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Author Topic: What's Happened to Arkansas' Tight Ends?  (Read 1869 times)

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Re: What's Happened to Arkansas' Tight Ends?
« Reply #1 on: September 11, 2017, 10:24:38 pm »

They were in the game but as soon as we got stuffed once, we stopped trying to stretch their secondary out with them.

Gave up basically.
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Re: What's Happened to Arkansas' Tight Ends?
« Reply #2 on: September 11, 2017, 10:37:06 pm »

I'm sure we'll see more of them this season.  Hard to tell who will be the guy at this point, looks to be neck and neck with 3 of them.
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Re: What's Happened to Arkansas' Tight Ends?
« Reply #3 on: September 11, 2017, 10:39:35 pm »

I'm sure we'll see more of them this season.  Hard to tell who will be the guy at this point, looks to be neck and neck with 3 of them.

Best hands probably goes to O'Grady.

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Re: What's Happened to Arkansas' Tight Ends?
« Reply #4 on: September 11, 2017, 11:23:17 pm »

Best hands probably goes to O'Grady.

No doubt.  Speakin of Tight End U, it's Henry vs. Derby in Denver tonight.  So far, Derby has a better showing.
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Re: What's Happened to Arkansas' Tight Ends?
« Reply #5 on: September 12, 2017, 12:02:42 am »

No doubt.  Speakin of Tight End U, it's Henry vs. Derby in Denver tonight.  So far, Derby has a better showing.

I've been on it. Pretty good game. I'm happy Derby is getting some serious action.
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Re: What's Happened to Arkansas' Tight Ends?
« Reply #6 on: September 12, 2017, 12:27:34 am »

And if our WR's are too inexperienced/not good enough to get open, then we need to be throwing to the TE's and the RB's a whole lot more!
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Re: What's Happened to Arkansas' Tight Ends?
« Reply #7 on: September 12, 2017, 04:29:40 am »

I wondered that this past Saturday, short passes the TEs over the 8 in the box? I'm far from an expert, but I don't see why it wouldn't work.
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Re: What's Happened to Arkansas' Tight Ends?
« Reply #8 on: September 12, 2017, 07:21:28 am »

I wondered that this past Saturday, short passes the TEs over the 8 in the box? I'm far from an expert, but I don't see why it wouldn't work.
I think they were trying to get Patton going and he caught one for a good chunk. Then jumped a couple plays later killing the drive.
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Re: What's Happened to Arkansas' Tight Ends?
« Reply #9 on: September 12, 2017, 07:23:44 am »

Cantrell is as good as any in the league imo. But from there it is one skills or the other. Ogrady can catch anything thrown his way, Patton can run, but neither are great blockers in the run game. Will Gragg is so far down the depth chart Antwine is getting snaps ahead of him.
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Re: What's Happened to Arkansas' Tight Ends?
« Reply #10 on: September 12, 2017, 08:04:20 am »

I blame ENOS!
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Re: What's Happened to Arkansas' Tight Ends?
« Reply #11 on: September 12, 2017, 08:10:13 am »

how about a seam route, why does everything to the te have to be a roll out
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Re: What's Happened to Arkansas' Tight Ends?
« Reply #12 on: September 12, 2017, 09:21:17 am »

A bigger question is, what happened to Chase Hayden?
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Re: What's Happened to Arkansas' Tight Ends?
« Reply #13 on: September 12, 2017, 10:40:18 am »

A bigger question is, what happened to Chase Hayden?

