I watched Wisconsin last night . . .

[kennypig]

so, that is what we should have looked like the last 2 - 3 years. I was also surprised by how good their defense looked.

[IronHog]

Wisc is a mid tier SEC team.  Nothing more nothing less

[Pig Worshipper]

Wisc is a mid tier SEC team.  Nothing more nothing less

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I think you are right but unfortunately that makes them much better than the Hogs, since only Vanderbilt has a worse record than us in the last several years.

[Razorback_Mack]

Wisc is a mid tier SEC team.  Nothing more nothing less

Maybe true. I wish we were. What's your point?

[Hogarusa]

Such a silly mindset to think there are 6 teams in the SEC better than a 13-1 Wiscy team with a 2000 yard freshmen RB. Wiscy would be a 7-1 conf record squad in either the East or the West. SEC fanbases have been riding the success of Saban and LSU/Bama for a decade now.

[AirWarren]

Such a silly mindset to think there are 6 teams in the SEC better than a 13-1 Wiscy team with a 2000 yard freshmen RB. Wiscy would be a 7-1 squad in either the East or the Wedt. SEC fanbases have been riding the success of Saban and LSU/Bama for a decade now.

Agreed

Wisconsin would survive just fine in the SEC. As would Ohio State, Michigan and PSU.

[LRRandy]

Wisc is a mid tier SEC team.  Nothing more nothing less

2010 called. It wants its opinion back.

[GoHogs1091]

The Mediocre 10 Conference lived up to its name this season.

Even Meyer and Harbaugh under achieved this season.

[AirWarren]

The Mediocre 10 Conference lived up to its name this season.

Even Meyer and Harbaugh under achieved this season.

Yet Arkansas is 3 wins. No Bowl.

Wisconsin is 13 wins. Orange bowl winner.

[IronHog]

Such a silly mindset to think there are 6 teams in the SEC better than a 13-1 Wiscy team with a 2000 yard freshmen RB. Wiscy would be a 7-1 conf record squad in either the East or the West. SEC fanbases have been riding the success of Saban and LSU/Bama for a decade now.

Because going on the road to BYU and Indiana is the same as LSU and Bama 🙄

[LRRandy]

Because going on the road to BYU and Indiana is the same as LSU and Bama 🙄

or losing to Troy and having to schedule Mercer.

[SooieGeneris]

Such a silly mindset to think there are 6 teams in the SEC better than a 13-1 Wiscy team with a 2000 yard freshmen RB. Wiscy would be a 7-1 conf record squad in either the East or the West. SEC fanbases have been riding the success of Saban and LSU/Bama for a decade now.

So I'm assuming that you're giving the Badgers a loss to 'Bama and automatic wins over Auburn, LSU and MSU? It's easy to write checks with your keyboard knowing you'll never have to back it up.

Wisconsin was holding Miami all night and getting away with it, I've never seen Mark Richt go ballistic like he did. They were lucky to win that game and played a meh schedule.

No way that team would go 7-1 in either division of the SEC not having any Indianas or Illinois. Their division of the Big 10 is WEAK.

[SooieGeneris]

Because going on the road to BYU and Indiana is the same as LSU and Bama 🙄

That's a real murderer's row of a schedule right there... We saw what happened when the Badgers played a real team they didn't have 5-6 weeks to prep for.

Had they played the Hogs schedule, they would obviously have won more than the 4 Bert managed, but nowhere near 13. When a team plays 3-4 ranked teams in a row at times every season it wears a team down mentally and physically. The stinkin' Badgers wouldn't know what that's like.

[Pigasaurus]

 It was strange watching them run basically the same plays we ran or tried to.

[King Kong]

Yet Arkansas is 3 wins. No Bowl.

Wisconsin is 13 wins. Orange bowl winner.

We had 4

[Kevin]

they seem to find a way to play a weak big ten schedule

[AirWarren]

We had 4

Oh. Pardon me.

[DeltaBoy]

The Zebra crew gifted Whiskey that game yesterday!

[LRRandy]

The Zebra crew gifted Whiskey that game yesterday!

you mean when they gave Miami the ball on what they called a fumble when Taylor's elbow and knee were down before the ball came out? Did you watch the game?

[IronHog]

or losing to Troy and having to schedule Mercer.

Troy would be an upgrade on that schedule


The SEC is all about the grind......whisky has zero grind to their schedules

[LRRandy]

So I'm assuming that you're giving the Badgers a loss to 'Bama and automatic wins over Auburn, LSU and MSU? It's easy to write checks with your keyboard knowing you'll never have to back it up.

