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Very Interesting Comment by Rick Schaeffer
« on: September 13, 2017, 04:59:24 pm »

"This is the year, and I think he knows this, that Bret Bielema either proves that he is or isn't the man for this job."
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Re: Very Interesting Comment by Rick Schaeffer
« Reply #1 on: September 13, 2017, 05:00:28 pm »

Was he drinking on the air?
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Re: Very Interesting Comment by Rick Schaeffer
« Reply #2 on: September 13, 2017, 05:01:26 pm »

"This is the year, and I think he knows this, that Bret Bielema either proves that he is or isn't the man for this job."

Who said that, and what did they do with the real Rick Schaeffer?
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Re: Very Interesting Comment by Rick Schaeffer
« Reply #3 on: September 13, 2017, 05:01:53 pm »

"This is the year, and I think he knows this, that Bret Bielema either proves that he is or isn't the man for this job."

I've kind of always thought the same thing. I know people always bring up the contract. But guys... contracts are meant meant to be broken.
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Re: Very Interesting Comment by Rick Schaeffer
« Reply #4 on: September 13, 2017, 05:02:02 pm »

that speaks volumes to me
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Re: Very Interesting Comment by Rick Schaeffer
« Reply #5 on: September 13, 2017, 05:07:01 pm »

Who said that, and what did they do with the real Rick Schaeffer?

srsly....we should send the cops to do a health and wellness check...
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Re: Very Interesting Comment by Rick Schaeffer
« Reply #6 on: September 13, 2017, 05:10:11 pm »

Sounds like Rick has received some updated talking points from Long. 
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Re: Very Interesting Comment by Rick Schaeffer
« Reply #7 on: September 13, 2017, 05:12:16 pm »

This is tea leaves stuff just like Wallace Hall's columns.  If the least little negativity is slipping through from the pumpers the winds of change or at least urgency are blowing.
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Re: Very Interesting Comment by Rick Schaeffer
« Reply #8 on: September 13, 2017, 05:12:52 pm »

"This is the year, and I think he knows this, that Bret Bielema either proves that he is or isn't the man for this job."

Link ???


hard to believe Rainbow Rick said that

#MindBlowing


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Re: Very Interesting Comment by Rick Schaeffer
« Reply #9 on: September 13, 2017, 05:14:02 pm »

Here's to hoping he can regain dignity lost and promptly GTFO instead of orchestrating another embarrassing performance.  I'm proud of how patient Razorback fans have generally been with him but the ship has sailed.
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Re: Very Interesting Comment by Rick Schaeffer
« Reply #10 on: September 13, 2017, 05:18:43 pm »

Here's to hoping he can regain dignity lost and promptly GTFO instead of orchestrating another embarrassing performance.  I'm proud of how patient Razorback fans have generally been with him but the ship has sailed.

Good Lord yes.  We are freaking Job considering what fans in some bastions of the SEC would be doing after a 0-14 start to SEC play, peaking at 8 wins disastrous finishes last year and uninspired play this year.
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Re: Very Interesting Comment by Rick Schaeffer
« Reply #11 on: September 13, 2017, 05:22:47 pm »

Just for verification that it was indeed Rick, before making the comment in the OP he said, "He's 26-27 in the SEC, so it's not like he's lost them all."
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Re: Very Interesting Comment by Rick Schaeffer
« Reply #12 on: September 13, 2017, 05:25:58 pm »

Well, he doesn't say he's leaving, just that he will realize he can or can't cut it in the SEC.  I'm inclined to agree.

I surely don't have Rick's contacts but five years is a long time to get your arse handed to you and often in embarrassing fashion.  BB is as proud and confident as any coach I've ever heard speak, often without justified reasoning.

Would not be surprised to hear in December, that he and JL have negotiated a much reduced buyout so BB can see to his growing family and his new job at ESPN.  Just an opinion.
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Re: Very Interesting Comment by Rick Schaeffer
« Reply #13 on: September 13, 2017, 05:29:30 pm »

..........."BB is as proud and confident as any coach I've ever heard speak, often without justified reasoning."
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Re: Very Interesting Comment by Rick Schaeffer
« Reply #14 on: September 13, 2017, 05:32:19 pm »

Bielema said a 58 FG% by Hedlund wasn't good enough. I think a mere 45% win record in the SEC isn't good enough. I think no second half scores in the last 3 games against FBS opponents isn't good enough.
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Re: Very Interesting Comment by Rick Schaeffer
« Reply #15 on: September 13, 2017, 05:37:19 pm »

Wilson may know more about this but I don't think Rick is the insider he once was.
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Re: Very Interesting Comment by Rick Schaeffer
« Reply #16 on: September 13, 2017, 05:38:31 pm »

Bielema said a 58 FG% by Hedlund wasn't good enough. I think a mere 45% win record in the SEC isn't good enough. I think no second half scores in the last 3 games against FBS opponents isn't good enough.

