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WilsonHog

December 30, 2009, 10:37:03 pm
I've never seen so much testosterone.

We got beat, and handily. It's happened before this year, and it will happen again. Likely several more times, in fact.

We not a very good basketball team. At all. Big whoop. It is what it is, and right now "it" is pretty ugly. If you're gonna go all Urban Meyer every time we get beat you're gonna have a long couple of months.

No sense getting all horsey about it.

dagnamit

December 30, 2009, 10:40:24 pm #1
Because.
 

dagnamit

December 30, 2009, 10:40:44 pm #2
we

dagnamit

December 30, 2009, 10:41:03 pm #3
su..

Break & Run

December 30, 2009, 10:42:00 pm #4
Because as loyal fans, we deserve better.  And there's NOTHING being done in order to justify us NOT being completely pissed off at the administration on the hill and the ignorant bball coach we have.
Quote from: Michael BernalWhat's your favorite Arkansas tradition?
"I can't be cliché and say 'Call the Hogs,' but I think I have to.  That's just something that sets our university apart.  When you're out on the field and everyone in the stadium stands up, it's amazing.  Even when we're at a football or basketball game, just to see that many people around you doing the same thing for you when you're on the field or for the other guys who are playing, it's pretty awesome."

The real Hogules

December 30, 2009, 10:45:03 pm #5
Quote from: WilsonHog on December 30, 2009, 10:37:03 pm
I've never seen so much testosterone.

We got beat, and handily. It's happened before this year, and it will happen again. Likely several more times, in fact.

We not a very good basketball team. At all. Big whoop. It is what it is, and right now "it" is pretty ugly. If you're gonna go all Urban Meyer every time we get beat you're gonna have a long couple of months.

No sense getting all horsey about it.

I think what is putting the horse Miss in my Corn Flakes is the real possibility that our AD "might" be stupid enough to allow this experiment gone bad to continue for another season................................or two!

If I had some assurance that the season was going to be allowed to play out and then the appropriate actions were indeed going to be taken, then I could relax and see the light at the end of the tunnel.As opposed to having to wonder if this insanity would continue indefinitely!

Anyone with ANY inside information that they would care to share would be very much appreciated by this looooooong time Razorback basketball listener, and attender of games.
Bobby's back and he ain't here to paint!

MakeMeOink

December 30, 2009, 10:45:33 pm #6
1. Because not being able to physically compete with BAYLOR ON NATIONAL TV IS EMBARRASSING!

2. We didn't SCORE 50 POINTS!

3. HAWGBALL IS BEYOND DEAD!

ishankem

December 30, 2009, 10:45:57 pm #7
ck!

Tusks

December 30, 2009, 10:48:27 pm #8
because its the worst hog basketball team since 1973.....Baylor....yes Baylor a team I never remember losing to while in school....now has better facilities and a better program.... just waltzed into LR and hung a 23 point loss on the hogs....that should NEVER happen....NEVER.

and I dint think everyone is looking forward to maybe a 50 point loss to KY and the arse wipe calipari.

2 SEC wins last year and now probably 1 or 2 this year.

yeah im ok with that....
sometimes it's a good and some times it's a schit

ErieHog

December 30, 2009, 10:48:38 pm #9
Instant gratification or instant indignation are the only two flavors people recognize, Wilson.
No cause, ever, in the history of all mankind, has produced more cold-blooded tyrants, more slaughtered innocents, and more orphans than socialism with power. It surpassed, exponentially, all other systems of production in turning out the dead. The bodies are all around us. And here is the problem: No one talks about them. No one honors them. No one does penance for them. No one has committed suicide for having been an apologist for those who did this to them. No one pays for them. No one is hunted down to account for them. It is exactly what Solzhenitsyn foresaw in The Gulag Archipelago: "No, no one would have to answer. No one would be looked into." Until that happens, there is no "after socialism."