Wisconsin was holding Miami all night and getting away with it, I've never seen Mark Richt go ballistic like he did. They were lucky to win that game and played a meh schedule.

No way that team would go 7-1 in either division of the SEC not having any Indianas or Illinois. Their division of the Big 10 is WEAK.

that's not what I saw  it was a true road game not a neutral site. Miami was at home. Miami was up 14-3. Wisconsin fought back controlling the clock on long sustained drive dominating what all season had been a really solid Miami defense. I didn't see any luck involved. Just good, solid, football being played.

[IronHog]

that's not what I saw  it was a true road game not a neutral site. Miami was at home. Miami was up 14-3. Wisconsin fought back controlling the clock on long sustained drive dominating what all season had been a really solid Miami defense. I didn't see any luck involved. Just good, solid, football being played.

Good football team that would finish 3-4 in the SEC west


Is what it is

[LRRandy]

Troy would be an upgrade on that schedule


The SEC is all about the grind......whisky has zero grind to their schedules

yeah, that Florida, Vanderbilt, Tenessee, Missouri , Kentucky murdereres row Georgia got to inflate their schedule with is a real grind.

[hogcards]

Wisc is a mid tier SEC team.  Nothing more nothing less

The mighty SEC, who's won a whopping 1 bowl game to date?

[LRRandy]

Good football team that would finish 3-4 in the SEC west


Is what it is

ok Parrot boy. We heard you earlier in the thread. You are stuck in an outdated view of the sec. You probably walk across the room to change the television and roll down your car window by cranking a handle. Nostalgia is good. Most of us live in the present.

[StoernerJonesFan]

What are the bowl records for each conference now?

[Cinco de Hogo]

ok Parrot boy. We heard you earlier in the thread. You are stuck in an outdated view of the sec. You probably walk across the room to change the television and roll down your car window by cranking a handle. Nostalgia is good. Most of us live in the present.

Ha I walk across the room to change channels...

Because I forgot we're at I put the remote.

Oh and the SEC stinks, I wouldn't be surprised if both Alabama and Georgia lost there games.

Or won them both. 😉

[IronHog]

ok Parrot boy. We heard you earlier in the thread. You are stuck in an outdated view of the sec. You probably walk across the room to change the television and roll down your car window by cranking a handle. Nostalgia is good. Most of us live in the present.

SEC may be down but it's way better than Whiskys powder puff schedule


They played one team that was better than them and lost

[IronHog]

What are the bowl records for each conference now?

Bowl records mean zero

[LRRandy]

SEC may be down but it's way better than Whiskys powder puff schedule


They played one team that was better than them and lost

hmm. Sounds like Alabama.

[Cinco de Hogo]

SEC may be down but it's way better than Whiskys powder puff schedule


They played one team that was better than them and lost

That sound like Petrino hate!  Forget he went 21-5 he lost to all the teams that were better than his team.

[LRRandy]

Bowl records mean zero

how far in the sand do you stick your head? You go from being a parrot to an ostrich. You got a zoo over there?

The perception of the strength of the conference a team plays in is directly tied to bowl game wins and losses. The eye test, how good a team looks or is perceived to be, is largely based on how strong is the conference they play in. Bowl records mean a lot.

[Hog N Bama]

Troy would be an upgrade on that schedule


The SEC is all about the grind......whisky has zero grind to their schedules

BINGO!! Thank you for pointing out the REAL reason they are playing in the Orange Bowl, yet not in the playoffs. Same for Ohio St.  Play SOMEBODY and give us a shout big boy.

[LRRandy]

BINGO!! Thank you for pointing out the REAL reason they are playing in the Orange Bowl, yet not in the playoffs. Same for Ohio St.  Play SOMEBODY and give us a shout big boy.

seriously? Ask Bama to play someone, not tOhio State. Has Bama beaten a 13 win team? No. tOhio State did. Does Bama have two wins against 11 win teams, one a conference champion? No. tOhio State does. Did Bama have two other wins against 10 win teams? No. tOhio State did. So that's 5 wins against teams that won 10 games or more, three of those teams being ranked in the top 10. 36% of their schedule won 10 or more games. Bama has not played a team that won 10 games. Their best win is against LSU that won 8 games. Have Bama play someone and call me big boy.

[Hog N Bama]

seriously? Ask Bama to play someone, not tOhio State. Has Bama beaten a 13 win team? No. tOhio State did. Does Bama have two wins against 11 win teams, one a conference champion? No. tOhio State does. Did Bama have two other wins against 10 win teams? No. tOhio State did. So that's 5 wins against teams that won 10 games or more, three of those teams being ranked in the top 10. 36% of their schedule won 10 or more games. Bama has not played a team that won 10 games. Their best win is against LSU that won 8 games. Have Bama play someone and call me big boy.

