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From 100 to 1, counting down the worst to best SEC head football coaching tenures during the Arkansas era of the SEC:

Mike Price

Mike Price's Washington State team had whoopped Oklahoma in the Rose Bowl 34-14 and he was hired to succeed Dennis Franchione at Bama. Franchione was reportedly offered $15 million for 10 years but left Bama for A&M to replace RC Slocum. Franchione was 10-6 in SEC games.

In Pensacola, Price wound up with private dancer Destiny Stahl and never coached a game at Bama.

"Mike Price went into hard-boozing, hard-partying Tuscaloosa after more than a decade in rural, brew-sipping Pullman and made the mistake of believing he was invited to the party as a participant rather than a myopic chaperone.

"His first mistake was to try to make football practice fun and to publicly flaunt that fact in a place where having fun at that level of college football is heresy.

"His second mistake was to get drunk and make a fool of himself before earning his stripes."

"It's bad, especially because he's married," said daughter Brooke. "Come on, use some common sense!" She's 11.

The Miami Dolphins QB coach was hired in May 2003 and at the time was the second youngest coach in D1. After a rough start, Mike Shula led Bama to a Cotton Bowl victory over TTech 13-10...
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Bill Curry

"Don't leave Bama for Kentucky."

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Some of their thoughts on Life I wish you could understand at this tender age:

• When you are in your 70s, it will not be the wins and losses that matter — it will be your family, your friends, and players, who are living happy, productive lives. Hearing from them will make all the difference.
• For people who do harm to you, forgive them, all of them.
• Remember that humility and integrity are the hallmarks of a true leader.
• Talk's cheap. Leaders act.
• When you have an impulse to hurt someone, by word or deed, step back, think ... then don't do it.
• Be a man of courage — when you see evil, confront it, take a stand — if you know who you are, you will know what to do.
• Love God with all your heart, and your neighbor as yourself.
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Bill Curry

Jerry Claiborne had a harrowing plane ride while recruiting and resigned from coaching after the 1989 season and a 6-5 mark.

Bill Curry left Bama (10-2, 6-1, Sugar Bowl) to become Kentucky's coach and was there from 1990 to 1996. 1993 was his most accomplished team going 6-6 and losing the Peach Bowl on a late fumble by a linebacker after an interception. His 1994 team, 1-10, is still the worst in modern football history.

In 1996, Curry put true freshman Tim Couch in his first starting role running the option against Spurrier's Florida team. Curry was asked to step down after the 1996 season and Elbert Couch's promise to pursue a transfer.  He was succeeded by Hal Mumme.

Curry's SEC record was 14-40 in seven seasons. His teams were 12-12 in non-conference games.

After some TV analyst work, Curry coached Georgia State. His last team, the 2012 team, went 1-10.
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John Smith

After Bobby Petrino was let go, Smith was signed to a 10-month contract as head coach for the Arkansas 2012 season. FWIWW, the Hogs were ranked #10 in both major preseason polls and had Tyler Wilson return as QB. While Smith was getting his piss hot, he was also dealing with the fall out an East Jefferson County real estate investment. He filed for Chapter 7 in September and had some portion of his Arkansas salary placed in a retirement account sheltered from the court. The debts were later discharged via a court order to repay $265,000 in cash and $400,000 in real estate.

Arkansas went 4-12, 2-6 with conference wins over Auburn and Kentucky in the seasons after which Gene Chizik and Joker Phillips were fired.  Arkansas lost to UL-Monroe and Rutgers in the non-conference schedule and took drubbings from Bama, A&M, and State.

Smith, of course, was replaced by Bret Bielema who was coming off his third consecutive Rose Bowl bid for Wisconsin.

Smith had brought his OC Bobby Petrino with him from Utah State to Louisville for the 1998 season. After a 7-6 season in 2002, Smith left to coach Michigan State figuratively during half time of the Cards' bowl game. Bobby Petrino left the OC job at Auburn to lead Louisville to a series of historic beatdowns of in-state rival Kentucky and a New Year's Day bowl following the 2006 campaign.

Smith was 12-20 in B1G play and he was replaced by Mark Dantonio. After some time off, Bobby Petrino brought him back as Special Teams Coordinator for the Razorbacks in 2009.  Smith had left FCS Weber State in spring camp to replace Petrino in April 2012.

Smith coached Ft. Lewis to a losing record in the Rocky Mountain Conference before choosing to return to the Bluegrass State and coach HBCU Kentucky State for the 2016 season.
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Robbie Caldwell

Robbie Caldwell, Vandy's offensive line coach, claimed he was lining the practice field when he was informed of a meeting naming him head coach. He killed at SEC Media Days and the interim tag was removed from his title. With a 28-14 over Houston Nutt's Ole Miss Rebels in Oxford, Caldwell became Vandy's first coach to win his road debut since 1975. Vandy went 1-7 in the SEC and Caldwell announced his resignation just before Vandy's last game against Wake Forest. This touched off a three-week coaching search ending with James Franklin.

