All Things Malik Monk

[Hawg Red]

Touche'  It's just hard to see Malik going anywhere else.  I mean has someone ever had a strong of family ties with a school and been so close to the school and went somewhere else?  His brother and cousin are both hogs, and his brother is a GA currently on the basketball staff.  That would be a very upsetting upset if someone stole him away.  I understand being cautious and not assuming, but anyone can see he's ours to lose, and that's probably what the experts are basing their opinions off of.

I guess, but I don't know what they're looking at.

As I said, why hasn't he committed yet?

[Hawg Red]

actually, technically yes. 10% is more than infinite times greater than 0% lol.

If you're assuming there's a 0% chance on Frazier. He isn't signed yet. I don't expect us to flip him at all, but I'm just saying I'm not entirely convinced we have a better shot with Monk. I think the story with Monk could end up playing out like it did with Archie Goodwin, who I would compare to Josh Frazier.

[HawgAdvocate]

I guess, but I don't know what they're looking at.

As I said, why hasn't he committed yet?

You're right, it's anybody's guess right now. Let's not forget that Madden was set to sign with Ole Miss the morning of his signing day until Mickelson and Madden's nephew swayed him enough to disappoint both his mother (Ole Miss) and sister (Baylor).

Beard originally chose Mizzou, Goodwin chose UK, and KeVaughn Allen is supposedly favoring three stronger programs at this time. Nothing is guaranteed. Even with Monk's mother being given a better job, providing Malik a better high school education, and providing Marcus with an introductory job into coaching college basketball, Malik still hasn't committed. 

[NEA_HogFan]

Here is a better video
http://www.hoopmixtape.com/malik-monk-insane-buzzerbeater-win-game-posterizes-defender/

[yraciv]

Maybe he want to go back to EPC where he LEARNED to play the game! amazing how small school produce talent! He may like to comforts of home.. He could play at the smallest school in the state and is going to get the same chance to play at any college he want to attend. He really owes it to the people of EPC to come back for all the support they gave him over the first 16 years of his life! Course now EPC doesnt have a job that marcus can have for bringing him back..

I love how EPC folks think they are entitled. Why does he owe you?  You witnessed the kid blossom into an elite player. He'll still rep you and call it home, just like Madden does. He just moved on 3 years earlier, but it was going to happen eventually. 

Noone is saying you can't come out of a small school. Obviously it has been done before, but Malik has moved on to a program with tougher competition, and to a school which can find him marquee nonconference games to help him grow as a player. It also helps that he is around his brother, and has the opportunity to practice with D1 players now. I'm sure Lepanto did a great job bringing him up, but it is evident he has moved on to bigger opportunities. He isn't coming back, nor should he.

[-Blu]

I guess, but I don't know what they're looking at.

As I said, why hasn't he committed yet?

He's 2016, can guys commit this early? There's still so much that can happen.  I don't think there's any commitments at all from 2016 class yet.  I know there's only a small few in 2015 that have committed.  How early did Portis commit when he picked the hogs?

[yraciv]

He's 2016, can guys commit this early? There's still so much that can happen.  I don't think there's any commitments at all from 2016 class yet.  I know there's only a small few in 2015 that have committed.  How early did Portis commit when he picked the hogs?

Of course you can commit this early. USC has taken football commitments from 8th graders before, but everyone takes it with a grain of salt.  Right now there is only 3 2016 top 50 players committed.

[hollywood hog]

Another buzzer beater from 3 to beat Fayetteville tonight.  Had 5 in the first half and 18 in the 2nd with a couple big dunks.  STUD!!!!

[TexHog188]

Dog Killa!

[Pigger12]

http://youtu.be/lXeB1Ik0TVY

[Fort Dweller]

That's not even fair.

[SONofHAM]

Wow this kid is special.  2 in a row?  So clutch!

[hollywood hog]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=s8uOIvwFvM4#t=9

here's another look in better quality

[hollywood hog]

Wow this kid is special.  2 in a row?  So clutch!

These weren't just clutch 3s. Clutch 3s with guys hanging all over him

[SONofHAM]

These weren't just clutch 3s. Clutch 3s with guys hanging all over him

And from such deep range, without an open look, and having to change his shot in air. 