Marshfieldhog

December 30, 2009, 10:49:48 pm #10
Real hogulus summed up my feelings..I would feel better if I had a feeling long was going to fix the mess that frank and white made

WilsonHog

December 30, 2009, 10:49:57 pm #11
Quote from: MakeMeOink on December 30, 2009, 10:45:33 pm
1. Because not being able to physically compete with BAYLOR ON NATIONAL TV IS EMBARRASSING!

2. We didn't SCORE 50 POINTS!

3. HAWGBALL IS BEYOND DEAD!

Acceptance.

I watched the first half, and my general thought pattern was that we were playing fairly well for what we have - but at no point did it enter my mind that we would win. And then as the second half pretty much confirmed what I thought would happen all along (i.e. we would lose by 15-20 points, I simply watched happen what I thought would happen. No surprise, no upset.

We're gonna play Texas in a few days, and we're probably gonna get beat pretty handily. I have no illusions, no expectations that we're gonna beat the Horns, so I'll watch it with that frame of mind.   

ErieHog

December 30, 2009, 10:51:24 pm #12
Quote from: WilsonHog on December 30, 2009, 10:49:57 pm
Acceptance.

I watched the first half, and my general thought pattern was that we were playign fairly well for what we have - but at no pint did it enter my mind that we would win. And then as the second half pretty much confirmed what I thought would happen all along (i.e. we would lose by 15-20 points, I simply watched happen what I thought would happen. No surprise, no upset.

We're gonna play Texas in a few days, and we're probably gonna get beat pretty handily. I have no illusions, no expectations that we're gonna beat the Horns, so I'll watch it with that frame of mind.   

I'm sure there will be more threads counting on a 50 point loss, and some really rosy 'We can play with Texas' threads too.

Then, we'll all settle in to watch Texas beat us by 25-30, and the venom will flow again.
No cause, ever, in the history of all mankind, has produced more cold-blooded tyrants, more slaughtered innocents, and more orphans than socialism with power. It surpassed, exponentially, all other systems of production in turning out the dead. The bodies are all around us. And here is the problem: No one talks about them. No one honors them. No one does penance for them. No one has committed suicide for having been an apologist for those who did this to them. No one pays for them. No one is hunted down to account for them. It is exactly what Solzhenitsyn foresaw in The Gulag Archipelago: "No, no one would have to answer. No one would be looked into." Until that happens, there is no "after socialism."
 

Break & Run

December 30, 2009, 10:52:12 pm #13
It has nothing to do with instant gratification with me.  Other than those two 'over our head wins' last year, what has Pel done?  He took a STAN HEATH team to the NCAA tournament. WOO HOO....Pel has driven Razorback basketball 30 feet into the ground while everyone just sits back and watchs.  What do you expect from a KENTUCKY ALUMNI!!!!!!!!!!!
Quote from: Michael BernalWhat's your favorite Arkansas tradition?
"I can't be cliché and say 'Call the Hogs,' but I think I have to.  That's just something that sets our university apart.  When you're out on the field and everyone in the stadium stands up, it's amazing.  Even when we're at a football or basketball game, just to see that many people around you doing the same thing for you when you're on the field or for the other guys who are playing, it's pretty awesome."

Oliver

December 30, 2009, 10:53:53 pm #14
I think as fans we should have some sort of therapeutic release for having to watch these games.  I can't imagine what the people who paid to see tonight's game are doing.  A few frustrating posts on a Hog message board is a healthy way to deal with the state of our basketball program.

Breems

December 30, 2009, 10:53:59 pm #15
Wilson and Erie,

Do either of you believe that if Fortson had been playing tonight that it would have been very close, if not a W?
Proud member of the "Left Before Halftime" football club.

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WilsonHog

December 30, 2009, 10:54:46 pm #16
Quote from: THE BAND GEEK on December 30, 2009, 10:52:12 pm
It has nothing to do with instant gratification with me.  Other than those two 'over our head wins' last year, what has Pel done?  He took a STAN HEATH team to the NCAA tournament. WOO HOO....Pel has driven Razorback basketball 30 feet into the ground while everyone just sits back and watchs.  What do you expect from a KENTUCKY ALUMNI!!!!!!!!!!!

While everyone sits back and watches?

That implies we can do something.

