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Talking head on SEC Now just said "Arkansas will probably NOT host". Why not?

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BroyledNutts

The talking heads have been discussing MSU hosting over the Hogs ever since the bracket guesses started. This loss gives them leverage, as I think we only finished a 1/2 game ahead in conference.

We'll probably take a hit in the RPI as well, and MSU will move up ... neutral site losses hurt the resume too ...

 

jry04

Quote from: BroyledNutts on May 25, 2017, 01:42:29 pm
The talking heads have been discussing MSU hosting over the Hogs ever since the bracket guesses started. This loss gives them leverage, as I think we only finished a 1/2 game ahead in conference.

We'll probably take a hit in the RPI as well, and MSU will move up ...
The only chance MSU has to host over us at this point is if they win 2 more games, and one being over us would be ideal. We are still 3-1 against them this season. Also, our RPI is going to be about 18 and theirs will probably be 26 or 27 after this result is figured into the formula. MSU isn't exactly in the hosting discussion at this point. The teams like Arizona, OU, maybe FSU, maybe WVU are teams we have to look out for more because they all have top 25 RPIs with big RPI opportunities in front of them.


Win this afternoon and we can rest easy. Lose, and we will be sweating out.

AUSTXHOG

ehhh, which turd sammich said it?  Walker?  Indiana just beat Meechigan.  Southern Miss aint gonna host despite their record.   

jry04

Quote from: AUSTXHOG on May 25, 2017, 01:48:41 pm
ehhh, which turd sammich said it?  Walker?  Indiana just beat Meechigan.  Southern Miss aint gonna host despite their record.   
Southern Miss isn't going to host? They absolutely are. USM is competing for a national seed.

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Quote from: AUSTXHOG on May 25, 2017, 01:48:41 pm
ehhh, which turd sammich said it?  Walker?  Indiana just beat Meechigan.  Southern Miss aint gonna host despite their record.   

Yeah Walker ...

AUSTXHOG

Quote from: jry04 on May 25, 2017, 01:49:22 pm
Southern Miss isn't going to host? They absolutely are. USM is competing for a national seed.
Sorry, meant be a national seed.  Ignore my ignorance.  lol

onebadrubi

Any chance you give committee's to spurn arkansas and you sweat.  Arkansas by winning that game would have taken those chances out of the committee's hands.  Now the door is open and we need to beat auburn and maybe whoever after that to slam that door shut and host.  We go 0-2 and I'm thinkning we get the shaft and off to a number 2 somewhere that doesn't favor us. 

jry04

Our RPI just dropped from 16 to 18. MSU jumped to 28 from 30. They have a lot of work left to do in order to threaten our host spot. A win today should bump us back around 16, setting up a likely rematch with Miss State tomorrow.

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Quote from: jry04 on May 25, 2017, 01:46:13 pm
The only chance MSU has to host over us at this point is if they win 2 more games, and one being over us would be ideal. We are still 3-1 against them this season. Also, our RPI is going to be about 18 and theirs will probably be 26 or 27 after this result is figured into the formula. MSU isn't exactly in the hosting discussion at this point. The teams like Arizona, OU, maybe FSU, maybe WVU are teams we have to look out for more because they all have top 25 RPIs with big RPI opportunities in front of them.


Win this afternoon and we can rest easy. Lose, and we will be sweating out.
Agree. It's though to host with a 26, 27 RPI, but it has been done.

CJ HOG

Quote from: jry04 on May 25, 2017, 01:49:22 pm
Southern Miss isn't going to host? They absolutely are. USM is competing for a national seed.
Don't see USM pulling a National seed, regional yes. Too many P5 schools with  better resumes available for the NS imo. USM won't get to face top tier competition in their tourney and they lost gm 1 already I think.

AUSTXHOG

Quote from: jry04 on May 25, 2017, 01:56:46 pm
Our RPI just dropped from 16 to 18. MSU jumped to 28 from 30. They have a lot of work left to do in order to threaten our host spot. A win today should bump us back around 16, setting up a likely rematch with Miss State tomorrow.
What site are you following jry?