Yeah Ohio St plays teams that don't have tough schedules either so there's your answer 

[swinemaster]

Conference supremecy is such an old tired argument. Arkansas was worse than Indiana this year. Missouri, Florida, Tennessee, Vandy, TAMU, Miss, Kentucky weren't much better. The SEC is top heavy just like the Big 10. 

There are 10 or so team's from various conferences who have a chance to compete for the title year in and year out. They aren't changing under this system.

[LRRandy]

Yeah Ohio St plays teams that don't have tough schedules either so there's your answer 

funny. No one anywhere plays anybody.

[IronHog]

how far in the sand do you stick your head? You go from being a parrot to an ostrich. You got a zoo over there?

The perception of the strength of the conference a team plays in is directly tied to bowl game wins and losses. The eye test, how good a team looks or is perceived to be, is largely based on how strong is the conference they play in. Bowl records mean a lot.

how far in the sand do you stick your head? You go from being a parrot to an ostrich. You got a zoo over there?

The perception of the strength of the conference a team plays in is directly tied to bowl game wins and losses. The eye test, how good a team looks or is perceived to be, is largely based on how strong is the conference they play in. Bowl records mean a lot.

Cause the #4 team from conference A beating the #6 team from conference B by 3 in the fruit loops Bowl is the determining factor of conference strength 🙄

One game matchups mean little......esp bowls

[LRRandy]

Cause the #4 team from conference A beating the #6 team from conference B by 3 in the fruit loops Bowl is the determining factor of conference strength 🙄

One game matchups mean little......esp bowls

what ever helps you sleep at night. The sec is fading. No amount of message board rationalization by you can change that.

[Atlhogfan1]

so, that is what we should have looked like the last 2 - 3 years. I was also surprised by how good their defense looked.

No.  What we should have started looking like this season and going forward.  It took time for Wisconsin to build to this.  We weren't getting there though because the oline wasn't being built properly. 

[Atlhogfan1]

.. 

[LRRandy]

No.  What we should have started looking like this season and going forward.  It took time for Wisconsin to build to this.  We weren't getting there though because the oline wasn't being built properly.

that's the confusing part about the Bielema rebuild. It seemed that he was on track early with a huge punishing Oline. Chaney left and Enos turns Arkansas into a chuck it around team. As talented as Enos is (I believe that he is a good OC), it appears the error by Bielema was hiring Enos and morphing into a different style team. They ended up being caught between a sh*t and a squat and not a very effective offense.

[IronHog]

what ever helps you sleep at night. The sec is fading. No amount of message board rationalization by you can change that.

Fading in what regard?


Watching 2 SEC games right now and they play in both playoff games tonight.


Wisky is 13-irrelevant

[Bubba's Bruisers]

that's the confusing part about the Bielema rebuild. It seemed that he was on track early with a huge punishing Oline. Chaney left and Enos turns Arkansas into a chuck it around team. As talented as Enos is (I believe that he is a good OC), it appears the error by Bielema was hiring Enos and morphing into a different style team. They ended up being caught between a sh*t and a squat and not a very effective offense.

I don't think BB was ever willing to completely commit to what Enos does.  Went with smaller, more athletic OL, but still wanted to play in a phone booth a good portion of the time.  Played TOP.  Disaster.

And questionable player development and playing time.

[holeinthewall]

This is an incredible threead of sucking the SEC schlong.  Yet Arkansas wouldn't fair any better in the Big 12, Big 10 or ACC than the sec.  And in basketball can you imagine playing in the ACC.  .500 would be a great year.

[IronHog]

This is an incredible threead of sucking the SEC schlong.  Yet Arkansas wouldn't fair any better in the Big 12, Big 10 or ACC than the sec.  And in basketball can you imagine playing in the ACC.  .500 would be a great year.

The SEC grind is real


ND might beat LSU in a bowl but they'd get blown out the next week in reg season the way they were getting lit up

[#1 STUNNA]

seriously? Ask Bama to play someone, not tOhio State. Has Bama beaten a 13 win team? No. tOhio State did. Does Bama have two wins against 11 win teams, one a conference champion? No. tOhio State does. Did Bama have two other wins against 10 win teams? No. tOhio State did. So that's 5 wins against teams that won 10 games or more, three of those teams being ranked in the top 10. 36% of their schedule won 10 or more games. Bama has not played a team that won 10 games. Their best win is against LSU that won 8 games. Have Bama play someone and call me big boy.

This sounds great and all... but you forgot to leave out something very important..... Bama didnt get murdered by 31 points. Great teams dont get murdered.