Bielema take on Austin Allen

[Dillon23]

Just reading Austin's Bio on the NFL combine page and saw this.

"Former head coach, Bret Bielema believes Allen has been permanently affected by these ailments"

In reference to his shoulder injuries.  Although it may be honest and true, it doesn't sound like the endorsement you would want from the coach that put you in the position to get pounded every game.   

[code red]

Bret looking out for Bret.

[31to6]

Just reading Austin's Bio on the NFL combine page and saw this.

"Former head coach, Bret Bielema believes Allen has been permanently affected by these ailments"

In reference to his shoulder injuries.  Although it may be honest and true, it doesn't sound like the endorsement you would want from the coach that put you in the position to get pounded every game.   

What a spiteful, vindictive thing to say.

[Inhogswetrust]

Just reading Austin's Bio on the NFL combine page and saw this.

"Former head coach, Bret Bielema believes Allen has been permanently affected by these ailments"

In reference to his shoulder injuries.  Although it may be honest and true, it doesn't sound like the endorsement you would want from the coach that put you in the position to get pounded every game.   

I think we should ask Austin what ailments affect Bret...........

[onebadrubi]

Just reading Austin's Bio on the NFL combine page and saw this.

"Former head coach, Bret Bielema believes Allen has been permanently affected by these ailments"

In reference to his shoulder injuries.  Although it may be honest and true, it doesn't sound like the endorsement you would want from the coach that put you in the position to get pounded every game.   

If I were any of the three Allen's affiliated with Bielema in his time here, I would have an issue with that comment and I think I'd release a few comments myself.  That is a complete BS comment and possibly comes from an issue Bielema had with Austin. 

The only thing Bielema did more damage too than the Allen brothers bodies was the bottle. 

[(notOM)Rebel123]

Just reading Austin's Bio on the NFL combine page and saw this.

"Former head coach, Bret Bielema believes Allen has been permanently affected by these ailments"

In reference to his shoulder injuries.  Although it may be honest and true, it doesn't sound like the endorsement you would want from the coach that put you in the position to get pounded every game.   

How do you know Bret actually said this? He isn't quoted in the analysis.

https://www.nfl.com/prospects/austin-allen?id=32462018-0002-5601-179e-7f64e9949129

[Dillon23]

I don't know how to confirm it, but one would assume that when a writer actually mentions his name, that it would be sourced.

[AFWarrior83]

I think we should ask Austin what ailments affect Bret...........

Obesity? High blood pressure?

[DeltaBoy]

Just reading Austin's Bio on the NFL combine page and saw this.

"Former head coach, Bret Bielema believes Allen has been permanently affected by these ailments"

In reference to his shoulder injuries.  Although it may be honest and true, it doesn't sound like the endorsement you would want from the coach that put you in the position to get pounded every game.   

Damn he threw AA under the Bus!

[JIHawg]

Let's ask Austin about any alcohol issues.

[baitshop]

How do you know Bret actually said this? He isn’t quoted in the analysis.

https://www.nfl.com/prospects/austin-allen?id=32462018-0002-5601-179e-7f64e9949129

Actually, at the bottom of the analysis, it does confirm the quote/thought in 1st post of thread.

[Tusks]

BB is an asshat.

[ImHogginIt]

How do you know Bret actually said this? He isn't quoted in the analysis.

https://www.nfl.com/prospects/austin-allen?id=32462018-0002-5601-179e-7f64e9949129

Scroll down to the weaknesses section to see it

[farmhawg]

BB is an asshat.

[nchogg]

I want to see what he said with my own eyes. If he said that my opinion of him would make him hog s**t.

[jgphillips3]

But he's such a "nice guy"...

[PorkRinds]

I know we all like to assume the worst but could it be that Bielema didn't say it in the context of bashing him? Context sure would help determine why he said it.

[twistitup]

Just reading Austin's Bio on the NFL combine page and saw this.

"Former head coach, Bret Bielema believes Allen has been permanently affected by these ailments"

In reference to his shoulder injuries.  Although it may be honest and true, it doesn't sound like the endorsement you would want from the coach that put you in the position to get pounded every game.   

Surprising? Not in the least...

