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DoctorSusscrofa

Quote from: RyanMallettsEgo on September 18, 2017, 10:25:49 am
It's almost as if the coaches know the team and players better than the posters here know the team and players...

No, that can't be right. This forum is filled with college football experts.

You'd be surprised how much division 1 coaching experience our posters have. Don't laugh at them. Theyre very experienced and they only post when they're not on the practice field with their position groups. /s
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Großer Kriegschwein

He rarely releases an accurate 2-deep.

However, Clary will start. He's gonna ride that rollercoaster until it derails.

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dhizzle

I think people are just confused that a kid that wasn't good enough to get a scholarship is now starting in front of three freshman that did get a scholarship. I for one am confused about it, we might have some talent judgement miscues.

AirWarren

Quote from: Großer Kriegschwein on September 18, 2017, 11:08:46 am
He rarely releases an accurate 2-deep.

However, Clary will start. He's gonna ride that rollercoaster until it derails.

Until it derails  haha. Half the train is off the track.


Makes we wonder. With clary being an "local kid", I wonder who his parents "know or are connected to". 

HawgTrough

Quote from: tusked on September 18, 2017, 10:36:33 am
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Dominicanhog

Quote from: DoctorSusscrofa on September 18, 2017, 11:08:30 am
You'd be surprised how much division 1 coaching experience our posters have. Don't laugh at them. Theyre very experienced and they only post when they're not on the practice field with their position groups. /s

Maybe 3-7 in your last 10 P5 games has people thinking they know more than the coaches....

DoctorSusscrofa

Quote from: KlubhouseKonnected on September 18, 2017, 10:43:42 am
CJ just happens to be better at the one phase of the game we were pretty completely devoid of against TCU.

Position on the depth chart doesn't mean CJ won't play.

Sheesh! Some posts on here are just plain ridiculous.
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PorkRinds

Quote from: dhizzle on September 18, 2017, 11:09:24 am
I think people are just confused that a kid that wasn't good enough to get a scholarship is now starting in front of three freshman that did get a scholarship. I for one am confused about it, we might have some talent judgement miscues.

He is promised a scholarship starting in January. So your assessment is off.

DoctorSusscrofa

Quote from: Dominicanhog on September 18, 2017, 11:11:39 am
Maybe 3-7 in your last 10 P5 games has people thinking they know more than the coaches....

If they do know more than a D1 university coaching staff, then coach somewhere in D1 and prove it.
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GuvHog

Quote from: dhizzle on September 18, 2017, 11:09:24 am
I think people are just confused that a kid that wasn't good enough to get a scholarship is now starting in front of three freshman that did get a scholarship. I for one am confused about it, we might have some talent judgement miscues.

It takes more than just being a scholarship player to be a starter. A scholarship player still has to EARN the position. Obviously some on here haven't figured that out.    ::) ::)
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HawgTrough

Cole Kelley is our backup punter? Interesting
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forrest city joe

I see nothing changed other than the replacing the PK.i hate to say this because i like the man.but him being stubborn is going to get him fired.that OL line up is not good.in fact it is terrible in my opinion. Gibson is not a tackle.Ty is not ready right now. and C.Jackson is not very good.yet he made no changes during the 2 weeks. that is just being flat out stubborn.it got Les fired at Lsu. and it may well get coach B fired here.

Dominicanhog

Quote from: DoctorSusscrofa on September 18, 2017, 11:15:15 am
If they do know more than a D1 university coaching staff, then coach somewhere in D1 and prove it.

didn't say they did know more, only what may be causing them to think so...

 

dhizzle

Quote from: GuvHog on September 18, 2017, 11:16:14 am
It takes more than just being a scholarship player to be a starter. A scholarship player still has to EARN the position. Obviously some on here haven't figured that out.    ::) ::)

You're right the position should be earned. However I don't think Froholt earned the position last year. That was just ego and stubbornness by a coach. They gave him every chance to get better and he has. Now my question is why haven't the older offensive lineman been granted the same time to get better. Coach says he can only go by what he sees in practice, well at some point you have to go by what you see in a game. 

VirginiaHog

I wish people would stop with the Clary comments. He has played very well. Just because he was way under recruited does not mean he is not that good.

onebadrubi

Quote from: AP85 on September 18, 2017, 11:10:20 am
Until it derails  haha. Half the train is off the track.


Makes we wonder. With clary being an "local kid", I wonder who his parents "know or are connected to".

I'm shocked it's taken this long for an idiot to post something like this.

PorkRinds

Quote from: forrest city joe on September 18, 2017, 11:21:16 am
I see nothing changed other than the replacing the PK.i hate to say this because i like the man.but him being stubborn is going to get him fired.that OL line up is not good.in fact it is terrible in my opinion. Gibson is not a tackle.Ty is not ready right now. and C.Jackson is not very good.yet he made no changes during the 2 weeks. that is just being flat out stubborn.it got Les fired at Lsu. and it may well get coach B fired here.

