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Kevin

January 17, 2017, 10:56:09 am
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RazorPiggie

January 17, 2017, 11:43:35 am #1
DB coach? Not sure. Someone young and energetic.
 

Tim Harris

January 17, 2017, 11:51:40 am #2

WriterWrong

January 17, 2017, 11:52:05 am #3
Quote from: RazorPiggie on January 17, 2017, 11:43:35 am
DB coach? Not sure. Someone young and energetic.

If Aaron Henry hadn't just taken a job at NC State, could've been him.

Kevin

January 17, 2017, 11:52:19 am #4
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WriterWrong

January 17, 2017, 11:53:02 am #5
Quote from: Tim Harris on January 17, 2017, 11:51:40 am


Not a hire CBB could make that I would dislike more.

hogsrule44

January 17, 2017, 12:01:50 pm #6
Quote from: Tim Harris on January 17, 2017, 11:51:40 am


I doubt he would leave ASU when he coaches his son who is a senior and his daughter is a freshman on the basketball team.

Tim Harris

January 17, 2017, 12:02:10 pm #7
Quote from: WriterWrong on January 17, 2017, 11:53:02 am
Not a hire CBB could make that I would dislike more.

Worse than this hire?

Pork Twain

January 17, 2017, 12:04:58 pm #8
I think we are going to have to wait and see who CRS 'steals' from us.  Please...please...please...don't be our DL coach.  :)
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East TN HAWG

January 17, 2017, 12:06:34 pm #9
Quote from: Pork Twain on January 17, 2017, 12:04:58 pm
I think we are going to have to wait and see who CRS 'steals' from us.  Please...please...please...don't be our DL coach.  :)

LOL.  Or LB coach.  Please don't take these guys from us.  What would we do? 

King Kong

January 17, 2017, 12:08:46 pm #10
Quote from: Tim Harris on January 17, 2017, 12:02:10 pm
Worse than this hire?



Would be a great hire with his success in the NFL running the 3-4

Smalltownhog95

January 17, 2017, 01:12:22 pm #11
Maybe Paul keeps coaching the DB's and we hire a ST coordinator? I don't expect it to happen but it'd be nice.
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The_Bionic_Pig

January 17, 2017, 01:16:57 pm #12
Maybe we replace Hargreaves also
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King Kong

January 17, 2017, 01:31:54 pm #13
Quote from: Smalltownhog95 on January 17, 2017, 01:12:22 pm
Maybe Paul keeps coaching the DB's and we hire a ST coordinator? I don't expect it to happen but it'd be nice.

More likely to be our 10th coach IMO

Scott7703

January 17, 2017, 01:41:08 pm #14
Quote from: Kevin on January 17, 2017, 11:52:19 am
no way


I'd take him in a heartbeat. 

rzrbackramsfan

January 17, 2017, 01:44:50 pm #15
Kansas State's DB coach please. 

The_Bionic_Pig

January 17, 2017, 01:49:45 pm #16
Quote from: rzrbackramsfan on January 17, 2017, 01:44:50 pm
Kansas State's DB coach please. 

Tom Hayes is also the Defensive Coordinator
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Tim Harris

January 17, 2017, 01:50:28 pm #17
GoHogs90210 should be along shortly with a list of people we should target.

Dominicanhog

January 17, 2017, 02:27:41 pm #18
Quote from: The_Bionic_Pig on January 17, 2017, 01:16:57 pm
Maybe we replace Hargreaves also

EC has OLB experience..... come in handy in the 3-4...

lilRockNDubb

January 17, 2017, 02:45:13 pm #19
Quote from: King Kong on January 17, 2017, 01:31:54 pm
More likely to be our 10th coach IMO

The 10th coach wouldn't be available until at least summer. The chancellors and presidents have to vote and they don't vote on it until April.

AUSTXHOG

January 17, 2017, 03:01:15 pm #20
You think Chris Ball would leave Memphis DC position to fill a position on defense here?  He coached under Rhoads at Pitt.

King Kong

January 17, 2017, 03:03:00 pm #21
Quote from: lilRockNDubb on January 17, 2017, 02:45:13 pm
The 10th coach wouldn't be available until at least summer. The chancellors and presidents have to vote and they don't vote on it until April.

Exactly, Which is why it will probably go to as SP coach.

A SP Coach doesn't have to game plan or review opponents at the level a defensive assistant will. 15 to 20 player per game vs 70 with multiple keys off those plays.

Großer Kriegschwein

January 17, 2017, 03:09:45 pm #22
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lilRockNDubb

January 17, 2017, 03:31:39 pm #23
Quote from: King Kong on January 17, 2017, 03:03:00 pm
Exactly, Which is why it will probably go to as SP coach.

A SP Coach doesn't have to game plan or review opponents at the level a defensive assistant will. 15 to 20 player per game vs 70 with multiple keys off those plays.

