Proof that Jerry Jones has gone senile.

[DeltaBoy]

http://www.dallasnews.com/sports/dallas-cowboys/20151201-jerry-jones-expects-another-4-to-5-years-from-tony-romo-this-is-not-a-damn-debate-guys.ece



Jerry Jones became irritated Tuesday morning while discussing the future of his franchise quarterback. When asked during a weekly radio interview about how much longer he expected Tony Romo to be the Dallas Cowboys quarterback, Jones quickly replied, "Four to five years."

Jerry is NUTS!  Romo is burnt toast and like Peyton Manning needs to retire from Football.

[HawgAdvocate]

Well, Romo is under contract for another four years ($20+ mill per). As GM, Jerry has to tow the company line and back his horse. Romo certainly could retire, but unless a catastrophic injury occurs, Romo can cash in for the next few years. It'll be another three years before the Cowboys could cut Romo and lose less than $5 million in dead money,

[EastexHawg]

Why would Romo retire?  He broke a bone, then tried to come back early to help the team out of a dire situation and broke it again.  Carson Palmer has torn up his knee twice and his elbow once and missed basically three seasons.  Should he have retired?  He's the same age as Romo.

[Jackrabbit Hog]

Why would Romo retire?  He broke a bone, then tried to come back early to help the team out of a dire situation and broke it again.  Carson Palmer has torn up his knee twice and his elbow once and missed basically three seasons.  Should he have retired?  He's the same age as Romo.

I do think Romo is injury prone.  Maybe not Sam Bradford injury prone, but injury prone nonetheless.

[ErieHog]

It isn't arm, and it isn't leg related, so it shouldn't hamper him long term.


He's not Peyton, and losing feeling in his fingers;  he's not losing mobility and drive strength, because his legs won't carry the load anymore.

I'm no Romo fan, but there is no reason his career shouldn't carry on a normal remainder arc, with  his current injuries.

[riccoar]

The last QB we had that was Peyton or Brady material was Aikman.  I can't tolerate another 4-5 of Romo.  Jerry has become Al Davis.

[DeltaBoy]

The last QB we had that was Peyton or Brady material was Aikman.  I can't tolerate another 4-5 of Romo.  Jerry has become Al Davis.

my thoughts exactly.

[Hogarusa]

Romo haters make no sense to me.  Its almost like you dont recall the dark period between Aikman and him.  He has been sensational.  His injury is nothing like Peytons.  The back is a concern but other than that, no reason to think he cant play another 3+ seasons and win 10-13 games a year if healthy

[HawgAdvocate]

Romo has now fractured that left clavicle three times over the past five seasons. Its highly vulnerable to refracture because a plate can't be surgically inserted to protect it. Injury with a plate could cause a refracture near the side of the breast bone, which is very near to important arteries.

[immahog]

I love the cowboys almost as much as I love my hogs and thats saying a lot. jerry screwed up way back when he didn't want to give jimmy johnson the credit he deserved.....he has made the cowboys the definition of mediocre. we will not win big till he falls back hires a GM and imo that will be never

[H&D]

Romo haters make no sense to me.  Its almost like you dont recall the dark period between Aikman and him.  He has been sensational.  His injury is nothing like Peytons.  The back is a concern but other than that, no reason to think he cant play another 3+ seasons and win 10-13 games a year if healthy

Other than stats, what has Romo actually accomplished? 

[Dr. Starcs]

More than cam to this point.

[H&D]

More than cam to this point.

I'd hope so, he's been in the league for a lot longer. How many times has Romo been undefeated at this point? Look, I'm not a Cam fan, but has proven to not be anything special when it matters. Hell, I hope Jerry rolls Romo out there for ten more years, it's more fun for me when the Cowboys suck. Their fans are easily trolled.

And what has Tony done soo much better than Cam? They have the same amount of playoff wins.....do they not?

[HiggiePiggy]

http://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/R/RomoTo00.htm?mobile=false


http://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/N/NewtCa00.htm?mobile=false


I would say they have done similar so far except 1 had done it in half the time. 

[Dr. Starcs]

I like how you say, "other than stats" as if one player can determine how good the other positions are, particularly on defense. All he can control is his own stats and even then he has to depend on others.

Smh. It's all about cowboy hate. Just glad Jerry doesn't hate the razorbacks like you all do his team.

[H&D]

I like how you say, "other than stats" as if one player can determine how good the other positions are, particularly on defense. All he can control is his own stats and even then he has to depend on others.

Smh. It's all about cowboy hate. Just glad Jerry doesn't hate the razorbacks like you all do his team.