It hasn't been two weeks, it's been a week. And even if there were big changes he's likely not going to drop them by a depth chart release. They'll be game day decisions that ATM hasn't had a chance to plan for yet.

SemperHawg

Quote from: JaketheSnake on September 18, 2017, 10:23:32 am
Cantrell is the better blocker and is a decent pass catcher.  Cheyenne is more of a pass catcher.
He made a great catch 2 yards out of bounds in the back of the end zone against TCU

Dominicanhog

Quote from: PorkRinds on September 18, 2017, 11:49:12 am
It hasn't been two weeks, it's been a week. And even if there were big changes he's likely not going to drop them by a depth chart release. They'll be game day decisions that ATM hasn't had a chance to plan for yet.

Yeah, guess he had to show the kicker change since he broadcast it during his presser...

HawgTrough

Quote from: SemperHawg on September 18, 2017, 11:52:11 am
He made a great catch 2 yards out of bounds in the back of the end zone against TCU

Gotta place some of the blame on the grounds crew
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SemperHawg

Quote from: VirginiaHog on September 18, 2017, 11:46:49 am
I wish people would stop with the Clary comments. He has played very well. Just because he was way under recruited does not mean he is not that good.
There is not one other team in the SEC starting a True Freshman walk on.... think about that... not one.  The Ty Cleary comments have nothing to do with the kid and everything to do with how woefully pathetic recruiting and evaluation had to be to even get to this point.

b_stackhouse

Quote from: AP85 on September 18, 2017, 11:10:20 am
Until it derails  haha. Half the train is off the track.


Makes we wonder. With clary being an "local kid", I wonder who his parents "know or are connected to".

Good grief. This isn't USSSA travel baseball. Playing decisions aren't based on connections or who you know.

forrest city joe

Quote from: dhizzle on September 18, 2017, 11:39:57 am
You're right the position should be earned. However I don't think Froholt earned the position last year. That was just ego and stubbornness by a coach. They gave him every chance to get better and he has. Now my question is why haven't the older offensive lineman been granted the same time to get better. Coach says he can only go by what he sees in practice, well at some point you have to go by what you see in a game. 
Froholt was given that job last year.he did not earn it.they better realize playing favs will get them fired if it does work. and based on the first 2 games,it is not working.it's terrible.

GuvHog

Quote from: SemperHawg on September 18, 2017, 11:57:29 am
There is not one other team in the SEC starting a True Freshman walk on.... think about that... not one.  The Ty Cleary comments have nothing to do with the kid and everything to do with how woefully pathetic recruiting and evaluation had to be to even get to this point.

No, it has more to do with the fact that many of those 4* O-Lineman were recruited to be road graders in a run first power offense but now that Enos wants O-Linemen that are quicker and can pull for passing, those road graders are like Ducks out of water.
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rzrbackramsfan

Quote from: Marshfieldhog on September 18, 2017, 10:47:23 am
Sweet! I needed me some more Deon Stewart as KO returner.

Doesn't look like many changes minus kicker. Going down with the ship I guess.

I audibly laughed out loud.

rzrbackramsfan

Quote from: SemperHawg on September 18, 2017, 11:52:11 am
He made a great catch 2 yards out of bounds in the back of the end zone against TCU

Some more gold.

WilsonHog

If an upperclassman, who is more experienced and perhaps more stronger (I don't have lift numbers on which to base an intelligent opinion), is running second team, why might that be?

Does it have to do with difficulty getting the O-line calls and assignments down?

Is it a lack of flexibility? A lack of quickness and agility to make what Enos wants to run work?

forrest city joe

Quote from: GuvHog on September 18, 2017, 12:07:16 pm
No, it has more to do with the fact that many of those 4* O-Lineman were recruited to be road graders in a run first power offense but now that Enos wants O-Linemen that are quicker and can pull for passing, those road graders are like Ducks out of water.
Enos is not the head coach.coach B is the one who should have the final say on these decisions. no other team in the sec has 2 walk on's starting in their OL. this speaks volumes.

Kevin

Quote from: forrest city joe on September 18, 2017, 12:27:42 pm
Enos is not the head coach.coach B is the one who should have the final say on these decisions. no other team in the sec has 2 walk in starting in their OL. this speaks volumes.

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Quote from: AP85 on September 18, 2017, 11:10:20 am
Until it derails  haha. Half the train is off the track.


Makes we wonder. With clary being an "local kid", I wonder who his parents "know or are connected to".

yeah, his dad played soccer at John Brown

HUGE connections there

forrest city joe

Quote from: Kevin on September 18, 2017, 12:28:48 pm
the world is upside down, cause I agree with you

I can't believe it either. for once we agree.

