Best Southern College Towns bracket

[Razorback Homer]

Just happened across this poll and did not see it mentioned anywhere on the board. Fayetteville is currently trailing College Station in this round, so I thought that good ol' Hogville would want to give the Aggies a beat down in this poll.

http://gardenandgun.com/article/best-southern-college-towns-bracket

[hogcard1964]

Start voting!  We're down but it's tightening up.

[Vantage 8 dude]

Just happened across this poll and did not see it mentioned anywhere on the board. Fayetteville is currently trailing College Station in this round, so I thought that good ol' Hogville would want to give the Aggies a beat down in this poll.

http://gardenandgun.com/article/best-southern-college-towns-bracket

Well if you can why not check out the post from yesterday posted in Dickson Street Tavern concerning a recent article by Business Insider that identified the top 24 places to live in the U.S.. All spots happen to be in the south, if you want to include Washington D.C. in that geographic area, and two of the spots in the top dozen happen to be #14 Little Rock and #2 Fayetteville. While there are four Texas locales-San Antonio, Dallas-Fort Worth, Houston and #1 Austin- not surprisingly College Station isn't even considered (wonder why). What a hole!!!!

[sowmonella]

College Station=

[Snoutmaster]

We're down 57%-43% bleckkkk

[Razorbackers]

I'm surprised people in College Station can lie to themselves this hard haha

[10thPlanet]

I am needing a win!

[AirWarren]

Nothing really "southern" about Fayetteville. But best of luck regardless.

[bphi11ips]

Nothing really "southern" about Fayetteville. But best of luck regardless.

Fayetteville has a Midwest side to it, but it is basically southern.

[Vantage 8 dude]

Nothing really "southern" about Fayetteville. But best of luck regardless.

Well in the case of the Business Insider article to which I alluded, neither are Tulsa, Okie City or Louisville, KY IMO but there you have it...........Besides, as we've seen over the past several months this is NOT the only study/rating that has listed Fayetteville amongst the top spots in the country, southern or otherwise.   

[BadHog]

We are losing to College Station???

[Ramboar]

Voted till it banned me, percentage never changed..RIGGED!!!

[sowmonella]

52%-48%. Still down a bit. :razorback:

[GolfnHog]

Voted but Fayetteville still down 49.6% to 50.9%.

[Inhogswetrust]

Nothing really "southern" about Fayetteville. But best of luck regardless.

Same could be said for College Station and several other cities in the running. What does make a "college" town southern in your mind? I've been to almost all of them in my business and leisure travels. I promise you Clemson is more of a college town that Charlston. As a matter of fact it is more of a college town than several of the ones still in it.

[geauxhawgs]

Nothing really "southern" about Fayetteville. But best of luck regardless.

And.........Another very confused soul as to where Arkansas is geographically.

[sowmonella]

51% AM 49% Hogs. :razorback:

[AirWarren]

And.........Another very confused soul as to where Arkansas is geographically.

Confused. No. Fayetteville Arkansas is more of a Wichita Kansas type place than a "southern" place.

[geauxhawgs]

Confused. No. Fayetteville Arkansas is more of a Wichita Kansas type place than a "southern" place.

WOW

[uncle bubs]

The Boston Mountains have always been geographically isolated from the rest of the state. It's uniquely southern, Midwestern influenced by its close proximity to Missouri, and has southern mountain culture. Fayetteville is different and awesome. Unfortunately due to economic and corporate growth, you're gonna have a lot of transplants who can change the culture over time. It is what it is. So yes, Fayetteville is obviously a southern town due to it's place on the map, but it's a different kind of southern.

Let's look at Nashville, TN. I've lived here for almost 5 years. Nashville proper is a cultural melting pot. You'll meet the most southern dudes ever, then it'll feel like all you see are Midwesterners or folks from the west coast for a time. Get out of Nashville proper and it feels more like Tennessee to an extent. That's how I see Fayetteville on a much smaller scale. But hang out in Huntsville or West Fork and it's a whole other ball game.

[uncle bubs]

Also, I've spent a lot of time in the Midwest as a touring musician and, for what it's worth, Fayetteville would be lying if it claimed to be Midwestern. It's not too far off from some sort of a Midwestern culture, but it certainly ain't there. It's kind of in a league of its own in my opinion.

[LZH]

Down here, when I mention that my daughter goes to the U of A most everyone says "Alabama?". Or when we are talking about the weather and it's 75 degrees down here and I say "well it's 45 in Fayetteville", they say "North Carolina?".

[Cinco de Hogo]

We are mid-southern!

Well if you can be Mid-western why not?

There is no place in Texass that considers itself southern, they all think western, but they are southwestern.

You should be at least west of the Mississippi River to be considered western but that's not the case. 

Would we be south of the Mason Dixon Line if it extended through Arkansas?  The answer is yes we would.