I would agree his record isn't good enough. But there's no comparison to a field goal kicker's percentage.
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Re: Very Interesting Comment by Rick Schaeffer
« Reply #17 on: September 13, 2017, 05:38:47 pm »


Did he get one of is balls back from the box on JFB desk.
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Re: Very Interesting Comment by Rick Schaeffer
« Reply #18 on: September 13, 2017, 05:56:35 pm »

I really want Bielema to win and stay.....even if I have quit on him.

His last 12 games (I guess that is a normal season) has gone 5-7

Looking at that is what makes me mad when people say GOSH IT IS JUST ONE GAME
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Re: Very Interesting Comment by Rick Schaeffer
« Reply #19 on: September 13, 2017, 06:03:34 pm »

"This is the year, and I think he knows this, that Bret Bielema either proves that he is or isn't the man for this job."

I still think he gets his two years to get 16 wins, probably not if it requires us to 11, 12, or 13 next year.
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Re: Very Interesting Comment by Rick Schaeffer
« Reply #20 on: September 13, 2017, 06:04:42 pm »

Wilson may know more about this but I don't think Rick is the insider he once was.

This, but he hears things for sure.
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Re: Very Interesting Comment by Rick Schaeffer
« Reply #21 on: September 13, 2017, 06:12:20 pm »

Rick even said he doesn't have the connection with Long that he had with Broyles. Said he knew what JFB was thinking, but doesn't have a feel for what Long might do.

This, but he hears things for sure.
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Re: Very Interesting Comment by Rick Schaeffer
« Reply #22 on: September 13, 2017, 06:13:34 pm »

Talk has been around since before the season that Bielema was given two years to win 16 regular season games (or similar).  Now, I don't think anyone at the top thought that was a huge task.  Now however, after lackluster performances against an FCS school and being humiliated by TCU running it right down our throats and stuffing our Oline, a chip shot record looks like long odds. 
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Re: Very Interesting Comment by Rick Schaeffer
« Reply #23 on: September 13, 2017, 06:54:22 pm »

I really want Bielema to win and stay.....even if I have quit on him.

His last 12 games (I guess that is a normal season) has gone 5-7

Looking at that is what makes me mad when people say GOSH IT IS JUST ONE GAME

It's not 1 game. Its  toledo, it's Texas tech, it's mizzou and VT.

It's squandering a 2015 season that should habe won 10-11 games. Its our team looking completely unprepared. It wasn't just 1 game. It is 5 years of frustration and TCU was just the straw that broke the camel's back. It wasn't that we lost. It was how we lost. We looked inept, and lost. We didn't look like a team that had been under the same coach for 5 years, and 3 under the same coordinator.

Not to mention under achieving every year he has been here. We have been better than we have shown his entire career here.
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Re: Very Interesting Comment by Rick Schaeffer
« Reply #24 on: September 13, 2017, 08:43:20 pm »

A year too late to be finding out. 

In most real high-level Div. 1 football programs this determination is made in year 4.  In those real football programs a Head Coach gets 4 years to prove he is or isn't the man for the job.

To those football programs, 5 and 6 year plans are too problematic.  It essentially wastes time.  In high-level Div. 1 football, wasting time equates to getting left behind.

The best way to solve a problem is to quickly identify the problem, to quickly remove the problem, and to quickly implement a solution.  Not the way the UofA Athletic Administration operates, therefore, the 5 and 6 year plan that will waste time and lead to being left behind.   
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Re: Very Interesting Comment by Rick Schaeffer
« Reply #25 on: September 13, 2017, 08:51:49 pm »

srsly....we should send the cops to do a health and wellness check...

on CBB?
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Re: Very Interesting Comment by Rick Schaeffer
« Reply #26 on: September 13, 2017, 08:53:40 pm »

Twistit, you been peddling God's cabbage to Rick?
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Re: Very Interesting Comment by Rick Schaeffer
« Reply #27 on: September 13, 2017, 08:59:03 pm »

It's not 1 game. Its  toledo, it's Texas tech, it's mizzou and VT.