[supersaint]

This guy is more clutch than the far left pedal on an old car.

[yraciv]

Maybe Bell has been too open, and this is what he needs. Unreal! If this kid was on the team now, he is taking the last shot no questions!

[hollywood hog]

Maybe Bell has been too open, and this is what he needs. Unreal! If this kid was on the team now, he is taking the last shot no questions!

Us fans need to do our part and fill up every gym he plays in as long as he's in Arkansas.  Which I don't think will be a problem at all from here out.  He's quickly becoming a legend.     

[SONofHAM]

I'd love to see a mashup of the two buzzer beaters

[hogman99]

He is pretty darn good. He is in the same class as Corliss!

[HogFanatic]

There are a number of kids who can hit shots like that in high school.
Hell, I remember converting a four point play once because someone told me to put one up in a dude's face.
I looked over at dude, said OK, and drained it as the guy fouled me.

Think I could have gotten away with that against an SEC opponent? Hell no.

The only reason I say this is that people are looking at high school highlights and thinking that will carry over into the collegiate game.
It won't. SEC defenders are twice as fast and twice as good. At the next level he better split that double team and go straight at the rim.

Great shot though. Clutch for sure.

[jkstock04]

Wow what a shot...highly contested and game on line!

[supersaint]

There are a number of kids who can hit shots like that in high school.
Hell, I remember converting a four point play once because someone told me to put one up in a dude's face.
I looked over at dude, said OK, and drained it as the guy fouled me.

Think I could have gotten away with that against an SEC opponent? Hell no.

The only reason I say this is that people are looking at high school highlights and thinking that will carry over into the collegiate game.
It won't. SEC defenders are twice as fast and twice as good. At the next level he better split that double team and go straight at the rim.

Great shot though. Clutch for sure.

You should coach him.

[yraciv]

There are a number of kids who can hit shots like that in high school.
Hell, I remember converting a four point play once because someone told me to put one up in a dude's face.
I looked over at dude, said OK, and drained it as the guy fouled me.

Think I could have gotten away with that against an SEC opponent? Hell no.

The only reason I say this is that people are looking at high school highlights and thinking that will carry over into the collegiate game.
It won't. SEC defenders are twice as fast and twice as good. At the next level he better split that double team and go straight at the rim.

Great shot though. Clutch for sure.

How many do hit buzzer 3s in back to back games? How many players drop 27 pts a game in the largest conference in the state. Noone is saying it will that be easy in college, but it is pretty evident he is an elite player who has a knack for the clutch shot.

[hvsupastar]

#1 on Bentonville looks pissed he didn't get the ball after his guy double teamed. Even after the game winner lol

[HogFanatic]

How many do hit buzzer 3s in back to back games? How many players drop 27 pts a game in the largest conference in the state. Noone is saying it will that be easy in college, but it is pretty evident he is an elite player who has a knack for the clutch shot.

As I said, it was a clutch shot for sure. No doubt.

But at the next level that won't work.
He should have split that double and attacked the rim.
He got lucky. There is no questioning that.

I mean I am sure he felt confident it was good, because all clutch players do, but it was an extremely low percentage shot.

As for the other guy who said I should coach him, I don't think I could show him much other than that BS shot wouldn't fly if I were guarding him.

[supersaint]

As I said, it was a clutch shot for sure. No doubt.

But at the next level that won't work.
He should have split that double and attacked the rim.
He got lucky. There is no questioning that.

I mean I am sure he felt confident it was good, because all clutch players do, but it was an extremely low percentage shot.

As for the other guy who said I should coach him, I don't think I could show him much other than that BS shot wouldn't fly if I were guarding him.

You should guard him and coach him at the same time, then.  That would make him the ultimate player.  Between your awesome D, and intense analysis, he's bound to develop. 

[hvsupastar]

If coach would've put me in the game in the 4th quarter, we would have won state

[HogFanatic]

You should guard him and coach him at the same time, then.  That would make him the ultimate player.  Between your awesome D, and intense analysis, he's bound to develop.