CJ HOG

Quote from: AUSTXHOG on May 25, 2017, 02:01:36 pm
What site are you following jry?
Probably Warren Nolan as those numbers align. This late in the year there's not much discrepancy in the rpi's from site to site.

 

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So, does Ark try and win the next OR we trying to rest up for regionals?

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Quote from: riccoar on May 25, 2017, 02:07:21 pm
So, does Ark try and win the next OR we trying to rest up for regionals?

I think you always try to win the game. They might rest certain players, but team will compete.

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The SEC tourney really doesn't matter much. I'm telling you, we are going to host. We were penciled in before this tourney started and going 0-2 shouldn't change that.

onebadrubi

Quote from: riccoar on May 25, 2017, 02:07:21 pm
So, does Ark try and win the next OR we trying to rest up for regionals?

We need one win minimum in this tourney, in my opinion.

jry04

Quote from: sir-pigs-a-lot on May 25, 2017, 02:20:59 pm
The SEC tourney really doesn't matter much. I'm telling you, we are going to host. We were penciled in before this tourney started and going 0-2 shouldn't change that.
I hope you are right, but I would rather not find out. Weird stuff happens, and I am not sure we have the respect we deserve.

If I have my choice, we win tonight, throw Knight tomorrow in a rematch with State, and then I would be 100% ok with losing to UF in our 4th game just to avoid over throwing our arms and staying in Hoover too long.

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Quote from: sir-pigs-a-lot on May 25, 2017, 02:20:59 pm
The SEC tourney really doesn't matter much. I'm telling you, we are going to host. We were penciled in before this tourney started and going 0-2 shouldn't change that.

This.

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Quote from: jry04 on May 25, 2017, 02:23:22 pm
I hope you are right, but I would rather not find out. Weird stuff happens, and I am not sure we have the respect we deserve.

If I have my choice, we win tonight, throw Knight tomorrow in a rematch with State, and then I would be 100% ok with losing to UF in our 4th game just to avoid over throwing our arms and staying in Hoover too long.

Certainly. Any number of things could happen but winning 1 game in this tourney cements us hosting. I'll say it like this.....barring anything out of the ordinary happening elsewhere, we host no matter what happens against Auburn. Beating Auburn cements it.

 

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jry04

Quote from: sir-pigs-a-lot on May 25, 2017, 02:29:12 pm
Certainly. Any number of things could happen but winning 1 game in this tourney cements us hosting. I'll say it like this.....barring anything out of the ordinary happening elsewhere, we host no matter what happens against Auburn. Beating Auburn cements it.
I agree on beating Auburn.

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This tournament is stupid.  I say so every year, win or lose.  Everyone agrees it doesn't mater so why the heck have it?  It jusgt screws up teams trying to prepare for regionals.
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Quote from: Bogghawg on May 25, 2017, 03:51:50 pm
This tournament is stupid.  I say so every year, win or lose.  Everyone agrees it doesn't mater so why the heck have it?  It jusgt screws up teams trying to prepare for regionals.

Exactly like the basketball conference tournaments. Mainly for teams that are on the fringe of missing the NCAA tournament.

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Dwight_K_Shrute

As competitive as the SEC is the tourney really helps no teams except to say hey we won the SEC tourney.  Nice little money grab but IMO it means less than than conf basketball tourney and post seasons success going forward.  Everyone would be better off resting pitchers.

As far as the money part of it, I wonder if instead of the tourney the SEC just added an extra weekend to the schedule if it would mean more money for the teams in the long run.  Every other year you get an extra home series. 
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Quote from: Bogghawg on May 25, 2017, 01:38:58 pm
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Actually he said if Arkansas goes 2 and out they won't host. He said they need to win one game to host.

hog.goblin

One more in and we are a lock.  A loss to Auburn and I think we are playing with fire.  Not logically, but because it's the way it is.

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At this point, if MSU makes a run and wins the tournament, I think the SEC gets 5 hosts.
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