What will YOU do tonight to fix this problem? Right now: what will you do...

Answer: nothing. Same thing I'm gonna do.

Because there's nothing we can do.

It is what it is this year. Might as well just sit back and watch. 

ErieHog

December 30, 2009, 10:55:19 pm #17
Quote from: THE BAND GEEK on December 30, 2009, 10:52:12 pm
It has nothing to do with instant gratification with me.  Other than those two 'over our head wins' last year, what has Pel done?  He took a STAN HEATH team to the NCAA tournament. WOO HOO....Pel has driven Razorback basketball 30 feet into the ground while everyone just sits back and watchs.  What do you expect from a KENTUCKY ALUMNI!!!!!!!!!!!

As devil's advocate:  won a tournament game (something we hadn't done in a decade); won more SEC road games in a season than Heath did during 3 years of his tenure *combined*.

The state of Arkansas basketball is bad.  It can, and arguably should get worse before it gets better.

It is, however, not the end of the world, or the end of the program.    We're about 35 games into rebuilding.
No cause, ever, in the history of all mankind, has produced more cold-blooded tyrants, more slaughtered innocents, and more orphans than socialism with power. It surpassed, exponentially, all other systems of production in turning out the dead. The bodies are all around us. And here is the problem: No one talks about them. No one honors them. No one does penance for them. No one has committed suicide for having been an apologist for those who did this to them. No one pays for them. No one is hunted down to account for them. It is exactly what Solzhenitsyn foresaw in The Gulag Archipelago: "No, no one would have to answer. No one would be looked into." Until that happens, there is no "after socialism."

WilsonHog

December 30, 2009, 10:56:25 pm #18
Quote from: ImissBrewer on December 30, 2009, 10:53:59 pm
Wilson and Erie,

Do either of you believe that if Fortson had been playing tonight that it would have been very close, if not a W?

I don't, but I'll say this. In my mind, asking if Fortson would have made a difference is about like asking if Corliss would have. Both are about equally relevant right now when it comes to Razorback basketball.   

Break & Run

December 30, 2009, 10:57:09 pm #19
Quote from: ErieHog on December 30, 2009, 10:55:19 pm
As devil's advocate:  won a tournament game (something we hadn't done in a decade); won more SEC road games in a season than Heath did during 3 years of his tenure *combined*.

The state of Arkansas basketball is bad.  It can, and arguably should get worse before it gets better.

It is, however, not the end of the world, or the end of the program.    We're about 35 games into rebuilding.


Pel's not the guy for the job.  Simple as that.  Why would he want to have success at Arkansas when he despised them when he was a player at Kentucky??  HE won that NCAA against a bad Indiana team...he won those SEC road games with Heath's players...
Quote from: Michael BernalWhat's your favorite Arkansas tradition?
"I can't be cliché and say 'Call the Hogs,' but I think I have to.  That's just something that sets our university apart.  When you're out on the field and everyone in the stadium stands up, it's amazing.  Even when we're at a football or basketball game, just to see that many people around you doing the same thing for you when you're on the field or for the other guys who are playing, it's pretty awesome."

ErieHog

December 30, 2009, 10:57:14 pm #20
Quote from: ImissBrewer on December 30, 2009, 10:53:59 pm
Wilson and Erie,

Do either of you believe that if Fortson had been playing tonight that it would have been very close, if not a W?

No.  Basketball isn't something you pick up and put down, in terms of the proper preparation for games.   Yes, you can practice with a team all you want, but without game minutes, you have practice habits and mental situations that you simply aren't prepared for when you first come out on the floor.

The game would have been much better, but I still don't see it as a win under those circumstances,  not with a limited Washington.
No cause, ever, in the history of all mankind, has produced more cold-blooded tyrants, more slaughtered innocents, and more orphans than socialism with power. It surpassed, exponentially, all other systems of production in turning out the dead. The bodies are all around us. And here is the problem: No one talks about them. No one honors them. No one does penance for them. No one has committed suicide for having been an apologist for those who did this to them. No one pays for them. No one is hunted down to account for them. It is exactly what Solzhenitsyn foresaw in The Gulag Archipelago: "No, no one would have to answer. No one would be looked into." Until that happens, there is no "after socialism."