Believe what ya want, man. I have played against players good enough to know I can lock someone down 23' away from the basket at the buzzer.

[hollywood hog]

#1 on Bentonville looks pissed he didn't get the ball after his guy double teamed. Even after the game winner lol

I noticed that right away.  He was not happy at all.  If you saw the Springdale game you know Malik does not like sharing the ball with them.  But there isn't another scorer on the team.  If he didn't take half the shots they'd be losing games. 

[mckinneyhog5]

As I said, it was a clutch shot for sure. No doubt.

But at the next level that won't work.
He should have split that double and attacked the rim.
He got lucky. There is no questioning that.

I mean I am sure he felt confident it was good, because all clutch players do, but it was an extremely low percentage shot.

As for the other guy who said I should coach him, I don't think I could show him much other than that BS shot wouldn't fly if I were guarding him.

He's a sophomore playing against seniors.  How did LeBron fair against the NBA coming out of High School?  Is he LeBron?  No, but then again he's a sophomore.

[hollywood hog]

Believe what ya want, man. I have played against players good enough to know I can lock someone down 23' away from the basket at the buzzer.

7th highest ranked sophomore in the country.  You wouldn't have stopped him.  Where did you play your college ball btw?

[Fort Dweller]

7th highest ranked sophomore in the country.  You wouldn't have stopped him.  Where did you play your college ball btw?

According to Dudley, Ronnie Brewer had trouble checking him this summer.   

[supersaint]

Believe what ya want, man. I have played against players good enough to know I can lock someone down 23' away from the basket at the buzzer.

Which players are good enough to know that you can lock someone down 23' away from the basket at the buzzer?

[yraciv]

As I said, it was a clutch shot for sure. No doubt.

But at the next level that won't work.
He should have split that double and attacked the rim.
He got lucky. There is no questioning that.

I mean I am sure he felt confident it was good, because all clutch players do, but it was an extremely low percentage shot.

As for the other guy who said I should coach him, I don't think I could show him much other than that BS shot wouldn't fly if I were guarding him.

He also would have probably not seen a double at the top of the key, and had an open guard in the corner. Most SEC players would trust the open man in the corner to hit the 3 and dish it.  It's irrelevant, it's a high school game, and it went in. When you hit two low percentage shots in a row, when does it start becoming high percentage? Players always take lower percentage shots at the buzzer, check NBA clutch stats. Kind of the point when you are forced to get it off as time expires.

[SONofHAM]

You should guard him and coach him at the same time, then.  That would make him the ultimate player.  Between your awesome D, and intense analysis, he's bound to develop. 

made me laugh

[hollywood hog]

#1 on Bentonville looks pissed he didn't get the ball after his guy double teamed. Even after the game winner lol

I actually think #10 on the other side was more pissed.  His mom or the mother of #0 was screaming at Malik to stop shooting when I was at the Harber game. 

[HogFanatic]

He's a sophomore playing against seniors.  How did LeBron fair against the NBA coming out of High School?  Is he LeBron?  No, but then again he's a sophomore.

LeBron is a freak of nature. Haha
There is no contesting that sort of atheticism

Monk has the tools. My only point is a falling away 23' shot at the buzzer won't cut it at the next level. Likely not even at the JUCO level.

It was a great shot, but he dribbled side to side 28' from the basket with two dudes on him and then just threw up a damn shot.

That is NOT what you do in that situation. You split the double and if they don't foul you you go at the rim until you either have a better look or someone comes open as a big comes up to pick you up.

Again, kudos on the big shot, but that was NOT smart basketball.

I would say the same think if Michael Jordan had done it.

[hollywood hog]

According to Dudley, Ronnie Brewer had trouble checking him this summer.   

That's saying a lot.  Ronnie has those long ass Scottie Pippen like arms.  He's like a glove.

[yraciv]

I noticed that right away.  He was not happy at all.  If you saw the Springdale game you know Malik does not like sharing the ball with them.  But there isn't another scorer on the team.  If he didn't take half the shots they'd be losing games. 

#1 is Tyrik Dixon I believe. This was his team last year, and he is a pretty salty player. If Monk wasn't taking the shot you'd want him taking it.  I can see what that would be frustrating.

