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Arkansas could have the best offense in the SEC next season (or worst)

Started by younghog, February 17, 2017, 12:10:45 pm

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Wildhog

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Sed76

That's great, didn't think the offense was bad last year. We need a top defense to ever break that 7 or 8 win mark.

Hayden1865

Quote from: Sed76 on February 17, 2017, 02:34:22 pm
That's great, didn't think the offense was bad last year. We need a top defense to ever break that 7 or 8 win mark.
I don't even think we need a top defense. Just a middle of the pack rushing and passing defense I think would do it.
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bennyl08

Quote from: PorkSoda on May 05, 2016, 09:24:05 pm
damn I thought it was only a color, didn't realize it was named after a liqueur. leave it to benny to make me research the history of chartreuse

bennyl08

Quote from: younghog on February 17, 2017, 12:10:45 pm
Great Read.. going deep with statistics

https://www.seccountry.com/arkansas/arkansas-best-offense-in-sec

I thought we had one of the better offenses last year as well with one of the top qb's and top rb's. The biggest problem we faced as an offense, as predicted, wasn't talent but just mistakes. A year of experience under the belts and those mistakes should be much fewer.

The only question mark I really have for the offense is the receiving targets (i.e. WR/TE). The bad news, Cornelius is the only receiver to have more than a single career reception. The good news, Stewart and Pettway are coming into their third season. Jordan Jones is a second year. And, we are bringing in Martin as the top JUCO. So, we have talent that is just as good and possibly better coming in for the receivers, and while they lack in game experience, they've at least been practicing in the SEC for multiple seasons, Martin is coming in early and will have an SEC spring as well. For the TE's, we didn't get to use them much last year with the OL needing help. However, Cantrell and O'Grady both received good playing time and are themselves heading into their third seasons along with the highly recruited Gragg. On top of that, we bring in the receiving specialist TE Patton early in the summer as another top JUCO.
Quote from: PorkSoda on May 05, 2016, 09:24:05 pm
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Razorbackers

Been saying it for a while. The Arkansas Razorbacks have all the opportunity next year to surprise some folks. The schedule is long in the middle, but there isn't a murderer's row like there has been in years past. A senior QB, a talented backfield, 4 out of 5 starters back on the line, and we've legitimately recruited well at receiver and TE, and can possibly not see much of a drop in production, especially with a senior QB leading the charge.

Defense HAS to get better, and the line has to get better. Those are the 2 big question marks.

hamARchy in the USA

The offense definitely has potential.  Hope a lot of attention is devoted to the running game during this offseason.

HiggiePiggy

If a man speaks and no woman is around to hear him, is he still wrong?

oldfart

my biggest hope is that the OL learns how to pick up blitzes.  Often they were totally bewildered with rushers going by each side.. not knowing who to block so blocking no one...

Inhogswetrust

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Inhogswetrust

Quote from: HiggiePiggy on February 17, 2017, 09:46:21 pm
Just hope they find a second half offense this year. 

I'm hoping more for a FULL game defense.
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gchamblee

I think if our defense plays well, it won't matter which half our offense gets on a roll in, as long as it does.

HiggiePiggy

Quote from: Inhogswetrust on February 18, 2017, 05:00:06 pm
I'm hoping more for a FULL game defense.

That would be nice too. But having an offense in the second half of games probably would have won us a couple of more games last year. Our best year we had an offense in the 60s in the second half. All other years have been in the 100s with last year being the worst second half offense ranked 123rd in the nation.  Yes our defense needs to get a lot better, but so does our second half offense. 
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Hoggish1

Stupid title.  Should read, with your eggs have some Hogs for breakfast....

LZH

Quote from: gchamblee on February 18, 2017, 06:01:04 pm
I think if our defense plays well, it won't matter which half our offense gets on a roll in, as long as it does.

Dumbass answer.

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GoHogzzGo

Quote from: Wildhog on February 17, 2017, 12:14:09 pm
Yep.  It all hinges on the OL.

