Jalen Cobb considering AState

[TrueBlue]

http://www.jonesboro.com/newstaffy/item/4230/Cobb%20to%20Malzahn:%20Call%20Me

[3kgthog]

So, basically those that can't get in here will go to Jonesboro High. I'm so glad we are gong to be a feeder program for ASU via our transfers and academic casualties. *heavy sarcasm*

[1hogfan]

Best of luck to Jalen.  I'm sorry he can't be a Hog!

[online-with-swine]

Sucks for us that Jalen can't get here.  The 25 rule is going to hurt the SEC more than they originally figured.

[redswarmrising]

I thought JC was an academic casualty and was going JUCO?

[pedrothelion]

I thought JC was an academic casualty and was going JUCO?

He probably has the grades to get into ASate and the Sun Belt but not AR and the SEC.

[Pragmatic PiG]

he's an academic casualty as a prospective SEC player

[hogfan98]

So, basically those that can't get in here will go to Jonesboro High. I'm so glad we are gong to be a feeder program for ASU via our transfers and academic casualties. *heavy sarcasm*

Academic casualties, yes.  Transfers, probably not.  That title will still go to UCA since there is no requirement to sit out a year.  They've been making a living off of our QBs.

[ICEman]

stAte might have become the haven of the most 4-star and 5-star 'casualty' players of any small-conference school in America.

[SquidBilly]

So let me get this straight.  Gus goes to A-State and now our in state players are going to have an out if they don't do what they're supposed to in high school.  Talk about lowering their motivation.  I can hear the convo at the Cobb house.

Mom:  'Jalen get your homework done.  We want you to be able to get into the University of Arkansas.  Coach Petrino wants you there.'

Jalen:  'Maybe later mom.  And really if I don't get it done Coach Malzahn will always let me come play  for him at A-State.'

A-State was never in the conversation before for top recruits in the state.  Gus is apparently cranking up his people helping business.

[bamahogfan]

When did Warren move to 3 hrs from Jonesboro?

[Kevin]

this is what gus should do. cannot get in at uofa but can at astate. he should try to get him.

[KlubhouseKonnected]

Is Kristi his lead recruiter?

[bigdaddyhawg]

Gus is apparently cranking up his people helping business.

Say what you will about Gus, but don't lump him in with that mongoloid.

[whosiskid]

I guess because my brother teaches as ASU I don't have as much hostility as others here do (though he is far, far, far more a Razorback fan than a . . . something fan . . . not sure what their mascot is now, red something or other?). I actually like that they have improved their program over the past few years and as long as they are never remotely competitors for Arkansas I wish them all the luck in the world.

But I do wonder if the 25 rule is having the effect that they had hoped. Is it helping or hurting us? For example, Harper and Hankins. If the old rules were in place, would Alabama or Auburn have room on their rosters to go after them? So there may be players we are in the hunt for that we might not otherwise have a shot at. But clearly we were hurt with Cobb.

I wonder if they adjust the number soon. Maybe fudge it up to 28.

[McHogLovin]

Is Kristi his lead recruiter?

Head recruiter

[razorback44]

Not sure why everyone is pissed at Gus. The article states that State hasn't even contacted him. Its just Jalen saying he would be interested if they did call.

[HoggyCat]

When did Warren move to 3 hrs from Jonesboro?

Not sure about Warren, but I make it to Dumas from Jonesboro in 3 hrs quite often. So it won't much more than three.


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[McHogLovin]

Not sure why everyone is pissed at Gus. The article states that State hasn't even contacted him. Its just Jalen saying he would be interested if they did call.

Not sure why anyone is mad at Gus, period.  I didn't like him at Auburn for obvious reasons.  I'm not gonna hold a grudge on him for trying to pick up the best players he can.  And of course he's gonna take kids we offered a year ago but they barely miss getting in.  He'll have UofA talent at A-State.  Plus, he also benifits from CBP going out of state so much. Half the kids Gus gets from Arkansas would have been hogs 10 years ago.

[SEdrhawg]

Not sure about Warren, but I make it Dumas from Jonesboro quite often. So it won't much more than three.

Ummmmm.....

[SEdrhawg]

Say what you will about Gus, but don't lump him in with that mongoloid.