I don't hate the Cowboys, I dislike the entitled crybaby Cowboys fans. The haven't done anything in twenty years, so don't tell us how good they are, they're not. Stick with your aging injury prone QB that's never won anything meaningful, pay Dez some more money and lose some more games.

[Dr. Starcs]

So lumping all cowboys fans into one big crybaby, entitled group is kinda what you get mad at people for in the politics board about cops right.

[H&D]

So lumping all cowboys fans into one big crybaby, entitled group is kinda what you get mad at people for in the politics board about cops right.

I don't get mad at anybody, so I'm not sure what you're talking about. And I didn't lump all Cowboys fans into anything. If you have to make things up, that means  you don't have an arguement to make. Tell me why the Cowboys are good, I'll wait.

[yraciv]

I'm not a Cowboys fan and do think Jerry has made some stupid decisions through the years.  That being said, I think his loyalty to Romo is the 1 thing he has done right.  This is in no way similar to Manning, different injury.  The guy can still sling the ball, he has just been dealing with injuries all season.  Will he ever be 100% again?  IDK, but until last weeks disaster of a game, his numbers the rest of the year looked solid.  And need you forget last year he completed 70% of his passes w/ 34 TD - 9 Int.

Look he is going to never be the most clutch QB, and he might throw some dumb picks on occasion, but he is still a Top 10 QB in the league when healthy.

[H&D]

I'm not a Cowboys fan and do think Jerry has made some stupid decisions through the years.  That being said, I think his loyalty to Romo is the 1 thing he has done right.  This is in no way similar to Manning, different injury.  The guy can still sling the ball, he has just been dealing with injuries all season.  Will he ever be 100% again?  IDK, but until last weeks disaster of a game, his numbers the rest of the year looked solid.  And need you forget last year he completed 70% of his passes w/ 34 TD - 9 Int.

Look he is going to never be the most clutch QB, and he might throw some dumb picks on occasion, but he is still a Top 10 QB in the league when healthy.

He's a stat machine, not a winner. The Cowboys are full of good players that crumble at the first sign of adversity (see Dez giving up on routes when Romo got hurt last week.) A bunch of impressive athletes with no mental toughness.

[Dr. Starcs]

Well I guess 12-4 and NFC east champions wasnt good last year. 3-0 with romo this year until injuries.

Their record without romo makes my argument for me.

[yraciv]

He's a stat machine, not a winner. The Cowboys are full of good players that crumble at the first sign of adversity (see Dez giving up on routes when Romo got hurt last week.) A bunch of impressive athletes with no mental toughness.

That is an organizational problem. It's a team sport and if Romo had the Patriots around him, he'd have won a Super Bowl or two by now. And don't take that as he is as good as Brady.

[H&D]

That is an organizational problem. It's a team sport and if Romo had the Patriots around him, he'd have won a Super Bowl or two by now. And don't take that as he is as good as Brady.

Yes, and the topic is about Jerry being senile. Show me anywhere where I said Romo wasn't a good QB. I said he hasn't won anything that matters and he hasn't. I shouldn't have to qualify that statement by saying it's a team sport, blah, blah, blah. If someone doesn't understand how football games are won, then they shouldn't be in the discussion in the first place.

[Dr. Starcs]

Jerry has built a solid team the past couple of years. This year, injuries bit them and not having a capable backup qb.

[HawgAdvocate]

Jerry has built a solid team the past couple of years. This year, injuries bit them and not having a capable backup qb.

The OL is young and proven. Aside from that I'd say Jerry has done a poor job putting together a team. They have such little depth on defense, easily the smallest DL in the NFL, the corners were heavily invested in and rarely grade out well (per PFF), and there's no dependable WR aside from Dez.

The fact they lost so many without Romo shows how bad the team actually is. Without Romo, the team can't win. 

[Dr. Starcs]

Or it shows how underrated romo is. They were 12-4 last year.

[HawgAdvocate]

Or it shows how underrated romo is. They were 12-4 last year.

No question there. Romo has shown his value the past few seasons. Last year's team kept their thin defense off the field behind that OL and Demarco putting the offense in continuous, manageable third & short situations (at worst). No Demarco and no Romo has rendered their team strength (OL) almost useless. It's every other position that has failed to step up.

[EastexHawg]

In the Cowboys' drive to the division title last year Romo put up the highest December passer rating in NFL history as Dallas went 4-0.  Then, in the playoffs, he made the plays to beat the Packers in Green Bay...only Dez's loss of the ball on the goal line keeping the Cowboys from advancing to the NFC Championship Game against Seattle, who he had already beaten earlier in the year.

To keep repeating the "choker who never accomplished anything" rhetoric is to willfully ignore the facts.

