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Michael_E_Davis

If he is unable to produce a winning season this year?   For many of you (including myself)  this year is crucial.  It's Bielema's last year to prove he can put together a winning team at Arkansas,  probably not in Jeff Long's mind,  but in the minds of many fans.

However, I was listening to Sports Talk yesterday (I believe)  and someone on the show stated that he believed Bielema would resign if he didn't have a winning season this year. I was curious everyone else's opinion on this.  Is Bielema the kind of coach that would step down if he couldn't do the job - or would he just keep grinding out bad to mediocre seasons?

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Quote from: Michael_E_Davis on August 11, 2017, 11:09:10 am
If he is unable to produce a winning season this year?   For many of you (including myself)  this year is crucial.  It's Bielema's last year to prove he can put together a winning team at Arkansas,  probably not in Jeff Long's mind,  but in the minds of many fans.

However, I was listening to Sports Talk yesterday (I believe)  and someone on the show stated that he believed Bielema would resign if he didn't have a winning season this year. I was curious everyone else's opinion on this.  Is Bielema the kind of coach that would step down if he couldn't do the job - or would he just keep grinding out bad to mediocre seasons?

He will have a winning season. Discussion over.
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Notice he says your boy instead of "our coach". Very telling.

I'm not worried. If he recruits like he did here Louisville will fire him in about 5 years.

 

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Quote from: FANONTHEHILL on August 11, 2017, 11:19:14 am
People leave $4 million a year jobs beceause of message boards all the time don't they?

To piggyback off that^, college football coaches, some of the most competitive people on this planet, usually walk away from a tough job, don't they?

Wildhog

A. He'll win more games than he loses.
B. IF he did have a losing season, I don't know if he'd resign, but he wouldn't be fired.
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Quote from: Michael_E_Davis on August 11, 2017, 11:09:10 am
If he is unable to produce a winning season this year?   For many of you (including myself)  this year is crucial.  It's Bielema's last year to prove he can put together a winning team at Arkansas,  probably not in Jeff Long's mind,  but in the minds of many fans.

However, I was listening to Sports Talk yesterday (I believe)  and someone on the show stated that he believed Bielema would resign if he didn't have a winning season this year. I was curious everyone else's opinion on this.  Is Bielema the kind of coach that would step down if he couldn't do the job - or would he just keep grinding out bad to mediocre seasons?



No.  I our best hope would be he'd to a HDN and most of his buyout would be offset by his new salary, probability at a lower tiered big ten school.
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hawgwash

Gotta love a comment disguised as a question.

GuvHog

Quote from: jackflash on August 11, 2017, 11:20:59 am
I think the answer would be no

I actually believe he would but that isn't going to be an issue anyway. I still believe they'll go 9-3 in regular season play.
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MuskogeeHogFan

Here we are just before the season and we are already asking questions like this? If you don't want to email Coach Bielema and ask him directly, just wait until the end of the season and see. August 31st can't get here soon enough.
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Michael_E_Davis

Quote from: hawgwash on August 11, 2017, 11:49:09 am
Gotta love a comment disguised as a question.

It isn't a comment.  It was a question as it was stated.  As I wrote, if you would have bothered to read,  that a person on sports talk brought this possibility up.  I didn't come up with it.  I was just curious other people's opinions on it.
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GuvHog

Quote from: MuskogeeHogFan on August 11, 2017, 12:06:25 pm
Here we are just before the season and we are already asking questions like this? If you don't want to email Coach Bielema and ask him directly, just wait until the end of the season and see. August 31st can't get here soon enough.

I agree. The discussion is meaningless because it isn't going to be an issue.

I 100% agree with your last sentence. I'm more than ready!!
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Hogopolis

Arkansas is going to win 9 games, so this is a moot point. 

Justifiable Hogicide

Quote from: Michael_E_Davis on August 11, 2017, 11:09:10 am
If he is unable to produce a winning season this year?   For many of you (including myself)  this year is crucial.
Rest easy. Expect a winning season and a long fun ride ahead with Coach B.

gchamblee

Quote from: Michael_E_Davis on August 11, 2017, 12:08:08 pm
It isn't a comment.  It was a question as it was stated.  As I wrote, if you would have bothered to read,  that a person on sports talk brought this possibility up.  I didn't come up with it.  I was just curious other people's opinions on it.

Everyone did bother to read that trash in the op, and everyone is responding accordingly. We know you have wet dreams about coach being fired, but can you please stop sharing them with us?

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Quote from: Michael_E_Davis on August 11, 2017, 11:09:10 am
If he is unable to produce a winning season this year?   For many of you (including myself)  this year is crucial.  It's Bielema's last year to prove he can put together a winning team at Arkansas,  probably not in Jeff Long's mind,  but in the minds of many fans.

However, I was listening to Sports Talk yesterday (I believe)  and someone on the show stated that he believed Bielema would resign if he didn't have a winning season this year. I was curious everyone else's opinion on this.  Is Bielema the kind of coach that would step down if he couldn't do the job - or would he just keep grinding out bad to mediocre seasons?