You're right, I would probably put Malzahn a little lower on the ladder than HDN

[Aston Martin 8 dude]

So, basically those that can't get in here will go to Jonesboro High. I'm so glad we are gong to be a feeder program for ASU via our transfers and academic casualties. *heavy sarcasm*

Wait a second there big boy. We already have a very successful "feeder program"  (i.e. farm club)in the form of a Conway-based school with the colors of purple, gray and white. 

[razorhead94]

Jalen doesn't have the ACT score.  He's going to JUCO unless he can raise it.

[bigdaddyhawg]

You're right, I would probably put Malzahn a little lower on the ladder than HDN

Then you and the truth on this matter are unfamiliar.

[The Boar War]

Not sure about Warren, but I make it to Dumas from Jonesboro in 3 hrs quite often. So it won't much more than three.


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Are you racing crop dusters?

[2FNFST4U]

I don't get all the animosity toward ASU. It would be great to have another legit option for in state players that can't get into BCS programs. Having a solid program at ASU keeps kids in state and is a win win.

If they got some decent home games lined up I would go see a quality match up.

[(notOM)Rebel123]

..... Plus, he also benifits from CBP going out of state so much. Half the kids Gus gets from Arkansas would have been hogs 10 years ago.

I checked the rosters of both the UofA and ASU. UofA had 48 Arkansans and ASU had 41.

[chiefsfan]

Just so im clear on this ahead of time...are you guys going to have massive threads like this every time we actively recruit the same athletes?

This is a 26 post thread about a guy who couldnt qualify for Arkansas anyway.   ASU could oversign and pick him up on the off chance that he happens to pass the ACT in the Spring or Summer, but most people here acknowledge he has a slim chance of doing that.

In between at least 3 of you have massivelly overreacted to the entire issue.  Gus hasnt even contacted Jalen yet...there is no guarantee he will.  Jalen Cobb initiated this entire thread.

[BrianWPS!!]

I don't get all the animosity toward ASU. It would be great to have another legit option for in state players that can't get into BCS programs. Having a solid program at ASU keeps kids in state and is a win win.

If they got some decent home games lined up I would go see a quality match up.

I agree with this, I'd root for astate everytime I see them play just for the fact of friends on the team. I say the more respect that is given to Arkansas, from both teams, the better. I don't think it'll ever be a rivalry that I'd have to worry about losing.
Hey, WPS and Go stAte. This isn't Alabama

[bigdaddyhawg]

Just so im clear on this ahead of time...are you guys going to have massive threads like this every time we actively recruit the same athletes?

Yes.

There are a handful of obsessions Hogville has, and Gus Malzahn is one of them.

[Tusks]

Thats where its going to hurt the hogs........kids that can't get in that the hogs would 'place' at a Juco are just going to
head to asu.....the good thing is most kids the hogs send to juco don't make it back.........so i don't see much of a
difference with Gus there.....just more press.

[bigdaddyhawg]

Thats where its going to hurt the hogs........kids that can't get in that the hogs would 'place' at a Juco are just going to
head to asu.....the good thing is most kids the hogs send to juco don't make it back.........so i don't see much of a
difference with Gus there.....just more press.

I noticed we are doing a whole lot less of this 'sign and place' than ever used to go on.

We are also looking to JC's for key recruits, as opposed to filling a third of the team in desperation, as used to commonly take place.

[booogaga]

Everyone knows that Gus is going to bail after one good season at ASU just like every other coach looking for advancement. ASU is a cesspool.

[iseeredpeople]

If a kid isn't motivated enough to make his grades to play for the hogs he isn't going to be motivated enough to play for BP.  Let Gus have them.

[booogaga]

If a kid isn't motivated enough to make his grades to play for the hogs he isn't going to be motivated enough to play for BP.  Let Gus have them.

Ding Ding Ding. Plus as a posted before, anyone who goes to A-State because of Gus is silly because the dude will be gone as soon as a better opportunity comes up.

[KlubhouseKonnected]

Just so im clear on this ahead of time...are you guys going to have massive threads like this every time we actively recruit the same athletes?

This is a 26 post thread about a guy who couldnt qualify for Arkansas anyway.   ASU could oversign and pick him up on the off chance that he happens to pass the ACT in the Spring or Summer, but most people here acknowledge he has a slim chance of doing that.