[H&D]

In the Cowboys' drive to the division title last year Romo put up the highest December passer rating in NFL history as Dallas went 4-0.  Then, in the playoffs, he made the plays to beat the Packers in Green Bay...only Dez's loss of the ball on the goal line keeping the Cowboys from advancing to the NFC Championship Game against Seattle, who he had already beaten earlier in the year.

To keep repeating the "choker who never accomplished anything" rhetoric is to willfully ignore the facts.

One playoff win, FACT.  You can't give him credit for the wins and blame the team for the loses.

[Dr. Starcs]

2 playoff wins. Might wanna check your facts.

3rd highest qb rating for a career of all active qb's, even ahead of Brady and manning.

[H&D]

2 playoff wins. Might wanna check your facts.

3rd highest qb rating for a career of all active qb's, even ahead of Brady and manning.

Two, a whole two, we'll that changes everything. Time to change the Super Bowl Trophy to the Tony Romo is a God Trophy. They're 4-8, they suck. They benefit because the other teams in their division are just as big of dumpster fires.

[DeltaBoy]

My Deal is Tony gone china doll the last few years and gets hurt way to much to be effective , last year was an anomaly for Jerry and Tony. 

[EastexHawg]

Two, a whole two, we'll that changes everything. Time to change the Super Bowl Trophy to the Tony Romo is a God Trophy. They're 4-8, they suck. They benefit because the other teams in their division are just as big of dumpster fires.

How many playoff games did Joe Ferguson win in 17 years in the league?  How about Y.A. Tittle, a Hall of Famer?  Bert Jones? 

How many did Joe Namath win?

We need to get our parameters set regarding what makes a QB worthy and what makes him a stat whore underachiever.  And remember, completely disregard the strength of the team surrounding each QB when reaching your conclusions.

[EastexHawg]

Why in the heck can't I modify my post to change "Bret" Jones to Bert Jones?

[H&D]

How many playoff games did Joe Ferguson win in 17 years in the league?  How about Y.A. Tittle, a Hall of Famer?  Bret Jones? 

How many did Joe Namath win?

We need to get our parameters set regarding what makes a QB worthy and what makes him a stat whore underachiever.  And remember, completely disregard the strength of the team surrounding each QB when reaching your conclusions.

I've said several times, he's a good QB. IMO, Dallas would be better off looking a different direction though. Or hell, keep him, it's more fun for me that way.

[EastexHawg]

Why in the heck can't I modify my post to change "Bret" Jones to Bret Jones?

Dang, it just occurred to me that I got caught up in the B E R T filter.

[DeltaBoy]

This Team missing Demarco more than Jerry will ever admit.

[Dr. Starcs]

^^^

Laughable.

Did shields tell you that?

[DeltaBoy]

^^^

Laughable.

Did shields tell you that?

Nope

http://espn.go.com/nfl/team/stats/_/name/dal/dallas-cowboys

[Dr. Starcs]

Yeah, a healthy qb has nothing to do with the running game. Smh

Taken right from the bench.

[HiggiePiggy]

They aren't missing a running back.  They are missing tony romo being healthy.  They have terrible qbs right now. 

[riccoar]

We have had terrible QB's since Aikman retired.  Romo is not in the same league as Brady, Rodgers, Peyton, etc..  At best he's a slightly above average QB that gets touted as being in the same league as those above.  He is simply not the QB that is going to get Dallas back to a SB.

[PorkRinds]

This Team missing Demarco more than Jerry will ever admit.

No they aren't.  Demarco is missing the cowboys is more like it...

[H&D]

No they aren't.  Demarco is missing the cowboys is more like it...

I'm sure he is, but they're 4-8 and the fact that at that record they are in the playoff discussion is embarrassing.

[HiggiePiggy]

I'm sure he is, but they're 4-8 and the fact that at that record they are in the playoff discussion is embarrassing.

It is.  Seattle got in one year with a 7-9 record I believe.   Didn't Carolina get in last year with a 7-9 last year?

[pigture perfect]

Dallas is a terrible team with a pretty good QB when healthy. It should be obvious to all that Romo is underrated.

[H&D]

Dallas is a terrible team with a pretty good QB when healthy. It should be obvious to all that Romo is underrated.

Underrated by whom? He's a pro-bowler that spoke about in the same conversations as Brady, Manning (both) and Rodgers even though he has won nothing meaningful. If anything he's overrated.

[Dr. Starcs]

^^^

Not real smart there.

He's got the 3rd highest qb rating of any active qb for a career.

[H&D]

^^^

Not real smart there.

He's got the 3rd highest qb rating of any active qb for a career.

I'd rather have a winner when it counts instead of a guy with a good QBR.

[Dr. Starcs]

Smh.

He's one position out of 22. Dallas offense has not been the problem during his career. Check the numbers.