John Steven Jones

[hawginbigd1]

So many seem to be writing this kid off due to his height and lack of offers.  If he has the heart and passion for the game that a lot of people have said, he will do fine on the D1 level.

Think a lot have forgotten that Mayfield had to walk on at Texas Tech, and then just showed up at OK with no offer or guarantee he'd be on the team.  Seems like it worked out pretty good for him...

Key word Mayfield walked on, i have a problem with him getting a scholarship when we are limited in spots and we are competing almost with nobody for him, preferred walkon I am all in, but not a blueshirt or straight up scholarship, no way!
Especially when he appears to be another body where we are full up whether it be QB or WR. Imo you don't take anybody but bonafide 4* players at those positions at this point.

[ricepig]

Key word Mayfield walked on, i have a problem with him getting a scholarship when we are limited in spots and we are competing almost with nobody for him, preferred walkon I am all in, but not a blueshirt or straight up scholarship, no way!
Especially when he appears to be another body where we are full up whether it be QB or WR. Imo you don't take anybody but bonafide 4* players at those positions at this point.

Only 4*?? Well, we aren't going to offer an other QB's for 2018, so you're good there. They have offered several WR's, I'm not sure if all are 4*, some are.

[Hugo Bezdek]

Key word Mayfield walked on, i have a problem with him getting a scholarship when we are limited in spots and we are competing almost with nobody for him, preferred walkon I am all in, but not a blueshirt or straight up scholarship, no way!
Especially when he appears to be another body where we are full up whether it be QB or WR. Imo you don't take anybody but bonafide 4* players at those positions at this point.

I'll say it again. Do you want the future owner of the Dallas Cowboys to be an Arkansas alum or Texas Tech alum? He has offers from Texas Tech and SMU, and he's a proven winner. It's not a throw-away offer, even if he's never more than Grant Gunnell's backup or a slot receiver. If he had no better options I'd say let him walk-on, but I don't think you let him get away if you can get him to the Hill.

[opineonswine]

John Steven Jones is a no-brainer offer by Arkansas.  Anyone who can't see it...well...I'll stop there.

[Kevin]

seems to have a lot of swag. something that has been missing from the qb position since mallett.

[Pig in the Pokey]

Only 4*?? Well, we aren't going to offer an other QB's for 2018, so you're good there. They have offered several WR's, I'm not sure if all are 4*, some are.

a few are 5 *, most are 4 *

[870hogfan]

seems to have a lot of swag. something that has been missing from the qb position since mallett.

Cole Kelley has some swag.

[hawginbigd1]

John Steven Jones is a no-brainer offer by Arkansas.  Anyone who can't see it...well...I'll stop there.

Yeah long game i get that, legacy player, with more money than God in his family should not require a scholarship when you can only have 85.

[IronHog]

Yeah long game i get that, legacy player, with more money than God in his family should not require a scholarship when you can only have 85.

Doesn't work that way.

[Philip Seaton]

Yeah long game i get that, legacy player, with more money than God in his family should not require a scholarship when you can only have 85.

Well even if unworthy of a scholarship offer -- which he is not, you offer the son of the biggest --
and probably the most famous -- booster you have. Why would you want to risk alienating his family or even letting him go to another school? It's Common Sense 101.

[hawginbigd1]

Well even if unworthy of a scholarship offer -- which he is not, you offer the son of the biggest --
and probably the most famous -- booster you have. Why would you want to risk alienating his family or even letting him go to another school? It's Common Sense 101.

Sorry you will have to somehow make the case that he is deserving of an SEC scholarship and i think you can not! If you think you can it is a lie or justification without merit.

[Kevin]

Cole Kelley has some swag.

Yes he does. I like it.

[imtad16]

Sorry you will have to somehow make the case that he is deserving of an SEC scholarship and i think you can not! If you think you can it is a lie or justification without merit.

His stats look SEC worthy. Forget who he is. He put up huge stats this season against the best high school competition and has won 2 state titles in a row in Texas. He put up almost 5000 passing yards with 61 TD's and 4 INT's. His height is what has kept offers at bay. His 3 offers are from HC's that are good QB coaches and know QB's well. Everyone in the SEC signs 3 star players that are rated 80 to 85 on the 247 rating system. Auburn signed an 83 that doesn't have great offers. LSU has a commit that is a safety that is 5-8 175 and has an offer from TCU and UTSA... that's it. South Carolina has signed a WR that is an 83 composite (79 2 star by just 247) with offers from UNC Charlotte, Maryland, Old Dominion, Duke, Vandy, and Wake Forest. Even Alabama has a 3 star 85 whose offers outside of Bama aren't all that impressive. I think every school in the SEC signs a handful of 3 stars they see something in. Based on their offer lists most of these players don't look like shoe in SEC worthy offers.

