Mallett

[Iwastherein1969]

Not really.   Pete King was just on Football Night in America, and said that team sources suggest that the only thing that keeps Mallett on the roster right now, is that the 3rd quarterback is on Injurd Reserve;  if they had any other experienced option already signed, Mallett would likely be done with the Texans.

well, put in bronze with a pink bow on top...if Pete King says it, its got to be so...look, if Mallett was this big pariah there are plenty of QB's out there out of a job and they should bring them in for tryouts to back-up Brian "I've never done a damm thing in the NFL" Hoyer...if the Texans hitch their wagon to Hoyer, its 4-12 and you can book that for this year, the next year and the year after that...so go ahead on Texans, you reap what you sow

[seasonhog]

the coach may lose his job before Mallett...if the general manager has one clue about how an NFL team should be run he would see his coach is an inept head coach and should be no higher on the totem pole than an assistant....when grooming two young QB's you don't give the job to one guy and then yank him and put the other in after one quarter....there is MORE THAN ENOUGH tape on Hoyer to know exactly what you have in that guy and its winning on of every 3 games, at best...Bill O' Brien is not on solid ground himself...Has Mallett ever missed a team flight before ?  answer, No...so its more than a Mallett problem

You are right 1969....

Houston lap dog writer McClain said after Hoyer was named the starter week one that the Hard Knocks show was  that a show, that Hoyer was the starter the day he was signed....

[Iwastherein1969]

Currently, Mallett's behavior is inexcusable. In my opinion, given any option he could fly himself back to somewhere other than Houston were I HC or GM.

But it's not over: if Jeff George can be rehabbed or Cutler can still start than anything is possible.

But we're past the on a platter opportunities due to potential.

Mallett needs to be thrilled to be on a roster and hope for injury while acting the model citizen.

Nobody is handing him the keys again without desperate need.

the guy has already made more money in 4 years than you will make in a lifetime

[ErieHog]

well, put in bronze with a pink bow on top...if Pete King says it, its got to be so...look, if Mallett was this big pariah there are plenty of QB's out there out of a job and they should bring them in for tryouts to back-up Brian "I've never done a damm thing in the NFL" Hoyer...if the Texans hitch their wagon to Hoyer, its 4-12 and you can book that for this year, the next year and the year after that...so go ahead on Texans, you reap what you sow

He's reasonably plugged in to league personnel decisions, and has been reasonably good in calling how the Texans QB situation has been-- so yeah,  he's much closer to an authoritative voice on the subject than random Arkansas fan poster.

In terms of free agent options-- not really.    I mean, there is a reason why a 42 year old Matt Hasselback is still an active NFL backup--  a lack of QB options on the open market.

[Wooderson]

I've been as big of a Mallett fan as any.  The fact is he is a thug.  He needs to learn to speak properly and act properly.


He has a million dollar arm and a five cent head.

[Hogarusa]

O'B need to be a Asst. coach in N.E. and

Houston need to trade Mallett to Dallas for Cassel.......

Laughable the amount of excuses you have provided for Mallett over the past 2 seasons.  He should hire you as his agent. 

[seasonhog]

Laughable the amount of excuses you have provided for Mallett over the past 2 seasons.  He should hire you as his agent.

Yes, he should.......

[Hogarusa]

You are right 1969....

Houston lap dog writer McClain said after Hoyer was named the starter week one that the Hard Knocks show was  that a show, that Hoyer was the starter the day he was signed....

And then Hoyer lost his job in the 4th qtr week 1 and didnt get it back until Mallett took himself out on an injury.  Crazy how people just gloss over that part

[majestic]

the guy has already made more money in 4 years than you will make in a lifetime

And you in two. 

[seasonhog]

And then Hoyer lost his job in the 4th qtr week 1 and didnt get it back until Mallett took himself out on an injury.  Crazy how people just gloss over that part

7 for 10 driving the team down field, get hit hard had no wind, did the right thing by not calling a time out, was that not the first Quarter?

ready to returned .....what happen.?.....how did Hoyer do today,,,,?

[Fatty McGee]

7 for 10 driving the team down field, get hit hard had no wind, did the right thing by not calling a time out, was that not the first Quarter?

ready to returned .....what happen.?.....how did Hoyer do today,,,,?

Do you really believe that O'Brien, who made the choice or was undoubtedly heavily involved in  the decision to sign Mallett as a free agent, and presumably wants to keep his job, is trying to screw Mallett over personal reasons and not play him even though he's "obviously" the best QB now?  I mean, stranger things have happened I guess, but this seems out there.

