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How many people are still gonna hate Mike Anderson after another NCAA appearance

Started by Ben, February 25, 2017, 03:30:44 pm

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Ben

I know people are going to have doubts about him still, but who was the last coach who got us to the NCAA tournament twice under their belt?
Quote from: BearsBisonsBoars on January 18, 2016, 11:06:54 pm. The four team playoff is still opinion. Or do you really think MSU was really the fourth best team in CFB?
You miss the boat.  A four team playoff is a championship.  A championship produces... a champion. You seem to be looking for the "best" team.  The "best" doesn't exist. Best does not equal champion.  Best is a myth.
Opinion polls produce... opinions.

HiggiePiggy

Pretty sure many will be fine. Majority of the fans at least on here had the expectations of getting to the tournament.  So he would have made expectations. 
If a man speaks and no woman is around to hear him, is he still wrong?

 

hobhog

No one has lasted 6 years. And Hate is strong word. But depending on how this season finishes will help his cause a lot. I still don't think he will get us back to national prominence consistently, but think he is here thru next year at least. I'll be quiet as long as we dance as I and others have said all year.

BannerMountainMan

ALOT of people still hate him..but I think he's the man if he will switch up his defense because that's changing the WHOLE and not as many wide open shots..
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Brandon72

I don't think anybody "hates" Mike Anderson.   

Anderson reminds me too much of Houston Nutt right now, as it relates to doing just enough and winning just enough at the right time to keep his job.   We will see very soon if he is able to do what Nutt could never do, take it to the next level.  I sure hope he can and does!!! 

On a personal level, Anderson reminds me nothing of Nutt.  Nutt was/is a jerk and it appears Anderson is a very fine and decent man.   


Swineasaur

How many top recruits want to go to arkansas for school?? We can't even keep a guy who is 20 miles away. With the roster we have getting to the dance is a helluva achievement

realistichog

Quote from: Ben on February 25, 2017, 03:30:44 pm
I know people are going to have doubts about him still, but who was the last coach who got us to the NCAA tournament twice under their belt?
To answer your question, Stan Heath 2 times in 5 years. Weak argument dude.

HiggiePiggy

Quote from: realistichog on February 25, 2017, 04:03:30 pm
To answer your question, Stan Heath 2 times in 5 years. Weak argument dude.

Also had a team returning that probably would have gotten him in again.
If a man speaks and no woman is around to hear him, is he still wrong?

dsims2k3

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I am always ready for Hog Ball!

The football season has no bearing on my excitement for basketball season to begin. 

I know I'm in the minority, but I rank Hog basketball above Hog football every day of the week and twice on Sundays. Has a lot to do with the era in which I grew up, but for me personally there is just nothing better than watching the Hogs run up and down the court!
Woo Pig Sooiee!  Can't wait for the season to tip off.  I'm hoping for a much more competitive team this season.

ErieHog

About a third.  You'll hear them after our first loss next year, if you need to identify who they are.
No cause, ever, in the history of all mankind, has produced more cold-blooded tyrants, more slaughtered innocents, and more orphans than socialism with power. It surpassed, exponentially, all other systems of production in turning out the dead. The bodies are all around us. And here is the problem: No one talks about them. No one honors them. No one does penance for them. No one has committed suicide for having been an apologist for those who did this to them. No one pays for them. No one is hunted down to account for them. It is exactly what Solzhenitsyn foresaw in The Gulag Archipelago: "No, no one would have to answer. No one would be looked into." Until that happens, there is no "after socialism."

HawgnCorona

Quote from: HiggiePiggy on February 25, 2017, 03:50:08 pm
Pretty sure many will be fine. Majority of the fans at least on here had the expectations of getting to the tournament.  So he would have made expectations. 

Yeah but some were a bit wobbly in their expectations...
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"Live justly, love mercy and to walk humbly with the Most High."-- Micah 6:8

HawgnCorona

Quote from: ErieHog on February 25, 2017, 10:18:31 pm
About a third.  You'll hear them after our first loss next year, if you need to identify who they are.

Oh for sure...
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"Live justly, love mercy and to walk humbly with the Most High."-- Micah 6:8

pigture perfect

I don't hate Mike, but I am a critic. I am thankful for the kind of man he is, but I also don't like the way he has to be motivated before he starts coaching. I'll get off of him until next year though because I believe he is doing right now what we expected. He has put us back in the tourney. That was my line in the sand from the beginning of the year.