It's squandering a 2015 season that should habe won 10-11 games. Its our team looking completely unprepared. It wasn't just 1 game. It is 5 years of frustration and TCU was just the straw that broke the camel's back. It wasn't that we lost. It was how we lost. We looked inept, and lost. We didn't look like a team that had been under the same coach for 5 years, and 3 under the same coordinator.

Not to mention under achieving every year he has been here. We have been better than we have shown his entire career here.

Mizzou 16 was the straw that broke the camel's back,  VT was an additional bale of straw for good measure and TCU was a bullet to the camel's head.
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Re: Very Interesting Comment by Rick Schaeffer
« Reply #28 on: September 13, 2017, 08:59:48 pm »

Just for verification that it was indeed Rick, before making the comment in the OP he said, "He's 26-27 in the SEC, so it's not like he's lost them all."
Of course this is not correct. Hell, 26 - 27 would be almost acceptable for games against SEC teams.
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Re: Very Interesting Comment by Rick Schaeffer
« Reply #29 on: September 13, 2017, 09:02:16 pm »

I've kind of always thought the same thing. I know people always bring up the contract. But guys... contracts are meant meant to be broken.
even if we dont fire him after this year, if he doesn't manage to do something then its just a matter of time.  Long will give him one more year, at that point the buy out will be reasonable, and it gives Long a year to find a replacement.
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Re: Very Interesting Comment by Rick Schaeffer
« Reply #30 on: September 13, 2017, 09:04:23 pm »

A year too late to be finding out. 

In most real high-level Div. 1 football programs this determination is made in year 4.  In those real football programs a Head Coach gets 4 years to prove he is or isn't the man for the job.

To those football programs, 5 and 6 year plans are too problematic.  It essentially wastes time.  In high-level Div. 1 football, wasting time equates to getting left behind.

The best way to solve a problem is to quickly identify the problem, to quickly remove the problem, and to quickly implement a solution.  Not the way the UofA Athletic Administration operates, therefore, the 5 and 6 year plan that will waste time and lead to being left behind.   
I'd be interested in seeing your data that suggests that most programs only give a coach 4 years.

I did find this article.

https://www.saturdaydownsouth.com/sec-football/average-sec-head-coaching-tenure/

it seems most of the  winningest programs average more than 4 years while the less winning programs average less than 4 years
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Re: Very Interesting Comment by Rick Schaeffer
« Reply #31 on: September 13, 2017, 09:05:39 pm »

even if we dont fire him after this year, if he doesn't manage to do something then its just a matter of time.  Long will give him one more year, at that point the buy out will be reasonable, and it gives Long a year to find a replacement.

God I hope it doesn't take him another year to find a replacement.
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Re: Very Interesting Comment by Rick Schaeffer
« Reply #32 on: September 13, 2017, 09:07:19 pm »

If rick is waffling, and I need to take your word for it as DTS is herpes to my cochlea, then the end is nigh.
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Re: Very Interesting Comment by Rick Schaeffer
« Reply #33 on: September 13, 2017, 09:08:21 pm »

Bielema said a 58 FG% by Hedlund wasn't good enough. I think a mere 45% win record in the SEC isn't good enough. I think no second half scores in the last 3 games against FBS opponents isn't good enough.

One of the more shocking stats.  I heard it first today.  ...No scores in the 2nd half of our last three FBS games.   Unbelievable.
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Re: Very Interesting Comment by Rick Schaeffer
« Reply #34 on: September 13, 2017, 09:10:25 pm »

One of the more shocking stats.  I heard it first today.  ...No scores in the 2nd half of our last three FBS games.   Unbelievable.

And by score you mean outscored 70-0
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Re: Very Interesting Comment by Rick Schaeffer
« Reply #35 on: September 13, 2017, 09:10:28 pm »

Just for verification that it was indeed Rick, before making the comment in the OP he said, "He's 26-27 in the SEC, so it's not like he's lost them all."

He's 10-22 in the SEC. Poor Sunshine always trying to polish a turd
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« Reply #36 on: September 13, 2017, 09:11:04 pm »

God I hope it doesn't take him another year to find a replacement.
I'm not sure the precise time as relates to the contract, but my prediction is that when the buy out drops under 5 million, his days are over, unless he magically turns the team around and we win 8+ games.
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« Reply #37 on: September 13, 2017, 09:11:51 pm »

I'd be interested in seeing your data that suggests that most programs only give a coach 4 years.