Caldwell is currently the offensive line coach for Clemson.
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Mike Shula

Miami Dolphins QB coach was hired in May 2003 and at the time was the second youngest coach in D1. After a rough start, Mike Shula led Bama to a Cotton Bowl victory over TTech 13-10 following the '05 season. He received a 6-year, $1.8 million per year extension.  After a 2006 OT loss to Arkansas in Fayetteville, things fell apart. One week after losing to Auburn, Moore paid Shula $4 million to leave.

Shula was 13-19 in SEC play. Due to victories vacated in a text book case, Shula's official SEC record is 5-19.

DC Joe Kines served as interim HC and coached Bama in the Independence Bowl.

Mike Shula replaced Mike Price who appeared earlier on this page. The Crimson Tide job was his only one in college football coaching for the long-time NFL assistant. He is currently the offensive coordinator for the Panthers.
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Woody Widenhofer

Coach Dowhower went 1-15 in SEC games in his two seasons at Vandy when he was replaced by his DC.

Woody Widenhofer had been the head coach at Missouri in the 80's. He was DC at Vandy when he was promoted to replace Dowhower. His 1997 team led the SEC in total defense but went 0-8 in conference games. In his five seasons at Vandy, Woody's teams had an SEC record of 4-36. In 2010, Widenhofer was working at a highway toll booth in the Florida panhandle.

Bobby Johnson had been the head coach at Furman for eight seasons when he took the Vandy job to begin the 2002 season.
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Rod Dowhower

Gerry Dinardo's SEC record was 9-22 at Vandy and he was hired by LSU.

Rod Dowhower had been a head coach at Stanford in '79 and for the Indianapolis Colts. He had been idle for one season after serving as an NFL assistant for seven seasons when he took the Vandy job starting with the 1995 season. Dowhower was 1-15 in SEC games in his two seasons at Vandy.

Dowhower was replaced by Woody Widenhofer who later was working at a highway toll booth in the Florida panhandle north of Sandestin.  He was an NFL assistant for five seasons after Vandy.



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"Come Play for the Joker"

Rich Brooks led UK to a school record four consecutive bowl games. He resigned after the 2009 season to turn the program over to his long time coach-in-waiting, Joker Phillips. Brooks' seven season SEC record was 16-39. He could not get a win over Florida nor Tennessee. The Tennessee and Florida streaks were the longest futility streaks in the NCAA for one team against another stretching into the 80's.

Joker Phillips was UK's recruiting coordinator who set up their '06 and '07 teams. After Phillips became the coach-in-waiting, UK's recruiting appeared to begin to suffer.

Joker Phillips became the first black head football coach at UK. Phillips' first team extended UK's bowl streak in 2010 but lost in the BBVA Compass Bowl. His 2011 team lost to UofL with good friend and Batesville native Charlie Strong at the helm. It was UK's first loss to UofL since Petrino left. UK won their last game over Tennessee  breaking the 26-year futility streak by using WR Matt Burke in his first ever UK duty at QB.

His SEC record in two seasons is 4-12. Joker Phillips was fired ten games into the 2012 season after a 1-9 start.  Kentucky ended 0-8 in the SEC.  Joker's SEC record at UK as head coach was 4-20. 

Immediately after the 2012 season, Joker Phillips became WR coach and recruiting coordinator for another former coach-in-waiting, and one who could no longer wait, Will Muschamp. He sent the infamous "Come Play WR for Joker" messages to recruits.



In 2014 Phillips committed what the NCAA later ruled was a Level II violation that "was not inadvertent and provided more than a minimal recruiting advantage." Joker resigned in June 2014. NCAA did not penalize Florida, nor will they.

After a stint with the Browns, Joker Phillips is current a QA assistant for Urban Meyer at Ohio State.

Joker Phillips was state championship ATH in southern Kentucky who played WR at UK on a 9-3 team that finished 19 in the final AP poll.  He was a grad assistant promoted to WR coach for Bill Curry's run at UK. After later replaced Urban Meyer as WR coach at Notre Dame and was WR coach at South Carolina for Lou Holtz when he returned to UK as Recruiting Coordinator and WR coach in 2003.

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Sly Croom

Jackie Sherrill's last two teams had gone 1-15 in the SEC when he was let go.

Sylvester Croom became the first black head football coach in the SEC and took over State for the 2004 season. Croom had been a long-time NFL RB coach before coaching the Linebackers at Bama from the mid-70s to the mid-80s.

After going 4-20 in SEC play his first three seasons, Croom's team went 8-4 in 2007 including an Egg Bowl win. His team earned a Liberty Bowl bid which led to a 10-3 win over UCF. Croom received some Coach of the Year recognitions including SEC Coach of the Year. After finishing 4-8 in 2008 including a 45-0 Egg Bowl loss to Nutt, Croom resigned.