[mckinneyhog5]

As I said, it was a clutch shot for sure. No doubt.

But at the next level that won't work.
He should have split that double and attacked the rim.
He got lucky. There is no questioning that.

I mean I am sure he felt confident it was good, because all clutch players do, but it was an extremely low percentage shot.

As for the other guy who said I should coach him, I don't think I could show him much other than that BS shot wouldn't fly if I were guarding him.

The only thing you could have possibly done better then the guys guarding him would be blocking his shot. 

[OnTheHillHogFan]

According to Dudley, Ronnie Brewer had trouble checking him this summer.   

I hadn't heard him say that but I did hear him say that he was definitely the best athlete on the court of some pickup games that Brewer was apart of.

[hollywood hog]

LeBron is a freak of nature. Haha
There is no contesting that sort of atheticism

Monk has the tools. My only point is a falling away 23' shot at the buzzer won't cut it at the next level. Likely not even at the JUCO level.

It was a great shot, but he dribbled side to side 28' from the basket with two dudes on him and then just threw up a damn shot.  Malik doesn't have any shooters to dish it off to and he himself can throw a bb through a lifesaver. 

That is NOT what you do in that situation. You split the double and if they don't foul you you go at the rim until you either have a better look or someone comes open as a big comes up to pick you up.

Again, kudos on the big shot, but that was NOT smart basketball.

I would say the same think if Michael Jordan had done it.

As I recall Jordan did the same things many times.  But when he did run into a double like that he dished it off to Paxton, Armstrong, or Kerr depending on which year we talking. 

[supersaint]

I hadn't heard him say that but I did hear him say that he was definitely the best athlete on the court of some pickup games that Brewer was apart of.

He's not even the best athlete in this thread. 

[hollywood hog]

#1 is Tyrik Dixon I believe. This was his team last year, and he is a pretty salty player. If Monk wasn't taking the shot you'd want him taking it.  I can see what that would be frustrating.

He lit Harber up for 0 points.  And last year they had Nick Smith.  He was their star.

[HogFanatic]

The only thing you could have possibly done better then the guys guarding him would be blocking his shot.

Or stripped the ball.
Dude was lucky.

Not saying I WOULD have ripped him or stuffed him, but he wouldn't have hit the shot.
Nope.
Can't believe it.

That was extremely lucky and poorly played basketball.
Yes he made the shot. But good grief, I have seen players at all levels hit shots like that.
Multiple shots in a row even.

If someone is lighting you up, you better do something about it.
I would have been on that dude like white on rice. Even if his quickness made me want to pass out. Right in his face.

Don't believe me. I don't care.
Hell, any of us could settle it in the gym.

[supersaint]

Or stripped the ball.
Dude was lucky.

Not saying I WOULD have ripped him or stuffed him, but he wouldn't have hit the shot.
Nope.
Can't believe it.

That was extremely lucky and poorly played basketball.
Yes he made the shot. But good grief, I have seen players at all levels hit shots like that.
Multiple shots in a row even.

If someone is lighting you up, you better do something about it.
I would have been on that dude like white on rice. Even if his quickness made me want to pass out. Right in his face.

Don't believe me. I don't care.
Hell, any of us could settle it in the gym.

gross

[Fort Dweller]

I hadn't heard him say that but I did hear him say that he was definitely the best athlete on the court of some pickup games that Brewer was apart of.

^that's actually a more accurate statement.  Thanks.  Still high praise.

[HogFanatic]

gross

Cute

[hollywood hog]

Or stripped the ball.
Dude was lucky.

Not saying I WOULD have ripped him or stuffed him, but he wouldn't have hit the shot.
Nope.
Can't believe it.

That was extremely lucky and poorly played basketball.
Yes he made the shot. But good grief, I have seen players at all levels hit shots like that.
Multiple shots in a row even.

If someone is lighting you up, you better do something about it.
I would have been on that dude like white on rice. Even if his quickness made me want to pass out. Right in his face.

Don't believe me. I don't care.
Hell, any of us could settle it in the gym.

Kid would do whatever he wanted to do against you.  Not dissing you.  He's just that good.