Henry isn't the only player in trouble...

[Hawgon]

I'd bet it would be hard to miss Courtney Fortson tearing across the Wal-Mart parking lot towards 6th st.

Yeah, but he would probably run too far and run right into the cops.

[Oliver]

"
Don't know why, but that mental image is pretty funny...

Probably because it reminds me of Whoopi Goldberg running away from the villain in Ghost.

[Mark Lericos]

BS. - i got a call into my homediggity at WM Corp in Asset Protection to get the biblical truth...will update when i receive it.

   The 25 dollar limit is the key to all of this.

[kingofdequeen]

I believe it...we are t-3rd in the ESS EEE CEE for steals per game.

weak.

[Hawgndaaz]

here's one of several articles i found that says they only prosecute if the value is $25 or more.

http://money.cnn.com/2006/07/13/news/companies/walmart_shoplifters/index.htm
July 13 2006: 7:22 AM EDT


NEW YORK (CNNMoney.com) -- Wal-Mart is moving away from what it called a zero-tolerance policy on prosecuting shoplifters and will now only prosecute anyone caught taking merchandise worth $25 or more, according to a published report.

[Jim Harris]

I would love to see Corliss as a UofA assistant coach.

why? Because he is Corliss?

Has he recruited one single big-time prospect to an NCAA university in his life?

[Hogs-In-My-Heart]

why? Because he is Corliss?

Has he recruited one single big-time prospect to an NCAA university in his life?

Obviously because he is Corliss has something to do with it, but mainly because I think young players would respond to him and respect him.

[elksnort]

Let's see.

Corliss Williamson or Tom Ostrom?

Hhmmm??

[jst01]

here's one of several articles i found that says they only prosecute if the value is $25 or more.

http://money.cnn.com/2006/07/13/news/companies/walmart_shoplifters/index.htm
July 13 2006: 7:22 AM EDT





NEW YORK (CNNMoney.com) -- Wal-Mart is moving away from what it called a zero-tolerance policy on prosecuting shoplifters and will now only prosecute anyone caught taking merchandise worth $25 or more, according to a published report.

hmmm.

nabbing a $12 twelve pack of Blue Moon: $00

swiping a $6 Digiorno Pizza: $00

snatching a $5 pack of Camel lights: $00

Getting caught stealing from Wal-mart, but goods only totaling $24.96 after tax: PRICELESS

[want2be]

why? Because he is Corliss?

Has he recruited one single big-time prospect to an NCAA university in his life?

It doesn't ake a rocket scientist to be a good recrutier.........good personality, respectfull and honest with parents, knowing how to close...and how much credit would he have with a championship ring and  pro career.

And in addtion to recruiting think how much he could help with the existing players who are having all kind of on the court and off court issues. Plus he has a great relationship with Nolan who I am sure wouldn't mind helping behind the scenes.

[kingofdequeen]

   The 25 dollar limit is the key to all of this.

i'll be darned.

Scoop'd again.

[cdclark09]

Corliss isn't the answer... half of the people want Pel fired for someone proven and experienced, but if he's not fired, then we should hire Corliss, who has ZERO coaching/recruiting experience.  I don't see the logic.  I'm not saying Corliss can't or won't be a good coach for us or anyone but I can't see him as the coaching change that would turn us around next year.

[beachhawg]

Just remember, this wasnt the first rodeo for some of the players involved.  At least one has been caught before.

[Hogs-In-My-Heart]

Corliss isn't the answer... half of the people want Pel fired for someone proven and experienced, but if he's not fired, then we should hire Corliss, who has ZERO coaching/recruiting experience.  I don't see the logic.  I'm not saying Corliss can't or won't be a good coach for us or anyone but I can't see him as the coaching change that would turn us around next year.

Corliss is coaching now, so he does have a little experience; however, I think having someone the players can look up to and respect, someone they will play hard for, someone who sets an example for them to live by and helps shape their lives into something better is just as important as recruiting.  With that said, I think Corliss COULD be a positive in the recruiting area as well.  Everyone has to start somewhere.

[Karma]

Pork,

Quick question.  It seems that many of the problems you have with Pel aren't related to winning or losing, but the discipline problems and inconsistent treatment of players. Is this something that started in January or has it gone on all season? I know that as recently as early January you were a big Pel fan and supporter.

[The Boar War]

Corliss isn't the answer... half of the people want Pel fired for someone proven and experienced, but if he's not fired, then we should hire Corliss, who has ZERO coaching/recruiting experience.  I don't see the logic.  I'm not saying Corliss can't or won't be a good coach for us or anyone but I can't see him as the coaching change that would turn us around next year.