Croom's overall SEC record at State was 10-30.

Dan Mullen was the OC for Florida and in process of a second National Champsionship when hired by State to be head coach.

Sylvester Croom had been a long-time NFL position coach including a 3-year stint as the running backs coach for the Packers, when he was hired by State.  Croom returned to the NFL after he was let go and is currently the running backs coach for the Titans.

A former Jacobs Blocking Trophy winner for Bama, Croom was a Bama assistant for 10 years after a one year stint playing in the NFL in 1975.
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Mark Stoops

The youngest brother of the Stoops family was brought in by UK in 2013 to rebuild after the Joker Phillips era. He had been the Defensive Coordinator and D-Backs coach at Florida State.  Stoops and Vince Marrow established a recruiting pipeline into Ohio as well as some connection to the Tallahassee area.

After a drubbing by Florida in Kentucky's conference opener and the program's 30th consecutive loss to the Gators, Stoops is now 4-21 in SEC games. This came off a come from behind loss in the season opener to Southern Miss.  UK had led 35-10 before losing 44-35.  USM's OC Shannon Dawson, who was fired by UK and had been bitter, saw his offense roll up 554 yards in Commonwealth Stadium.
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Ed Orgeron, Jr.

After going 3-5 in the SEC in '04, AD Boone gave David Cutcliffe an ultimatum to choose assistant coaches to let go. He refused and was fired after a career 25-23 SEC record including the Eli Manning era.

Ed Orgeron was '04 National Recruiter of the Year as Asst. Head Coach at USC. Orgeron proved to be a successful recruiter at Ole Miss but could not translate the USC system into on-the-field success. After three seasons and a 3-21 SEC record, Orgeron was let go.

After a season as the Saint's DL coach, Coach "O" allied with Lane Kiffin, first at Tennesse and later at USC. As USC interim coach in 2013, the Orgeron-led USC team went 6-1 in the Pac 12. He is currently the Defensive Line Coach at LSU.
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Mike DuBose

Mike DuBose had an SEC record of 16-16 for Bama including being named the '99 SEC Coach of the Year.  After coaching the DL for Tampa Bay in the late-80s, DuBose was Stallings' DL coach for his seven seasons at Bama.  DuBose was previously DL coach for Ray Perkins.

In the spring prior to his best season, DuBose was accused of having an affair with Deborah Gibson and later settled out of court for over a quarter-of-a-million dollars. DuBose was able to stay on despite Gibson having worked in the Athletic Administration.

In 2000, Bama had a poor season despite being ranked third in the preseason. They lost  non-conference games to Southern Miss. 21-0 and to UCF at home. Bama received NCAA sanctions from DuBose's time as head coach.

For 2001, Mal Moore hired Dennis Franchione over Frank Beamer, Butch Davis, and Tommy Bowden.

DuBose is currently the LB coach at Opp High School.  If you are heading toward Sandestin, do not drive near the speed limit in "The City of OPPortunity".
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Curley Hallman

A former A&M DB and assistant to Bear Bryant, Danny Ford, and Jackie Sherrill, Curley Hallman coached Southern Miss. to road wins over Bama, Auburn, and Florida State.  LSU hired Hallman to replace Mike Archer following the 1990 season. Hallman had the lowest winning percentage in LSU history. His record in SEC games over four seasons was 10-21 (7-17 during the Arkansas era).

LSU hired Gerry DiNardo from Vandy to replace Hallman.

Between years off, Hallman was a DB coach at Bama and later State.  His last known football coacing job was at Muscle Shoals High ending in 2007.
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Ray Goff

Ray Goff was a 33-year-old running backs coach when he was chosen to replace the Vince Dooley at Georgia starting with the 1989 season.  In seven seasons, Goff had only one team win as many as five SEC games. The 1992 team was 6-2, finished in the top ten, and played in the Citrus Bowl. Ray Goff was 24-28-1 in SEC games.

Jim Donnan had led Marshall to five consecutive 11-plus win seasons when he was tapped to replace Goff.
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Included in the 24 SEC head coaching changes since Saban arrived at Alabama in 2007 were 7 coaches who won either a national or SEC title.
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Brad Scott

Brad Scott was the OC for Bobby Bowden when he took over the SC job at 39 beginning with the 1994 season and replacing Sparky Woods. SC was 4-4 in the SEC in '96 but lost their last ten games in 1998 finishing 1-10. Brad Scott was 12-27-1 in SEC games at SC. He was replaced by Lou Holtz.