[rljjr]

Confused. No. Fayetteville Arkansas is more of a Wichita Kansas type place than a "southern" place.

Have you ever lived outside the South? Just curious.

[Inhogswetrust]

Confused. No. Fayetteville Arkansas is more of a Wichita Kansas type place than a "southern" place.

Obviously you don't know a thing about geography either physical or human.

[Steef]

Down here, when I mention that my daughter goes to the U of A most everyone says "Alabama?". Or when we are talking about the weather and it's 75 degrees down here and I say "well it's 45 in Fayetteville", they say "North Carolina?".

You should try living in No Car. (I do). Fayetteville, NC is a military town. If I mention the word, I get "oh, is your (son, grandson) in the military?"

And "hogs" are for slow cooking, whole. (which, btw...is amazingly delicious...but then I get teased about eating my own)

[Inhogswetrust]

The Boston Mountains have always been geographically isolated from the rest of the state. It's uniquely southern, Midwestern influenced by its close proximity to Missouri, and has southern mountain culture. Fayetteville is different and awesome. Unfortunately due to economic and corporate growth, you're gonna have a lot of transplants who can change the culture over time. It is what it is. So yes, Fayetteville is obviously a southern town due to it's place on the map, but it's a different kind of southern.

Let's look at Nashville, TN. I've lived here for almost 5 years. Nashville proper is a cultural melting pot. You'll meet the most southern dudes ever, then it'll feel like all you see are Midwesterners or folks from the west coast for a time. Get out of Nashville proper and it feels more like Tennessee to an extent. That's how I see Fayetteville on a much smaller scale. But hang out in Huntsville or West Fork and it's a whole other ball game.

There is some truth in that post. As far as Nashville and Fayetteville being "similar" the same could be said of other cities in the south but located in hills or close to other states borders that border the "old south". Being southern does not exclusively belong to the old plantation row crop farming south areas. Some if not most cultural differences today, and it has been for a while, are between city versus rural instead of geographic location. That was a point made even by professors I had at both UCA and the UA even way back into the late 70's and early 80's. Four classes in particular touched on it: Human Geography, Physical Geography, History and Consumer Behavior. 

[Inhogswetrust]

Down here, when I mention that my daughter goes to the U of A most everyone says "Alabama?". Or when we are talking about the weather and it's 75 degrees down here and I say "well it's 45 in Fayetteville", they say "North Carolina?".

I've worked in Fayetteville, NC. It is an arm pit! Sorry Steef. I wouldn't want to live there long-term unless it's changed in the last eighteen years.

[Steef]

I've worked in Fayetteville, NC. It is an arm pit! Sorry Steef. I wouldn't want to live there long-term unless it's changed in the last eighteen years.

I don't live in Fayetteville. I live in the foothills of the Blue Ridge Mtns. It's gorgeous here.

Fayetteville IS an armpit. Cheap bars and pawn shops.

[Cinco de Hogo]

Have you ever lived outside the South? Just curious.

You do know that it's just a matter of how far south or how far north you want to go?

For instance we are more similar to Wichita than we are to Charlston, SC.

[sowmonella]

Last day to vote.

[Cinco de Hogo]

If you had rather go to college station than Fayetteville to watch a team play there is something seriously wrong with you. JMO

[Pulled(PP)pork]

I don't live in Fayetteville. I live in the foothills of the Blue Ridge Mtns. It's gorgeous here.

Fayetteville IS an armpit. Cheap bars and pawn shops.

what the hell is wrong with cheap bars??


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[DeltaBoy]

Voted we are behind.

[bob slydell]

Nothing really "southern" about Fayetteville. But best of luck regardless.

Much more southern than Annapolis, MD.

[Tejano Jawg]

I'm surprised people in College Station can lie to themselves this hard haha

College Station?? Have these voters ever been to Fayetteville and/or College Station?? Who's next in the bracket...Starkville??

[ricepig]

Down here, when I mention that my daughter goes to the U of A most everyone says "Alabama?". Or when we are talking about the weather and it's 75 degrees down here and I say "well it's 45 in Fayetteville", they say "North Carolina?".

You can't fix stupid.

[ricepig]

I don't live in Fayetteville. I live in the foothills of the Blue Ridge Mtns. It's gorgeous here.

Fayetteville IS an armpit. Cheap bars and pawn shops.

We're talking about Fayetteville, Arkansas, not Fayetteville, N.C.

[Steef]

We're talking about Fayetteville, Arkansas, not Fayetteville, N.C.

Down here, when I mention that my daughter goes to the U of A most everyone says "Alabama?". Or when we are talking about the weather and it's 75 degrees down here and I say "well it's 45 in Fayetteville", they say "North Carolina?".

An innocent derailment that i followed up on.