For the record, stupid threads like this, after a win should be started in V&R. We should be celebrating.
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FineAsSwine

I don't really care how many people hate Mike Anderson. Just glad not to have to hear it in every single thread as much lately.

Some will hate him no matter what and there is no changing that. No need to say it a million different ways.

azhog10

Quote from: pigture perfect on February 25, 2017, 10:31:16 pm
I don't hate Mike, but I am a critic. I am thankful for the kind of man he is, but I also don't like the way he has to be motivated before he starts coaching. I'll get off of him until next year though because I believe he is doing right now what we expected. He has put us back in the tourney. That was my line in the sand from the beginning of the year.

For the record, stupid threads like this, after a win should be started in V&R. We should be celebrating.
Flat out stupid to think he had to be motivated before he started coaching.

lynbug

Don't know if MA is making hot seat adjustments....or the team is just finally starting to gel.  I'm not going to try to figure it out.  I'm just enjoying the results.

FineAsSwine

Quote from: pigture perfect on February 25, 2017, 10:31:16 pm
I don't hate Mike, but I am a critic. I am thankful for the kind of man he is, but I also don't like the way he has to be motivated before he starts coaching. I'll get off of him until next year though because I believe he is doing right now what we expected. He has put us back in the tourney. That was my line in the sand from the beginning of the year.

For the record, stupid threads like this, after a win should be started in V&R. We should be celebrating.

But you seem to be okay with the stupid "fire his ass now" threads started at half time of games that we ended up coming back and winning though.

Hawg Red

Quote from: dsims2k3 on February 25, 2017, 05:26:46 pm
No wins though

Pelphrey won one with his players. Something tells me Heath could have gotten that win over an Indiana team without its coach that had mailed it in if Pelphrey could.

ErieHog

Quote from: lynbug on February 25, 2017, 10:34:02 pm
Don't know if MA is making hot seat adjustments....or the team is just finally starting to gel.  I'm not going to try to figure it out.  I'm just enjoying the results.

It would require him to have ever had a hot seat-- which he hasn't.  His seat has been stone cold all year long.
No cause, ever, in the history of all mankind, has produced more cold-blooded tyrants, more slaughtered innocents, and more orphans than socialism with power. It surpassed, exponentially, all other systems of production in turning out the dead. The bodies are all around us. And here is the problem: No one talks about them. No one honors them. No one does penance for them. No one has committed suicide for having been an apologist for those who did this to them. No one pays for them. No one is hunted down to account for them. It is exactly what Solzhenitsyn foresaw in The Gulag Archipelago: "No, no one would have to answer. No one would be looked into." Until that happens, there is no "after socialism."

HawgnCorona

Quote from: pigture perfect on February 25, 2017, 10:31:16 pm
I don't hate Mike, but I am a critic. I am thankful for the kind of man he is, but I also don't like the way he has to be motivated before he starts coaching. I'll get off of him until next year though because I believe he is doing right now what we expected. He has put us back in the tourney. That was my line in the sand from the beginning of the year.

For the record, stupid threads like this, after a win should be started in V&R. We should be celebrating.

I don't know PP. I think it's threads like this that troll people that want the man gone no matter what. Other that, yes, we should be celebrating...
Wisdom is the principal thing; therefore get wisdom: and with all your getting, get understanding." --   Proverbs 4:7

"Live justly, love mercy and to walk humbly with the Most High."-- Micah 6:8

pigture perfect

Quote from: ErieHog on February 25, 2017, 10:35:39 pm
It would require him to have ever had a hot seat-- which he hasn't.  His seat has been stone cold all year long.
I agree. I don't think his seat was hot this year and probably not next either, unless he missed the dance again. Then apathy would have been the deciding factor.
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Hawg Red

The posters that just don't want Mike here no matter what are known. Everyone else either supports him/won't criticize no matter what or has criteria for their support. He tested that criteria after losing to Missouri and Vanderbilt (minus Fisher-Davis). People just want the Hogs in the tournament again in Year 6.

FineAsSwine

Well, I guess the mob can put away the torches and pitchforks until next year.

HawgnCorona

Wisdom is the principal thing; therefore get wisdom: and with all your getting, get understanding." --   Proverbs 4:7

"Live justly, love mercy and to walk humbly with the Most High."-- Micah 6:8

 

The_Iceman

I'm not sure anyone "hates" Mike Anderson. Mike is one of the best men to ever coach at Arkansas. A true man of character and high integrity. He is a wonderful ambassador for our program and role model for our players.