Scott was an assistant at Clemson from '99 to '11 (mentioned in Blind Side: Evolution of a Game).  His son Jeff is Clemson's Co-OC and Recruiting Coordinator.
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Sparky Woods

Sparky Woods had been 25-9-1 in Southern Conference games coaching App State when he took the head coaching job for then independent South Carolina beginning with the 1989 season. Woods coached five seasons in Columbia and was 5-11 in South Carolina's first two SEC seasons when he was replaced by Brad Scott.

He was an assistant for Sherrill and Shula in the SEC before taking over at VMI.
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Lane Monte Kiffin

Lane Kiffin was fired four games into the 2008 season by Al Davis and the Raiders. Vol AD Mike Hamilton hired Kiffin to replace Phil Fulmer and Lane brought Monte Kiffin and Ed Orgeron as top assistants.

Kiffin attempted to bring USC tradition to Knoxville while intentionally pushing Volunteer tradition into the background. He also publicly took on Urban Meyer and constantly put Mike Slive on edge. In an early season Florida game, Kiffin played a deliberate style that allowed Tennessee to cover the spread and claim a morale victory [phrase intentionally chosen as the words "moral" and "victory" together in this context would be an oxymoron].

Kiffin left for USC after posting an SEC conference record of 4-4. Students set small fires near the athletic administration building, burning mattresses and Kiffin paraphernalia.

Despite rumors ranging from Jon Gruden to Texas coach-in-waiting Will Muschamp, the Vols hired the son of former UGa coach Vince Dooley.

Kiffin was 17-12 in Pac 10/12 games before being let go midseason after two conference losses in 2013.  He became the OC and QB coach at Bama.  Apart from an occasional public ass chewing for failing to cover, Kiffin is considered a hot prospect for another head coaching opportunity.
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Gerry DiNardo

In '91, Gerry DiNardo had inherited a Vandy program with back-to-back 1-10 records and took them to an average of 5-6 over the next four seasons (though no bowl game). He was 9-22 in the SEC at Vandy.

LSU had had six consecutive losing seasons when they hired DiNardo as coach from Vandy.

After leading LSU to two Independence and one Peach Bowl bid in his first three seasons, Dinardo's program began to decline. After an 0-7 SEC start, Mark Emmert fired Dinardo. Interim Hal Hunter was coach when LSU defeated  Arkansas 35-10 to end LSU's decade of the 90s.

DiNardo's SEC record was 18-20-1.

After a brief run in Mr. McMahon's XFL, DiNardo coached the Indiana Hoosiers ('02-'04) to a 3-21 Big Ten record and was fired, ending his coaching career.

Gerry DiNardo had been a teammate of "Rudy" at Notre Dame. He had been Bill McCartney's OC at Colorado when he was hired to be head coach at Vandy.
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Ron Zook

Ron Zook was a DB at Miami (O.), "The Cradle of Coaches". Zook became an assistant for Spurrier in '91 leaving Ohio State and Zook replaced him as Head Coach beginning with the '02 season. Zook's hiring generated a lot of energy among the fan base, not all positive, with banners flown over the stadium and "Fire Ron Zook" websites. Three five-loss seasons ended Zook's career at UF.

Zook did not win a home game over a ranked foe and was criticized for puckering up at home. He coached consecutive road wins over LSU, Arkansas, and UGa in '03.

Ron Zook's SEC record was 16-8.  He went 6-2 in his first two SEC seasons but 2-3 in non-SEC games.

Batesville-native Charlie Strong coached Florida's Peach Bowl loss after Zook's last season.

Florida hired Utah head coach Urban Meyer who complimented Zook on the players he had left behind.

Ron Zook was DC for the Saints when he was hired at Florida. He coached at Illinois from '05 to '11 making the Rose Bowl in '07.  His B1G record was 18-38.  He is currently the Special Teams coach for the Green Bay Packers
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Guy Morriss

Guy Morriss, UK's Offensive Line Coach and Associate Head Coach was named interim coach for the 2001 season (2-9) replacing Hal Mumme and head coach for 2002 (7-5, ineligible for post season due to sanctions from the Claude Bassett incident). Morriss was doused with Gatorade in a premature player celebration before Nick Saban's LSU team completed a 75-yard TD pass on the last play for a win. Morriss left UK for Baylor. His SEC record was 4-12.

Guy Morriss was a Pro Bowl NFL center and got into coaching after a 13-year pro career.  After six seasons as an NFL O-Line coach and other assignments, Morriss was O-Line coach for Miss. State in '96 before joining Hal Mumme's squad at UK.  After leaving UK, Morriss was 7-33 in Big 12 games at Baylor before being let go following the '07 season.  After a 9-18 record in Lone Star conference play at Texas A&M-Commerce, Morriss began coaching in the high school ranks.

Guy Morriss is currently the offensive line coach at Lexington Christian Academy.
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https://twitter.com/Michael_Carvell/status/788188121359843328

"I will say," Boone said, "that I believe that the time Ed was here at Ole Miss was a real good time for him. Unfortunately, he had to have some experience being a head coach and that comes from doing it. He just didn't fit at that time for us."

