Long is out

[hog of steele]

Sad day. I thought he was a good AD. I wonder if he did dig in on CBB?

Life goes on.

[Hou-Hog]

Termination letter.

very surprised that we are going to pay the remainder of his contract. There must be something that caused the firing now vs. a month ago or a month from now. 

[Pig in the Pokey]

The only thing I am going to miss is all the indignant talk about how deranged we peons were to even hint that Long may be gone.  Fantasies...delusions...we were all accused of mental deficiencies by the "realistic" people who hover above the fray, reminding us all of why they know how it all works and we only drag knuckles and wonder.

CHEERS, Mate!! Feels good, doesn't it?

[DeltaBoy]

Dang it a day later and I am still happy about the Moves on the Hill. Woo Pig.

[Tony Perkis]

Dang it a day later and I am still happy about the Moves on the Hill. Woo Pig.

I was a little more pleasant to be around this morning. Even made my fiancé coffee...told her not to get used to it.

[EastexHawg]

his fate was locked when he fired CBP 6 years ago

I don't know about his, but our football program's fate was sealed.  We'll see if we can dig out of the hole within a decade, as in from the end of the 2011 season to January 1, 2022.  So far we have lost six years that we'll never get back.

[DeltaBoy]

We will get better.

[DLUXHOG]

This was such stupid, stupid, stupid move by the BOT.....   stupid....

[Ironhawg]

This was such stupid, stupid, stupid move by the BOT.....   stupid....

I'm having a really, really, really hard time disagreeing with this.  The only way this is not a colossal error in judgement is if they already have their AD selection in hand.  If that is the case, the announcement needs to happen quickly to make it public knowledge they actually have a plan.

[jabberjawls]

This was a great, great, great move by the BOT.  I just wish it hadn't taken so long.

[Cotton]

Long had writing on the wall the moment he pi$$ed off Tyson.

[Ex-Trumpet]

This was such stupid, stupid, stupid move by the BOT.....   stupid....

This was a great, great, great move by the BOT.  I just wish it hadn't taken so long.

Anyone forming an opinion either way doesn't have all the facts.  Maybe no facts at all.  We can only speculate.

Unless, of course, BOT members are actually posting here.

[ThundrHawg]

I'm really having a hard time understanding the excitement about Long being fired. By all reports, the big money guys behind the scenes are the ones riding him out of town, which basically means a return to how things were run before he got here. Could someone please link me the great results this has brought us in the modern era of football? Or explain to me how the folks that brought us the firing of Nolan, Stan Heath, Pelphrey, can make good decisions for the basketball program? These people are good at writing fat checks, not running a major athletic program. Everyone says all Long did was build a lot of stuff on campus. Those facilities were essential to staying on par with the rest of the SEC and no one can say for certain it would have happened without him. I can't see this ending well at all.

[hoghearted]

If Long was unwilling to make a change at the HC position, which is desperately needed, then he needed terminating. The football program is in bad shape, and leaving BB at the helm will not make it better.

[hawgon]

I'm really having a hard time understanding the excitement about Long being fired. By all reports, the big money guys behind the scenes are the ones riding him out of town, which basically means a return to how things were run before he got here. Could someone please link me the great results this has brought us in the modern era of football? Or explain to me how the folks that brought us the firing of Nolan, Stan Heath, Pelphrey, can make good decisions for the basketball program? These people are good at writing fat checks, not running a major athletic program. Everyone says all Long did was build a lot of stuff on campus. Those facilities were essential to staying on par with the rest of the SEC and no one can say for certain it would have happened without him. I can't see this ending well at all.

I'm not going to argue with you that all that stuff isn't great.  It is.  It's wonderful.  But what did it get us?  Have we been very successful in our two main sports?  Is our basketball program better than Duke's because they play in a crap hole?  Is our football better than any number of teams who don't have stadiums as nice as we do?

Facilities are a means to an end not an end in themselves.  If you aren't winning, they literally aren't worth the money and effort.