Oliver

December 30, 2009, 10:57:21 pm #21
Quote from: ErieHog on December 30, 2009, 10:55:19 pm
As devil's advocate:  won a tournament game (something we hadn't done in a decade); won more SEC road games in a season than Heath did during 3 years of his tenure *combined*.


As devil's advocate:  do you think Heath couldn't have done what Pelphrey did his first year if he would have stayed an extra year? 

Not defending Heath here mind you.

Porkem

December 30, 2009, 10:57:56 pm #22
I'm sick of people sugar-coating failure.  Razorback basketball is dead.  The Jeff Long's and the Pel-lovers...you've won.  I'm tired of debating you.
You won.  People that accept mediocrity and failure need to take a close
look at yourself in the mirror.  I hope you like what you see.


"Due to current economic conditions, Porkem has decided to file for moral bankruptcy."

ErieHog

December 30, 2009, 10:59:49 pm #23
Quote from: THE BAND GEEK on December 30, 2009, 10:57:09 pm
Pel's not the guy for the job.  Simple as that.  Why would he want to have success at Arkansas when he despised them when he was a player at Kentucky??  HE won that NCAA against a bad Indiana team...he won those SEC road games with Heath's players...

Why would he want to have success at Arkansas?  Maybe so he could get the Kentucky job one day;  maybe so he could continue  to earn a paycheck;  maybe so he could have the great treatment Arkansas fans are willing to give coaches who achieve.   Just about every possible rational reason, really.

That 'bad' Indiana team, by the way, featured 2 NBA regulars, and should have won the Big Ten title.    If only Stan had the good fortune to not run into those buzzsaws like Bucknell,  or if Nolan hadn't quit coaching four years before he was fired,  they might have lucked into similar achievements.

No cause, ever, in the history of all mankind, has produced more cold-blooded tyrants, more slaughtered innocents, and more orphans than socialism with power. It surpassed, exponentially, all other systems of production in turning out the dead. The bodies are all around us. And here is the problem: No one talks about them. No one honors them. No one does penance for them. No one has committed suicide for having been an apologist for those who did this to them. No one pays for them. No one is hunted down to account for them. It is exactly what Solzhenitsyn foresaw in The Gulag Archipelago: "No, no one would have to answer. No one would be looked into." Until that happens, there is no "after socialism."
 

ErieHog

December 30, 2009, 11:01:09 pm #24
Quote from: Oliver Miller on December 30, 2009, 10:57:21 pm
As devil's advocate:  do you think Heath couldn't have done what Pelphrey did his first year if he would have stayed an extra year? 

Not defending Heath here mind you.

No.  I think we'd have been a more up-and-down team, in terms of performance; I think he had completely lost Darrian Townes, and unless he could have somehow convinced Townes he was playing for an opportunity to make money overseas, we would have had a similar record, but a worse tournament performance-- leading to worse NCAA seeding, and a probable beat-down.
No cause, ever, in the history of all mankind, has produced more cold-blooded tyrants, more slaughtered innocents, and more orphans than socialism with power. It surpassed, exponentially, all other systems of production in turning out the dead. The bodies are all around us. And here is the problem: No one talks about them. No one honors them. No one does penance for them. No one has committed suicide for having been an apologist for those who did this to them. No one pays for them. No one is hunted down to account for them. It is exactly what Solzhenitsyn foresaw in The Gulag Archipelago: "No, no one would have to answer. No one would be looked into." Until that happens, there is no "after socialism."

Oliver

December 30, 2009, 11:03:06 pm #25
Quote from: ErieHog on December 30, 2009, 11:01:09 pm
No.  I think we'd have been a more up-and-down team, in terms of performance; I think he had completely lost Darrian Townes, and unless he could have somehow convinced Townes he was playing for an opportunity to make money overseas, we would have had a similar record, but a worse tournament performance-- leading to worse NCAA seeding, and a probable beat-down.

