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Started by Waldron_Hog, February 20, 2018, 10:06:19 pm

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Waldron_Hog

We dont handle long teams well.  Same story against UNC.  That may be our downfall in the tourney.

TheEnemy

Quote from: Waldron_Hog on February 20, 2018, 10:06:19 pm
We dont handle long teams well.  Same story against UNC.  That may be our downfall in the tourney.

And by tourney....you mean NIT?

 

ChopSooie

It is because we don't have speed that will break down the other team. We have 2 scorers that can't break teams down, so athletic teams make us struggle.

BannerMountainMan

Quote from: TheEnemy on February 20, 2018, 10:06:54 pm
And by tourney....you mean NIT?
we win 7 of 9 and lose 1 and we are NIT bound
"Michael Qualls with the dunk at the buzzer, it goes and Arkansas wins, it goes and Arkansas wins"

TheEnemy

Quote from: BannerMountainMan on February 20, 2018, 10:08:47 pm
we win 7 of 9 and lose 1 and we are NIT bound

Could have sworn we played more than 10 games this year.

Breems

Layups and dunks. We had no answer when the 3s stopped falling.
Proud member of the "Left Before Halftime" football club.

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zebradynasty

Some how, some way we must get more length and more athleticism at the 4 and 5. When your short going against a taller team it wears you out rebounding because every jump must be all out even if you block out. We ran out of gas.

la20688

Quote from: BannerMountainMan on February 20, 2018, 10:08:47 pm
we win 7 of 9 and lose 1 and we are NIT bound
You know that's how this board works.

razorpimp

Quote from: zebradynasty on February 20, 2018, 10:18:46 pm
Some how, some way we must get more length and more athleticism at the 4 and 5. When your short going against a taller team it wears you out rebounding because every jump must be all out even if you block out. We ran out of gas.

Ran out of gas because we played uptempo without a bench...a blind person could see that.  Rebounding is and always will be want to....Rodman was 6'7", Barkley 6'6" maybe....you beat a taller team by packing it in, fundamental blocking out, and team rebounding

txkhog


deserthog

Quote from: tncbg on February 20, 2018, 10:35:32 pm
Once again we were the cure for a bad shooting team. Why not try a packed in zone? Why press a team full of better, faster, longer athletes? Mike has no regard for the other team's personnel. We just do the same stupid stuff over and over. We can win 20 games, but we cannot beat quality teams like UK and UNC. Our best chance against the upper tier teams is the FBI. At least we're safe in that respect. If they see Trey turn it over and waddle down the court they will know Mike is clean.
Post of the day.

3kgthog

Quote from: BannerMountainMan on February 20, 2018, 10:08:47 pm
we win 7 of 9 and lose 1 and we are NIT bound

Jerry Palm said we're a bubble team BEFORE the blowout Home loss to UK. Real Time RPI has us in a play-in game. ESPN had us as a 10 seed before the loss. None of those sound like NCAAT locks to me. Put down the Mike Kool-Aid.

There's a real possibility this team could be knocked out in the next three games.

Letsroll1200

Quote from: tncbg on February 20, 2018, 10:35:32 pm
Once again we were the cure for a bad shooting team. Why not try a packed in zone? Why press a team full of better, faster, longer athletes? Mike has no regard for the other team's personnel. We just do the same stupid stuff over and over. We can win 20 games, but we cannot beat quality teams like UK and UNC. Our best chance against the upper tier teams is the FBI. At least we're safe in that respect. If they see Trey turn it over and waddle down the court they will know Mike is clean.

Watch the game. They was getting what they wanted in the half court. They where so much bigger than the Hogs. Go back and watch the game.

 

ChicoHog

Quote from: tncbg on February 20, 2018, 10:35:32 pm
Once again we were the cure for a bad shooting team. Why not try a packed in zone? Why press a team full of better, faster, longer athletes? Mike has no regard for the other team's personnel. We just do the same stupid stuff over and over. We can win 20 games, but we cannot beat quality teams like UK and UNC. Our best chance against the upper tier teams is the FBI. At least we're safe in that respect. If they see Trey turn it over and waddle down the court they will know Mike is clean.
And that's the way it will always be with Anderson as coach.  Win some games, make fans excited, then always have meltdowns and no adjustments.  Losing to UK is not a disgrace but we need to win some big games to claim our spot if we want to make the tournament. 

razorpimp

Quote from: Letsroll1200 on February 21, 2018, 05:23:39 am
Watch the game. They was getting what they wanted in the half court. They where so much bigger than the Hogs. Go back and watch the game.