But thanks for keeping me straight.

[DLUXHOG]

delete/clear your cookies and you can vote more than once a day........

[Razorback Homer]

Not sure if the Aggies have a script running or not, but the trend of Fayetteville closing the gap on College Station has changed and College Station's lead is starting to increase.

[DLUXHOG]

Not sure if the Aggies have a script running or not, but the trend of Fayetteville closing the gap on College Station has changed and College Station's lead is starting to increase.

I'm betting they have a script running............

[farhog]

We losin 52%-48%

[DLUXHOG]

I'll bet they have a script running.... I voted something like 15 times and saw the percentage slide to 51.85 - 48.15%... only to log on a few seconds later and see that it went back to 52%-48%.......    Have any of you been to College Station?   I have, several times and I think it is a sh*thole compared to Fayetteville and NWA (by astronomical light year proportions)...........   I just don't get the love that College Station is getting on this website........

[LZH]

You should try living in No Car. (I do). Fayetteville, NC is a military town. If I mention the word, I get "oh, is your (son, grandson) in the military?"

And "hogs" are for slow cooking, whole. (which, btw...is amazingly delicious...but then I get teased about eating my own)

I've worked in Fayetteville, NC. It is an arm pit! Sorry Steef. I wouldn't want to live there long-term unless it's changed in the last eighteen years.

Our Fayetteville is a nice college town and depending on which magazine you read, the 2nd or 3rd best place to live in the entire country (yeah, I know....the whole USA). And while I I'm absolutely crazy about Southwest Florida, and honestly have never been enamored with the Hill Country of Northwest Arkansas, my daughter absolutely loves it - and I do agree it is a very very nice place.

But that campus is a place I hadn't been to in eons...other than ball games. The last two times I have been up to see my baby girl, I have spent quite a bit of time walking around campus and I'm shocked at how neat it is. It has come a long way since my heyday. I'll tell you something else, I'm on all three major campuses here in Florida nearly every other week and while Miami is really nice, Florida State and the UF campus in Gainesville are nothing special at all. Very big, and very plain.

I guess my point is that it's a shame our Fayetteville isn't more widely appreciated. It is nearing the top 100 largest US metropolitan areas, and apparently beats the hell out of it's sister town in North Carolina. And the UA campus is comparable to most other SEC schools. Maybe as the area and the school grows, more people nationally will take notice.

[NaturalStateReb]

Nothing really "southern" about Fayetteville. But best of luck regardless.

Certainly no less Southern than College Station, Texas.

[Vantage 8 dude]

Down here, when I mention that my daughter goes to the U of A most everyone says "Alabama?". Or when we are talking about the weather and it's 75 degrees down here and I say "well it's 45 in Fayetteville", they say "North Carolina?".

Just goes to prove once again that ignorance is universal. 

[Vantage 8 dude]

Our Fayetteville is a nice college town and depending on which magazine you read, the 2nd or 3rd best place to live in the entire country (yeah, I know....the whole USA). And while I I'm absolutely crazy about Southwest Florida, and honestly have never been enamored with the Hill Country of Northwest Arkansas, my daughter absolutely loves it - and I do agree it is a very very nice place.

But that campus is a place I hadn't been to in eons...other than ball games. The last two times I have been up to see my baby girl, I have spent quite a bit of time walking around campus and I'm shocked at how neat it is. It has come a long way since my heyday. I'll tell you something else, I'm on all three major campuses here in Florida nearly every other week and while Miami is really nice, Florida State and the UF campus in Gainesville are nothing special at all. Very big, and very plain.

I guess my point is that it's a shame our Fayetteville isn't more widely appreciated. It is nearing the top 100 largest US metropolitan areas, and apparently beats the hell out of it's sister town in North Carolina. And the UA campus is comparable to most other SEC schools. Maybe as the area and the school grows, more people nationally will take notice.

I see what you're saying and agree to a certain extent. However, as many of my clients from up north and the upper midwest have constantly reminded me Arkansas is an incredible secret. They'd prefer we never let the story out. I then remind them that as a native Arkansan while I appreciate they're comments and praise, they're some of the same folks who have benefited from the state not being totally "off the radar". 

[uncle bubs]

Exactly. Many of my friends from back in Fayetteville are from somewhere else. They are some of the best friends I've ever had, but they do contribute to NWA losing some of its identity. It's a double edged sword, but one I'm happy to have!

[Birminghog]

Down here, when I mention that my daughter goes to the U of A most everyone says "Alabama?". Or when we are talking about the weather and it's 75 degrees down here and I say "well it's 45 in Fayetteville", they say "North Carolina?".

In the 'ham, when most folks (especially Bama alums) talk about Bama and don't call it Bama, they tend to call it UA, not U of A. In my thinking, that would leave U of A designation to Arkansas.