In between at least 3 of you have massivelly overreacted to the entire issue.  Gus hasnt even contacted Jalen yet...there is no guarantee he will.  Jalen Cobb initiated this entire thread.

fyi I am going to crap on Astate at every opportunity as long as Gus is there. Try not to take it personal.

[chiefsfan]

fyi I am going to crap on Astate at every opportunity as long as Gus is there. Try not to take it personal.

I fully exect it.    As long as you are taking pot shots at Gus and ASU for at least 4 years. 

[Spider-Pig]

Ding Ding Ding. Plus as a posted before, anyone who goes to A-State because of Gus is silly because the dude will be gone as soon as a better opportunity comes up.

2 years tops

[songofthesword]

you guys lol come on

this is nothing more than a publicity stunt. he doesn't have a passing ACT score to get into college. Gus signs the kid, gets to puff out his chest about "stealing one from Arkansas", all the while the kid goes to juco. he's not going to A state. he 's not going to any 4 year school. he can't even get into prep school but yes he's going to go to the sun belt. come on guys seriously.

[mhuff]

Why not hold out and not sign with anyone. He has more time to pass an ACT test. Then, he could always go JUCO or prep.We may have an open schollie if we hold some open for players not signing until NSD or afterwards.

[mhuff]

You're right, I would probably put Malzahn a little lower on the ladder than HDN

I graduated from ASU. My two sons graduated from UA.I have been to maybe 30 ASU games and 80 UA games. I wouldn't let Malzahn take my dog for a walk.... IF I OWNED ONE.

[Seminole Indian]

fyi I am going to crap on Astate at every opportunity as long as Gus is there. Try not to take it personal.

Hopefully, it will be for a long time.

[HogCzar1]

Hopefully, it will be for a long time.

How long do you predict? 10 years?

[HoggyCat]

I don't get all the animosity toward ASU. It would be great to have another legit option for in state players that can't get into BCS programs. Having a solid program at ASU keeps kids in state and is a win win.

If they got some decent home games lined up I would go see a quality match up.

They had Louisville at home this year. Until you're here and hear the animosity a lot of asu fans have for Arkansas, then don't question my animosity for them.

[hard_reign2004]

So, basically those that can't get in here will go to Jonesboro High. I'm so glad we are gong to be a feeder program for ASU via our transfers and academic casualties. *heavy sarcasm*

There is the belief in NEA that ASU benefits from the hogs being good.  When the hogs are at the top of their game then ASU can get more of the good Arkansas high school kids....  Sounds reasonable...

[HoggyCat]

fyi I am going to crap on Astate at every opportunity as long as Gus is there. Try not to take it personal.

This is my sentiment.

[chiefsfan]

They had Louisville at home this year. Until you're here and hear the animosity a lot of asu fans have for Arkansas, then don't question my animosity for them.

Louisville was last year.   And you are right...many of our fans do not like Arkansas.   They dont have to, so they chose not too.

It only becomes an issue when the two sides decide to bicker about it because neither can understand the others opinion.  Such is life.

[HoggyCat]

Louisville was last year.   And you are right...many of our fans do not like Arkansas.   They dont have to, so they chose not too.

It only becomes an issue when the two sides decide to bicker about it because neither can understand the others opinion.  Such is life.

Why do a lot of the ones that HATE (not dislike) Arkansas beg us to buy tickets? That's what pisses me off, especially when some of those don't go themselves. They say I can be fans of both teams..

It goes both ways....................

[pigfeet]

How long do you predict? 10 years?

Depends on how long J'boro can put up with Kristi Malzahn. I'm sure she'll be talking down to those folks from NEA.

[Birminghog]

I'm so glad we are gong to be a feeder program for ASU via our transfers and academic casualties. *heavy sarcasm*

This is how it works for a number of good second-tier teams.  Troy has benefited for years from the leavings from Auburn's table.

A I-AA school where I used to teach had as its coach one of Bobby Bowden's sons.  Rumor had it that a lot of our success came from smart kids down the depth chart at Florida State who would transfer to us & be able to play the first year.  Even down the depth chart at FSU, they were bigger & faster (especially faster) than most players at I-AA schools.

Makes me wonder part of the success at Youngstown State under Tressel came from tOSU near-misses.