Would you?

swineology

Quote from: Michael_E_Davis on August 11, 2017, 11:09:10 am
If he is unable to produce a winning season this year?   For many of you (including myself)  this year is crucial.  It's Bielema's last year to prove he can put together a winning team at Arkansas,  probably not in Jeff Long's mind,  but in the minds of many fans.

However, I was listening to Sports Talk yesterday (I believe) and someone on the show stated that he believed Bielema would resign if he didn't have a winning season this year. I was curious everyone else's opinion on this.  Is Bielema the kind of coach that would step down if he couldn't do the job - or would he just keep grinding out bad to mediocre seasons?

Stopped reading right there.


Hurry up Aug 31st


code red

Quote from: Hogopolis on August 11, 2017, 12:18:23 pm
Arkansas is going to win 9 games, so this is a moot point. 
I'll take the under
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HawgTide

Quote from: Justifiable Hogicide on August 11, 2017, 12:23:02 pm
Rest easy. Expect a winning season and a long fun ride ahead with Coach B.

I'm excited for our football season just not the bitching season. I fully expect a lot of shots taken all year no matter how many we win.

 

cityhog

Quote from: Hogopolis on August 11, 2017, 12:18:23 pm
Arkansas is going to win 9 games, so this is a moot point. 

oh man are you setting yourself up for a sad fall season

Youngsta71701

Quote from: cityhog on August 11, 2017, 12:53:39 pm
oh man are you setting yourself up for a sad fall season
Yep it's better for him to predict 6 and we win 9 than it is for him to predict 9 and we win 6. That's what Rainwater is doing. That unreached potential always seem to sting a little bit more.
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Next1_04

Talking about our coach stepping down right before kickoff. Brilliant.

hawgfan4life

Losing season?  Do you mean total wins and losses or are you asking about only conference games?  BB has had one single losing season his entire coaching career and that was his first season at AR.  Petrino had a losing season with AR and the previous coaches all had 1 or more losing seasons going back to Jack Crowe.  The OP is simply a bad question, bait for people to poo pooh the coach they don't like, or some other negative goal.  I wish Mods would instantly trash this type of stuff.  Look up most HC and you will see that most have a year or two of losing seasons.  Gary Patterson is a great coach and he has had 4 losing seasons at TCU.  Patterson has had LOSING seasons two of the last four seasons.  What he did in those other years demonstrates his ability to coach.  BB has demonstrated his ability to coach and recruit.  Is he a top 10 coach?  Doesn't look like it with the past couple of seasons, but prior to that was building a program back up from a dumpster fire.  Losing season just doesn't seem likely unless the wheels fall off due to injuries and/or player suspensions.  Fans clamoring for a new coach if he only goes 7 or 8 wins have a right to want more and be a little impatient, but would serve themselves a little better with a view of the big picture.  We play in a "Division" of the SEC that has four teams that have zero excuse to NOT be a better program than us every year right now.  There are two other teams in the division that have every reason to expect to compete with us on an annual basis.  Those don't include the Eastern games and non-conference games we play annually.

Frank Beamer didn't get Va Tech to a bowl game until year 7 of his tenure.  He averaged 4 wins per season his first six years at Va Tech.  He built them into a power, but it took a long time to build them into a power in the Big East and he then maintained them as a power in the ACC which wasn't anything like the SEC in most of those years.

All the talk about getting a better coach is just silly right now.  AR has shown flashes of what we want far more than they have been embarrassing.  Slow and steady improvement is better than flashes and crashes.  Bill Snyder took a while to build K State into the program they are today and they still had a 6 win season two seasons ago.

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A WINNING season? Come the hell on, dude. My God.
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Pig in the Pokey

Quote from: cityhog on August 11, 2017, 12:53:39 pm
oh man are you setting yourself up for a sad fall season
sounds like you are the one who has already surrendered the season, bruh.
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Inhogswetrust

Quote from: Michael_E_Davis on August 11, 2017, 11:09:10 am
If he is unable to produce a winning season this year?   For many of you (including myself)  this year is crucial.  It's Bielema's last year to prove he can put together a winning team at Arkansas,  probably not in Jeff Long's mind,  but in the minds of many fans.

However, I was listening to Sports Talk yesterday (I believe)  and someone on the show stated that he believed Bielema would resign if he didn't have a winning season this year. I was curious everyone else's opinion on this.  Is Bielema the kind of coach that would step down if he couldn't do the job - or would he just keep grinding out bad to mediocre seasons?



I think you should step down as a mediocre fan for starting a topic like this right before the season starts....................
If I'm going to cheer players and coaches in victory, I damn sure ought to be man enough to stand with them in defeat.

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Quote from: Michael_E_Davis on August 11, 2017, 11:09:10 am
If he is unable to produce a winning season this year?   For many of you (including myself)  this year is crucial.  It's Bielema's last year to prove he can put together a winning team at Arkansas,  probably not in Jeff Long's mind,  but in the minds of many fans.

