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Re: Long and Bielema saved Arkansas football
« Reply #1 on: September 13, 2017, 01:20:55 pm »

https://www.seccountry.com/arkansas/arkansas-bolin-bielema-long-savior
Talk about planting a story...timing on this is as transparent as a clear glass window. They really do take the fans for idiots.
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Re: Long and Bielema saved Arkansas football
« Reply #2 on: September 13, 2017, 01:22:14 pm »

Everyone hates Bolin already. This will not help.
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Re: Long and Bielema saved Arkansas football
« Reply #3 on: September 13, 2017, 01:22:35 pm »

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Re: Long and Bielema saved Arkansas football
« Reply #4 on: September 13, 2017, 01:29:07 pm »

Can't make myself read anything by Bolin.
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Re: Long and Bielema saved Arkansas football
« Reply #5 on: September 13, 2017, 01:29:38 pm »

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Re: Long and Bielema saved Arkansas football
« Reply #6 on: September 13, 2017, 01:31:12 pm »

I didn't know Bolin was disliked. I thought he was a straight shooter (excluding this article of course)
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Re: Long and Bielema saved Arkansas football
« Reply #8 on: September 13, 2017, 01:34:12 pm »

Saving the program implies that we are doing well. Well...we are not.
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Re: Long and Bielema saved Arkansas football
« Reply #9 on: September 13, 2017, 01:39:44 pm »

wow, just wow.  I think of so many other worse scandals and cheating that I have a hard time agreeing with the hogs were in the ashes.

If BP had finished up a 3-9, 0-8 season with his wreck then yes that's being close to ashes but he had just finished a #3 in season ranking with #5 finish.

Just so much fail in that article.
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Re: Long and Bielema saved Arkansas football
« Reply #11 on: September 13, 2017, 01:43:14 pm »

11 win season is far from ashes. The last year of BP.
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Re: Long and Bielema saved Arkansas football
« Reply #12 on: September 13, 2017, 01:43:24 pm »

Talk about planting a story...timing on this is as transparent as a clear glass window. They really do take the fans for idiots.

Never mind that it's true. 

Look, Bielema may not be the kind of tactical genius that Arkansas needs to win.  In fact, there may not be any one area that you can point to where he is truly excellent.  His philosophy may not work here, or in the modern game for that matter.  Perhaps that could have been foreseen.  It was such a departure from the Petrino formula and from Arkansas' historical template for success, I had my doubts but hoped otherwise.  So far the doubts are winning. 

But he was a surprising 'splash' hire with a strong track record that immediately rescued us from a 2 year national embarrassment and got us immediate respect.  We have even flirted with being a national darling a few times in the last five years, but have failed to sustain success.  He has cleaned up the program and put some talent in the cupboard.   People have taken to comparing him to Danny Ford, but there are two sides to that.  Danny didn't have much success here either, outside the surprising 1995 season, but he arrested the downward fall, left the program better than he found it and laid the foundation of his successor's early success.  Surely if we're honest with ourselves, we can at least say the same for Bielema, whether he leaves next year or a few years from now.

I'm coming to the sad conclusion that this just isn't going to work, but that doesn't mean we have to treat this like the Houston Nutt saga.

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Re: Long and Bielema saved Arkansas football
« Reply #13 on: September 13, 2017, 01:48:55 pm »

Nutt was a winner and a fighter , He was one of us.  Bret was just born on a Hog Farm.  His recruiting failures are showing this year.
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Re: Long and Bielema saved Arkansas football
« Reply #14 on: September 13, 2017, 01:51:53 pm »



This is gonna go over really well I am positive....
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Re: Long and Bielema saved Arkansas football
« Reply #16 on: September 13, 2017, 03:42:21 pm »

11 win season is far from ashes. The last year of BP.

Not the kind of ashes Bolin was talking about.

OneLard makes good points, and do does Bolin. "Saviors" may be a little strong, but we are a lot better off than we were the day Petrino wrecked his bike.
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Re: Long and Bielema saved Arkansas football
« Reply #17 on: September 13, 2017, 03:44:45 pm »

Not the kind of ashes Bolin was talking about.

OneLard makes good points, and do does Bolin. "Saviors" may be a little strong, but we are a lot better off than we were the day Petrino wrecked his bike.

I certainly agree with that last comment.  Things are better than they were but those were dark days.
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Re: Long and Bielema saved Arkansas football
« Reply #18 on: September 13, 2017, 03:52:16 pm »

Isn't Bolin a kind of a knot?
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Re: Long and Bielema saved Arkansas football
« Reply #19 on: September 13, 2017, 03:55:41 pm »

Not the kind of ashes Bolin was talking about.

OneLard makes good points, and do does Bolin. "Saviors" may be a little strong, but we are a lot better off than we were the day Petrino wrecked his bike.

I would argue that things got real bad the day he was fired, but I get what you're saying.
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Re: Long and Bielema saved Arkansas football
« Reply #20 on: September 13, 2017, 04:01:23 pm »

he was a surprising 'splash' hire with a strong track record that immediately rescued us from a 2 year national embarrassment and got us immediate respect. 

The rest of the country wasn't recoiling in horror from the Petrino story.  It wasn't Sandusky and Penn State, with children being raped in the showers at the football facility.  Actually almost no one really cared about it.  It was an embarrassing story, along the lines of "ha ha, what a dolt", but it wouldn't have lasted. 