I will grant you with less signees this class it is a riskier proposition to sign him, but the blue shirt is the way around that.

[hogfan58]

Why is everyone just assuming that he will come here.....just because we offered and he's Jerry's grandson? If you were him and you could come here and be a back-up (maybe) or go to Texas Tech and start, where would YOU go?

[Inhogswetrust]

Why is everyone just assuming that he will come here.....just because we offered and he's Jerry's grandson? If you were him and you could come here and be a back-up (maybe) or go to Texas Tech and start, where would YOU go?

The really good players don't mind a challenge they relish it. They know there is no guarantee of starting anywhere. Besides I guess you've never been to Lubbock have you.........................

[Hugo Bezdek]

Sorry you will have to somehow make the case that he is deserving of an SEC scholarship and i think you can not! If you think you can it is a lie or justification without merit.

Because that's how the world works.

[Inhogswetrust]

Sorry you will have to somehow make the case that he is deserving of an SEC scholarship and i think you can not! If you think you can it is a lie or justification without merit.

Then him deserving or not that means you don't understand that common sense part.

[ifghog]

Then him deserving or not that means you don't understand that common sense part.

Common sense is highly lacking on this board anyway.  It's pretty amazing really.

[MissippHog]

John Steven Jones is a no-brainer offer by Arkansas.  Anyone who can't see it...well...I'll stop there.

It's amazing that this thread is even 4 pages long arguing this. 

[Hogfan46]

Why is everyone just assuming that he will come here.....just because we offered and he's Jerry's grandson? If you were him and you could come here and be a back-up (maybe) or go to Texas Tech and start, where would YOU go?

Oh, I don't know. Maybe because of this quote directly from him:

'He told SEC Country last spring he would ideally head to Fayetteville after high school.

"Yeah, that's my school, for sure," he said. "I'd like to end up there. If I ever get a chance to play at Arkansas, that's for sure where I'd be going."'

[Albert Einswine]

Oh, I don't know. Maybe because of this quote directly from him:

'He told SEC Country last spring he would ideally head to Fayetteville after high school.

"Yeah, that's my school, for sure," he said. "I'd like to end up there. If I ever get a chance to play at Arkansas, that's for sure where I'd be going."'

Situation is fluid?


Hogville...

[hawganatic]

Sorry you will have to somehow make the case that he is deserving of an SEC scholarship and i think you can not! If you think you can it is a lie or justification without merit.

That's easy... 

Because the head coach wants him here and offered.  That's really all the case that needs to be made.

[Pig in the Pokey]

John Stephen Jones‏ @JohnSJones15

This isn't me @JohnSJones_15


Underscores that people are trying to assume the identity of high school football players on twitter

shows why kids want to get to 4k followers and get verified by Twitter, too, but Hogville calls them drama queens for it 

[Pig in the Pokey]

I'll say it again. Do you want the future owner of the Dallas Cowboys to be an Arkansas alum or Texas Tech alum? He has offers from Texas Tech and SMU, and he's a proven winner. It's not a throw-away offer, even if he's never more than Grant Gunnell's backup or a slot receiver. If he had no better options I'd say let him walk-on, but I don't think you let him get away if you can get him to the Hill.

absolutely 100%, dear God these fools are dumb as darn

[Pig in the Pokey]

Yeah long game i get that, legacy player, with more money than God in his family should not require a scholarship when you can only have 85.

but you're ok with a kicker or a punter who will never see the field having one. do shut up.

[Pig in the Pokey]

Common sense is highly lacking on this board anyway.  It's pretty amazing really.

it's actually why I still come here mostly. this is like a social experiment. VERY few places on the web are guaranteed to make you dumber for reading like this. It's glorious.

[hawginbigd1]

Because that's how the world works.

Best reply ever, this is 100 the answer, everything else is BS!

[hawginbigd1]

but you're ok with a kicker or a punter who will never see the field having one. do shut up.

Look i tend to lay off your tons of stupid, you might want to recognize and find other targets! Just saying

[hogfan58]

The really good players don't mind a challenge they relish it. They know there is no guarantee of starting anywhere. Besides I guess you've never been to Lubbock have you.........................

I've been to Lubbock many, many times....

[orgkeith]

Kids have played for us who you thought were taking up a scholarship who in reality where not.  Rich kids that is.  Hint, hint:  wake up.

[texas tush hog]

Kids have played for us who you thought were taking up a scholarship who in reality where not.  Rich kids that is.  Hint, hint:  wake up.