However, I was listening to Sports Talk yesterday (I believe)  and someone on the show stated that he believed Bielema would resign if he didn't have a winning season this year. I was curious everyone else's opinion on this.  Is Bielema the kind of coach that would step down if he couldn't do the job - or would he just keep grinding out bad to mediocre seasons?
I knew you had serious issues when I saw your negative post on CBB twitter message about the passing of Pat Gazzola. You've got bigger problems than this OP.
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rljjr

WHY are there so many "get rid of the coach" agendas? The program is finally stable. Now it's time to win. I'd be willing to give him a mandatory 3 more seasons after this one. We are going to start seeing coaches at other programs getting tossed or leaving. It's time to stay the course and parlay that insecurity in other programs into wins.

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Quote from: Inhogswetrust on August 11, 2017, 01:39:38 pm
I think you should step down as a mediocre fan for starting a topic like this right before the season starts....................

Check out dude's topics that he's previously started. Some real winners in there.

Hawgphat

Quote from: hawgwash on August 11, 2017, 11:49:09 am
Gotta love a comment disguised as a question.

When a head coaches' continued employment at his current job is called into question on a rather wide scale, there's bound to be SOME consideration given to such a growing mass of voices asking that question.  In the final analysis, Razorback fans aren't holding the hammer as the deciding factor to this growing question; - - JL and the big dog honchos are. - - - But the mega-dollar payouts by Hogs fans cannot be discounted and sneezed at.  If a very large faction of fans should become vocally disenchanted with the direction of the program, - and if they should choose to express their displeasure with their pocketbooks - - I would tend to think that SOME accommodation would necessarily HAVE to eventually be made to placate those who constitute the life-blood of the program. Rising discontent cannot be ignored or dismissed indefinitely.

That's just one man's opinion.

Michael_E_Davis

Quote from: gchamblee on August 11, 2017, 12:24:30 pm
Everyone did bother to read that trash in the op, and everyone is responding accordingly. We know you have wet dreams about coach being fired, but can you please stop sharing them with us?

What are you talking about? I support Bielema.  I have from the beginning.  This is just a suggestion;   try knowing what you are talking about before posting.
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Michael_E_Davis

Quote from: Next1_04 on August 11, 2017, 01:03:15 pm
Talking about our coach stepping down right before kickoff. Brilliant.

It was sports talk radio that was talking about it.  I was just relaying what they were talking about to get opinions on what they were saying. I don't know how many times I am going to have to say this.  People seem to have reading problems around here.
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gchamblee

Quote from: Michael_E_Davis on August 11, 2017, 01:59:04 pm
What are you talking about? I support Bielema.  I have from the beginning.  This is just a suggestion;   try knowing what you are talking about before posting.

Trust me, I knew exactly what I was talking about.

Michael_E_Davis

Quote from: gchamblee on August 11, 2017, 02:03:09 pm
Trust me, I knew exactly what I was talking about.

You have absolutely 'zero'  clue what you are talking about. 
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Inhogswetrust

Quote from: Hawgphat on August 11, 2017, 01:56:46 pm
When a head coaches' continued employment at his current job is called into question on a rather wide scale, there's bound to be SOME consideration given to such a growing mass of voices asking that question.  In the final analysis, Razorback fans aren't holding the hammer as the deciding factor to this growing question; - - JL and the big dog honchos are. - - - But the mega-dollar payouts by Hogs fans cannot be discounted and sneezed at.  If a very large faction of fans should become vocally disenchanted with the direction of the program, - and if they should choose to express their displeasure with their pocketbooks - - I would tend to think that SOME accommodation would necessarily HAVE to eventually be made to placate those who constitute the life-blood of the program. Rising discontent cannot be ignored or dismissed indefinitely.

That's just one man's opinion.

You make some good points. However there is no big rising discontent now since the season hasn't even started. There are only a minority that don't like CBB and never will. Thus the media picks up on that and/or simply looks at the record without taking all the variables into effect.
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870hogfan

Pretty sad our some of our fans want him to fail...

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Quote from: Pig in the Pokey on August 11, 2017, 01:22:54 pm
sounds like you are the one who has already surrendered the season, bruh.

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Quote from: sowmonella on August 11, 2017, 01:40:37 pm
I knew you had serious issues when I saw your negative post on CBB twitter message about the passing of Pat Gazzola. You've got bigger problems than this OP.
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Quote from: Michael_E_Davis on August 11, 2017, 11:09:10 am
If he is unable to produce a winning season this year?   For many of you (including myself)  this year is crucial.  It's Bielema's last year to prove he can put together a winning team at Arkansas,  probably not in Jeff Long's mind,  but in the minds of many fans.

However, I was listening to Sports Talk yesterday (I believe)  and someone on the show stated that he believed Bielema would resign if he didn't have a winning season this year. I was curious everyone else's opinion on this.  Is Bielema the kind of coach that would step down if he couldn't do the job - or would he just keep grinding out bad to mediocre seasons?

I, too am curious: Have you gotten your school supplies for the new year yet?



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