NCAA Levels Lack of Institutional Control Charge on Miami

[NaturalStateReb]

Despite the recent upheaval at NCAA headquarters, it looks like the Miami case is moving ahead:

http://m.espn.go.com/wireless/story?storyId=8964435&wjb

Looks like Frank Haith is going to escape with his hide mostly intact.

[younghog]

Much better link here:

http://espn.go.com/college-sports/story/_/id/8964435/ncaa-accuses-miami-lack-institutional-control-notice-allegations

GO HOGS

[NaturalStateReb]

Agreed--that 4 point font is pretty hard to take.

[Hornkiller]

Here you go in a nutt shell

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/vault/cover/featured/9487/index.htm

This has got to hurt a program looking for cover from another conference. If you're the Big XII do you take a team facing bowl probabtion and being banned from television?

[dynastyhog]

You made a great choice Alex Collins.

[younghog]

Agreed--that 4 point font is pretty hard to take.

YEAH.. its the MOBILE version..

interesting read btw

[younghog]

You made a great choice Alex Collins.

NO DOUBT

[booogaga]

Does anyone have a guess what what possible sanctions they receive? I would love to see the U go down in flames.

[Hoggish1]

Does anyone have a guess what what possible sanctions they receive? I would love to see the U go down in flames.

Me too, but how do you penalize a program that is irrelevant in their own back yard.  They are lucky to get 21K at their games, now. 

They can go lower but they are just about at the bottom now.

[cmpledger]

Kind of pathetic people want to see a school "go down in flames." Do people really want to see the world burn that bad?

[dynastyhog]

Kind of pathetic people want to see a school "go down in flames." Do people really want to see the world burn that bad?

I don't want to see a school go down for hundred dollar hand shakes but the U is as crooked as they come, and has been for decades.  Let em' burn!

[Pigsknuckles]

I posted these in General Sports yesterday. Seems it's become a bit more relevant now that a ruling has been made. NCAA isn't without sin in this investigation.

http://collegefootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/02/18/miami-calls-for-no-additional-punitive-measures-from-ncaa/related/

http://collegefootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/02/18/ncaa-finds-missteps-insufficient-oversight-from-enforcement-staff/

[oldfart]

i recall a time in the mid 60s when i was in grad school in gainesville that the miami program was so dismal that the university itself was considering closing down the program...

[dynastyhog]

Probably putting the cart before the horse here but if/when they get a smack down and let the current kids transfer w/o penalty, can our program benefit with the Florida connections we're gaining? 

[Bkhardicars]

I think dynasty hog is on to something.I bet we won't benefit from any transfers, but with the pipe line we laid there this year this misfortune for the U can do nothing but help us in the next couple of years.just getting 3-5 four star guys a year from there would be huge.don't think that's too much of a reach considering how well we did in such a short time this year.

[booogaga]

Kind of pathetic people want to see a school "go down in flames." Do people really want to see the world burn that bad?

Find it what you will. I don't give a flying crap stick what your opinion is of me. lol

BURN MIAMI BURN!

[oldfart]

miami has been a rogue program for decades

[scruf]

Kind of pathetic people want to see a school "go down in flames." Do people really want to see the world burn that bad?

There's nothing pathetic about holding an institution accountable for its actions but there's everything pathetic about letting these kind of actions go unchecked.

[songofthesword]

considering we have randy shannon plus 2 of BB's best players at Wisconsin were transfers i'd bet we would get a couple.

[bennyl08]

Miami definitely needs some punishment but death penalty should not be on the table. NCAA is looking to make an example of a school that won't cost them money. Miami has been irrelevant for a while now but still has the recognizable name. Problem is, they tried too hard and messed up the investigation themselves.

This is the first time I have ever thought this, but at this rate, I could see the NCAA not existing, or at least be no longer recognizable, in 15-20 years.

[Michael D Huff AIA]

There's nothing pathetic about holding an institution accountable for its actions but there's everything pathetic about letting these kind of actions go unchecked.

This has been my frustration with the NCAA for years.  If the NCAA does not enforce its own rules, then it's just a name only. 

And yes, if a program does not have "institutional control" and is dirty, they must "burn".  If the NCAA is serious about enforcement, then they need to go after the "money dirty" programs with the same ferocity that they went after Penn State with.  PSU got the sledgehammer for running a different kind of dirty program.  What does Miami deserve for being "money dirty" for 20 years?  The "death penalty" will never be used again, but if they did blow the dust off that thing and use it again, I think that might get the member school's attention.  (However, the NCAA needs to clean itself up before they can do this.  Another post for another time.)

[OldCoot]

This was more scathing of NCAA President Mark Emmert than anyone.  And they are record as saying his butt needs to be fired and now.

[rocknrollcoastie]

This is the first time I have ever thought this, but at this rate, I could see the NCAA not existing, or at least be no longer recognizable, in 15-20 years.

With this thing at Miami and what's going on between them, Penn St. and Pennsylvania I don't see it even being around that long maybe 5-7 years NCAA will be R.I.P.

[Inhogswetrust]

Kind of pathetic people want to see a school "go down in flames." Do people really want to see the world burn that bad?

I guess you've never heard the term "figure of speech". He doesn't want them to LITERALLY burn. Just receive severe punishment for their crimes if guilty. It's obvious that he doesn't like Miami. Few people outside of Coral Gables does! Relax man it's sports, not life and death.

[mhuff]

This has been my frustration with the NCAA for years.  If the NCAA does not enforce its own rules, then it's just a name only. 

And yes, if a program does not have "institutional control" and is dirty, they must "burn".  If the NCAA is serious about enforcement, then they need to go after the "money dirty" programs with the same ferocity that they went after Penn State with.  PSU got the sledgehammer for running a different kind of dirty program.  What does Miami deserve for being "money dirty" for 20 years?  The "death penalty" will never be used again, but if they did blow the dust off that thing and use it again, I think that might get the member school's attention.  (However, the NCAA needs to clean itself up before they can do this.  Another post for another time.)

It would not hurt my feelings to see the superconferences completed and the NCAA discarded for an organization that would hand out true punishments. As it is now no one wants to do anything substantial to the cash cows. Therefore, they continue to cheat and laugh about it........... A punisnment to be a punishment has to be a punishment. Kick them out of the conference or do something to affect their pocketbooks. Oh, also make it mandatory that their coaches have to be fired. Make it three strikes and you're out ,and the former coaches can spend the weekends making book or something appropriate to their character.

[MC_Hog]

It only took the NCAA 40 years to find Miami has lack of institutional control. Everyone else has know this since the 70's.