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iharfor

There were more than that.  Ejection of Franklin against UGA, other bad calls when we played against florida, and against LSU.

 

HogKing111

Man, you got me all riled up again over that Florida game. I wish we played them this year. Hopefully we can meet in the SECCG and hang 40+ on them and give them their second straight SECCG loss.

code red

Out of all the bad calls vs. UF the worst call of the year was in the Ark/LSU.  When they gave the kid the boundry when he was clearly in the field of play with his knee down.  Bad refs, bad umps ...man its tough being a hog fan.
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NWAFellows

Quote from: iharfor on June 15, 2010, 06:53:41 pm
There were more than that.  Ejection of Franklin against UGA ...

The ejection of Franklin in the UGA game was legit. Painful and game-turning, yes, but it wasn't a missed or bad call. Watch the replay, it's his actions that cause the two flags.

The rest I agree with, particularly the LSU out-of-bounds call during their final drive. 

HamHands

This is why I will NEVER chant SEC at a game! Certainly not at the TAMU game.
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SoonerInSpringdale

Most of the fans will continue to be the SECs biotch and chant SEC after they got hosed and said "thank you, can I have another?"

welchog

Quote from: code red on June 16, 2010, 08:32:59 am
Out of all the bad calls vs. UF the worst call of the year was in the Ark/LSU.  When they gave the kid the boundry when he was clearly in the field of play with his knee down.  Bad refs, bad umps ...man its tough being a hog fan.

Yeah, when I saw the clock stop I thought, yep, screwed again.  Then they showed the replay and I saw how blatant it was.  Announcers did not even touch it.

I think it was on the LSU sideline so BP and the other coaches probably did not see it, but I bet they raised cain during the replay breaking down the game.

earshot

Quote from: SoonerInSpringdale on June 16, 2010, 10:58:32 am
Most of the fans will continue to be the SECs biotch and chant SEC after they got hosed and said "thank you, can I have another?"

Funny, How does Texas sac taste?

1highhog

Quote from: SoonerInSpringdale on June 16, 2010, 10:58:32 am
Most of the fans will continue to be the SECs biotch and chant SEC after they got hosed and said "thank you, can I have another?"

Easy for you to say that since that's what Oklahoma is to Texas huh.

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man that boils the blood!  gets me even more ready for football season.  i love the music to it also.  very fitting.  you sir, get a +1 from the losthawg.
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SoonerInSpringdale

Quote from: earshot on June 16, 2010, 11:01:58 am
Funny, How does Texas sac taste?

probably about like SEC and Gator sac.  At least OU doesn't get blatanly cheated out of conference games(nothing we can do about the game in Oregon).

You will continue to snuggle up and chant SEC with his weiner in your mouth though.  Enjoy!

Ex-Trumpet

I'll never understand why people chant "SEC."  Just ridiculous!

Be a fan of the Hogs!!  And whomever plays Texas, OU, Alabama, Florida, LSU, and Ole Miss.  If two of those teams play each other, hope that T Boone buys them out and neither team wins.
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June 16, 2010, 03:54:32 pm #15 Last Edit: June 16, 2010, 04:48:54 pm by PorkSoda
I don't understand people that don't like the SEC, what conference would you rather be in?  The SEC is the best conference and we should be proud to be apart of it.  it may not be perfect, but if you win the championship, then you have a legit shot of wining the NCG.  SEC is the only conference that plays real hard nosed football every game.  Every game is a step forward or a step back.  Every game both teams are going to lay it all out on the field, even if only to ruin the other teams chance to get to the SECCG.  the SEC is football, the rest pales in comparison.
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Quote from: Ex-Trumpet on June 16, 2010, 11:16:19 am
I'll never understand why people chant "SEC."  Just ridiculous!

Be a fan of the Hogs!!  And whomever plays Texas, OU, Alabama, Florida, LSU, and Ole Miss.  If two of those teams play each other, hope that T Boone buys them out and neither team wins.

i chant the SEC when playing against OOC.  don't know why exactly, it's just a pride thing i guess.  being part of the greatest conference and having the love/hate relationship with other schools is something no one else can match.  no one in MI roots for OSU when they are playing someone else.  those fans have love of the school (respectable) but our passion goes beyond that and is spilled into the conference that God himself spent 8 days creating.
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Quote from: SoonerInSpringdale on June 16, 2010, 11:07:12 am
probably about like SEC and Gator sac.  At least OU doesn't get blatanly cheated out of conference games(nothing we can do about the game in Oregon).

Yup, that was the Nebraska that got the run around with the clock on a Texas field goal this year.  I bet that the 3-way tie between 12-1 Tx Tech, UT, and OU a few years back going a different direction would have changed your attitude.