Boone hasn't spoken to Orgeron since he fired him in November of 2007...
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Bill Oliver

Terry Bowden was replaced mid-season in '98 by DC Bill Oliver. Auburn finished 6th in the SEC-W with Oliver finishing 0-3 in the SEC. He retired from football coaching when he did not get the Auburn job for the '99 season.

The former Bama DB was a DB coach in the '60's and '70's.  He was head coach for four seasons at UT-Chattanooga from '80 to '83. He was DC at Bama and then Auburn when he replaced Bowden as interim in '98 at age 58. It was thought that Oliver was Bama's unnamed "coach-in-waiting" to eventually replace Gene Stallings. Sanctions and the firing of then AD Hootie Ingram kept that from happening.
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Quote"There are ways that you can leave and there are ways that you shouldn't leave," former A&M player and Alabama coach Gene Stallings said last week. "In my opinion, he left in a way he should not have left Alabama. I was very disappointed in Franchione."

Given the current state of affairs at Alabama, a dynasty in living color, it's ludicrous to think a coach would abandon the Crimson Tide to seek another opportunity in college football. It's one of the best jobs out there when factoring in the salary, the resources devoted to the program and the prestige. But 14 years ago, Alabama didn't have the luster it does now. It was sullied — rocked by instability, saddled with an NCAA-enforced probation and confronted with an uncertain future.

As former Crimson Tide quarterback Tyler Watts said, it was "pretty rough."

"Not a lot of direction. Not a lot of leadership from our standpoint. It was a tough time."

Franchione's exit only exacerbated the misery, which was ironic because at one point he was viewed as the savior.

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In November 2000, Franchione arrived at Alabama aiming to resurrect the Deep South's biggest football power. He was a Kansas native who had most recently made something out of downtrodden TCU — a perennial loser which struggled to regain its footing after the Southwest Conference folded.

The job he had accepted at Alabama would be even harder than what he faced in Fort Worth because the stakes were that much greater. The Tide finished 3-8 the year before, which led to the ouster of Mike DuBose. Adding to the challenge Franchione inherited was the specter of an NCAA probe. One month after Franchione landed in Tuscaloosa, news surfaced that a Tide booster had given a high school coach $200,000 to steer recruit Albert Means to Alabama. Faced with a difficult situation that he had no part in creating, Franchione forged ahead and tried to make the best of the hand he was dealt.

"I know he was very committed to the University of Alabama," said Melvin Smith, who coached the Tide's safeties in 2002. "He always worked hard. He put a lot into the job he was doing. He knew how to do the job. He knew how to build programs."

In his first season, Franchione began to negotiate a turnaround for Alabama. The Tide went 7-5 and there was promise of better things to come. Then the NCAA levied its penalties in February 2002, smacking Alabama with a five-year probation and significant scholarship reductions that had the potential to be crippling. Thomas Yeager, then the chairman of the infractions committee, said it could have been even worse and the death penalty was considered.

When the punishment was handed down, Franchione vowed to restore the Crimson Tide, saying that he and his staff were determined to return Alabama to glory. That year, the Tide went 10-3 — beating Nick Saban's LSU squad 31-0 and drubbing Tennessee by 20 points. Banned from participating in a bowl, Alabama played its last game in Hawaii, won and finished ranked No. 11 in the Associated Press poll.

Five days later, Franchione was gone, jetting off to Aggieland to replace R.C. Slocum before saying goodbye to his players.

"I just think that was a mistake," Stallings said, the disgust evident in his voice.

The national media agreed.

Franchione was roasted. He was called a hypocrite for abandoning his commitment to the Tide after imploring his players to "hold the rope" ...
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QuoteTen years ago, it was built around a prolific passing attack. At Springdale High School in 2005, quarterback Mitch Mustain threw for 3,817 yards (an Arkansas Class 5A record) with 47 touchdowns and six interceptions. He was named the Gatorade, USA Today and Parade Magazine National Player of the Year.

Two years later, Malzahn landed at Tulsa as offensive coordinator, and his offense led the nation in total yards. His quarterback that year, Paul Smith, threw for more than 5,000 yards with 47 touchdowns and 19 interceptions.

Now? Auburn still runs the hurry-up, no-huddle offense that Malzahn has been using since his high school days. It's still run out of the spread with plenty of misdirection. But contrary to popular belief, the focal point is no longer through the air. It's on the ground, running the football.

In his four seasons at Auburn, including this one, Malzahn's offense has finished among the top five in rushing.

Former SEC coach Houston Nutt, who hired Malzahn while he was at Arkansas in 2006, believes that season in Fayetteville might have been a precursor.