You keep talking about this 7-10, which is a good start, but you act as if that's the only 10 passes he's thrown this year.  Or that he always made the correct reads on each.  Maybe he did, I don't know, but still why are we harping on this small sample when larger numbers are out there.  I like Mallett, and hope he has a long career simply because he's a Razorback.  But I'm not pretending he's taking the Texans to the playoffs if he can just get on the field.  All evidence to date is that he might be a long term serviceable backup as a ceiling in the NFL.  Obviously, situation matters, in any team sport, but to get in those great situations, you have to show those coaches that you have the right attitude.  Franchises with great culture usually don't waste time on knuckleheads.

Here's a great interview with Gregg Popovich with what he looks for - does it sound like Mallett to date?

http://hoopshype.com/2015/10/13/forces-of-character-a-conversation-with-gregg-popovich/

[LutherLindsey]

It is very possible he got held up due to traffic. Anyone who has driven in Houston lately realizes that.

[seasonhog]

Do you really believe that O'Brien, who made the choice or was undoubtedly heavily involved in  the decision to sign Mallett as a free agent, and presumably wants to keep his job, is trying to screw Mallett over personal reasons and not play him even though he's "obviously" the best QB now?  I mean, stranger things have happened I guess, but this seems out there.

You keep talking about this 7-10, which is a good start, but you act as if that's the only 10 passes he's thrown this year.  Or that he always made the correct reads on each.  Maybe he did, I don't know, but still why are we harping on this small sample when larger numbers are out there.  I like Mallett, and hope he has a long career simply because he's a Razorback.  But I'm not pretending he's taking the Texans to the playoffs if he can just get on the field.  All evidence to date is that he might be a long term serviceable backup as a ceiling in the NFL.  Obviously, situation matters, in any team sport, but to get in those great situations, you have to show those coaches that you have the right attitude.  Franchises with great culture usually don't waste time on knuckleheads.

Here's a great interview with Gregg Popovich with what he looks for - does it sound like Mallett to date?

http://hoopshype.com/2015/10/13/forces-of-character-a-conversation-with-gregg-popovich/

They are a large sample out there.......on Hoyer.......a small sample on Mallett

When you can't make it in Cleveland,,,,,,,,,,well maybe it's O'B who needs a clue........

[Fatty McGee]

They are a large sample out there.......on Hoyer.......a small sample on Mallett

When you can't make it in Cleveland,,,,,,,,,,well maybe it's O'B who needs a clue........

Maybe, but he's the one with the job on the line and observes practice every day.  We're a bunch of people in love with our home state and school player and willing to give him every benefit.  If you step back from that, who do you think is more likely to be right?

[Boarcephus]

Then why was he pulled?

He really wasn't pulled, he took a shot to the gut and had to come out for a couple plays, Hoyer came in and started moving the team.  Mallett up to that point  was 7-10 but nothing really was happening.  He had one pick that went off the hands of the receiver over the middle.  You could tell Mallett was dying on the sideline to get back in but in all fairness, Hoyer was moving the team better and putting points on the board.

[Smokehouse]

Do you really believe that O'Brien, who made the choice or was undoubtedly heavily involved in  the decision to sign Mallett as a free agent, and presumably wants to keep his job, is trying to screw Mallett over personal reasons and not play him even though he's "obviously" the best QB now?  I mean, stranger things have happened I guess, but this seems out there.

And when Mallett was traded to Houston, it was reported that O'Brien was the one who made the final decision to pull the trigger. But, yes, the most likely situation is that O'Brien traded for Mallett - a QB he had past experience with - watched him throw 74 passes in 2014, watched him be "obviously" the better QB in practice, and then decided to set up a sham competition and give someone else the job. And then he pulled that guy in the fourth quarter of the first game and gave Mallett two starts, which somehow works into his conspiracy to screw Ryan over.

If you look around, the only people who have anything positive to say about Mallett are Hog fans. It's much more likely that everyone else has a better read on the situation than the biased fan base.

[seasonhog]

It is very possible he got held up due to traffic. Anyone who has driven in Houston lately realizes that.

Yes it is very possible, I think Ryan maybe is trying to get traded, O'B would blow any QB mind....

They are several teams that need a QB, I wonder how many times he has thought I screw up by not going to the Jets, were... who is the QB there, Ryan Fitz......and doing a great job.