I did find this article.

https://www.saturdaydownsouth.com/sec-football/average-sec-head-coaching-tenure/

it seems most of the  winningest programs average more than 4 years while the less winning programs average less than 4 years
Because when the coach wins, he gets to stick around for longer.
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Re: Very Interesting Comment by Rick Schaeffer
« Reply #38 on: September 13, 2017, 09:12:23 pm »

I'm not sure the precise time as relates to the contract, but my prediction is that when the buy out drops under 5 million, his days are over, unless he magically turns the team around and we win 8+ games.

I don't think it drops under $5 million for the life of the contract.
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Re: Very Interesting Comment by Rick Schaeffer
« Reply #39 on: September 13, 2017, 09:12:48 pm »

He's 10-22 in the SEC. Poor Sunshine always trying to polish a turd
yeah, it would be a miraculous couple seasons to get to 26-27  at this point.
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« Reply #40 on: September 13, 2017, 09:14:34 pm »

I don't think it drops under $5 million for the life of the contract.
I think it drops to 4.5 in the last couple years. iirc it was something like 14.5 - 11.5 - 8.5 - 4.5

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Re: Very Interesting Comment by Rick Schaeffer
« Reply #41 on: September 13, 2017, 09:14:54 pm »

I don't think it drops under $5 million for the life of the contract.

Jan 1, 2020, lol, it drops to $4m.
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Re: Very Interesting Comment by Rick Schaeffer
« Reply #42 on: September 13, 2017, 09:17:40 pm »

Jan 1, 2020, lol, it drops to $4m.

The last year.


Lol.

Quite possibly the stupidest contract in the history of ever. At least Weiss got ND to a BCS bowl.

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Re: Very Interesting Comment by Rick Schaeffer
« Reply #43 on: September 13, 2017, 09:18:19 pm »

Jan 1, 2020, lol, it drops to $4m.
Unless Long gives him an extention and raise.
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Re: Very Interesting Comment by Rick Schaeffer
« Reply #44 on: September 13, 2017, 09:24:13 pm »

This is tea leaves stuff just like Wallace Hall's columns.  If the least little negativity is slipping through from the pumpers the winds of change or at least urgency are blowing.

What's crazy is that Wally is in full defense mode in today's column. It's all about how recruiting isn't a problem.
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Re: Very Interesting Comment by Rick Schaeffer
« Reply #45 on: September 13, 2017, 09:26:14 pm »

If rick is waffling, and I need to take your word for it as DTS is herpes to my cochlea, then the end is nigh.

This made me laugh.
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Re: Very Interesting Comment by Rick Schaeffer
« Reply #46 on: September 13, 2017, 09:30:48 pm »

The last year.


Lol.

Quite possibly the stupidest contract in the history of ever. At least Weiss got ND to a BCS bowl.


ouch,

"Arkansas would have to pay Bielema $15.4 million if he were fired before 2018, $11.7 million before 2019, $7.9 million before 2020 and $4 million in the final year of his contract"

I must have still been thinking of the old contract which was

6.4 million 12/31/17 - second to last year
3.2 million 12/31/18 - last year

not sure how he managed such a large increase in the buy out to go with his extension.
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Re: Very Interesting Comment by Rick Schaeffer
« Reply #47 on: September 13, 2017, 09:38:25 pm »

If BB is fired/resigns guarantee in 4 years posters here will want the next coach fired. No doubt in my mind. Wash, rinse, repeat.
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Re: Very Interesting Comment by Rick Schaeffer
« Reply #48 on: September 13, 2017, 09:46:58 pm »

If BB is fired/resigns guarantee in 4 years posters here will want the next coach fired. No doubt in my mind. Wash, rinse, repeat.

If that coach were 26-27 and played like we did last Saturday, wouldn't you expect it?
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Re: Very Interesting Comment by Rick Schaeffer
« Reply #49 on: September 13, 2017, 09:49:43 pm »

If BB is fired/resigns guarantee in 4 years posters here will want the next coach fired. No doubt in my mind. Wash, rinse, repeat.

I am not sure how you have come to this conclusion. He is on pace to be our worst coach since joining the sec. Danny Ford and bert are neck and neck, but Ford at least recruited Well. We are not keeping up with the rest of the sec in that phase. So unless Bert somehow wins like 10 games this year. He will be remembered as the least winning coach at arkansas in a century essentially.

We have not gone this long without winning 9 games in almost 30 years. I do not accept that we are this bad. I know that we aren't. This guy is sinking our national perception everyday.
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