"I think what he really learned from our deal is that I know throwing for thousands of yards is good and you do want balance, but the championship teams are going to run the ball and be able to stop the run," Nutt said. "If you can do that the majority of the time, you've got the recipe for winning, and I'm talking about winning a championship."

Arkansas coach Bret Bielema knows a thing or two about running the football...
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BYU just tried to fake a punt 4th & 19 in its own end zone. I can't even digest what I'm seeing anymore. I'm in shock


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Hal Mumme thought it was a great call.
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 Michael Bonnette ‏@LSUBonnette Oct 22

With win tonite, Ed Orgeron becomes 1st coach in @LSUfootball modern day school history to win 1st 3 games he coached by double-digits. #LSU
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Fun fact: The last time neither Mark Richt nor Steve Spurrier coached in the UGA-Florida game: UGA 17, Florida 10 on Nov. 11, 1989
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QuoteIt was White Out Night at Beaver Stadium, and the Nittany Lions broke out with their first signature win under Franklin. Penn State rallied from 14 points down in the fourth quarter to send No. 2 Ohio State packing, 24-21, setting off one of those wild scenes we've become accustomed to in college football.

For Franklin, the last 2½ years probably seemed more like dog years, as he weathered massive scholarship reductions and back-to-back 7-6 seasons in his first two with the Nittany Lions.

His eyes were still moist 20 minutes after the game, as he soaked it all in.

"I don't even know that you can explain it, everything this program has been through the last five years," Franklin told ESPN.com. "No one understands what we're still going through. Nobody understands, so to see us all come together as a family and as a community, we don't do that by ourselves. It took all 107,000 fans in there going crazy."
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https://twitter.com/KyleTucker_AJC/status/791040181415673856

QuoteFor years now, whenever his name popped up in a high-profile coaching search, Dan Mullen has told us how much his wife loves Starkville and how happy he is at Mississippi State. Here's hoping he meant it, because the escape hatch has closed.

Starting with Miami in 2010 – and again last season – Mullen has reportedly been a candidate for a slew of brand-name programs: Penn State in 2011, Michigan and Florida in 2014, Virginia Tech and Georgia in 2015. It's unclear whether he is a terrible interview or incredibly loyal, but for whatever reason, Mullen stuck with the Bulldogs.

And now he's ... stuck with the Bulldogs. Assuming they don't (foolishly) fire him.

"A lot of times I'll look and say, 'Really, is that a better job?' " Mullen told Seth Davis of Sports Illustrated in 2014, when asked about vacancies in Gainesville and Ann Arbor. "I know in the perception, a lot of people say there's no doubt that's a better job. But in reality, I don't know if that's always the case."

Today, Michigan is ranked No. 2 in the country and 14th-ranked Florida leads the truly terrible SEC East. Mullen's Mississippi State team, meanwhile, is off to a 2-5 start for the first time since the swan song of his predecessor, Sylvester Croom, in 2008.

"My wife told me just the other night: We're No. 1 in the country, everybody wants this job," Mullen said in that interview with Davis two years ago. "This is the ultimate destination job."

He said that with a straight face back then. To be fair, it was an easier sell in 2014, when Mullen had miraculously beaten three consecutive top-10 teams and gotten the Bulldogs to the top of the polls for the first time in school history – and stayed there for five weeks on the way to an Orange Bowl invitation.

But it wasn't true then (and it surely isn't now) that Mississippi State is a destination job, much less the destination job.

Sure, since Mullen arrived, he's gotten a new $25 million football complex and $75 million stadium renovation and a $4.3 million annual salary, all things that make it a significantly better job than when he was hired. But consider: That 2014 season, the program's best in 15 years, still concluded with four losses.

The Bulldogs still didn't play for an SEC title that year, finishing second in the unforgiving West, and haven't finished higher than fourth in the division in any of Mullen's other six seasons. They're last this year, 1-3 in league play, and it isn't likely getting any better.

They've already lost at home to South Alabama, struggled to beat Massachusetts, gotten blasted by Auburn and lost to Kentucky for the first time in eight tries under Mullen. Now, after Samford this weekend, here comes Texas A&M, Alabama, Arkansas and Ole Miss to finish the season. Gulp.
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USA Today finally updated its figures for total pay for all the coaches in the FBS in 2016

Only Ten SEC coaches are among the top-25 highest paid in our nation

You get what you pay for: All SEC West coaches are in the top 17


QuoteSaban will make $6,939,395 in salary this season, making him the second-highest paid coach in the country behind Michigan's Jim Harbaugh ($9,004,000), and [Les Miles is still getting paid.]