If O.B had any smarts .....he would have keep Fitz

The problem in Houston is the head coach.

[seasonhog]

If you look around, the only people who have anything positive to say about Mallett are Hog fans. It's much more likely that everyone else has a better read on the situation than the biased fan base.

biased hog fans.......

Houston fans wanting Mallett as QB,.......  by abt 80%

Those biased Texans fans

[seasonhog]

So what was the problem in New England where they traded Mallett away for the NFL equivalent of a six-pack of lukewarm Pabst?

To some people,,,a six- pack is better then nothing......which is what they were going to get.

[Fatty McGee]

biased hog fans.......

Houston fans wanting Mallett as QB,.......  by abt 80%

Those biased Texans fans

Why would anyone ever listen to fans?  We don't know crap.

[OS2 (SW) Razor Back]

I'd love to see RM in Buffalo or Denver.

[rude1]

Yes it is very possible, I think Ryan maybe is trying to get traded, O'B would blow any QB mind....

They are several teams that need a QB, I wonder how many times he has thought I screw up by not going to the Jets, were... who is the QB there, Ryan Fitz......and doing a great job.

If O.B had any smarts .....he would have keep Fitz

The problem in Houston is the head coach.

I guess you haven't kept up but the Patriots basically had to give Mallett away to move him. I don't know where this idea that there are teams wanting him, they are few and far between.

[seasonhog]

He really wasn't pulled, he took a shot to the gut and had to come out for a couple plays, Hoyer came in and started moving the team.  Mallett up to that point  was 7-10 but nothing really was happening.  He had one pick that went off the hands of the receiver over the middle.  You could tell Mallett was dying on the sideline to get back in but in all fairness, Hoyer was moving the team better and putting points on the board.

You don't do that with your starter at that stage of the game......Mallett should be be pee.......

[seasonhog]

I guess you haven't kept up but the Patriots basically had to give Mallett away to move him. I don't know where this idea that there are teams wanting him, they are few and far between.

Do you understand..........

Mallett was a free agent.....N.E. was going to get nothing for him......he was not going to resign with them.

[Smokehouse]

biased hog fans.......

Houston fans wanting Mallett as QB,.......  by abt 80%

Those biased Texans fans

Like these Texans fans?

http://boards.houstontexans.com/showthread.php?t=45815

That guy just has no capacity for embarrassment. He literally just looks and acts like a thirteen year old. The team must hate him by now.

Now THAT is the guy that I would pick to be the leader of my team...

Wait, no... I would never even consider that.

It's not even funny anymore, Methos' belly is about to burst with crow... Let's go ahead and cut him and move on.

Mallett is quickly becoming a liability. If he doesn't get cut what kind of message does that send to the rest of the team?

If Watt was so upset over an opposing QB taking a selfie before a game think how he feels about Mallett right now. And that goes for every other player on that team that's doing all the right things, working hard to improve while Mallett pouts and does whatever the heck he wants.

As a person who thought Mallet could be a decent QB. I now stand corrected.

Mallet is a flat out embarrassment.

Lol...I'm sure there are GMs in the league thinking lets trade for that guy who isn't very good and doesn't even bother to show up.

It's clear that while he has talent and probably could be coached. He lacks discipline and heart. It's his way or no way and that has become very clear. I liked the kid last year, this year his selfish ways have shown through to who he really is. I doubt that any team will touch him as far as any trade ideas that have floated around.

He loses almost 200K for not being active for any game. I'd buy a few clocks

Not a positive post in that thread. 80%? You know, 68.42% of statistics are made up on the spot.

I hope Mallett turns it around. But he's blown it in Houston and made his path forward significantly harder in the process.

[Smokehouse]

Do you understand..........

Mallett was a free agent.....N.E. was going to get nothing for him......he was not going to resign with them.

His only offers in the offseason were Houston or the Jets. If nobody else would sign him when he was available, why would they trade for him now when his stock has done nothing but go down?

[Pig In The City]

Mallett needs to be a professional. It is sometimes hard to swallow but everyone has to learn it. If you work for someone else, they call the shots. Mallett has done zero in the NFL. If he doesn't grow up it will remain zero. Life is 10% what happens to you and 90% how you react to what happens.

[seasonhog]

Like these Texans fans?

http://boards.houstontexans.com/showthread.php?t=45815

Not a positive post in that thread. 80%? You know, 68.42% of statistics are made up on the spot.