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Low: You Make the (Worst) Call

ESPN.com's Chris Low summarized the worst calls in text today.

QuoteArkansas' Malcolm Sheppard was penalized for a 15-yard personal foul for a hit 20 yards away from the ball. But replays showed that Florida offensive lineman Marcus Gilbert actually initiated the contact ...

In that same Arkansas-Florida game, Arkansas cornerback Ramon Broadway was called for pass interference in the end zone ...
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razobak

http://espn.go.com/blog/sec/post/_/id/11432/you-make-the-worst-call

QuoteSEC commissioner Mike Slive wasn't real interested a couple of weeks ago at the spring meetings in doing any backseat driving concerning the officiating last season in the league.

Obviously, it was a hot topic among the fans and hotly debated and something that will remain on the front burner heading into the 2010 season.

Nobody in the SEC office wants to go back down that road, but the reality is that there were far too many controversial (and missed) calls to suit anybody last season.

That said, here's your chance to weigh in on which one was the worst.

Let me know if I'm forgetting one:

    * LSU's Patrick Peterson appeared to intercept a pass on the sideline in the fourth quarter of the Alabama game, but the officials on the field ruled it wasn't an interception. It looked like he got one foot down and had possession of the ball after watching several replays. But the replay official in the booth sided with the officials on the field and ruled that there wasn't indisputable video evidence to overturn the call.

    * Georgia receiver Julio Jones was whistled for a 15-yard unsportsmanlike conduct penalty for excessive celebration after scoring a go-ahead touchdown against LSU in the final minute. The SEC came out that next week and said there was no video evidence of excessive celebration and that the flag should have never been thrown.

    * Arkansas' Malcolm Sheppard was penalized for a 15-yard personal foul for a hit 20 yards away from the ball. But replays showed that Florida offensive lineman Marcus Gilbert actually initiated the contact, and it was Sheppard who sent Gilbert to the ground. The SEC later said that no personal foul should have been called, and the crew -- the same one that worked the Georgia-LSU game -- was suspended for a week.

    * In that same Arkansas-Florida game, Arkansas cornerback Ramon Broadway was called for pass interference in the end zone on Florida receiver Deonte Thompson when both players were going for the ball and it was Broadway who actually had inside position.

    * Florida linebacker Dustin Doe held the ball out in celebration on the tail end of a 23-yard fumble return for a touchdown against Mississippi State, but it appeared that he might have been stripped of the ball before crossing the goal line. The play went to the replay official, who looked at it and didn't overturn the call. Mississippi State coach Dan Mullen said afterward that the replay official should be suspended and added, "I don't even know why we have replay right now in the Southeastern Conference if they're not going to utilize it."

    * Mississippi State quarterback Tyson Lee was penalized for throwing the ball after crossing the line of scrimmage on a fourth-down pass completion that took the Bulldogs inside the Houston 10-yard line in the third quarter. Replays showed that he was a yard behind the line when the ball left his hand, but the play wasn't reviewed by the replay official. The Bulldogs had to turn the ball over on downs and ended up losing 31-24.

    * In its 16-13 loss to Army in overtime, Vanderbilt had a go-ahead touchdown nullified with 1:01 to play in regulation when receiver Udom Umoh was called for offensive pass interference on a pick play. Replays showed that Umoh was actually pushed in the back by one Army defender into another Army defender, but the penalty was called on Umoh. The Commodores had to settle for a field goal and lost in overtime.

I have to say, if they whistled Julio Jones for celebration in a Georgia-LSU game, these officials really were clueless.
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Quote from: razobak on June 17, 2010, 09:11:13 am
http://espn.go.com/blog/sec/post/_/id/11432/you-make-the-worst-call

I have to say, if they whistled Julio Jones for celebration in a Georgia-LSU game, these officials really were clueless.

Especially if they whistled him as a Georgia player. 

I mean, I can understand celebrating in the stands on a big play when a divisional opponent is losing a game, but to actually put on a uniform to help an Eastern team win?  That's low, even for Alabama :)
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I have to say, if they whistled Julio Jones for celebration in a Georgia-LSU game, these officials really were clueless.
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That was my first thought reading through it, lol.  Low is generally pretty good when it comes to accuracy, so I will cut him some slack, but it was funny.

I am glad that he is drawing attention to this BEFORE the season starts.  If the SEC wants to remain as the preeminent league for college football there can't be a perception that the refs blatantly favor one team over another. 

When you get a call wrong, even after a review, the fan base will go nuts with conspiracy theory.  Whether the refs got their directives from the league office or not is irrelevant.  There were multiple situations last year where it was quite apparent that the wrong calls were made. 