By the way, when I remarked in another thread about how much weight Bielema has gained since coming to Arkansas someone said the photo I was referring to was from his early Wisconsin days.  This one...isn't.  Not that it matters much, but the difference is shocking.
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Re: Long and Bielema saved Arkansas football
« Reply #21 on: September 13, 2017, 04:32:10 pm »

I'm coming to the sad conclusion that this just isn't going to work, but that doesn't mean we have to treat this like the Houston Nutt saga.

The Nutt saga only became a saga after he flirted with Nebraska in 2003 and got the infamous 2 year free pass.  At that point most Arkansas fans realized his agent had maneuvered JFB into a corner from which there was no quick escape as Frank had done with all his other coaches.  There would be no internal effort to oust Nutt while Houston continued to add insult to injury spinning the soap opera to ever greater heights driving the fan base to ever more vocal opposition till Broyles retirement was the only way to end it all.

Long doesn't want to go down that road and test whether he is more popular than JFB.
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Re: Long and Bielema saved Arkansas football
« Reply #22 on: September 13, 2017, 05:09:08 pm »

In what universe is that writer from????

Straight out of Jeff Long's office.  If you can't understand that.....
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Re: Long and Bielema saved Arkansas football
« Reply #23 on: September 13, 2017, 05:12:00 pm »

Everyone hates Bolin already. This will not help.

I seriously think he trolls the fanbase on purpose.

He will write an all out negative article that will have Hogville wanting to give him an award for best sports writing then turn around and write something like this that draws hate.
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Re: Long and Bielema saved Arkansas football
« Reply #24 on: September 13, 2017, 05:13:11 pm »

Saved the program? By disheartening the fan base through destroying the hope to aspire to success?
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Re: Long and Bielema saved Arkansas football
« Reply #26 on: September 13, 2017, 05:45:12 pm »

I didn't know Bolin was disliked. I thought he was a straight shooter (excluding this article of course)

Im wondering the same thing. I dont love this article but I see where he is coming from. In a week he had one positive and one negative article and both of them were pretty true but people hate him. Whatd I miss? No one else is even writing anything with an opinon.
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Re: Long and Bielema saved Arkansas football
« Reply #27 on: September 13, 2017, 05:50:37 pm »

I didn't know Bolin was disliked. I thought he was a straight shooter (excluding this article of course)

People think Bolin is a straight shooter because he is negative most of the time.  However, when he feels like people are agreeing with him too much he will turn around and write something like this to cause controversy.  He is a part of the new breed of writers who want clicks over substance.  They rather give a hot take then produce a well written article.
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Re: Long and Bielema saved Arkansas football
« Reply #28 on: September 13, 2017, 05:51:23 pm »

This guy gets paid for this "journalism." Keep that in mind.
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Re: Long and Bielema saved Arkansas football
« Reply #29 on: September 13, 2017, 05:52:52 pm »

I dont actually see him give a take much. First I ever heard of him was this week and looks like hes been there a year. Can someone point me in directin?
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Re: Long and Bielema saved Arkansas football
« Reply #30 on: September 13, 2017, 06:24:21 pm »

This guy gets paid for this "journalism." Keep that in mind.

He's no different than the other presstitutes.  There was a certain "reporter" on here that had his credentials pulled by Jeffi for not lining up with the company line. It wasn't until he made a public apology and put up a life size cutout of Jeffi in direct view of the camera on his radio simulcast that he got it all back.  That's what they're scared of.
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Re: Long and Bielema saved Arkansas football
« Reply #31 on: September 13, 2017, 06:47:46 pm »

Hes no different than other presstitutes but the guy above said he almost always writes negative? We as fans dont know which way is up right now. I know I dont. We want to be angry at someone whether its Long or Bielema or Bolin or Bo. Lets just hope we get it turned around this season and then figure it all out
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Re: Long and Bielema saved Arkansas football
« Reply #32 on: September 13, 2017, 09:04:01 pm »

I would rather be hated for winning with a coach that some don't like than no one hating us, because no one knows we exist and are irrelevant on the national stage. That does not equal saving to me.
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Re: Long and Bielema saved Arkansas football
« Reply #33 on: September 13, 2017, 09:09:21 pm »

In what universe is that writer from????
They say men are from Mars, and women from Venus, so I'll say Venus.
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Re: Long and Bielema saved Arkansas football
« Reply #34 on: September 13, 2017, 09:27:42 pm »

Not the kind of ashes Bolin was talking about.

OneLard makes good points, and do does Bolin. "Saviors" may be a little strong, but we are a lot better off than we were the day Petrino wrecked his bike.

We was 11-2 and coming off a Sugar Bowl.....how are we better now?  We can't beat TCU, Texas Tech, or Toledo
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Re: Long and Bielema saved Arkansas football
« Reply #35 on: September 13, 2017, 09:29:01 pm »

Pardon me while I puke!!
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Re: Long and Bielema saved Arkansas football
« Reply #36 on: September 13, 2017, 09:31:18 pm »

Eric Bolin or Robert Shields?
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Re: Long and Bielema saved Arkansas football
« Reply #37 on: September 13, 2017, 09:40:52 pm »

Nutt was a winner and a fighter , He was one of us.  Bret was just born on a Hog Farm.  His recruiting failures are showing this year.

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Re: Long and Bielema saved Arkansas football
« Reply #38 on: September 13, 2017, 09:42:24 pm »

I would rather be hated for winning with a coach that some don't like than no one hating us, because no one knows we exist and are irrelevant on the national stage. That does not equal saving to me.
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