The doubt from me and other was his ability to gameplan and manage a roster. He is proving he can lead lead this program.

onebadrubi

Quote from: Ben on February 25, 2017, 03:30:44 pm
I know people are going to have doubts about him still, but who was the last coach who got us to the NCAA tournament twice under their belt?

Would you be fine if Bielema was only in 2 bowls after 6 years?

KlubhouseKonnected

Quote from: Ben on February 25, 2017, 03:30:44 pm
I know people are going to have doubts about him still, but who was the last coach who got us to the NCAA tournament twice under their belt?

A lot of people will always hate Mike Anderson for things that he can't change.

Another big group (and most of the first group as well because what else can the do other than admit what they really feel) will say, "ok, but if we don't make it again next year, and at least win x number of games once we get there, he Should be fired." And will fall back on that tired arse rational of x tournament appearances (or eventually) wins v. y number of years as coach.
Which is simplistic to the point of being laughable.

Then there are the rest of us.
If Auburn is dirty so is Gus. You can't have it both ways. Deal with it.

ShadowHawg

Quote from: azhog10 on February 25, 2017, 10:33:40 pm
Flat out stupid to think he had to be motivated before he started coaching.

I know. These people who don't understand the results they are seeing now are the culmination of an entire season of coaching are absurd.

Macon told everyone after the SC game that the whole team had finally bought into what MA had been coaching them to do.

KlubhouseKonnected

Quote from: hobhog on February 25, 2017, 03:51:11 pm
No one has lasted 6 years. And Hate is strong word. But depending on how this season finishes will help his cause a lot. I still don't think he will get us back to national prominence consistently, but think he is here thru next year at least. I'll be quiet as long as we dance as I and others have said all year.

You mean until next year when you start beating the drum again?
If Auburn is dirty so is Gus. You can't have it both ways. Deal with it.

lynbug

Quote from: ErieHog on February 25, 2017, 10:35:39 pm
It would require him to have ever had a hot seat-- which he hasn't.  His seat has been stone cold all year long.
Maybe I should have said something about everyone, MA included, feeling pressure, or whatever.  It does seem coincidental that the team started to "gel" noticeably after two very embarrassing losses. But I really don't care what the catalyst was....I'm just loving every minute of it.  It's almost March and we're looking forward to the Big Dance.

PonderinHog

Looks like he's gonna get that twenty five year service pin after all! 

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KlubhouseKonnected

If Auburn is dirty so is Gus. You can't have it both ways. Deal with it.

onebadrubi

Quote from: KlubhouseKonnected on February 25, 2017, 11:05:42 pm
Hey apples, have you met oranges?

Well, not really.  But my real point was to call out Ben for another troll post to stir up people and get the pot going. It's his shtick around here.

KlubhouseKonnected

Quote from: onebadrubi on February 25, 2017, 11:08:58 pm
Well, not really.  But my real point was to call out Ben for another troll post to stir up people and get the pot going. It's his shtick around here.

Well I am certainly happy you are not the kind of dude that wants to advocate the side of equality in a debate over the difficulty of appearing in the NCAA basketball tournament and appearing in a NCAA football bowl game.


I will say again. You cannot troll by being positive about your current head coach. It's not possible.
If Auburn is dirty so is Gus. You can't have it both ways. Deal with it.

Nipsey Mussle

I strayed after the two game meltdown but I'm back. We officially hit rock bottom in that stretch but we have bounced back amazingly.

Sure, there are some who post here that are sad we're winning b/c it means MA won't be fired this postseason or likely next. And sure, there would be 1000000 more posts right now had we lost, but I'm just happy to be winning and playing really solid basketball.

Augustus

Quote from: onebadrubi on February 25, 2017, 10:52:44 pm
Would you be fine if Bielema was only in 2 bowls after 6 years?

Sorry, but that is nowhere near a reasonable comparison. Completely apples & oranges. 
- FB teams get into bowl games with losing records. We saw South Carolina get passed over for the NCAA Tourney with 24 wins under their belt (67% winning percentage)
- There are 128(?) Div-I CFB teams, of which 80 are selected to play in bowl games. That's nearly 63% of CFB teams that will be playing in bowl games.

- Conversely, there's 351(?) Div-I CBB teams, of which 68 are selected to play in the NCAA Tourney.  That's 19% of available teams that will be picked to play in the Tourney.

Now, of course... the answer to your question would be:  No, it would never be ok for the Hogs FB coach to take us to only 2 bowl games in 6 years.

But, that in no way translates to CBB NCAA Tourney appearances.