Agreed agreed agreed. Hope they are ready to rock this season.
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Inhogswetrust

Quote from: HiggiePiggy on February 18, 2017, 06:13:18 pm
That would be nice too. But having an offense in the second half of games probably would have won us a couple of more games last year. Our best year we had an offense in the 60s in the second half. All other years have been in the 100s with last year being the worst second half offense ranked 123rd in the nation.  Yes our defense needs to get a lot better, but so does our second half offense. 

Having ANY defense would have been more important to winning.
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HiggiePiggy

Quote from: Inhogswetrust on February 19, 2017, 02:52:19 am
Having ANY defense would have been more important to winning.

I don't disagree with that. All I am saying is our offense needs to be able to score in the second half of games.  We are a terrible team when it comes to the second half on both sides of the ball since Beliema has been head coach.  We show up for the first half of games and then get blown out in the second half.  We need to get both sides of the ball clicking. 
If a man speaks and no woman is around to hear him, is he still wrong?

italian9005


Tejano Jawg

Well, that was fairly optimistic I guess. I generally agree.

It was interesting to see that Austin's interception count was practically the same when we was pressured vs when he wasn't (8 to 7). It's just that his completion rate went down down down, so plays weren't made when they needed to be. And 33 sacks?...awful. We gotta protect him.

The rushing story is a strange one. Rawleigh had an excellent year, but so many times our o-line just didn't pass the eye test. Especially against the better teams.
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HamSammich

You guys either jump all on the articles if they are good and slam them if they are bad.... have you ever just thought For a second they are beating you ???? SEC country and all others put out favorable articles all year just to get you sheep to click. Click away sheep click away. Will the hogs have the best offense next year??? No. No. Click this

goodguytex

Our offense as a whole should be better, because overall they will be more experienced, and the coaching schemes and relationships between Oline coach and players will be more familiar.

Sure, we did lose some valued experience at receiver, but we get some new talent coming in, and return some great talent at TE, and I'm sure they will be used a lot in the passing game.

If Austin gets adequate protection, and that Oline can open those holes, we should see a more balanced but explosive offense. And hopefully, along with a much improved defense that will lead to 9 or more wins.

Potosihog

I attended a church in Kansas today with a family member.  The pastor of that church is a diehard Bama fan.  When I was introduced by my family member she told him, this is the Razorback fan I was telling you about.  He said "man, if you guys could just find a way to play 2 halves you would have a great team."  I said "Yeah, I've only been waiting for 50 years"

And again this year I will be rooting for he Hogs and hoping this is it.

PS I also reminded him that Saban will retire some day. 😀

MuskogeeHogFan

Quote from: HamSammich on February 19, 2017, 07:52:07 pm
You guys either jump all on the articles if they are good and slam them if they are bad.... have you ever just thought For a second they are beating you ???? SEC country and all others put out favorable articles all year just to get you sheep to click. Click away sheep click away. Will the hogs have the best offense next year??? No. No. Click this

What is "best"? If they mean the one that generates the most yards on average per game, probably not. If they mean the "most efficient", there is a chance that they could be right.

And, most articles are written with the idea in mind that it might compel someone to read them. I imagine that it is the very rare writer who says, "I'm going to write this but I doubt that anyone will read it." You are going to have positive articles and others with a less optimistic viewpoint. Fans like to read about their teams. It helps pass the time between the season and spring ball.
Go Hogs Go!

jgphillips3

Enos' offense is capable of generating a ton of points and being very efficient.  The defense and OL cannot be as bad as they were last year.  That's almost inconceivable.  Therefore, if we keep AA from getting planted by 300 pound linemen coming straight up the middle every series and the defense is just average, we could be one of the best offenses in a lot of statistics just by keeping AA upright and preventing enough points to keep the Rush game viable into the fourth quarter.

MuskogeeHogFan

We have had a pretty efficient offense in the SEC West the last 3 years despite the downturn in production in the second half of some games. These numbers (averages of the last 3 seasons) might surprise some of you, it surprised me as well.