He took us to the NCAAT the year before and lost in the first round and virtually lost nobody.  I think he would have been able to win a first round game had he stayed another year.  Then again I asked for you opinion not mine and you gave it to me so...

WilsonHog

December 30, 2009, 11:03:36 pm #26
Quote from: Porkem Yung on December 30, 2009, 10:57:56 pm
I'm sick of people sugar-coating failure.  Razorback basketball is dead.  The Jeff Long's and the Pel-lovers...you've won.  I'm tired of debating you.
You won.  People that accept mediocrity and failure need to take a close
look at yourself in the mirror.  I hope you like what you see.




Let's suppose you and I get in a fight, and I get the best of it initially. I get you down on the ground, and 15 times in a row you try to get up...and 15 times in a row I stomp you in the face.

How long will it be before you decide, "Hmmm....this gettin' up deal ain't workin' so good for me. Maybe I'd better try something else."

Break & Run

December 30, 2009, 11:04:01 pm #27
Quote from: ErieHog on December 30, 2009, 10:59:49 pm
Why would he want to have success at Arkansas?  Maybe so he could get the Kentucky job one day;  maybe so he could continue  to earn a paycheck;  maybe so he could have the great treatment Arkansas fans are willing to give coaches who achieve.   Just about every possible rational reason, really.

That 'bad' Indiana team, by the way, featured 2 NBA regulars, and should have won the Big Ten title.    If only Stan had the good fortune to not run into those buzzsaws like Bucknell,  or if Nolan hadn't quit coaching four years before he was fired,  they might have lucked into similar achievements.



This, my friend, is what Porkem Yung means by sugar-coating failure....
Quote from: Michael BernalWhat's your favorite Arkansas tradition?
"I can't be cliché and say 'Call the Hogs,' but I think I have to.  That's just something that sets our university apart.  When you're out on the field and everyone in the stadium stands up, it's amazing.  Even when we're at a football or basketball game, just to see that many people around you doing the same thing for you when you're on the field or for the other guys who are playing, it's pretty awesome."

The Hogfather

December 30, 2009, 11:04:15 pm #28
Quote from: THE BAND GEEK on December 30, 2009, 10:57:09 pm
Why would he want to have success at Arkansas when he despised them when he was a player at Kentucky??

HOLY $H*#.  Are you kidding me?  These are the types of people we have making evaluations of our coach?  Really?  I just hope you aren't Jeff Long....or anyone who makes any sort of decision that could effect me in any way.

Break & Run

December 30, 2009, 11:10:17 pm #29
Quote from: The Hogfather on December 30, 2009, 11:04:15 pm
HOLY $H*#.  Are you kidding me?  These are the types of people we have making evaluations of our coach?  Really?  I just hope you aren't Jeff Long....or anyone who makes any sort of decision that could effect me in any way.
You're just another fan that doesn't mind failure I guess.  Anyone can tell Pel just doesn't want to have success or he'd be doing something about this team...AND HE'S NOT.
Quote from: Michael BernalWhat's your favorite Arkansas tradition?
"I can't be cliché and say 'Call the Hogs,' but I think I have to.  That's just something that sets our university apart.  When you're out on the field and everyone in the stadium stands up, it's amazing.  Even when we're at a football or basketball game, just to see that many people around you doing the same thing for you when you're on the field or for the other guys who are playing, it's pretty awesome."

chiefhawg

December 30, 2009, 11:11:06 pm #30
Wilson,

You are making way too much sense.


ErieHog

December 30, 2009, 11:11:32 pm #31
Quote from: THE BAND GEEK on December 30, 2009, 11:10:17 pm
You're just another fan that doesn't mind failure I guess.  Anyone can tell Pel just doesn't want to have success or he'd be doing something about this team...AND HE'S NOT.

No cause, ever, in the history of all mankind, has produced more cold-blooded tyrants, more slaughtered innocents, and more orphans than socialism with power. It surpassed, exponentially, all other systems of production in turning out the dead. The bodies are all around us. And here is the problem: No one talks about them. No one honors them. No one does penance for them. No one has committed suicide for having been an apologist for those who did this to them. No one pays for them. No one is hunted down to account for them. It is exactly what Solzhenitsyn foresaw in The Gulag Archipelago: "No, no one would have to answer. No one would be looked into." Until that happens, there is no "after socialism."