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HamHands

The LSU player being called out of bounds when he was clearly inbounds thus stopping the clock in the Ark-LSU game.
Tim Tebow being given a first down when he was tackled 2 1/2 yards behind the first down marker in the Ark-FL game.
Two he missed.
One day at a time.

 

Beantown Razahback

Ruling LSU out of bounds on that play on the final drive of regulation when the guy was clearly two feet inbounds doesn't get enough play outside of Hog circles. If we got the benefit of that call AGAINST LSU, outrage would have rained down from the heavens.

I believe someone on here has the screenshot of that as their avatar or signature

EDIT: apparently HoginHeat and I were thinking the same thing at the same time

incHOGnito

That Florida game could have filled the entire article.  Apart from the other omissions already discussed, as I recall on the first drive of that game, Mallett got hit about 2 seconds after he released the ball, and no penalty was called against Florida.

Gus Of The Ozarks

Arkansas' Malcolm Sheppard was penalized for a 15-yard personal foul for a hit 20 yards away from the ball. But replays showed that Florida offensive lineman Marcus Gilbert actually initiated the contact, and it was Sheppard who sent Gilbert to the ground. The SEC later said that no personal foul should have been called, and the crew -- the same one that worked the Georgia-LSU game -- was suspended for a week.
In that same Arkansas-Florida game, Arkansas cornerback Ramon Broadway was called for pass interference in the end zone on Florida receiver Deonte Thompson when both players were going for the ball and it was Broadway who actually had inside position.
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Those were the worst two calls I had ever seen. I was listening to Cowherd last year after that game and he said "Florida did have a loss this year and it was to Arkansas".

Bacons Rebellion

He even left out the Cody celebration penalty.

Low was very gracious in listing the Vanderbilt and Mississippi State calls, in which no conference favorite was involved and no money was on the line. All the other bad calls were for the favored sons in the conference pecking order, bringing the integrity of the whole conference into question.

razobak

I disagree on the Cody issue.  He'd just blocked two FG attempts, one that would have won the game, and time had expired.  Yeah, I wish Tenn had beat Bama, but I wouldn't call the Cody issue a celebration penalty.

And besides, I despise the "celebration penalty" as a matter of principle.  Showboating, the game can do without.  Celebrating a momentous success...these are college kids we're talking about.  Let them celebrate.  [/tangent]
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HamHands

Quote from: incHOGnito on June 17, 2010, 10:17:23 am
That Florida game could have filled the entire article.  Apart from the other omissions already discussed, as I recall on the first drive of that game, Mallett got hit about 2 seconds after he released the ball, and no penalty was called against Florida.

That happened in several games. I KNOW if St.Tebow got hit sliding or 2 seconds late, the player would have been ejected!
One day at a time.

jbell96

Quote from: Gus Of The Ozarks on June 17, 2010, 10:23:14 am
Arkansas’ Malcolm Sheppard was penalized for a 15-yard personal foul for a hit 20 yards away from the ball. But replays showed that Florida offensive lineman Marcus Gilbert actually initiated the contact, and it was Sheppard who sent Gilbert to the ground. The SEC later said that no personal foul should have been called, and the crew -- the same one that worked the Georgia-LSU game -- was suspended for a week.
In that same Arkansas-Florida game, Arkansas cornerback Ramon Broadway was called for pass interference in the end zone on Florida receiver Deonte Thompson when both players were going for the ball and it was Broadway who actually had inside position.
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Those were the worst two calls I had ever seen. I was listening to Cowherd last year after that game and he said "Florida did have a loss this year and it was to Arkansas".

Another missed call in that game was Riley Cooper practically tackling one of our DB's to keep him from getting a pick and it not getting called.

bignoc

Quote from: jbell96 on June 17, 2010, 11:45:14 am
Another missed call in that game was Riley Cooper practically tackling one of our DB's to keep him from getting a pick and it not getting called.


Don't forget the Florida kicker kicking after the clock expired.

rljjr

Quote from: razobak on June 17, 2010, 10:50:50 am
I disagree on the Cody issue.  He'd just blocked two FG attempts, one that would have won the game, and time had expired.  Yeah, I wish Tenn had beat Bama, but I wouldn't call the Cody issue a celebration penalty.

And besides, I despise the "celebration penalty" as a matter of principle.  Showboating, the game can do without.  Celebrating a momentous success...these are college kids we're talking about.  Let them celebrate.  [/tangent]

By rule the ball was still live at that point and had not crossed the line of scrimmage, meaning the game was not over. Had one of the Tenn players picked it up they could have advanced the ball and scored.