2. Nick Saban, Alabama – $6,939,395

7. Kevin Sumlin, Texas A&M – $5,000,000

8. Gus Malzahn, Auburn – $4,729,500

9. Hugh Freeze, Ole Miss – $4,703,500

13. Les Miles*, LSU – $4,385,567

15. Jim McElwain, Florida – $4,268,325

16. Dan Mullen, Mississippi State – $4,200,000

17. Bret Bielema, Arkansas – $4,145,000

18. Butch Jones, Tennessee – $4,110,000

23. Kirby Smart, Georgia – $3,753,600

26. Mark Stoops, Kentucky – $3,513,600

36. Will Muschamp, South Carolina – $3,002,500

44. Derek Mason, Vanderbilt – $2,556,877

47. Barry Odom, Missouri – $2,350,000
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How's it going for the former '90s era SEC defensive players?

https://twitter.com/Michael_Carvell/status/791393362851008517

QuoteSEC's most recent batch of coaching hires don't carry half the weight of their predecessors. Mark Richt, Steve Spurrier and Gary Pinkel were 10-plus year coaches, all among the winningest in program history.

Smart, Muschamp and Odom are a combined 3-10 in conference play this season. Losses to Vanderbilt and Middle Tennessee, scares against Nicholls State and UMass, blowout defeats at the hands of Ole Miss and Florida — all of these are on their resumes.

SEC's recent first-year success stories (Kevin Sumlin, Gus Malzahn, Jim McElwain) have skewed fan expectations of what a first-year coach should reasonably deliver.

Should we be worried about any of these three?



Worry has never a moment to anyone's life span.  We should hope their tenures individually exceed the combined total of Richt, Pinkel, and of course, the Old Ball Coach.
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https://twitter.com/RossDellenger/status/792014654906044417

QuoteThey're wild. They're crazy. And they're pivotal.

Just ask Skip Bertman, who hired Les Miles in 2005 — a move, he admitted, that may overshadow his 870 wins and five national titles as LSU's baseball coach.

"I said to Les Miles on the telephone when I hired him that, even though I won some championships in baseball, I'll be remembered more for my football hire," Bertman said this week. "That's how important this is."

In his search for Nick Saban's replacement in December 2004, Bertman used what he called a "headhunter" to contact candidates at other schools.

"He had a Rolodex full of coaches' private numbers and agents' private numbers," Bertman said of the headhunter. "This guy came back and gave me lots of people available for the money being offered who wanted to come to LSU.

The choice is never easy. Bertman, Templeton and Boone can attest to that.

It begins with a list, a group of five to 10 top candidates that most athletic directors carefully craft and continuously update, said Templeton, who hired Jackie Sherrill in 1991 and Sylvester Croom in 2004 before retiring and serving as a consultant for the SEC.

The next step is deciding what kind of coach you want.

Templeton was focused on Croom, then an assistant for the NFL's Green Bay Packers. He took three trips to Wisconsin, finally convincing Croom to return with him to visit campus on his third trip.

"Once I finally got him to visit the campus, he was sold," Templeton said.

Boone sought a different guy during each of his three searches, and they all unfolded differently, resulting in the hirings of Tommy Tuberville (1995), Orgeron (2005) and Houston Nutt (2008).

When hiring Tuberville, he sought a "CEO type," which Tuberville fit perfectly. Tuberville, who went on to coach at Auburn and Texas Tech and is now at Cincinnati, won the interview, too. That was an important part for Boone, who came from the corporate banking world.

He interviewed two other candidates during that search: then-Auburn offensive coordinator Tommy Bowden and then-Ohio State offensive coordinator Joe Hollis.

Nearly a decade later, during his second stint as athletic director at Ole Miss, Boone gunned for a different style of coach, one who could re-energize the program after he fired David Cutcliffe following the 2004 season.

"You do have a lot of names who come across your desk from various sources, especially when we hired (Orgeron)," he said. "There were tons of names. Some agents are looking to get their clients' names in the hat so they can get a raise."

Boone said Ole Miss officially interviewed three coaches that go-around: Orgeron, then-San Francisco 49ers coach and ex-Miami coach Dennis Erickson and Randy Shannon, then defensive coordinator at Miami.

Ole Miss might have hired Erickson, but there was a snag.

"He didn't want to take this job and lose his buyout clause with the 49ers," Boone said. "He was reluctant in committing."

Inexperience hurt Shannon, so Ole Miss turned to Orgeron, who went 10-25 in three seasons before he was fired. His replacement, then-Arkansas coach Nutt, was hired within a week of Orgeron's ouster — a far different search from Boone's first two.

"(Former Arkansas coach and AD) Frank Broyles called me and told me Houston was going to leave," Boone said. "I had always thought the world of Houston."
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Quote from: jbcarol on October 27, 2016, 11:10:50 am
How's it going for the former '90s era SEC defensive players?

https://twitter.com/Michael_Carvell/status/791393362851008517



Worry has never added a moment to anyone's life span.  We should hope their tenures individually exceed the combined total of Richt, Pinkel, and of course, the Old Ball Coach.