RazorWire™

December 30, 2009, 11:11:57 pm #32
Quote from: ErieHog on December 30, 2009, 10:48:38 pm
Instant gratification or instant indignation are the only two flavors people recognize, Wilson.

That and once we thought Fortson and Washington weren't playing we took Baylor at -4 for a quick 25

PetrinoFan

December 30, 2009, 11:14:09 pm #33
I love our hogs, but watching our guys the way they got beat and not having much depth, talent, and having a coach that can't coach a lick, nor recruit worth a lick... makes me so sick, I'll end up in the hospital if I keep watching us lose, i'll end up with a stroke or some sort.  It just gets me so riled up at home. Puts me in a horrible mood and I just can't stand it.  No wonder everyone else wakes up with a hangover the next morning.

WilsonHog

December 30, 2009, 11:17:51 pm #34
Quote from: PetrinoFan on December 30, 2009, 11:14:09 pm
It just gets me so riled up at home. Puts me in a horrible mood and I just can't stand it.  No wonder everyone else wakes up with a hangover the next morning.

I once got that way too, back when I thought we had a chance to win on a pretty routine basis.

Now that I don't, I find that losing doesn't bother me as much. I'm no more upset now than I would be if we hadn't even played. 

Break & Run

December 30, 2009, 11:20:21 pm #35
Quote from: WilsonHog on December 30, 2009, 11:17:51 pm
I once got that way too, back when I thought we had a chance to win on a pretty routine basis.

Now that I don't, I find that losing doesn't bother me as much. I'm no more upset now than I would be if we hadn't even played. 

These kind of reactions by fans is the reason that our basketball program is done with.  They don't mind losing anymore so they don't have any reactions to it anymore.....which is down right degrading to the U of A.
Quote from: Michael BernalWhat's your favorite Arkansas tradition?
"I can't be cliché and say 'Call the Hogs,' but I think I have to.  That's just something that sets our university apart.  When you're out on the field and everyone in the stadium stands up, it's amazing.  Even when we're at a football or basketball game, just to see that many people around you doing the same thing for you when you're on the field or for the other guys who are playing, it's pretty awesome."

The Hogfather

December 30, 2009, 11:22:10 pm #36
Quote from: THE BAND GEEK on December 30, 2009, 11:20:21 pm
These kind of reactions by fans is the reason that our basketball program is done with.  They don't mind losing anymore so they don't have any reactions to it anymore.....which is down right degrading to the U of A.



Our program is done!  Never to rise from the ashes again!

WilsonHog

December 30, 2009, 11:22:13 pm #37
Quote from: THE BAND GEEK on December 30, 2009, 11:20:21 pm
These kind of reactions by fans is the reason that our basketball program is done with.  They don't mind losing anymore so they don't have any reactions to it anymore.....which is down right degrading to the U of A.

Then you tell me right now what I can do to change it. Tell me what you're going to do.

Tell you what big guy...I'll write my check to the Foundation for $50,000 right after you do. You game? 

Break & Run

December 30, 2009, 11:31:32 pm #38
WELL HELL then WilsonHog, when everyone was few up with HDN, they didn't sit around!  They went out and got him out of here.  I know, Pel's not the cheating, lying, degrading SOB that TCTWF is but surely the fans can make a statement about the disapproval.  You would think that if only 4000 show up for the Texas game, then MAYBE just MAYBE Jeff Long would realize.....Pel was Broyle's last big hire.  O how everyone was like Broyles will be remember for this great hire!  Now, he's going to be known as the AD that hired the coach that drove the program into the ground....
Quote from: Michael BernalWhat's your favorite Arkansas tradition?
"I can't be cliché and say 'Call the Hogs,' but I think I have to.  That's just something that sets our university apart.  When you're out on the field and everyone in the stadium stands up, it's amazing.  Even when we're at a football or basketball game, just to see that many people around you doing the same thing for you when you're on the field or for the other guys who are playing, it's pretty awesome."