Mo_Better_Hogs

Quote from: Beantown Razahback on June 17, 2010, 09:54:26 am
Ruling LSU out of bounds on that play on the final drive of regulation when the guy was clearly two feet inbounds doesn't get enough play outside of Hog circles. If we got the benefit of that call AGAINST LSU, outrage would have rained down from the heavens.

I believe someone on here has the screenshot of that as their avatar or signature

EDIT: apparently HoginHeat and I were thinking the same thing at the same time

Yes. Whoever has the photo for their avatar shows it clearly.

When that play happened, I didn't think it was as bad at the time...but wow, not even close.

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Quote from: Beantown Razahback on June 17, 2010, 09:54:26 am
Ruling LSU out of bounds on that play on the final drive of regulation when the guy was clearly two feet inbounds doesn't get enough play outside of Hog circles. If we got the benefit of that call AGAINST LSU, outrage would have rained down from the heavens.

I believe someone on here has the screenshot of that as their avatar or signature

EDIT: apparently HoginHeat and I were thinking the same thing at the same time
Your post is spot on. nobody talks about that play, but that was big. it never goes into overtime if the refs call it right. im sick of these sec refs.

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bignoc

Quote from: forrest city joe on June 17, 2010, 12:58:52 pm
Your post is spot on. nobody talks about that play, but that was big. it never goes into overtime if the refs call it right. im sick of these sec refs.

The reason why we did not make it as big of a deal as the Florida game, was because we played so bad it did not seem right to win that game, and we blew our chances. Looking back now we should have treated the same as Florida, because that did in fact cost us the game.

forrest city joe

Quote from: HogExpress on June 17, 2010, 01:18:04 pm
Pretty damning...
Yep! and they had no timeouts. the ref is standing right there looking at it. we cant have that anymore.

cityhog

Quote from: HoginHeat on June 17, 2010, 09:50:31 am
The LSU player being called out of bounds when he was clearly inbounds thus stopping the clock in the Ark-LSU game.
Tim Tebow being given a first down when he was tackled 2 1/2 yards behind the first down marker in the Ark-FL game.
Two he missed.

Thought the exact same thing.  Spots need to be challengable.

forrest city joe

June 17, 2010, 01:45:30 pm #41 Last Edit: June 18, 2010, 07:59:08 am by forrest city joe
Quote from: cityhog on June 17, 2010, 01:39:34 pm
Thought the exact same thing.  Spots need to be challengable.
Something is very wrong when it comes to arkansas and the sec refs.Bama had 3 offensive holding calls in the sec in an entire year. you have got to be kidding me!

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Quote from: HogExpress on June 17, 2010, 01:19:02 pm
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Quote from: Jack The BN on June 17, 2010, 12:54:52 pm
Súhlasím! Vyzýva k hre americkej SEC futbal boli veľmi zlé počas niekoľkých posledných rokov. Liga musí najať niekoľko nových úradníkov. Možno, že fanúšikovia sa zastaví a obvinili ich z bytia sprisahancov.
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Quote from: HoginHeat on June 17, 2010, 09:50:31 am
The LSU player being called out of bounds when he was clearly inbounds thus stopping the clock in the Ark-LSU game.
Tim Tebow being given a first down when he was tackled 2 1/2 yards behind the first down marker in the Ark-FL game.
Two he missed.

Yes, and yes!

Beantown Razahback

Quote from: forrest city joe on June 17, 2010, 01:45:30 pm
Bama had 3 offensive holding calls in the sec in an entire year. you have got to be kidding me!

Is that for real?? If it is, that is so unbelievably fraudulent it's amazing even by SEC officiating standards

forrest city joe

Quote from: Beantown Razahback on June 18, 2010, 08:57:53 am
Is that for real?? If it is, that is so unbelievably fraudulent it's amazing even by SEC officiating standards
Yes it is for real. when i found out about it, i was outraged. i have no love for the sec, or their refs. 3 holding call in an etire season. that is unreal.

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Quote from: Jack The BN on June 17, 2010, 12:54:52 pm
Súhlasím! Vyzýva k hre americkej SEC futbal boli ve?mi zlé po?as nieko?kých posledných rokov. Liga musí naja? nieko?ko nových úradníkov. Možno, že fanúšikovia sa zastaví a obvinili ich z bytia sprisahancov.
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Quote from: HogExpress on June 17, 2010, 01:19:02 pm
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Quit picking these old scabs... There is NO WAY that whoever this ref is here is not on  the TAKE!!! Who is this guy and why does he have a job while 20% of the US doesn't? I swear I will hook up a telemarketers auto-dialer on the SEC office and torture their phones system and spamming thousands of hate-calls if we have to deal with this again this year.
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