[ThundrHawg]

If Long was unwilling to make a change at the HC position, which is desperately needed, then he needed terminating. The football program is in bad shape, and leaving BB at the helm will not make it better.

I agree, but most of the accounts I've read were that it was a power play by the money guys and not because he refused to fire Bielema, they just used the football results as an excuse to seize the throne. If he did actually refuse to fire him, then that would be a different story.

[factchecker]

Facilities are a means to an end not an end in themselves.  If you aren't winning, they literally aren't worth the money and effort.

I understand your stance but I view facilities as an investment.

Facilities will be here long after the AD and coach are gone.

The improvements benefit the fans and players (locker room) for years to come.

I'd rather my donation go to student athlete support and facilities than AD and coaching salaries.

[GoHogs1091]

Long had writing on the wall the moment he pi$$ed off Tyson.

Very plausible. 

The selection of Robert Petrino instead of Butch Davis may have sealed Long's fate.

[hawgon]

Very plausible. 

The selection of Robert Petrino instead of Butch Davis may have sealed Long's fate.

Nope, if it is because we didn't hire BD, then it is because we could have had him instead of JLS and Bielema.

[Cotton]

I understand your stance but I view facilities as an investment.

Facilities will be here long after the AD and coach are gone.

The improvements benefit the fans and players (locker room) for years to come.

I'd rather my donation go to student athlete support and facilities than AD and coaching salaries.

Facilities don't breed success.

Success breeds facilities.

[hoglady]

Nope, if it is because we didn’t hire BD, then it is because we could have had him instead of JLS and Bielema.

It's actually sickening to think of where the program might be if Long could have brought in BD at that time. Instead you bring in JLS who's in the middle of a personal financial crisis. Bad decision.

[Been10Hog]

It's actually sickening to think of where the program might be if Long could have brought in BD at that time. Instead you bring in JLS who's in the middle of a personal financial crisis. Bad decision.

I think the idea was to not screw up a good situation. Obviously it didn't work, but JLS had been on staff, all the assistants were kept, should have worked like the Cowboys did when they fired JJ and brought in Barry Switzer. Problem is Barry was just a figurehead and rah rah guy. Bobby had been the actual play caller, not Paul Petrino

[Hogwild]

I'm really having a hard time understanding the excitement about Long being fired. By all reports, the big money guys behind the scenes are the ones riding him out of town, which basically means a return to how things were run before he got here. Could someone please link me the great results this has brought us in the modern era of football? Or explain to me how the folks that brought us the firing of Nolan, Stan Heath, Pelphrey, can make good decisions for the basketball program? These people are good at writing fat checks, not running a major athletic program. Everyone says all Long did was build a lot of stuff on campus. Those facilities were essential to staying on par with the rest of the SEC and no one can say for certain it would have happened without him. I can't see this ending well at all.

Long was here for ten years, in that time we didn't have a winning conference record in either basketball or football.  It really can't get much worse than that.

[OtterHog]

Long was here for ten years, in that time we didn't have a winning conference record in either basketball or football.  It really can't get much worse than that.

2010, 2011, and 2015 we had winning records in SEC play for football.

2007-08, 2012-13, 2013-14, 2014-15, and 2016-17 we had winning records in SEC play for basketball.

Maybe you were just trolling, but wew lad.

[Cotton]

Long was here for ten years, in that time we didn't have a winning conference record in either basketball or football.  It really can't get much worse than that.

Confirmed. We've reached the point in the thread where people just make outlandish false claims.

[Hogwild]

2010, 2011, and 2015 we had winning records in SEC play for football.

2007-08, 2012-13, 2013-14, 2014-15, and 2016-17 we had winning records in SEC play for basketball.

Maybe you were just trolling, but wew lad.

Overall marks, while Long was AD (10 years), neither the basketball or football teams won more games than we lost in conference play.

[AlmaHog2011]

What a great day to be a Razorback! Go get an AD that is better than Long and hopefully he will know where Arkansas is on a map.