Good article about Connor Vanover

[daprospecta]

An offer that is non-committable.

What does this mean exactly?

[ShadowHawg]

What does this mean exactly?

It means that he can have a scholarship only if he is both willing to wait and if certain other things also fall in line.

[ShadowHawg]

I didn't say Mike abandoned his style of play, he's pretty well abandoned that moniker though. Mike has adjusted his style to where it's now a mixture of the full court speed game and the more deliberate technical half court game, that's why his team is currently having a successful season. It's no longer the full out "fastest 40 minutes in basketball" any more. That style of play is gone and isn't coming back.

You're wrong about Conner.

I am right about Vanover.

You are wrong about Conner. Do you really know this kid on a first name basis. Is that why you refer to him on a first name basis or is there something unhealthy going on?

Also, I suggest you tell all the broadcast teams about MA not coaching the fastest 40 style anymore. They keep referring to it when calling our games.

[GuvHog]

I am right about Vanover.

You are wrong about Conner. Do you really know this kid on a first name basis. Is that why you refer to him on a first name basis or is there something unhealthy going on?

Also, I suggest you tell all the broadcast teams about MA not coaching the fastest 40 style anymore. They keep referring to it when calling our games.

No, I don't know Connor personally but I have seen him play and I'm right about him.

The broadcast teams occasionally still mention it but the Hogs haven't played that style for sometime now. The style they're running now is a more technical half court style mixed with the full court fast break style when they get the chance to do it but they most certainly don't run for 40 minutes any more.

[Hawg Red]

Vanover is a good player. He some good skills for a 7'3 player. However, he has a horrible body for modern basketball. He's gone from a top 25 prospect inside of 2 years ago to now around the top 200 and a 3-star player. He's made a ton of visits to Kansas but has no offer. I'd imagine his offers from the other high-majors in the region are conditional like the Arkansas offer. This kid could end up in the mid-majors if he wants to sign early. He's a kid that I really think needs to be redshirted. I know some around here hate the thought of that and think it's not feasible anymore, but he'll truly need it.

If he ends up a Hog, great. Love seeing Arkansas kids in the program. But there recruits we're on that fit better and will likely translate easier. It's just hard for me to imagine Vanover being much more than a spot-minute player for ANY high-major program, not just Arkansas. You don't sign players like that in the early period. Those are players you just end up with when you have an unforeseen departure in the late period (think Dee Wagner, Dobbie Jenkins, Brachen Hazen, etc.). Every player has potential. Not every player should be a target. Vanover is likely not a target for anyone in a high-major conference. He's a "we'll take a flier if we miss on about 10 players" kind of recruit.

[GuvHog]

Vanover is a good player. He some good skills for a 7'3 player. However, he has a horrible body for modern basketball. He's gone from a top 25 prospect inside of 2 years ago to now around the top 200 and a 3-star player. He's made a ton of visits to Kansas but has no offer. I'd imagine his offers from the other high-majors in the region are conditional like the Arkansas offer. This kid could end up in the mid-majors if he wants to sign early. He's a kid that I really think needs to be redshirted. I know some around here hate the thought of that and think it's not feasible anymore, but he'll truly need it.

If he ends up a Hog, great. Love seeing Arkansas kids in the program. But there recruits we're on that fit better and will likely translate easier. It's just hard for me to imagine Vanover being much more than a spot-minute player for ANY high-major program, not just Arkansas. You don't sign players like that in the early period. Those are players you just end up with when you have an unforeseen departure in the late period (think Dee Wagner, Dobbie Jenkins, Brachen Hazen, etc.). Every player has potential. Not every player should be a target. Vanover is likely not a target for anyone in a high-major conference. He's a "we'll take a flier if we miss on about 10 players" kind of recruit.

ESPN has him listed as a 4 star player.

[OnTheHillHogFan]

ESPN has him listed as a 4 star player.

Good for them.

[Hawg Red]

ESPN has him listed as a 4 star player.

That's what is called an "outlier." 247 Sports, Rivals, and Scout all have him listed as 3-star recruit.

[hogwood]

Haven't looked on here in a while... Why is this thread at the top?... And why is this even a thread?

[zebradynasty]

An offer that is non-committable.

UA shouldn't try a get cute with this. As of today I don't see this kid playing in the SEC or in a P-5 conference. There are so many "ifs" that I would just wait and see how much he develops in his senior year. Meanwhile if another school gets him to commit...we should wish him well. I don't see him being a player that if goes to say Ole Miss or something that in a few years everyone will be complaining how we missed on him. Right now it's hard to envision him being an impact player for our competition like a Monk or Allen. UA should wait before we extend an offer and let this kid entertain any good offers he may get.

[PintailKiller]

Kid is a Jr.  Lets see how he progresses over the summer and see how his body develops.  He is more athletic than anyone else in his family.  Is he Gafford? No.  He played for Team USA, so he must be pretty good.  I don't care one way or the other if he plays for the Hogs, but I think he will be successful in college.