David Cloninger ‏@DCTheState 48m48 minutes ago

Muschamp has preached about winning now. Acknowledges that having this kind of result makes it a lot easier to preach that message.
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https://twitter.com/Mark_Schlabach/status/793088965159116800

Wade Wass ‏@WadeWass_10 3h3 hours ago

Saban's birthday being on Halloween cannot be a coincidence 😂
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https://twitter.com/aldotcomSports/status/794191181244694528

QuoteScarblog: Malzahn has surprised us in so many ways this season.

He changed his sideline look from visor and sweater vest to ballcap and jacket. He changed his job description from primary play-caller to CEO. He's altered his public status from coach on the hot seat to candidate for coach of the year.

One thing about Malzahn and his Auburn program hasn't changed, though, and it might surprise you. Three times in the last four years, he's put the Tigers in the conference and national championship races at the beginning of November.

Only Nick Saban, Urban Meyer, Jimbo Fisher and Dabo Swinney can say the same.
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https://twitter.com/aldotcomSports/status/794184906108760064

QuoteRainer Sabin: Saban didn't hide his disgust in September after LSU fired Les Miles, expressing disappointment about the sad fate of a rival coach and what his former employer had done to get rid of him.

"I kind of hated that a man wins a national championship, wins two SEC titles and doesn't make it through the season," Saban said at his home base on Alabama's campus.

Miles became a victim of the expectations Saban unwittingly created in Baton Rouge, where he transformed a dormant program into a powerhouse in the early aughts. A sleeping giant — better yet a comatose ambush of Tigers — was awakened when Saban left Michigan State and arrived at LSU before the Year 2000.

Almost overnight, he harnessed all of the potential at a university uniquely positioned to succeed on the football field. He won 75 percent of his games and a national title in five years, becoming one of the sport's premier coaches in the process. As the only Power Five program in a state that just so happens to be one of the most fertile recruiting territories in the country, LSU became the laboratory for Saban's first grand experiment.

No other SEC institution had this kind of advantage. Alabama fights with Auburn; Georgia with Georgia Tech; South Carolina with Clemson. Arkansas is unquestionably the flagship university in its state, but it doesn't have access to a deep pool of recruits within its borders. LSU is built to win, so it was somewhat unfathomable that the Tigers didn't for so long.

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Michael Carvell ‏@Michael_Carvell 2m2 minutes ago

Booger McFarland: Les Miles was never the same after 2011 loss to Alabama

https://www.seccountry.com/lsu/booger-mcfarland-les-miles-was-never-the-same-after-2011-loss-to-alabama



Quote"He got outcoached," said Booger McFarland, an SEC Network analyst who played defensive line at LSU until 1999. "Ever since that moment, Les Miles hasn't been the same coach."
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Since 08', #Alabama HC Nick Saban is 67-9 against SEC teams. The revolving door of coaches will continue until this man retires.
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https://twitter.com/Michael_Carvell/status/795070158213681152

QuoteWe've all had bad days. And former Ole Miss and Auburn coach Tommy Tuberville had one of those days on Saturday.

Cincinnati coach was on the losing end of a 20-3 score when his Bearcats hosted BYU. It appears as though Tuberville lashed out at a fan, who appeared to be heckling him from the stands as he made his way back to the locker room.

Tuberville can be heard telling the fan to "go to hell" and to "get a job."
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 Ross Dellenger ‏@RossDellenger 2h2 hours ago

Orgeron on Arkansas: "Me being an ex-Razorback, I know how tough it is to play in Fayetteville."

Coach O on jump from McNeese to Ark: I was working in the summer and friend said asst. strength coach job open at Ark. and I took it.

O on time at Arkansas: "Started off in the weight room. They asked me to go onto the field. Really learned how to coach football."
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Ole Miss dominated the South

QuoteFrom 1959-63, the Rebels were ranked as a top-10 team in 44 consecutive games and won three Sugar Bowl trophies.

Led by John Vaught, Mississippi peaked in '62, then slowly declined over the next decade. Vaught left his post in 1970 after suffering a mild heart attack, returned in '73 for a partial season and then rode off into the Oxford sunset.

The Rebels waited 39 years to climb back into the top 10 (a three-week stint in 2009), and have played a total of 10 games with that designation since Hugh Freeze took over in 2012.
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 Chris Low ‏@ClowESPN 9h9 hours ago Pullman, WA

How good has @DavidCutcliffe been? In last 4 years, Duke has 17 ACC/N. Dame wins. In 18 years prior to his arrival, Duke totaled 14 ACC wins
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 Bruce Feldman ‏@BruceFeldmanCFB 2h2 hours ago

How dominant is #Bama? Last 17 games in SEC: Alabama is 17-0. Tennessee has the next best record at 13-4 followed by Arkansas at 12-5.
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