Evolution vs. The Shield

[acey33]

This match-up is going to get interesting. Who you got?

[Eddie Goodson]

The Cena/Wyatt feud is excellent. Last night was a memorable moment and Bray Wyatt is already near the top of the bisiness with a mic in his hands. Imo, that is the best feud going today. The Shield/Evo is a very close second. I become a bigger Reigns mark everytime I see him wrestle.

[RD]

The Wyatt/Cena feud is so interesting and so well written it's hard to wrap my mind around it. Last night was off the charts.

[hvsupastar]

Boy that was a really hurried way to put Ric Flair on RAW for no apparent reason at all. I'm going to say Evolution wins Sunday, the payoff for them will come at Summer Slam

[Big Papa Satan]

Boy that was a really hurried way to put Ric Flair on RAW for no apparent reason at all.

They had to drag him out of the bar.

[acey33]

They had to drag him out of the bar.

lol...It did appear he may have had a few drinks

[DeltaBoy]

Cena needs to get the Undertaker to have his back.

[pigture perfect]

The shield hasn't got a chance if HHH is involved. Wrestling may be fake, but his ego ain't.

[hvsupastar]

Cena needs to get the Undertaker to have his back.

If the streak was going to end, Cena should have did it. Hulk Hogan type heel turn. He literally would have been the most hated of all time

[Eddie Goodson]

Boy that was a really hurried way to put Ric Flair on RAW for no apparent reason at all. I'm going to say Evolution wins Sunday, the payoff for them will come at Summer Slam

Flair is the swerve. He will show up at Elim Chamber, screw over the Shield and join Evolution as they stand over them. See it coming from a mile away.

[jbell96]

Guys, Flair will not be at the PPV this weekend. He is not scheduled. He was so drunk on Monday that he forgot what he said when he was interviewed on the post Raw show. Batista is taking time off after the PPV to promote his movie so I have a feeling the Shield goes over and he takes the fall.

Per pwinsider.com

Currently, Batista is slated to work the Extreme Rules PPV and be at the WWE Raw and Smackdown tapings in Albany, NY and Buffalo, NY.

As of this writing, those are his final scheduled appearances for some time with WWE as he will be doing marketing and promotion for Marvel's Guardians of the Galaxy.

[Big Papa Satan]

IIRC: Flair's last two WWE events: drunk both times.

Will there be a third?

[Big Papa Satan]

[jbcarol]

Steve KISW @stp999
Still blown away by what @WWERollins just did! #ExtremeRules #sethrollins @WWENetwork #balconydive

Recap

Thanks Doug, for the catch on the link!

[Doug]

The recap link above isn't quite working, so use this one instead:

http://www.cleveland.com/entertainment/index.ssf/2014/05/wwe_extreme_rules_recap_the_sh.html#incart_river

[Eddie Goodson]

Put me in the Batista has not been worth the trouble group. He has added nothing to WWE since his return. He is easily the most overhyped maineventer of the last fifteen years. He ranks below Goldberg at the bottom of the usefulness list.

[jbell96]

Shield vs Evolution easily lived up to the hype last night. Just an all out brawl that ended the way it should have, with Batista on his back after a Reigns spear. That said, I really am digging the new Evolution t-shirts.

[hvsupastar]

Put me in the Batista has not been worth the trouble group. He has added nothing to WWE since his return. He is easily the most overhyped maineventer of the last fifteen years. He ranks below Goldberg at the bottom of the usefulness list.

Goldberg at least has a big following

[Richard_white]

Put me in the Batista has not been worth the trouble group. He has added nothing to WWE since his return. He is easily the most overhyped maineventer of the last fifteen years. He ranks below Goldberg at the bottom of the usefulness list.

I don't know why so much hate for Goldberg. I get it that he ended Hart's career with a bad kick but Goldberg was a better in ring performer than he gets credits for.

The match he and DDP had is a classic.

[Eddie Goodson]

I don't know why so much hate for Goldberg. I get it that he ended Hart's career with a bad kick but Goldberg was a better in ring performer than he gets credits for.

The match he and DDP had is a classic.

I don't know how anyone can look positively at Goldberg in the ring and negatively at John Cena. Cena is 20 times the in ring guy Golberg was.

I do not like Golberg because he was dangerous. it is a miracle he did not cripple someone.