[sage_dragoon]

Could he be a Luke Kornet type player? I'd take that.

[zebradynasty]

The hogs need more height inside but it needs to be a player that can demand respect in the paint. Not sure this kid is or will be that type of player. Now if he looked like a Kornet type player...hurry up and sign him! I think rating him as 4* at this point might be stretch.

[PonderinHog]

Just not sure about him in a Hog uniform.

[GuvHog]

Doesn't move around near as well and isn't as physical. He can shoot it a bit, but not as well as Kornet. Hard pass on him for me.

Kornet is likely to be drafted by an NBA team so of course Conner, who is only a Junior in high school, is not as good as him. As it stands now, Gafford is the only big man Mike will have on the team for the 2018-2019 season so it would be a smart move to have Connor coming off of the bench occasionally to spell Him, which will give Connor time to develop too. It's very rare thing to find a Four star 7'4" player who shoots the 3 pointer as well as Connor does. He would be a force on defense blocking shots.

[ShadowHawg]

What part of Vanover can't run the floor or play with his back to the basket are you people not getting?

Can you imagine what he he would be like if he switched on.a guard at the top of the key? It would be disaster.

The kid is a novelty.

[ShadowHawg]

Just not sure about him in a Hog uniform.

Bradley was way more mobile than Vanover.

[GuvHog]

What part of Vanover can't run the floor or play with his back to the basket are you people not getting?

Can you imagine what he he would be like if he switched on.a guard at the top of the key? It would be disaster.

The kid is a novelty.

The switching was a problem this year for Moses and as a result, Mike smartly altered his defense so Moses stayed in the lane 90% of the time and didn't get caught having to go one on one with a guard. He would do the same with Connor. You "40 minutes of Hades" guys need to let that go. That type of basketball is gone to never return.

[ShadowHawg]

The switching was a problem this year for Moses and as a result, Mike smartly altered his defense so Moses stayed in the lane 90% of the time and didn't get caught having to go one on one with a guard. He would do the same with Connor. You "40 minutes of Hades" guys need to let that go. That type of basketball is gone to never return.

No he didn't. We played a switching man 90% of the time. I am beginning to think you are a troll. No one can be so clueless by.accident.

[GuvHog]

No he didn't. We played a switching man 90% of the time. I am beginning to think you are a troll. No one can be so clueless by.accident.

I'm not a troll and I'm not clueless. Early in the season Moses did switch to where he was on a guard a lot and that hurt the hogs so later in the season, Mike altered his defense to keep Moses in the lane most of the time. The other 4 players on the floor still switched a lot but Moses didn't switch very often later in the season.

[OnTheHillHogFan]

Kornet is likely to be drafted by an NBA team so of course Conner, who is only a Junior in high school, is not as good as him. As it stands now, Gafford is the only big man Mike will have on the team for the 2018-2019 season so it would be a smart move to have Connor coming off of the bench occasionally to spell Him, which will give Connor time to develop too. It's very rare thing to find a Four star 7'4" player who shoots the 3 pointer as well as Connor does. He would be a force on defense blocking shots.

Reggie Perry isn't a big?

[GuvHog]

Reggie Perry isn't a big?

I believe he's a 4 spot player and we need another 5 spot player.

[Porked Tongue]

Anyone heard a recent rumor on him?  Leaving Prep?

[Rocket23]

His high school coach is rumored to be in running for Bentonville HS job.  Could he be going with him?

[HognitiveDissonance]

His high school coach is rumored to be in running for Bentonville HS job.  Could he be going with him?

I'm starting the rumor now...Vanover to Bentonville to Kentucky!

[Big Nasty 34]

His high school coach is rumored to be in running for Bentonville HS job.  Could he be going with him?

Don't think he got it, so Vanover probably stays.

[Porked Tongue]

That was the rumor I heard.  But it seems that the Prep coach didn't get the job there and that kills it.

[The_Iceman]

Reggie Perry isn't a big?

Versatile Power Forward that can do anything. He kind of has a Joe Johnson smoothness about him, but with a PFs game.

[AlmaHog2011]

What part of Vanover can't run the floor or play with his back to the basket are you people not getting?

Can you imagine what he he would be like if he switched on.a guard at the top of the key? It would be disaster.

The kid is a novelty.

Dude you need to get off the kid. Your hatred is unreal the way you talk about this young man shouldn't be allowed on here. You aren't the only one but your persistent.

[ShadowHawg]

Dude you need to get off the kid. Your hatred is unreal the way you talk about this young man shouldn't be allowed on here. You aren't the only one but your persistent.

Most people are smart enough to distinguish between discussion of a skill set and hatred. But I wouldn't expect an Alma Airhead to fathom the complexities of such a discussion.