I hope Mallett turns it around. But he's blown it in Houston and made his path forward significantly harder in the process.

It would not be hard to find that today......when the season starter it was Mallett by about 80%

Houston writer and fans after today ....need to worry more about O'B, & Hoyer then Mallett.

[Smokehouse]

It would not be hard to find that today......when the season starter it was Mallett by about 80%

Houston writer and fans after today ....need to worry more about O'B, & Hoyer then Mallett.

Oh, so, the fans wanted Mallett before they had seen him in game action, and with the only evidence they had to base their opinion on being footage from Hard Knocks? And now that they've changed their mind based on what Mallett has presented during the season, that's not relevant - but their previous, uninformed opinion is evidence of malice on O'Brien's part? You're really stretching here.

I think O'Brien is a bad head coach, but I think the most boneheaded move he's made so far was pulling Hoyer in the first place. Pick your guy and then ride with him.

[Capt. Hamm]

I love Mallett, but he needs to grow up.

[seasonhog]

I think O'Brien is a bad head coach, but I think the most boneheaded move he's made so far was pulling Hoyer in the first place. Pick your guy and then ride with him.

Hoyer was worse today then any time Mallett has played. Hoyer has a slow release , put some heat on him & see what happen,,......anyone that has follow him know....he will fold like a cheap tent.

Miami knew that, & what happen in today game.

He has a 7 year trail.......

[Smokehouse]

Hoyer was worse today then any time Mallett has played. Hoyer has a slow release , put some heat on him & see what happen,,......anyone that has follow him know....he will fold like a cheap tent.

Miami knew that, & what happen in today game.

He has a 7 year trail.......

I'm not saying Hoyer is the better QB. Mallett clearly has better raw talent, in terms of physically throwing the ball. I'm saying if you, as the head coach, decide that Hoyer should be your starter then don't second guess it before the first game of the season is over. Make a choice and stick with it. Switching guys around doesn't help either of them.

[Overtheroadtruckdriver]

What is it with lanky former Arkansas quarterbacks when they get to the nfl?

For the record Ryan mallett is gonna be just fine.  Ol' Dimple chin o'brien is the one that needs to go. 

[hoglady]

People can debate Mallett's potential as a NFL QB all day, but regardless of where you'd rank him, he does have some high potential.  Unfortunately, no one seems to make use of it.  He may not have been the best choice for NE or Houston, but I still think he could have been a great QB for the right team.  It's sad that someone will miss out on that potential, because I still think he could have been great.

Oh I think he could still be great.
But man he's got to grow up.
Unfortunately, He may have just tanked any chance of another team giving him a shot.

[Tejano Jawg]

I'm a Mallett fan as much as the next guy but you can't act the way he's acting and expect the players to have any respect for you.  I really felt for the guy when he started a couple games ago and got knocked out of the game and Hoyer came in and Mallett hasn't seen the field since.  It was killing him to come out and not be able to get back it and it showed.  He's been chasing a dream since he was drafted and thought he'd caught it Houston but apparently it's turned into a nightmare. 

This...well said.

[hoghearted]

So what was the problem in New England where they traded Mallett away for the NFL equivalent of a six-pack of lukewarm Pabst?

end of Mallett's contract. Nobody thought he was going to hang around to be Brady's backup.

[Pigsknuckles]

Everyone quit obsessing over RM. There were legit reasons why he wasn't drafted higher, and even more legit reasons why he hasn't made it with the opportunities afforded him. He has skills mind you, but little that separates him from his competition. Couple with that an attitude of entitlement, and RM is really just a liability for any team he plays for. Some of us have paid attention to the man behind the curtain, and he just ain't Oz. Seems, from many of the comments I see here, that everyone but RM is responsible for him "making it" in the league.

[hoghearted]

Mallett has proven the HC right in why he favored Hoyer. When Mallett didn't get the job, he "over sleeps" and misses practice. When Mallett got the job Hoyer continued to work and be a team player, waiting on his next opportunity. . Hoyer gets his next opportunity when Mallett gets hurt and does well, Mallett beats everyone into the locker room at the half of the game where he gets hurt and is not playing. Now he misses team flight. Stop the excuses for this guy, he is all about himself and not a team player at all, at this rate he is not only making his way out of Houston but possibly a NFL career all together.

Has Mallett ever given any indication in his past that he would behave as you describe?

And just where did I make excuses? I pointed out that he needs to be a professional, but I might understand if he is feeling bitter, based on what has been hinted at by some reports out of Houston.