Doesn't Corliss coach at Arkansas Baptist Junior College?  I'm not saying it's the right move.  Nor do I believe a coach on the "hot seat" will decide to bring in a local legend.  But it does count for some experience for an assistant job.

[cdclark09]

I don't think anyone was talking about Corliss replacing Pelphrey as head coach; but as an assistant. 

but if he's not fired, then we should hire Corliss

No crap...

But the complaint is that we need proven experience coaches but then turn around and say we need to hire an assistant with no experience.

[cdclark09]

Doesn't Corliss coach at Arkansas Baptist Junior College? 

Oh, didn't realize he was proven and experienced.  I forget they recruit against Texas and Florida and Auburn down there. You'd get better experience bringing in an AAU coach.

[Hogs-In-My-Heart]

But the complaint is that we need proven experience coaches but then turn around and say we need to hire an assistant with no experience.
[/quote]

Let's see.

Corliss Williamson or Tom Ostrom?

Hhmmm??

What he said.....

[Porkatarian]

Pork,

Quick question.  It seems that many of the problems you have with Pel aren't related to winning or losing, but the discipline problems and inconsistent treatment of players. Is this something that started in January or has it gone on all season? I know that as recently as early January you were a big Pel fan and supporter.

I still like Pel as a person.  I just think he's in over his head as our head coach.  The off the court disipline problems have been happening since before the Red White game.  In fact, the same parties involved then just happened to be at Wal-Mart together the night of this latest incident...


Porkatarian out...

[Porkatarian]

Corliss isn't the answer, but if he's not fired, then we should hire Corliss, who has ZERO coaching/recruiting experience.  I don't see the logic. .

Corliss had a very nice career in the NBA and is currently head coach at Arkansas Baptist.  I think he would make a GREAT asst coach for Pelphrey.  However, I was told today that Pelphrey will not fire Tom Ostrum under any circumstances.   


Porkatarian out...

[jst01]

In fact, the same parties involved then just happened to be at Wal-Mart together the night of this latest incident...

Thugs will attract other Thugs.

[Hogs-In-My-Heart]

Well crud.  It was a good idea while it lasted.

[cdclark09]

What he said.....

Fair enough but that's not really my point.  My point is how can you(not you, you. other people, you) say Pel got in over his head and he doesn't have the experience to do this, and then turn around and say we need to our assistants and hire a Razorback legend just because his names is Corliss and he doesn't really have any experience?  That doesn't make sense... seems to me if Pel is too inexperienced to do this alone, he needs to be hiring experienced assistants that have been around the block a few times.  Pel doesn't need to be teaching his assistants the ropes.  I'm not at all saying he wouldn't be a good addition to the staff, because I think he would be a positive addition, but if Pels lack of big time experience is one of our big concerns about him... bringing in even less experience coaches is exactly the opposite of what he needs to do at this point.

[Razorod]

Well crud.  It was a good idea while it lasted.

there are two other assistant coaches. pel may not feel as loyal to either one.

[Buck Ocean]

I still like Pel as a person.  I just think he's in over his head as our head coach.  The off the court disipline problems have been happening since before the Red White game.  In fact, the same parties involved then just happened to be at Wal-Mart together the night of this latest incident...


Porkatarian out...

So Montrell McDonald is still in town? Awesome.

[WilsonHog]

However, I was told today that Pelphrey will not fire Tom Ostrum under any circumstances.  


Porkatarian out...

That could be a mistake.

[hawgpharmer]

   The 25 dollar limit is the key to all of this.

Thanks, Mark.  Some people won't listen to some on this board.

[Karma]

That could be a mistake.

Mistaken information, or a mistake by Pel if he refuses to fire Ostrum?

[thirtythree]

huh.  i hadnt heard that one.

Of course it's another being started with no factual; basis and it's still up.

Please delete that post Mods.

[athunt]

I believe Corliss would improve any team in America if he was on the bench teaching and mentoring. Who better to exemplify being Nasty on the floor and getting it done off the floor.  He can show kids that you dont have to carry the same attitude you show on the court off the court.

As for recruiting, I dont know of a kid who plays basketball in Arkansas who doesnt know the phrase "Big Nasty" or who doesnt know who Corliss is.  With the upcoming superstars we have in this state, who better to send into their living room than an Arkansas legend.

[Tomhog™]

That could be a mistake.

What I was thinking.  If Pel digs his heels in, he might find himself out next season.

[WilsonHog]

Mistaken information, or a mistake by Pel if he refuses to fire Ostrum?

Mistake if he refuses to fire Ostrom.

Strikes me that a coach of a team that has lot 15 of 17 with as many off-court problems as we have ain't in much of a position to dictate terms.

[Tomhog™]

Mistake if he refuses to fire Ostrom.

Strikes me that a coach of a team that has lot 15 of 17 with as many off-court problems as we have ain't in much of a position to dictate terms.