The Lyndsey brothers come to mind and Jack ain't half bad.

[pigroots]

JSJ has the "it" factor. Sometimes that makes the jump and sometimes it doesn't with a QB. But you can tell he's one that will sit in the film room and be an asset to the other QB's at the least. He's a gamer and played his best when the lights were the brightest. This is a no lose situation if you offer a scholarship. Besides we have a few it looks like this year

[lumphog]

I bet JSJ can out run the Fayetteville Police...... sign him up   

[OneTuskOverTheLine™]

I'll say it again. Do you want the future owner of the Dallas Cowboys to be an Arkansas alum or Texas Tech alum? He has offers from Texas Tech and SMU, and he's a proven winner. It's not a throw-away offer, even if he's never more than Grant Gunnell's backup or a slot receiver. If he had no better options I'd say let him walk-on, but I don't think you let him get away if you can get him to the Hill.

I just don't see it coming down to having to offer him. If I were his dad or granddad I would foot the bill without flinching in an attempt to help my Alma Mater even more...

[FATHAWG08]

I can see him developing into the QB that UCF has that is giving Auburn fits. The kid is a baller. We need ballers.

[Albert Einswine]

I can see him developing into the QB that UCF has that is giving Auburn fits. The kid is a baller. We need ballers.

They have nearly identical physical stature and measurables coming out of high school. I was thinking the exact thing you posted.

[hawgfan4life]

Anybody arguing he should not get a scholarship should get their coaching certification and go coach since they know so much.  Spud Webb, Doug Flutie, JJ Meadows, and that LB that got flagged against FL a few years back says hello.

[Pork Ranger]

People worried about this kids size just take a look at the UCF quarterback.. 5'11" 175

[imtad16]

Nice video of HP VS Manvel.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xsDyvc9Jygo

After watching UCF's McKenzie Milton in the Peach Bowl, I really hope JSJ commits to us soon.

[Hugo Bezdek]

People worried about this kids size just take a look at the UCF quarterback.. 5'11" 175

That and anyone who thinks Mayfield is 6'0 is kidding themselves. Sony Michel is listed at 5-10 and when they were out for the coin toss last night they looked the same height to me. There are any number of 5'11 QBs that don't have any business on an FBS roster. That doesn't mean none of them belong. I don't have any problem with JSJ getting a scholarship.

[Highway Hog Sign]

Anyone else worried that JSJ going to Texas Tech? Seems like we're behind with this kid.

[ricepig]

Anyone else worried that JSJ going to Texas Tech? Seems like we're behind with this kid.

Nope, he can't take any visit here and be a blueshirt, and we can't visit him, if my memory serves me correctly on those rules.

[Highway Hog Sign]

Nope, he can't take any visit here and be a blueshirt, and we can't visit him, if my memory serves me correctly on those rules.

Ok. And we think that's the route he'll want to go? Just seems like he's showing interest in TT all of a sudden. The analyst for TT's 247 site predicted he'll end up there (FWIW).

[ricepig]

Ok. And we think that's the route he'll want to go? Just seems like he's showing interest in TT all of a sudden. The analyst for TT's 247 site predicted he'll end up there (FWIW).

He's said, given the opportunity, he'd like to play at the UofA like his Dad and grandfather. I guess we'll see what happens.

[OneTuskOverTheLine™]

I'll say it again. Do you want the future owner of the Dallas Cowboys to be an Arkansas alum or Texas Tech alum? He has offers from Texas Tech and SMU, and he's a proven winner. It's not a throw-away offer, even if he's never more than Grant Gunnell's backup or a slot receiver. If he had no better options I'd say let him walk-on, but I don't think you let him get away if you can get him to the Hill.

I'll say it again. If he were my grandson He'd turn down any scholarship anywhere and walk-on. I'd be pissed if he let them get enough pressure to feel they needed to offer him. His dad is a multi millionaire. His G-daddy is a Billionaire... If he wants to make his own way and not go to Arkansas I would make certain he told them that with a quickness too.

[greenEGnHAWGS]

Nope, he can't take any visit here and be a blueshirt, and we can't visit him, if my memory serves me correctly on those rules.

Why is this again?

[ricepig]

Why is this again?

In order to blueshirt, which is enroll as a walk on and count against the next recruiting class, the player can't take an official visit, and the school can't recruit his school. Last year we had two in Clary and Henry.

[SkeeterHawg]

Why is this again?

To blueshift you have to be unrecruited, no coaches visits, no official visits. Coach can tell you we have a spot for you as a blueshirt.

[twistitup]

#biggerthanFlutie

[Hogindasticks]

How many recruits you think he will bring in if Grandpa is watching every game next year?