He is about to get himself blackballed, if that hasn't already happened. I hate it for him, one because he is a Hog, and two, because I think he has a lot of potential.

[(notOM)Rebel123]

What is it with lanky former Arkansas quarterbacks when they get to the nfl?

For the record Ryan mallett is gonna be just fine.  Ol' Dimple chin o'brien is the one that needs to go. 

Yeah....between Ryan & Ol' Dimple chin O'Brien, only one of them was able to get to the airport on time. Geez.

[hoglady]

I will say that the Mallett story was not high priority regarding the Texans on ESPN radio today.
Instead, they were talking about the Texans defense putting forth no effort and quitting from the start, defenders make no effort and letting players run right past them,  then got started on how absolutely horrible Hoyer is. Actually said both the Houston defense and Hoyer were an embarrassment to the NFL.
O'Brien appears to have lost the entire team.

[Smokehouse]

I will say that the Mallett story was not high priority regarding the Texans on ESPN radio today.
Instead, they were talking about the Texans defense putting forth no effort and quitting from the start, defenders make no effort and letting players run right past them,  then got started on how absolutely horrible Hoyer is. Actually said both the Houston defense and Hoyer were an embarrassment to the NFL.
O'Brien appears to have lost the entire team.

I doubt he gets another season after this. Maybe he should consider going back to college.

[rude1]

Do you understand..........

Mallett was a free agent.....N.E. was going to get nothing for him......he was not going to resign with them.

They weren't going to resign him, already had a rookie they liked better, they put him on the trading block and got no interest so they just took basically nothing and let him go. Sorry but he was and is NOT a hot commodity among NFL teams.

[seasonhog]

I will say that the Mallett story was not high priority regarding the Texans on ESPN radio today.
Instead, they were talking about the Texans defense putting forth no effort and quitting from the start, defenders make no effort and letting players run right past them,  then got started on how absolutely horrible Hoyer is. Actually said both the Houston defense and Hoyer were an embarrassment to the NFL.
O'Brien appears to have lost the entire team.

Thanks, hoglady, the QB's have not been the biggest issue for Houston, they have only one receivers that can catch the ball, no TE,,,,,and when Mallett played no running back, and a coach that think he is BB , and Mallett is the problem ?

Also no DBacks, can't stop the pass.

[seasonhog]

They weren't going to resign him, already had a rookie they liked better, they put him on the trading block and got no interest so they just took basically nothing and let him go. Sorry but he was and is NOT a hot commodity among NFL teams.

That is bull......

[Jackrabbit Hog]

Hate to say it, and the perception may not be fair, but I suspect most non-Arkansas NFL fans compare RM to Ryan Leaf and JaMarcus Russell.  There are some parallels.

[(notOM)Rebel123]

Thanks, hoglady, the QB's have not been the biggest issue for Houston, they have only one receivers that can catch the ball, no TE,,,,,and when Mallett played no running back, and a coach that think he is BB , and Mallett is the problem ?

Also no DBacks, can't stop the pass.

It doesn't matter if John L. "smiley" Smith is the coach. If a guy misses the team flight & blames it on traffic, that is weak. Did all the other players who were on the team plane not have to drive thru Houston traffic to get to the airport? this is the same guy that when he was passed over for the starting job during training camp, he promptly overslept when his alarm didn't go off because his phone apparently "shut off." Time for RM to grow up or his time in the NFL will be done. RM is the problem for RM.

[rude1]

That is bull......

That is what happened, go back and look what Houston gave for him, a SEVENTH round pick, now what part of that says that he was some kind of hot commodity? You mean to tell me as many teams that could use a QB they couldn't afford to spend more than that to acquire him? Sorry but Mallett is only highly thought as an NFL QB on this message board by a few.

[Dr. Starcs]

Big difference in being a top 2 pick and a 3rd rounder.

[LA Football fan]

That is what happened, go back and look what Houston gave for him, a SEVENTH round pick, now what part of that says that he was some kind of hot commodity? You mean to tell me as many teams that could use a QB they couldn't afford to spend more than that to acquire him? Sorry but Mallett is only highly thought as an NFL QB on this message board by a few.

[Jackrabbit Hog]

Big difference in being a top 2 pick and a 3rd rounder.

True, and thankfully for RM he won't be in the "biggest QB bust" conversation because he was only a 3rd rounder.  I was thinking more about the physical size, the tools, the rocket arm, countered by the immaturity or whatever you want to call it.