The most sense would be Patridge. He's a DL/ST coach. You bring him in and on the books as the DE/ST coach.
Segrest can coach DTs and "specialists" until he finds another job. Then Partidge takes over.
Rhoads coaches entire secondary
Replace Hargreaves with someone such as Al Golden or Tony Grantham.
When the 10th coach kicks in Either a DB coach to help Rhoads or a Swiss Army knife like a Tuberville.. if Segrest leaves do both.
 

The_Bionic_Pig

January 17, 2017, 03:53:25 pm #24
Quote from: lilRockNDubb on January 17, 2017, 03:31:39 pm
The most sense would be Patridge. He's a DL/ST coach. You bring him in and on the books as the DE/ST coach.
Segrest can coach DTs and "specialists" until he finds another job. Then Partidge takes over.
Rhoads coaches entire secondary
Replace Hargreaves with someone such as Al Golden or Tony Grantham.
When the 10th coach kicks in Either a DB coach to help Rhoads or a Swiss Army knife like a Tuberville.. if Segrest leaves do both.

You sir are borderline GENIUS!! (that would be a awesome outcome)
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Hawg Life

January 17, 2017, 04:13:49 pm #25
Quote from: The_Bionic_Pig on January 17, 2017, 03:53:25 pm
You sir are borderline GENIUS!! (that would be a awesome outcome)

Al Golden's name was mentioned on pay boards when it was said that we were going to the 3-4.

The_Bionic_Pig

January 17, 2017, 04:19:53 pm #26
Al Golden - Co- Defensive Coordinator
Kerry Cooks - LB Coach
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King Kong

January 17, 2017, 04:20:18 pm #27
Quote from: lilRockNDubb on January 17, 2017, 03:31:39 pm
The most sense would be Patridge. He's a DL/ST coach. You bring him in and on the books as the DE/ST coach.
Segrest can coach DTs and "specialists" until he finds another job. Then Partidge takes over.
Rhoads coaches entire secondary
Replace Hargreaves with someone such as Al Golden or Tony Grantham.
When the 10th coach kicks in Either a DB coach to help Rhoads or a Swiss Army knife like a Tuberville.. if Segrest leaves do both.

I know previously CBB has said he doesn't like to split Dline coach. I would think that an OLB/SP coach would make more sense

lilRockNDubb

January 17, 2017, 04:23:36 pm #28
Quote from: Hawg Life on January 17, 2017, 04:13:49 pm
Al Golden's name was mentioned on pay boards when it was said that we were going to the 3-4.

Would help with the transition and more Florida recruiting.

ricepig

January 17, 2017, 04:30:41 pm #29
DL/Asst HC - Partridge
Co-DC - Erik Chinander
DB/Recruiting Co/ Co-Co DC - Crooks

lilRockNDubb

January 17, 2017, 04:35:26 pm #30
Quote from: King Kong on January 17, 2017, 04:20:18 pm
I know previously CBB has said he doesn't like to split Dline coach. I would think that an OLB/SP coach would make more sense

That would go with the Tony Grantham name. Switching to a 3 man front you'd only need 1 dline coach. Having Segrest just coaching the DTs would just be giving him a slight boot in the direction of the door.
But on the other hand it could also put 2 coaches focusing on the weakest part of the defense the past 2 years.

Tim Harris

January 17, 2017, 04:42:01 pm #31
Quote from: ricepig on January 17, 2017, 04:30:41 pm
DL/Asst HC - Partridge
Co-DC - Erik Chinander
DB/Recruiting Co/ Co-Co DC - Crooks


I'm guessing it is unlikely someone gets the Co-DC title.  May see an Asst. HC or Recruiting Co added to get someone some extra money though.

The_Bionic_Pig

January 17, 2017, 04:44:44 pm #32
Quote from: ricepig on January 17, 2017, 04:30:41 pm
DL/Asst HC - Partridge
Co-DC - Erik Chinander
DB/Recruiting Co/ Co-Co DC - Crooks


Those first (2) definitely have a connection to Coach BB
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ricepig

January 17, 2017, 04:46:11 pm #33
Quote from: Tim Harris on January 17, 2017, 04:42:01 pm
I'm guessing it is unlikely someone gets the Co-DC title.  May see an Asst. HC or Recruiting Co added to get someone some extra money though.

What's in a title? I remember I had a friend who worked at a bank, he was an Asst VP and got a promotion to Ex VP. I asked him if he got a raise, nope just a name change.

Hawgar The Horrible

January 17, 2017, 04:48:55 pm #34
There are fans and there are supporters. The latter carries the weight.

hobhog

January 17, 2017, 04:59:36 pm #35
Quote from: ricepig on January 17, 2017, 04:46:11 pm
What's in a title? I remember I had a friend who worked at a bank, he was an Asst VP and got a promotion to Ex VP. I asked him if he got a raise, nope just a name change.

I got burned on that thought earlier in my career. Bank was bought and they asked me to drop my title one slot but wouldn't drop my pay. Think I even got a raise. Year later bank sold again and my previous title was awarded double the stock options.