They were blitzing every play and he doesn't know how to pick up blocks very well yet.
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Re: What's Happened to Arkansas' Tight Ends?
« Reply #14 on: September 12, 2017, 10:56:29 am »

http://www.nwahomepage.com/news/whats-happened-to-arkansas-tight-ends/809449546

No more "Tight Ends U?"
We have plenty of tight ends. Jeremy Patton and Cheyenne O'Grady are gonna be Sunday players. Austin Cantrell is the most experienced in the group but he got a huge penalty that cost us a first down. All offensive coaches have said out of all the newcomers, Patton picked up the playbook the fastest. You will see more and more of O'Grady and Patton, and less of Cantrell as the season progresses.
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Re: What's Happened to Arkansas' Tight Ends?
« Reply #15 on: September 12, 2017, 04:45:30 pm »

You would think, with the inexperience at wide receiver and the lack of confidence Allen is showing, that throwing to the tight ends would be a no-brainer-shorter, quicker passes. If fact it seems to me that at this point 5-10 yard passes to the tight end, and using double tight end sets, would be the center piece of the passing offense until the long game gets worked out (if it ever does). Now I would expect teams to treat Arkansas like a run-only team and keep the linebackers and safeties close to the LOS and make Allen beat them with the pass. I don't think he can if he has to rely on his wide receivers. It will be interesting to see if they add more plays to the TEs over the next two weeks.
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Re: What's Happened to Arkansas' Tight Ends?
« Reply #16 on: September 12, 2017, 07:08:53 pm »

Our TE's have become O'Linemen, just like Sprinkle did last year!
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Re: What's Happened to Arkansas' Tight Ends?
« Reply #17 on: September 13, 2017, 02:03:59 pm »

You would think, with the inexperience at wide receiver and the lack of confidence Allen is showing, that throwing to the tight ends would be a no-brainer-shorter, quicker passes. If fact it seems to me that at this point 5-10 yard passes to the tight end, and using double tight end sets, would be the center piece of the passing offense until the long game gets worked out (if it ever does). Now I would expect teams to treat Arkansas like a run-only team and keep the linebackers and safeties close to the LOS and make Allen beat them with the pass. I don't think he can if he has to rely on his wide receivers. It will be interesting to see if they add more plays to the TEs over the next two weeks.

QB has to look for them and they have to be open to be passed to. They were in the routes, but if they are the only option, teams will lock them up.
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Re: What's Happened to Arkansas' Tight Ends?
« Reply #18 on: September 13, 2017, 04:27:59 pm »

None of our current TE are Sunday players. They could get very little separation on Saturday in their routes and we don't have a dynamic playmaker. This is where we miss someone like Hunter Henry who you knew and could count on to make a play on 3rd or 4th down. Without a lot of improvement I don't see our current TEs being dominate...like the past few years.
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Re: What's Happened to Arkansas' Tight Ends?
« Reply #19 on: September 13, 2017, 04:48:02 pm »

Patton is not a good blocker?  How do we know that?

How do we know our top two receiver TEs can not get open? Somebody break the film down? I did not see them thrown to enough to know that.

I think Bielema and the team watched the game film and know which coaches choked under pressure and which players sucked enough to take away a chance to win the game.

Bielema said "In two weeks we will be the nation's most improved team."

Once more, he is a wonderful orator, we will see if he can back up what he says. 0 for 3 of late.
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Re: What's Happened to Arkansas' Tight Ends?
« Reply #20 on: September 13, 2017, 04:50:02 pm »

look at what our last two tight-ends (Derby and Henry) before "5 finger discount" sprinkle are doing now... that's hard to replicate
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Re: What's Happened to Arkansas' Tight Ends?
« Reply #21 on: September 13, 2017, 04:53:10 pm »

They're on the bench. O'Grady is the best TE on the team. It doesnt take 2-3 years to see that. Go back and watch the bowl game.
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Re: What's Happened to Arkansas' Tight Ends?
« Reply #22 on: September 13, 2017, 06:05:01 pm »

They're on the bench. O'Grady is the best TE on the team. It doesnt take 2-3 years to see that. Go back and watch the bowl game.

Right here.  He should have minimum of 10-12 targets a game.
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Re: What's Happened to Arkansas' Tight Ends?
« Reply #23 on: September 13, 2017, 06:09:51 pm »

you throw to a blocker TE standing out of bounds when you have two big monster pass catchers not used....then fans have a right to question the staff's ability
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