You were not watching the game obviously...the Hogs worthless press got the entire defense out of position.  There were very few true half court possessions....this loss is directly on CMA's completely flawed system

Letsroll1200

Quote from: tncbg on February 21, 2018, 06:31:29 am
You couldn't pay me to watch it again.  They got what they wanted against an undermanned man defense after getting a running start through a stupid press. When everybody is 6'9 they will get and exploit mismatches if they are patient, which they were. We needed to force them to beat us from the perimeter, but that would require doing something other than the only thing we do.

Another uninformed hogville Poster! Arkansas got transition baskets out the press and it was speeding Kentucky up. The issue with the press in the second half was Kentucky was patient and more deliberate on when to attack. Kentucky went to their bench and got better. Arkansas went to the bench and become UCA or UALR.

We had the chance to finish Kentucky in the first half but Mike trusted the bench too much. CJ Jones had open looks but did not make the plays. We have to make those shots to win big games. Those freshman let us down. The game changed when Arkansas went up 65-60. SGA of Kentucky was headed to call a time out, D. Hall stop playing because he could see Coach Cal getting ready to call a timeout. Kentucky got a easy bucket and never looked back.

Drop the Mike

My wife is always complaining about my length or lack thereof

The_Iceman

Quote from: tncbg on February 21, 2018, 06:31:29 am
You couldn't pay me to watch it again.  They got what they wanted against an undermanned man defense after getting a running start through a stupid press. When everybody is 6'9 they will get and exploit mismatches if they are patient, which they were. We needed to force them to beat us from the perimeter, but that would require doing something other than the only thing we do.

Spot on. I was at the game and got a great view of how John Calipari was picking apart Mediocre Mike's stupid defense. He knew our guards would guard tight all the way to half court, and that our big men will follow the screener all the way out there. So he would set that real high pick and roll, and our defense would be in shambles the rest of the play...usually resulting in a dunk, tip in, or open shot.

redleg

I've been saying for months now that Arkansas doesn't have enough length to go with their talent at guard and swingmen. Now it looks like Gafford might be leaving after just one season, which means that the Hogs will have ZERO players on the 2018-19 squad taller than 6'9". Even if Gafford should decide to come back, he'll be the only true post player on the team. Henderson is 6'9", but he's barely 200 lbs. Gabe O is 6'8" and 220, and Chaney is 6'8" and 230. THAT'S IT! Relying on grad transfers is stupid and poor planning.
Anderson will never take Arkansas to the next level if he can't do a better and more complete job of recruiting. I have seen some people say that you must take the best player available. That's true, but not if you have a need at another position. Teams like Kentucky have good guards, but also have length where it counts, and not just one or two guys.
The 1993 team, and the 1994 team are excellent examples of this. "93 (Richardson's Runts) had one player that was 6'9" (Dwight Stewart) and zero players taller than that. Even as good as Corliss was, he was still only 6'7". Fast forward to the 1994 season, and Richardson adds two centers that were both 6'11" to a team that already had good guards and swing players, and voila'! We all know how that turned out! I'm not saying Arkansas will win the national championship, but they won't ever get a shot if they don't have the right players and the right size at each position.
6'11" will out-rebound 6'8" a vast majority of the time.
If it ain't broke, fix it till it is.

Letsroll1200

Quote from: redleg on February 21, 2018, 08:41:29 am
I've been saying for months now that Arkansas doesn't have enough length to go with their talent at guard and swingmen. Now it looks like Gafford might be leaving after just one season, which means that the Hogs will have ZERO players on the 2018-19 squad taller than 6'9". Even if Gafford should decide to come back, he'll be the only true post player on the team. Henderson is 6'9", but he's barely 200 lbs. Gabe O is 6'8" and 220, and Chaney is 6'8" and 230. THAT'S IT! Relying on grad transfers is stupid and poor planning.
Anderson will never take Arkansas to the next level if he can't do a better and more complete job of recruiting. I have seen some people say that you must take the best player available. That's true, but not if you have a need at another position. Teams like Kentucky have good guards, but also have length where it counts, and not just one or two guys.
The 1993 team, and the 1994 team are excellent examples of this. "93 (Richardson's Runts) had one player that was 6'9" (Dwight Stewart) and zero players taller than that. Even as good as Corliss was, he was still only 6'7". Fast forward to the 1994 season, and Richardson adds two centers that were both 6'11" to a team that already had good guards and swing players, and voila'! We all know how that turned out! I'm not saying Arkansas will win the national championship, but they won't ever get a shot if they don't have the right players and the right size at each position.
6'11" will out-rebound 6'8" a vast majority of the time.

We need some quality size. Trey Thompson attempted to throw the ball in the paint to Gafford and Vanderbilt knocked it away. Vanderbilt was in the paint and Trey was at the 3 point line when he knocked the ball away but Vanderbilt beat Trey to the ball. Before Trey Thompson could bend down, Vanderbilt was on the other end of the court with the ball. Too many projects on this team and no true point guard.