The Hogfather

December 30, 2009, 11:35:37 pm #39
Quote from: THE BAND GEEK on December 30, 2009, 11:31:32 pm
WELL HELL then WilsonHog, when everyone was few up with HDN, they didn't sit around!  They went out and got him out of here.  I know, Pel's not the cheating, lying, degrading SOB that TCTWF is but surely the fans can make a statement about the disapproval.  You would think that if only 4000 show up for the Texas game, then MAYBE just MAYBE Jeff Long would realize.....Pel was Broyle's last big hire.  O how everyone was like Broyles will be remember for this great hire!  Now, he's going to be known as the AD that hired the coach that drove the program into the ground....

You show how little you know about anything other that World of Warcraft everytime you type a new post.  Good job!

p.s.  You might want to keep these types of pictures of you off the internets...

Break & Run

December 30, 2009, 11:39:17 pm #40
Quote from: The Hogfather on December 30, 2009, 11:35:37 pm
You show how little you know about anything other that World of Warcraft everytime you type a new post.  Good job!

p.s.  You might want to keep these types of pictures of you off the internets...


I've never even PLAYED World of Warcraft you doof.  How was that showing anything?  it was ALL the blatant truth.  When ppl got tired of Nutt, he had stuff dug up on him that got him forced out...go figure. moron.
Quote from: Michael BernalWhat's your favorite Arkansas tradition?
"I can't be cliché and say 'Call the Hogs,' but I think I have to.  That's just something that sets our university apart.  When you're out on the field and everyone in the stadium stands up, it's amazing.  Even when we're at a football or basketball game, just to see that many people around you doing the same thing for you when you're on the field or for the other guys who are playing, it's pretty awesome."

WilsonHog

December 30, 2009, 11:40:23 pm #41 Last Edit: December 30, 2009, 11:56:58 pm by WilsonHog
Quote from: THE BAND GEEK on December 30, 2009, 11:31:32 pm
WELL HELL then WilsonHog, when everyone was few up with HDN, they didn't sit around!  They went out and got him out of here.  I know, Pel's not the cheating, lying, degrading SOB that TCTWF is but surely the fans can make a statement about the disapproval.  You would think that if only 4000 show up for the Texas game, then MAYBE just MAYBE Jeff Long would realize.....Pel was Broyle's last big hire.  O how everyone was like Broyles will be remember for this great hire!  Now, he's going to be known as the AD that hired the coach that drove the program into the ground....

Let me see if I can explain this where you can understand it.

This is a matter of economics (if you haven't had that course yet, some high schools offer it. You might want to consider taking it).

But I digress. This is a matter of economics. It isn't like everyone who is in a position of authority is sitting around thinking John Pelphrey will be the second coming of Rick Pitino if we just give him time. It isn't like they enjoy seeing us get humbled by Baylor. We can average 6,000 fans a game for the rest of the season, and it will not matter one iota unless those men who can do so decide to write checks large enough to buy out John Pelphrey's contract.

If you aren't one of those guys, I'm afraid you're going to be limited to ranting on the internet...which will do absolutely nothing to achieve the result you want.

(BTW, the fact that Nutt left was forced out and left with $3 million of our money is part of the reason Pelphrey's situation is about economics now.)

Oliver

December 30, 2009, 11:42:57 pm #42
Quote from: WilsonHog on December 30, 2009, 11:40:23 pm
Let me see if I can explain this where you can understand it.

This is a matter of economics (if you haven't had that course yet, some high schools offer it. You might want to consider taking it).

But I digress. This is a matter oe economics. It isn't like everyone who is in a position of authority is sitting around thinking John Pelphrey will be the second coming of Rick Pitino if we just give him time. We can average 6,000 fans a game for the rest of the season, and it will not matter one iota unless those men who can decide to write checks large enough to buy out John Pelphrey's contract.