In the link above - it's listed under official 'weaknesses'


"Former head coach, Bret Bielema believes Allen has been permanently affected by these ailments"

[Ugly Uncle]

I know we all like to assume the worst but could it be that Bielema didn't say it in the context of bashing him? Context sure would help determine why he said it.

If he was asked point blank, "Do you believe those ailments are permanent?"  I would expect he would have to be honest with his assessment.

Not that I like it, but I understand it.

[greenEGnHAWGS]

What a spiteful, vindictive thing to say.

But why would BB be spiteful or vindictive towards AA?

[PorkRinds]

If he was asked point blank, "Do you believe those ailments are permanent?"  I would expect he would have to be honest with his assessment.

Not that I like it, but I understand it.

Right. Or possibly they saw something specific about his shoulder and asked CBB about it. Heck, they could have even cut part of the quote and he said that and "but I feel like he's still a great option at QB". There's just no telling with just a small snippet of info. I don't see CBB having any reason to bash Austin needlessly. 

[Cure]

What's the deal? You want him to lie about it? You could see he wasn't the same this season.

[aloha_kid]

What a spiteful, vindictive thing to say.

You don't think all the poking and prodding they undergo wouldn't reveal the injury.  BTW, I wouldn't read too much into anything he says, he's not a doctor.  While it may be his belief, any team seriously looking at him will be able to verify it.

[aloha_kid]

If he was asked point blank, "Do you believe those ailments are permanent?"  I would expect he would have to be honest with his assessment.

Not that I like it, but I understand it.

Clearly Bret's lack of medical training is apparent.  An opinion coming from someone without medical training really doesn't matter ... it's just an opinion.  Any NFL team considering taking him, will fully vet his injuries.

[Dwight_K_Shrute]

The ailments were caused by sorry ass offensive line that was caused by highly questionable recruiting and the hire of a guy that should never coach at the P5 level again.  Bet Bert won't claim that nugget unless of course it was battered and deep fried.

[King Kong]

So his crappy Oline is the reason if it has

[(notOM)Rebel123]

Scroll down to the weaknesses section to see it

Actually, at the bottom of the analysis, it does confirm the quote/thought in 1st post of thread.

No it doesn't. It just states...
"Former head coach, Bret Bielema believes Allen has been permanently affected by these ailments".
That's not a direct quote. Not a staunch defender of CBB by any stretch. But to write that in the analysis without a direct quote is weak.

[Hogvillage Idiot]

NM

[rude1]

What's the deal? You want him to lie about it? You could see he wasn't the same this season.

Lie about it? How about not just speculate on it? Which is what he did, he doesn't know but he speculated that it "might" be permanent. Could have phrased that a thousand different ways yet he chose the most negative he could find, but of course to some he is still this great fat wonderful teddy bear.

[hoglady]

I've never thought Bielema was this great, stand up guy folks thought he was.

This just further confirms what I've always thought.

[Nashville Fan]

So now CBB is giving medical opinions? He went to medical school with the 15MM? AA should sue CBB for illegal release of personal medical information.

[31to6]

Lie about it? How about not just speculate on it? Which is what he did, he doesn't know but he speculated that it "might" be permanent. Could have phrased that a thousand different ways yet he chose the most negative he could find, but of course to some he is still this great fat wonderful teddy bear.

Exactly.

BB, in an alternate universe, "Austin is a tough kid with a strong work ethic. I'm not a doctor, but I can say that I've seen him work through injuries before and return to the field."

There is always a way to answer a question truthfully that doesn't torch someone. Particularly when your entire persona is wrapped around how much you care for your players.

Fact is, nobody can know whether AA's injuries are permanent because every person recovers differently. I've seen a person return to the field who was told they would never walk again.

[hoglady]

If he was asked point blank, "Do you believe those ailments are permanent?"  I would expect he would have to be honest with his assessment.

Not that I like it, but I understand it.

All he had to say was that's a question for the medical professionals - how hard would that have been.
And actually that's a much more appropriate response instead of Bielema's speculation.

[ChitownHawg]

Lie about it? How about not just speculate on it? Which is what he did, he doesn't know but he speculated that it "might" be permanent. Could have phrased that a thousand different ways yet he chose the most negative he could find, but of course to some he is still this great fat wonderful teddy bear.