[Big Papa Satan]

I don't know why so much hate for Goldberg. I get it that he ended Hart's career with a bad kick but Goldberg was a better in ring performer than he gets credits for.

The match he and DDP had is a classic.

Fun fact: Goldberg was briefly knocked out in that match, and after coming to, was on queer street for the rest of it.  Page carried him through the finish.

[Richard_white]

I don't know how anyone can look positively at Goldberg in the ring and negatively at John Cena. Cena is 20 times the in ring guy Golberg was.

I do not like Golberg because he was dangerous. it is a miracle he did not cripple someone.

Really?  Mr Botch Cena? 

The difference between the two was WCW put Goldberg in a bad situation little training. 

9 years is too much.  That's right.  T-Shirts.  Funny thing is, just like Punk said, when you have 10-15 different color shirts, when you design a damn goat as your #1 shirt (Bryan) and when the company tries all its might to keep him as the #1, of course he is going to be the top guy.

[Richard_white]

Fun fact: Goldberg was briefly knocked out in that match, and after coming to, was on queer street for the rest of it.  Page carried him through the finish.

Queer Street?

Actually the ending was only a couple minutes later after Goldberg was knocked out.  Not sure how Paige carried him the rest of the way.

[Big Papa Satan]

Queer Street?

Actually the ending was only a couple minutes later after Goldberg was knocked out.  Not sure how Paige carried him the rest of the way.

queer street
A term used to describe the condition of someone who just got clocked lovely, but is still barely standing somehow, or was knocked down and unwisely got back up. Marked by wobbly legs and a glazed over look in the eyes. Many men have been sent here courtesy of Mike Tyson (see Michael Spinks in 1988). Has nothing to do with sexual orientation.

They'd had a close 2 7/8ths count planned after Page hit the cutter, but Goldberg just kicked out at 2.  Page found out backstage that Goldberg didn't remember any of it.

Page tells the story in one of Austin's podcasts.  Had to tell Bill to hit the jackhammer here, do this, etc.

[hogsanity]

The shield hasn't got a chance if HHH is involved. Wrestling may be fake, but his ego ain't.

Really?  Look at the last 3 years and all of HHH's most high profile matches.  Dropped 2 to UT at wrestlemanias. Dropped one to Lesnar at a PPV.  Had Lesnar "break" his arm on raw.  Lost to DB this year at WM this year.

This whole evolution re-do was just a way to keep Batista on the card, because his return has been a disaster. Also, needed some way to keep Orton relevant.  His feud with DB had run it's course, and right now there is no one for him to feud with.  Eventually he will run a program with Reigns.

[Eddie Goodson]

HHH has done an excellent job putting over talent the last two years. He fully understands this is about to be his company and he is doing a good job preparing talent for the future. Three years ago the WWE was in a mess. The pipeline for future stars was void. NXT has fixed that and HHH is directly responsible for its success.

Once upon a time I would have said he wouldn't let his ego put over new talent but that has changed. Honestly, I think Ric Flair finally rubbed off on him and taught him how to be a proper heel. Heel get people over. It's what they do.

[zane]

HHH has done an excellent job putting over talent the last two years. He fully understands this is about to be his company and he is doing a good job preparing talent for the future. Three years ago the WWE was in a mess. The pipeline for future stars was void. NXT has fixed that and HHH is directly responsible for its success.

Once upon a time I would have said he wouldn't let his ego put over new talent but that has changed. Honestly, I think Ric Flair finally rubbed off on him and taught him how to be a proper heel. Heel get people over. It's what they do.

This

[hvsupastar]

They said HHH has a direct video line to the nxt gym he can watch at any time. If that's not dedication. Not to mention the pressure it gives talent to work hard

[TheRazorback500]

The sledgehammer takes it to a new level. Payback's gonna be a WAR!

[jbcarol]

WWE: Was Seth Rollins' heel turn the most shocking ever?

Richard Hoy-Browne picks out three of the heel turns that most shocked wrestling fans.

Steve Austin shakes hands with Vince McMahon (2001)...

CM Punk turns on The Rock (2012)...

Hulk Hogan joins the NWO (1996)...


...After an odd ceremony to celebrate Rusev's Russian Legacy took place on Raw, Roman Reigns appeared with Dean Ambrose and Seth Rollins ahead of his match with Randy Orton.

With a man down, Orton was accompanied by Triple H, who was carrying a sledgehammer. The Shield responded, with Rollins grabbing chairs as he prepared for a brawl.