Go figure....

ricepig

January 17, 2017, 05:02:37 pm #36
Quote from: hobhog on January 17, 2017, 04:59:36 pm
I got burned on that thought earlier in my career. Bank was bought and they asked me to drop my title one slot but wouldn't drop my pay. Think I even got a raise. Year later bank sold again and my previous title was awarded double the stock options.

Go figure....

Reverse discrimination, lol.

Tim Harris

January 17, 2017, 06:07:09 pm #37
Quote from: ricepig on January 17, 2017, 04:46:11 pm
What's in a title? I remember I had a friend who worked at a bank, he was an Asst VP and got a promotion to Ex VP. I asked him if he got a raise, nope just a name change.

Most of the time I would say it is no big deal because those added titles are just about getting some more money.  After the last few years our defense needs an identity and you can't have that with multiple people carrying around the coordinator title.

Oklahawg

January 17, 2017, 07:21:11 pm #38
Quote from: Tim Harris on January 17, 2017, 06:07:09 pm
Most of the time I would say it is no big deal because those added titles are just about getting some more money.  After the last few years our defense needs an identity and you can't have that with multiple people carrying around the coordinator title.

I bet Rhoads has a heavy say in the next hire. Might see Patridge not come on board until the 10th coach position is approved. Next hire gets to be Rhoads.

If I have read it correctly, when we added Anderson it was Dan Enos who was working behind the scenes in that direction. There is a good relationship between Enos and Anderson, for sure.
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ricepig

January 17, 2017, 07:28:42 pm #39
Quote from: Oklahawg on January 17, 2017, 07:21:11 pm
I bet Rhoads has a heavy say in the next hire. Might see Patridge not come on board until the 10th coach position is approved. Next hire gets to be Rhoads.

If I have read it correctly, when we added Anderson it was Dan Enos who was working behind the scenes in that direction. There is a good relationship between Enos and Anderson, for sure.

Segrest is gone, it may be after NSD, but I hear he's gone.

Hawg Life

January 17, 2017, 07:32:09 pm #40
Quote from: ricepig on January 17, 2017, 07:28:42 pm
Segrest is gone, it may be after NSD, but I hear he's gone.

Hargreaves too..

ricepig

January 17, 2017, 07:35:57 pm #41
Quote from: Hawg Life on January 17, 2017, 07:32:09 pm
Hargreaves too..

Yeah, I would suspect so.

JackJohnson

January 17, 2017, 07:36:51 pm #42
Quote from: Hawg Life on January 17, 2017, 07:32:09 pm
Hargreaves too..

We should have hired Raymond Woodie when he interviewed the first time and we hired Hargreaves.  Let's hope he is still interested as he is currently unemployed after not being retained by Strong

Hawg Life

January 17, 2017, 07:39:20 pm #43
Quote from: JackJohnson on January 17, 2017, 07:36:51 pm
We should have hired Raymond Woodie when he interviewed the first time and we hired Hargreaves.  Let's hope he is still interested as he is currently unemployed after not being retained by Strong

His name has been thrown around.. he went to high school in Florida and has big time Florida ties in recruiting.

JackJohnson

January 17, 2017, 07:40:51 pm #44
Quote from: ricepig on January 17, 2017, 07:28:42 pm
Segrest is gone, it may be after NSD, but I hear he's gone.

Crossing my fingers but why not go ahead and get the new coach in who could possibly bring recruits with him this year or get an early start for next year on recruiting

ricepig

January 17, 2017, 07:43:47 pm #45
Quote from: JackJohnson on January 17, 2017, 07:40:51 pm
Crossing my fingers but why not go ahead and get the new coach in who could possibly bring recruits with him this year or get an early start for next year on recruiting

I don't know, they don't ask me for my opinion, and unlike HV, they don't read it either, lol.

lilRockNDubb

January 17, 2017, 07:50:27 pm #46
Quote from: The_Bionic_Pig on January 17, 2017, 04:44:44 pm
Those first (2) definitely have a connection to Coach BB

And the 1st one has a connection to both CBB and CPR

Hoggish1

January 17, 2017, 08:43:57 pm #47
Quote from: lilRockNDubb on January 17, 2017, 02:45:13 pm
The 10th coach wouldn't be available until at least summer. The chancellors and presidents have to vote and they don't vote on it until April.

Well the chancellors and presidents of the You of A should get off their assis and work for a change...  Perhaps they could do just a little extra for a change LMAO

(notOM)Rebel123

January 17, 2017, 08:51:29 pm #48
Considering how long it took to promote from within for the D.C. Spot, I wouldn't get in any hurry for this.
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Dominicanhog

January 17, 2017, 08:57:02 pm #49
Quote from: ricepig on January 17, 2017, 07:35:57 pm
Yeah, I would suspect so.

Now your coming off the info..  ;)... you mentioned EC the other day.. any chance?  i think he'd be a good fit with our LB's.. just don't know about DC to LB coach..


sorry, just saw your post above.. that would be awesome ...

never mind, I just read the entire thread... back to my original question.. are you hearing his name?
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