You are speculating as to what CBB said as the writer paraphrased CBB. Some of you guys are just whiney little babies. He is gone - get over it. You sound like a jilted girl.

[ChitownHawg]

All he had to say was that's a question for the medical professionals - how hard would that have been.
And actually that's a much more appropriate response instead of Bielema's speculation.

Are you sure CBB hasn't seen the medical analysis? AA was his QB.

[Nashville Fan]

All he had to say was that's a question for the medical professionals - how hard would that have been.
And actually that's a much more appropriate response instead of Bielema's speculation.

It is very reasonable to assume BB would have had access to medical trainer's opinions. NFL teams know this. It was not received as speculation and was highly inappropriate, if not illegal.

[Athog]

I don't know how to confirm it, but one would assume that when a writer actually mentions his name, that it would be sourced.

In this day I am not so sure!

[hoglady]

Are you sure CBB hasn’t seen the medical analysis? AA was his QB.

That really doesn't matter - wasn't his information to give out / it's Austin's medical information.

[hoglady]

It is very reasonable to assume BB would have had access to medical trainer's opinions. NFL teams know this. It was not received as speculation and was highly inappropriate, if not illegal.

You're right if he based it off Austin's medical information instead of speculation - that's even worse.

[ChitownHawg]

That really doesn't matter - wasn't his information to give out / it's Austin's medical information.

Again you are jumping to a conclusion from an indirect quote.

[PorkRinds]

Some of y'all are total drama queens.

[Wildhog]

Some of y'all are total drama queens.

I don't know, man.  I kinda agree with them.  Bielema has no idea if it's permanent or not.  Not to mention it was his damn fault to begin with.

[SooieGeneris]

Once again, Bert's alligator mouth is at work. The guy just can't help himself, he's got to express an opinion when he just as easily could have refrained from trashing one of his former player's chances of getting drafted in the late rounds.

Bert looking after Bert as he seeks an NFL assistant job or analyst job at the college level even as he has a Brinks truck loaded with UA money parked in his garage..

Mark my words; if we win more than 6 games in 2018, Blabbermouth Bert will come forward to try to take credit for it when he should be apologizing for tanking the 2017 season with most of the same players..

Is not destroying seat cushions part of a 12 step program?

[PorkRinds]

I don't know, man.  I kinda agree with them.  Bielema has no idea if it's permanent or not.  Not to mention it was his damn fault to begin with.

We have no idea what he said. Unless it's a direct quote it's hard to get too worked up about it.

[ChitownHawg]

I don't know, man.  I kinda agree with them.  Bielema has no idea if it's permanent or not.  Not to mention it was his damn fault to begin with.

Agree with what? An indirect quote which means we don't know his actual words nor the context. Seems dramatic to me.

But we do this to every coach that leaves.

[ChitownHawg]

Once again, Bert's alligator mouth is at work. The guy just can't help himself, he's got to express an opinion when he just as easily could have refrained from trashing one of his former player's chances of getting drafted in the late rounds.

Bert looking after Bert as he seeks an NFL assistant job or analyst job at the college level even as he has a Brinks truck loaded with UA money parked in his garage..

Mark my words; if we win more than 6 games in 2018, Blabbermouth Bert will come forward to try to take credit for it when he should be apologizing for tanking the 2017 season with most of the same players..

Is not destroying seat cushions part of a 12 step program?

You mean expressing an opinion like you are doing?

[Wildhog]

We have no idea what he said. Unless it's a direct quote it's hard to get too worked up about it.

I assume the writer didn't just attribute words to Bielema that he didn't say.

Whether that's a fair assumption or not is debatable.

[Wildhog]

Agree with what? An indirect quote which means we don't know his actual words nor the context. Seems dramatic to me.

But we do this to every coach that leaves.

I didn't wait for him to leave.  I haven't liked him since 2015.

[The OTR]

Let's be honest.  Four years of wear and tear on his shoulder throwing the football, eating jelly sandwiches at halftime and cracking and eating lobsters. 

Most quarterbacks only have the stress of throwing.  Arkansas quarterbacks have to endure too much workload and repetitive motions.  Too much stress and strain.

[ChitownHawg]

I didn't wait for him to leave.  I haven't liked him since 2015.

True.  You be hatin on him a while.