But it was Rollins who would then cause pandemonium, shocking everyone with a moment of madness that looks to change to course of the WWE. He struck Reigns with a chair, before launching an attack on a flabbergasted Ambrose.

[TheRazorback500]

New member of Evolution? The beginning of Reigns' solo career? What about Ambrose? Stay tuned.

[jbell96]

The follow up next week will be the key to the success of this angle. I didn't like the turn at first, because of the shock, but I'm intrigued now. Whether you agree with the turn or not, it got people talking, and that is exactly what WWE wanted.`

[Eddie Goodson]

Just watched it. It was unexpected for sure, but I think I like it. It immediately elevated Rollins, I think. Rollins and Orton will work very well together as a tag team. Lots of potential for sure.

[jbell96]

As long as Rollins is treated as an equal & not a lackey for HHH and Orton, then this should work out nicely. Friend of mine said the only time he heard stunned silence like that was after Taker lost.

[Richard_white]

I don't care for it.  I'd rather have Sheamus heel turn and join evolution.  I do not like a face Sheamus.

[TheRazorback500]

IMO Sheamus doesn't fit in with Evolution. He could turn heel and go after the belts when Bryan is cleared.

[zane]

IMO Sheamus doesn't fit in with Evolution. He could turn heel and go after the belts when Bryan is cleared.

I agree with this. I think a Sheamus turn is coming but he doesn't fit with Evolution. This will give Rollins a big boost and this signals the beginning of a big RR push.

[Doug]

I don't think we're done with the turns. Reigns is positioned for a HUGE face push right now... just need Ambrose to turn on him, as well.  I think we just might see that happen sooner, rather than later.

[who knows]

They don't dare move some one into the shield do they?

[Doug]

Not if they're trying to push Roman, no. They need to break him off completely and let him go at it alone. Have the new faction as Haich, Orton, Rollins and Ambrose, but increase Rollins' role. Have all four of 'em go after Reigns.

[Richard_white]

Yeah look for another swerve at the PPV.

[hogsanity]

Alot will have to do with Bryans health. If he is going to be out much past MITB, it may accelerate Reigns push as the fans will really back him, although not to the level we have seen with DB the last 6-8 months.

[jbell96]

Steph's announcement on Monday was legit. If DB can't go at MITB, the MITB match will be for the title.

[hogsanity]

Steph's announcement on Monday was legit. If DB can't go at MITB, the MITB match will be for the title.

Very well may be, but if it is, do they give it to a heel to hold until DB can come back?  Don't see it going back to Orton, Batista is gone. Doubt they would put it on HHH, too soon for Ceasaro or Reigns, and no real way to put it on Cena, AGAIN,.

[SwinerBock]

If anyone would have went heel, I thought for sure it would have been Ambrose, not Rollins.  Furthermore, what was up with Ambrose receiving most of the beatdown from Rollins, rather than Reigns?  An injury angle, maybe?

[jbell96]

If anyone would have went heel, I thought for sure it would have been Ambrose, not Rollins.  Furthermore, what was up with Ambrose receiving most of the beatdown from Rollins, rather than Reigns?  An injury angle, maybe?

You see the pic of Reigns' back? He caught it worse than Ambrose did by the look of it.

[Richard_white]

Rollins unloaded on Ambrose. It reminded me of Rock/Mankind I quit match.  Or Austin/Rock WrestleMania chair shots.  It was good.

[SwinerBock]

You see the pic of Reigns' back? He caught it worse than Ambrose did by the look of it.

Just goin by the video.  Rollins gave Reigns 2, maybe 3, chair shots.  Rollins freakin broke the chair beating Ambrose.

[Eddie Goodson]

If anyone would have went heel, I thought for sure it would have been Ambrose, not Rollins.  Furthermore, what was up with Ambrose receiving most of the beatdown from Rollins, rather than Reigns?  An injury angle, maybe?

I took it to mean he was taking out Ambrose and he left Reigns for Orton. Orton focused on Reigns when he took the ring.

[TheRazorback500]

I took it to mean he was taking out Ambrose and he left Reigns for Orton. Orton focused on Reigns when he took the ring.

Good point. Like sizes tend to fight each other in these types of feuds. Sets up a new Evolution where Rollins is the quickness, Orton is the power and HHH can sit back and egg it all on. Remains to be seen whether Ambrose and Reigns stay together as a team.