GuvHog

Quote from: forrest city joe on September 18, 2017, 12:27:42 pm
Enos is not the head coach.coach B is the one who should have the final say on these decisions. no other team in the sec has 2 walk on's starting in their OL. this speaks volumes.

Arkansas doesn't have a walk on starting on the O-Line, they have 4 scholarship players and a Blue Shirt.
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ErieHog

This board is fantastic.

"Coach B only starts veterans.  Young guys never get reps."
*Inserts young guys*
"Our Veterans are either being short changed, or the coach is being stubborn,  or he's a terrible talent evaluator if these walk on guys are already the best option."

SMH.
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Kevin

no matter who the player is, playing a young walk on is never a good look for a coach
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rhames

Quote from: Kevin on September 18, 2017, 12:32:47 pm
no matter who the player is, playing a young walk on is never a good look for a coach


So even if the kid is the best option, don't play him because it looks bad?
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Quote from: Wildhog on September 18, 2017, 10:23:12 am
So no changes except for Hedlund being completely removed from the depth chart.
This is the depth chart summed up
That's right, you don't want to be the man to replace the man.  You want to be the man to replace Rory Segrest.

PorkRinds

What changes were everyone hoping to see?

GuvHog

Quote from: Kevin on September 18, 2017, 12:32:47 pm
no matter who the player is, playing a young walk on is never a good look for a coach

The late Mr. Burlsworth would disagree with you.
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Kevin

Quote from: rhames on September 18, 2017, 12:34:07 pm

So even if the kid is the best option, don't play him because it looks bad?

not making a judgement on whether he should play or not, it is just a bad look for any coach.
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hobhog

This isn't the NFL. Depth charts in college mean absolutely nothing. Matter of fact, why give opponents an accurate chart? Dork at Michigan makes a joke of his weekly depth chart....

Who cares?

Go Hogs. Beat the Aggies!

forrest city joe

Quote from: GuvHog on September 18, 2017, 12:31:34 pm
Arkansas doesn't have a walk on starting on the O-Line, they have 4 scholarship players and a Blue Shirt.
I know both Gibson and Clary are on scholarship now. one was a walk on.and one was a blue shirt.there was a reason for that? no other team in the sec has that on their line. nobody but Arkansas.i do not get it.

ricepig


Rudy Baylor

a blue shirt is not a walkon

a walkon is not a blue shirt

HognotinMemphis

Quote from: The_Iceman on September 18, 2017, 10:12:37 am
Let's hope Bielema comes to his senses and that is not the starting Offensive Line on Saturday.

A&M will line up their best DT right over Clary and bull rush him straight into the backfield every play. We will get no push running the ball.
So just like the TCU game, right?
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Wildhog

Quote from: Rudy Baylor on September 18, 2017, 12:39:58 pm
a blue shirt is not a walkon

a walkon is not a blue shirt

A blue shirt is a walk-on until they go on scholarship. 

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PorkRinds

Quote from: Kevin on September 18, 2017, 12:36:55 pm
not making a judgement on whether he should play or not, it is just a bad look for any coach.

In the real world, this is not true.

HognotinMemphis

Quote from: Uncle Remus on September 18, 2017, 10:23:37 am
Notice Cole Hedlund has been completely removed from existence....such a juvenile!  :P
Didn't you read in the paper that Bielema said he called Hedlund in on Sunday and checked on his personal well being? He cares about this player. He just cannot use him.
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PorkRinds

Quote from: forrest city joe on September 18, 2017, 12:37:33 pm
I know both Gibson and Clary are on scholarship now. one was a walk on.and one was a blue shirt.there was a reason for that? no other team in the sec has that on their line. nobody but Arkansas.i do not get it.

I can finally agree. You do not get it.

ErieHog

Quote from: PorkRinds on September 18, 2017, 12:36:12 pm
What changes were everyone hoping to see?

The  'Oh Noes, Do Something!'  mindset is pervasive.
No cause, ever, in the history of all mankind, has produced more cold-blooded tyrants, more slaughtered innocents, and more orphans than socialism with power. It surpassed, exponentially, all other systems of production in turning out the dead. The bodies are all around us. And here is the problem: No one talks about them. No one honors them. No one does penance for them. No one has committed suicide for having been an apologist for those who did this to them. No one pays for them. No one is hunted down to account for them. It is exactly what Solzhenitsyn foresaw in The Gulag Archipelago: "No, no one would have to answer. No one would be looked into." Until that happens, there is no "after socialism."

Kevin

Quote from: forrest city joe on September 18, 2017, 12:37:33 pm
I know both Gibson and Clary are on scholarship now. one was a walk on.and one was a blue shirt.there was a reason for that? no other team in the sec has that on their line. nobody but Arkansas.o do not get it.

don't forget a former d-lineman is starting as well

out of 5 positions
former walk on
current freshman walk on, receiving a scholarship in January
former d lineman

find that on another p5 teams depth chart
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