10 teams for an even comparison. For conferences, let's try to use a balanced approach to look at the middle teams. For example, if there are 16 teams, let's ignore the top 3 and the bottom 3 teams and see how the middle 10 pan out. For the ACC, we'll help them out and remove more bottom than top teams since they have an odd number. Similarly we'll also look at hard mode of removing only top teams from the SEC and B1G and easy mode for the B12 and ACC.

SEC: drops to 41 picks in regular mode, 27 picks in hard mode
B1G: drops to 30 in regular mode, 11 picks in hard mode
ACC: drops to 23 in regular mode, 38 picks in easy mode (10 picks in hard mode)
B12: drops to 14 in regular mode, 22 picks in easy mode (7 picks in hard mode)

Of note, the PAC-2 would be tied in second for picks/school in the regular mode. Even in easy mode, the B12 can't hit 3 picks/school.

We can see how deep the SEC is with 27 picks still in hard mode.

We can also see the lack of depth in the B1G. 69 total picks, but with 2 more schools than the SEC. You remove the top 8 and it drops to 11 total picks. Even in regular mode, it drops down to 30, noticeably less than the SEC.
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Quote from: Pudgepork on Today at 11:12:35 amLsu beat aTm on Friday night. During their Saturday game interview, Schloss implied that lsu won because they were stealing signals. 

Anyone see a common theme?
If I lose, someone is cheating. Sounds vaguely familiar. Oh, yeah, any elementary school sandlot game of any type.
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