NOW LISTEN MISTER! They have only lost 14 of the last 16 so far!

[jst01]

NOW LISTEN MISTER! They have only lost 14 of the last 16 so far!

ah, that quote will never get old. especially when you can picture Rick turning red in the face and yelling it.

[idochog]

Corliss had a very nice career in the NBA and is currently head coach at Arkansas Baptist.  I think he would make a GREAT asst coach for Pelphrey.  However, I was told today that Pelphrey will not fire Tom Ostrum under any circumstances.  


Porkatarian out...

That is my big problem w/ Ostrum and Pelphrey.  Ostrum is Pel's buddy and longtime friend which is a problem

[Hawgndaaz]

Mistake if he refuses to fire Ostrom.

Strikes me that a coach of a team that has lot 15 of 17 with as many off-court problems as we have ain't in much of a position to dictate terms.

I agree. You know, I still like Pel as a person too, and think that 5 years from now he could be a great coach once he gets his method and policy down.

BUT, if he doesn't get rid of Ostrom, I am out of the "I still like Pel as a person" crowd.

[ruarealhogfan]

We get it...you don't like Ostrum, but that's Pel's call...It's his job on the line & none of ours...Pretty much the same was said about Willy Robinson (he needed to be fired) but in the end it's the coaches call.

[WilsonHog]

We get it...you don't like Ostrum, but that's Pel's call...It's his job on the line & none of ours...Pretty much the same was said about Willy Robinson (he needed to be fired) but in the end it's the coaches call.

Sure it is.

Just as the consequences of any such call by Pel would be Jeff Long's call. That's how the chain of command works.

[Hawgndaaz]

We get it...you don't like Ostrum, but that's Pel's call...It's his job on the line & none of ours...Pretty much the same was said about Willy Robinson (he needed to be fired) but in the end it's the coaches call.

No, folks wanted WR gone because we were getting smoked on defense for 3 weeks in a row at the beginning of the season.

1. Our defense improved throughout the season
2. Willy Robinson didn't get in fights with players.
3  It was his first season (Ostrom's 2nd)

[klp1]

Corliss had a very nice career in the NBA and is currently head coach at Arkansas Baptist.  I think he would make a GREAT asst coach for Pelphrey.  However, I was told today that Pelphrey will not fire Tom Ostrum under any circumstances.  


Porkatarian out...

Unless this changes, my tickets will not be renewed

[elksnort]

What will Henry be doing tonight?

Having chips and dip in front of the tv watching the game. Playing some kind of video game, studying?

[cdclark09]

Unless this changes, my tickets will not be renewed

If he doesn't fire Ostrum you will not renew?

[jst01]

So what. Let him go

Exactly. Unless you're the next Lebron, the Hogs dont have to have you.

[Tomhog™]

At least Willy is a hell of a lot better recruiter than Ostrum is.

[savimbi2002]

with Ostrum. I don't read the board as much as I should but I can't seem to find factual answers. I dont want to hear rumors or "I know" but can't tell. Why is he so disliked?

[ConHawg]

I wish Pel would do all of the talking during the timeouts.  He throws a word in edgewise but lets Ostrum do all the coaching.

Shut that little guy up and earn your millions!

[Porkatarian]

with Ostrum. I don't read the board as much as I should but I can't seem to find factual answers. I dont want to hear rumors or "I know" but can't tell. Why is he so disliked?

Some don't like Ostrum because he ruined any chance we had of signing Ky Madden. 

Some don't like Ostrum b/c he has alienated the well respected Rob Evans, who won't be back next season.

Some don't like Ostrum because he didn't want to offer Jeremy Adams during the early signing period, only to offer him during the late signing period and then lose him to A&M.

Some don't like Ostrum b/c he whiffed on every major target he was recruiting during the only signing period.

Some don't like Ostrum for having to physically restrained from attacking Welsh prior to the Ole Miss game.  Some actually applaud him for that.

It doesn't matter.  Pelphrey has told those close to him that he will NOT fire Ostrum under any circumstances.



Porkatarian out...

[savimbi2002]

Pork: Thanks. Appreciate the insight.

[donewithdale]

AD's should not force staff changes.  If they don't think their head coaches can manage their own assistants and the head coaches keep assistants that are detrimental to their program, the head coach should be held responsible and fired if necessary.  If Pel wants to be loyal to an asst that is hurting recruiting and the development of the team, he is putting himself and his wishes above the program and should have to deal with the consequences if his program isn't succeeding in spite of this assistant.  Did Long start telling DVH to change hitting coaches after we were at the top of the SEC in strikeouts and near the bottom in batting avg?  No because DVH is trusted as a leader.  Its a slippery slope when the AD meddles.