Teams           Off Pts P/Yard         Def Pts P/Yard           Net Pts P/Yard
ALA                     .081                       .054                         .027
ARK                     .075                       .068                         .007
AUB                     .073                       .060                         .013
A&M                    .073                       .059                         .014
OleM                    .073                       .062                         .011
MSU                    .072                       .060                         .012
LSU                     .071                       .059                         .012

As you can see our offense over the past 3 years has been the second most productive in the West in terms of getting the most points out of the yards gained but you can also see that our defense has been the least productive in the West giving up the most points per defensive yard allowed. In fact the defense was next to last in the entire SEC. The worst...Kentucky with Def Pts P/Yard of .073.

We could easily have the most productive offense in the SEC next season especially if we solve the problem with consistent production. Now if the defense is improved significantly (come on Paul Rhoads) then this could turn out to be a better season than many expect.       
Go Hogs Go!

Razorbackers

Quote from: HamSammich on February 19, 2017, 07:52:07 pm
You guys either jump all on the articles if they are good and slam them if they are bad.... have you ever just thought For a second they are beating you ???? SEC country and all others put out favorable articles all year just to get you sheep to click. Click away sheep click away. Will the hogs have the best offense next year??? No. No. Click this

Whoa whoa whoa

Are you saying a website posts articles relevant to particular teams, and then hopes to have people click them?


12247

We are 2 or 3 critical penalties and maybe 10 yards of turf from being a very good top of the conference offense.  When its 3rd and 3 inside the 20, you got to go get it.  When its 2nd and 8 inside the 20, you cannot have a penalty of any kind.  When it's 2nd and goal from the 4, you must go get the 6 points.  We need the right call, the right personnel and the right mindset.  We need mind over matter.  If you are not mentally prepared, it doesn't matter, you lose.

I would be really surprised if we were to be the most productive offense because if we become a player in the SEC, teams that might have backed off a bit will now hit us with no mercy needing that to win.

But I do believe season 5 will be our best season under BB so far.  And that will mean more and better offense, defense and I hope, better special teams.

goodguytex

Quote from: 12247 on February 20, 2017, 08:27:23 am
We are 2 or 3 critical penalties and maybe 10 yards of turf from being a very good top of the conference offense.  When its 3rd and 3 inside the 20, you got to go get it.  When its 2nd and 8 inside the 20, you cannot have a penalty of any kind.  When it's 2nd and goal from the 4, you must go get the 6 points.  We need the right call, the right personnel and the right mindset.  We need mind over matter.  If you are not mentally prepared, it doesn't matter, you lose.

I would be really surprised if we were to be the most productive offense because if we become a player in the SEC, teams that might have backed off a bit will now hit us with no mercy needing that to win.

But I do believe season 5 will be our best season under BB so far.  And that will mean more and better offense, defense and I hope, better special teams.
when a defense is giving up large chunks of yards, and giving up a bunch of points, that puts pressure on the offense to have to score a bunch fast and play catch up.

If our defense can just help out some, it could be the difference between a 6 and 9-10 win season.

gchamblee


Cinco de Hogo

Rule of thumb under CBB. Whatever is supposed to happen, according to Hogville, expect the opposite. 

I suspect we will have a very good defense and suffer inexplicitable offensive troubles. 😊

TebowHater

Good article. The piece about AA only have one target with more than one catch to throw to is slightly misleading given our reliance on TEs (we have several who have multiple collegiate catches). Other than that, good read! No doubt WR is our biggest question mark, but despite how solid Keon/DM (and sometimes DR) were, we really never had that game-breaking WR that mandated a double team. If Martin is that guy, we could actually see our receiving situation be even better. Hopefully he doesn't suffer from the same difficulties transitioning as DR.

elksnort

Before I read anything, let me type this:

The offensive line must improve greatly before the Razorbacks have the best offense in the SEC next fall.