Birminghog


ricepig

Quote from: onebadrubi on February 25, 2017, 10:52:44 pm
Would you be fine if Bielema was only in 2 bowls after 6 years?

Uh.....Ben doesn't ever give his answer to his questions, his job is just to ask the stupid questions.

FineAsSwine

Quote from: sevenof400 on February 26, 2017, 09:01:24 am
If after this season, Mike Anderson's only NCAA win is a 3 point victory over Wofford, it is time to move on.

I knew the goalposts were going to be moved now that the tourney seems certain. Now, if we win a game, it will be "sweet 16 or he gone".

ricepig

Quote from: FineAsSwine on February 26, 2017, 09:30:59 am
I knew the goalposts were going to be moved now that the tourney seems certain. Now, if we win a game, it will be "sweet 16 or he gone".

Well some will want him fired, even with a Final 4, I do think we should make the tournament every year, and make it past the first round, most years.

The OTR

Quote from: ricepig on February 26, 2017, 09:51:39 am
Well some will want him fired, even with a Final 4, I do think we should make the tournament every year, and make it past the first round, most years.

your expectations are way off base

HiggiePiggy

Quote from: Pillowhead Jackson on February 26, 2017, 05:59:52 pm
your expectations are way off base

Not really.  It's what we saw every year almost for the time the Sutton and Richardson was here. Arkansas used to be a power house type team in those years.  Now we are lucky to be in the dance. It is pretty sad what has become of the Razorbacks.  I and many are hoping that it is on its way back.
If a man speaks and no woman is around to hear him, is he still wrong?

ricepig


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onebadrubi

Quote from: Augustus on February 25, 2017, 11:17:43 pm
Sorry, but that is nowhere near a reasonable comparison. Completely apples & oranges. 
- FB teams get into bowl games with losing records. We saw South Carolina get passed over for the NCAA Tourney with 24 wins under their belt (67% winning percentage)
- There are 128(?) Div-I CFB teams, of which 80 are selected to play in bowl games. That's nearly 63% of CFB teams that will be playing in bowl games.

- Conversely, there's 351(?) Div-I CBB teams, of which 68 are selected to play in the NCAA Tourney.  That's 19% of available teams that will be picked to play in the Tourney.

Now, of course... the answer to your question would be:  No, it would never be ok for the Hogs FB coach to take us to only 2 bowl games in 6 years.

But, that in no way translates to CBB NCAA Tourney appearances.

I don't lower my expectations because of the amount of capabilities.  Would you take home a two ton tessy just because you went to bottoms up? 

Failure to reach a bowl game at Arkansas means a coach should move on. Failure to not make the NCAAT on a continual basis, means a coach should move on.  2 out of 6 isn't a success to me or deserving of an extension and raise.  Saying he's 2/3 is just manipulating numbers to fit your agenda. 

Kevin

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FineAsSwine

Quote from: ricepig on February 26, 2017, 09:51:39 am
Well some will want him fired, even with a Final 4, I do think we should make the tournament every year, and make it past the first round, most years.

Great point and like you, I think we should make the tournament (almost) every year.

ricepig


pigture perfect

Quote from: FineAsSwine on February 25, 2017, 10:35:04 pm
But you seem to be okay with the stupid "fire his ass now" threads started at half time of games that we ended up coming back and winning though.
You made this assumption, How? I'm wanting us making the dance more than 1 out of 3 years and not getting embarrassing performances against inferior teams. I don't like the fire Mike threads after every loss.  That's all I'm saying
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Jackrabbit Hog

I think instead of multi-year contracts, college basketball coaches should be hired on the basis of half-to-half contracts.  This would serve to satisfy the majority of internet message board posters throughout the nation.  Think about it.  You have a "green room" stocked with 3-4 coaches.  You sign one to coach the first half of a game.  At halftime the AD does his review of where the program is heading.  The first half coach is either offered a contract to coach the second half or he is kicked out the door and one of the others in the green room is called in, interviewed (very quickly, obviously), and then signed.  Heck, you could even pass out ballots to the fans in attendance at the game - sorry, you have to be present to vote - and they can have a say in whether the first half coach stays or goes.  It could be a thumbs up or thumbs down, a la Gladiator. 

This would serve so many purposes.  It would get out-of-work coaches off the streets and the welfare rolls because we'd need 3-4 times as many coaches to wait in the wings.  We could even let those that don't get hired during a game have a food stipend, or eat from the post-game buffet.  It would also be the ultimate motivation for a coach to do whatever it takes to prevent those ten minute scoring droughts. 

I think I'm on to something...
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