If you aren't one of those guys, I'm afraid you're going to be limited to ranting on the internet...which will do absolutely nothing to achieve the result you want.

Care to join me in locking a basketball player in an "electrical room"?  It could hasten the progress.

Break & Run

December 30, 2009, 11:51:30 pm #43
Quote from: Oliver Miller on December 30, 2009, 11:42:57 pm
Care to join me in locking a basketball player in an "electrical room"?  It could hasten the progress.
EWW!! EWW!!! I DOOOOOOO!!!!!! That'll work.......but, we don't have any players that are espn analyst's children.. =((
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TomasPistola

December 31, 2009, 12:32:00 am #44
Quote from: THE BAND GEEK on December 30, 2009, 11:31:32 pm
WELL HELL then WilsonHog, when everyone was few up with HDN, they didn't sit around!  They went out and got him out of here.  I know, Pel's not the cheating, lying, degrading SOB that TCTWF is but surely the fans can make a statement about the disapproval.  You would think that if only 4000 show up for the Texas game, then MAYBE just MAYBE Jeff Long would realize.....Pel was Broyle's last big hire.  O how everyone was like Broyles will be remember for this great hire!  Now, he's going to be known as the AD that hired the coach that drove the program into the ground....

If you think the fans really had anything to do with Nutt leaving you are out of your mind. He saw an opportunity at Ole Miss with talent from Coach O's hard work and knew he could make a payday and get a longer leash than he would have here with Broyles out.
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dagnamit

December 31, 2009, 08:29:48 am #45
Quote from: Oliver Miller on December 30, 2009, 11:42:57 pm
Care to join me in locking a basketball player in an "electrical room"?  It could hasten the progress.
Just put a blow up doll in there and have the camera's ready to go. Might get rid of a whole team.

Modsquad24

December 31, 2009, 08:43:26 am #46
what cracks me up is everyone says people just want instant gratification, its been 78 games, this is yr 3 and other coaches have righted the ship atleast to a respectability level by their 3rd year, which we arent even at that level and lastly I love how people act like its a gurantee we are gonna be better in the future(theres no proof of this)

btw, sure we got a good class coming in on paper, but so were all these guys here, we are the Notre Dame of basketball

thirtythree

December 31, 2009, 10:03:43 am #47
Quote from: Modsquad24 on December 31, 2009, 08:43:26 am
what cracks me up is everyone says people just want instant gratification, its been 78 games, this is yr 3 and other coaches have righted the ship atleast to a respectability level by their 3rd year, which we arent even at that level and lastly I love how people act like its a gurantee we are gonna be better in the future(theres no proof of this)

btw, sure we got a good class coming in on paper, but so were all these guys here, we are the Notre Dame of basketball

We aren't everybody else. Everybody else don't have the same problems we have no matter whos fault it is.

hawgtime

December 31, 2009, 10:05:10 am #48
Quote from: WilsonHog on December 30, 2009, 10:49:57 pm
Acceptance.

I watched the first half, and my general thought pattern was that we were playing fairly well for what we have - but at no point did it enter my mind that we would win. And then as the second half pretty much confirmed what I thought would happen all along (i.e. we would lose by 15-20 points, I simply watched happen what I thought would happen. No surprise, no upset.

We're gonna play Texas in a few days, and we're probably gonna get beat pretty handily. I have no illusions, no expectations that we're gonna beat the Horns, so I'll watch it with that frame of mind.   


me too... i hate that feeling.

ErieHog

December 31, 2009, 11:14:23 am #49
Quote from: Modsquad24 on December 31, 2009, 08:43:26 am
what cracks me up is everyone says people just want instant gratification, its been 78 games, this is yr 3 and other coaches have righted the ship atleast to a respectability level by their 3rd year, which we arent even at that level and lastly I love how people act like its a gurantee we are gonna be better in the future(theres no proof of this)

btw, sure we got a good class coming in on paper, but so were all these guys here, we are the Notre Dame of basketball

We've had respectability;  we've even been good.

Our struggles have *entirely* been limited to a period of only 37 games.    A standard rebuild from the ground up is going to take at least twice that long.
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